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1. 05:15 AM - Re: my Piet pics (walt evans)
2. 11:13 AM - Re: my Piet pics (Catdesign)
3. 12:02 PM - Re: my Piet pics (walt evans)
4. 12:56 PM - Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error (Catdesign)
5. 01:11 PM - Tail Wheel was my Piet pics (Catdesign)
6. 01:20 PM - Re: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error (Carl Vought)
7. 03:13 PM - Re: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error (walt evans)
8. 03:14 PM - Re: Tail Wheel was my Piet pics (walt evans)
9. 03:31 PM - Re: Tail Wheel was my Piet pics (walt evans)
10. 03:50 PM - Re: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error (Alan Lyscars)
11. 04:33 PM - One more leak detection method to add to the list (Rick Holland)
12. 05:28 PM - Fw: NOT DELIVERED - To: - Subject: Re: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error (Carl Vought)
13. 06:04 PM - Re: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error (The Schuerrs)
14. 06:23 PM - Re: my Piet pics (The Schuerrs)
15. 08:38 PM - Re: Tail Wheel was my Piet pics (Catdesign)
16. 08:38 PM - Re: NOT DELIVERED - To: - Subject: Re: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error (Catdesign)
17. 08:48 PM - Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error (Matt Dralle)
18. 09:01 PM - Test Message, Please Ignore... (Matt Dralle)
19. 09:18 PM - Test Message, Please Ignore (#2)... (Matronics Information)
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Subject: | Re: my Piet pics |
Chris,
I added an L shaped plate under the coil spring to give a surface parallel to the
ground. With a hole for a pivot bolt. Then kind of fabricated a tailwheel
holder to take a cheap 4" (I think) wheel. Then had to make a bracket that holds
2 pullies for cables to go over. These were at the pivot point of the swingarm,
holding the wheel assy. The front of the cables were swaged to the rudder
cables under the seat, and the rear was attached, with springs, to the tailwheel
arms.
Turns out that cause the height of the wheel was like a lever, during tight turns
the swingarm tubes twisted. So had to fabricate like a truss assy on the arms.
Kind of hard to explain, I'll try to dig up pics.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: Catdesign
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my Piet pics
Walt, can you tell me how you added the tail wheel to the standard Piet design?
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: piet list
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: my Piet pics
Just ran into my Yahoo pic acct. Forgot I had it. Here's the link in case
any one wants to browse my project in a nutshell. Click to make them bigger.
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/joepiet/album?.dir=3D5f03
walt evans
NX140DL
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Subject: | Re: my Piet pics |
Walt,
I have heard about using heavy duty casters before. So you just used a off the
shelf caster? Any wisdom on selection one? Or did you just grab whatever they
had. How's it holding up? Do you land on grass or pavement? I'll be landing
on pavement. I have heard that if built to the plans the tubing might bend.
I think it was Steve Eldrige who also had this happen. I think he recommended
increasing the size of the down tubes. Pictures would be great.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my Piet pics
Chris,
I added an L shaped plate under the coil spring to give a surface parallel to
the ground. With a hole for a pivot bolt. Then kind of fabricated a tailwheel
holder to take a cheap 4" (I think) wheel. Then had to make a bracket that
holds 2 pullies for cables to go over. These were at the pivot point of the swingarm,
holding the wheel assy. The front of the cables were swaged to the rudder
cables under the seat, and the rear was attached, with springs, to the tailwheel
arms.
Turns out that cause the height of the wheel was like a lever, during tight turns
the swingarm tubes twisted. So had to fabricate like a truss assy on the
arms.
Kind of hard to explain, I'll try to dig up pics.
walt evans
NX140DL
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Subject: | Re: my Piet pics |
Chris,
Even tho the tailwheel supplied with my Fisher 404 kit was right off a shopping
cart, I didn't use it.
The wheel I used on the Piet was from AS&S. part #06-03500 (4" solid) Nice
wheel that's held up nicely on both paved and grass runways. It has ball bearings.
I used the same tubing as the plans for the swing arms, but like I had mentioned,
had to add more like a truss to stop torsional loads. Now it's very solid and
worry free.
While on the subject, could NOT get used to the rudder bar. Didn't want to change
it cause of the "crush the rudder horn " deal. So added higher rudder "pedals"
to the bar. You can see them in the Yahoo pics. After so many hours using
your feet like flippers for the rudder, I couldn't get into seasawing my legs
to acuate the bar. When things got busy landing, my feet are flipping but the
rudder isn't ruddering.
The pucker factor called for a change.
I'm also very happy with how these came out.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: Catdesign
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my Piet pics
Walt,
I have heard about using heavy duty casters before. So you just used a off the
shelf caster? Any wisdom on selection one? Or did you just grab whatever they
had. How's it holding up? Do you land on grass or pavement? I'll be landing
on pavement. I have heard that if built to the plans the tubing might bend.
I think it was Steve Eldrige who also had this happen. I think he recommended
increasing the size of the down tubes. Pictures would be great.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my Piet pics
Chris,
I added an L shaped plate under the coil spring to give a surface parallel
to the ground. With a hole for a pivot bolt. Then kind of fabricated a tailwheel
holder to take a cheap 4" (I think) wheel. Then had to make a bracket that
holds 2 pullies for cables to go over. These were at the pivot point of the
swingarm, holding the wheel assy. The front of the cables were swaged to the
rudder cables under the seat, and the rear was attached, with springs, to the
tailwheel arms.
Turns out that cause the height of the wheel was like a lever, during tight
turns the swingarm tubes twisted. So had to fabricate like a truss assy on the
arms.
Kind of hard to explain, I'll try to dig up pics.
walt evans
NX140DL
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Subject: | Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error |
Lately, when I post to the list I get a NOT DELIVERED email message saying the
message I just sent was undeliverable but I know it is making it to the list.
Anyone else have this happening?
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
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Subject: | Tail Wheel was my Piet pics |
Let me see if I have this strait, your saying you used the wheel bracket (basically
one off a shopping cart) but swapped out the wheel. From the pictures I
have it doesn't look like any caster I have seen. If so I just might have to take
a look at some of the abandoned shopping carts next to my office Monday.
I think I can also see you added two cross brace between the to down tubes and
some diagonals. I have like a bunch of Piet photos I've collected over the years
but few show any details about tail wheels. Isn't that the way it always
happens. I remember you problems with the rudder bar. I keep going back and
forth about using a rudder bar or pedals.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my Piet pics
Chris,
Even tho the tailwheel supplied with my Fisher 404 kit was right off a shopping
cart, I didn't use it.
The wheel I used on the Piet was from AS&S. part #06-03500 (4" solid) Nice
wheel that's held up nicely on both paved and grass runways. It has ball bearings.
I used the same tubing as the plans for the swing arms, but like I had mentioned,
had to add more like a truss to stop torsional loads. Now it's very solid
and worry free.
While on the subject, could NOT get used to the rudder bar. Didn't want to change
it cause of the "crush the rudder horn " deal. So added higher rudder "pedals"
to the bar. You can see them in the Yahoo pics. After so many hours using
your feet like flippers for the rudder, I couldn't get into seasawing my legs
to acuate the bar. When things got busy landing, my feet are flipping but
the rudder isn't ruddering.
The pucker factor called for a change.
I'm also very happy with how these came out.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: Catdesign
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my Piet pics
Walt,
I have heard about using heavy duty casters before. So you just used a off
the shelf caster? Any wisdom on selection one? Or did you just grab whatever
they had. How's it holding up? Do you land on grass or pavement? I'll be landing
on pavement. I have heard that if built to the plans the tubing might bend.
I think it was Steve Eldrige who also had this happen. I think he recommended
increasing the size of the down tubes. Pictures would be great.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my Piet pics
Chris,
I added an L shaped plate under the coil spring to give a surface parallel
to the ground. With a hole for a pivot bolt. Then kind of fabricated a tailwheel
holder to take a cheap 4" (I think) wheel. Then had to make a bracket
that holds 2 pullies for cables to go over. These were at the pivot point of the
swingarm, holding the wheel assy. The front of the cables were swaged to the
rudder cables under the seat, and the rear was attached, with springs, to the
tailwheel arms.
Turns out that cause the height of the wheel was like a lever, during tight
turns the swingarm tubes twisted. So had to fabricate like a truss assy on
the arms.
Kind of hard to explain, I'll try to dig up pics.
walt evans
NX140DL
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Subject: | Re: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error |
YEP...Happened to me a couple of days ago when I attached a picture of Lowell Frank's
Warner powered Piet to my posting. The posting made it, but I got the "no
delivery" notice..Carl Vought
----- Original Message -----
From: Catdesign
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 2:54 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error
Lately, when I post to the list I get a NOT DELIVERED email message saying the
message I just sent was undeliverable but I know it is making it to the list.
Anyone else have this happening?
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
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Subject: | Re: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error |
I get it too
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: Catdesign
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 3:54 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error
Lately, when I post to the list I get a NOT DELIVERED email message saying the
message I just sent was undeliverable but I know it is making it to the list.
Anyone else have this happening?
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
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Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel was my Piet pics |
Chris,
No, just related a past story about a Fisher 404 that supplied a shopping cart
wheel for their tail wheel,,,that I didn't use.
I just came back from the airport and I'll either send you the pics directly, or
post them on the Yahoo site. I'll let you know
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: Catdesign
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:10 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel was my Piet pics
Let me see if I have this strait, your saying you used the wheel bracket (basically
one off a shopping cart) but swapped out the wheel. >From the pictures
I have it doesn't look like any caster I have seen. If so I just might have to
take a look at some of the abandoned shopping carts next to my office Monday.
I think I can also see you added two cross brace between the to down tubes
and some diagonals. I have like a bunch of Piet photos I've collected over the
years but few show any details about tail wheels. Isn't that the way it always
happens. I remember you problems with the rudder bar. I keep going back and
forth about using a rudder bar or pedals.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my Piet pics
Chris,
Even tho the tailwheel supplied with my Fisher 404 kit was right off a shopping
cart, I didn't use it.
The wheel I used on the Piet was from AS&S. part #06-03500 (4" solid)
Nice wheel that's held up nicely on both paved and grass runways. It has ball
bearings.
I used the same tubing as the plans for the swing arms, but like I had mentioned,
had to add more like a truss to stop torsional loads. Now it's very solid
and worry free.
While on the subject, could NOT get used to the rudder bar. Didn't want to
change it cause of the "crush the rudder horn " deal. So added higher rudder
"pedals" to the bar. You can see them in the Yahoo pics. After so many hours
using your feet like flippers for the rudder, I couldn't get into seasawing my
legs to acuate the bar. When things got busy landing, my feet are flipping but
the rudder isn't ruddering.
The pucker factor called for a change.
I'm also very happy with how these came out.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: Catdesign
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my Piet pics
Walt,
I have heard about using heavy duty casters before. So you just used a off
the shelf caster? Any wisdom on selection one? Or did you just grab whatever
they had. How's it holding up? Do you land on grass or pavement? I'll be landing
on pavement. I have heard that if built to the plans the tubing might bend.
I think it was Steve Eldrige who also had this happen. I think he recommended
increasing the size of the down tubes. Pictures would be great.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my Piet pics
Chris,
I added an L shaped plate under the coil spring to give a surface parallel
to the ground. With a hole for a pivot bolt. Then kind of fabricated a tailwheel
holder to take a cheap 4" (I think) wheel. Then had to make a bracket
that holds 2 pullies for cables to go over. These were at the pivot point of
the swingarm, holding the wheel assy. The front of the cables were swaged to
the rudder cables under the seat, and the rear was attached, with springs, to
the tailwheel arms.
Turns out that cause the height of the wheel was like a lever, during tight
turns the swingarm tubes twisted. So had to fabricate like a truss assy
on the arms.
Kind of hard to explain, I'll try to dig up pics.
walt evans
NX140DL
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Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel was my Piet pics |
Chris,
Just uploaded to Yahoo. But sent them to you directly also. If you need them bigger,
let me know. Pardon the last years debris.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: Catdesign
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:10 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel was my Piet pics
Let me see if I have this strait, your saying you used the wheel bracket (basically
one off a shopping cart) but swapped out the wheel. >From the pictures
I have it doesn't look like any caster I have seen. If so I just might have to
take a look at some of the abandoned shopping carts next to my office Monday.
I think I can also see you added two cross brace between the to down tubes
and some diagonals. I have like a bunch of Piet photos I've collected over the
years but few show any details about tail wheels. Isn't that the way it always
happens. I remember you problems with the rudder bar. I keep going back and
forth about using a rudder bar or pedals.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my Piet pics
Chris,
Even tho the tailwheel supplied with my Fisher 404 kit was right off a shopping
cart, I didn't use it.
The wheel I used on the Piet was from AS&S. part #06-03500 (4" solid)
Nice wheel that's held up nicely on both paved and grass runways. It has ball
bearings.
I used the same tubing as the plans for the swing arms, but like I had mentioned,
had to add more like a truss to stop torsional loads. Now it's very solid
and worry free.
While on the subject, could NOT get used to the rudder bar. Didn't want to
change it cause of the "crush the rudder horn " deal. So added higher rudder
"pedals" to the bar. You can see them in the Yahoo pics. After so many hours
using your feet like flippers for the rudder, I couldn't get into seasawing my
legs to acuate the bar. When things got busy landing, my feet are flipping but
the rudder isn't ruddering.
The pucker factor called for a change.
I'm also very happy with how these came out.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: Catdesign
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my Piet pics
Walt,
I have heard about using heavy duty casters before. So you just used a off
the shelf caster? Any wisdom on selection one? Or did you just grab whatever
they had. How's it holding up? Do you land on grass or pavement? I'll be landing
on pavement. I have heard that if built to the plans the tubing might bend.
I think it was Steve Eldrige who also had this happen. I think he recommended
increasing the size of the down tubes. Pictures would be great.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my Piet pics
Chris,
I added an L shaped plate under the coil spring to give a surface parallel
to the ground. With a hole for a pivot bolt. Then kind of fabricated a tailwheel
holder to take a cheap 4" (I think) wheel. Then had to make a bracket
that holds 2 pullies for cables to go over. These were at the pivot point of
the swingarm, holding the wheel assy. The front of the cables were swaged to
the rudder cables under the seat, and the rear was attached, with springs, to
the tailwheel arms.
Turns out that cause the height of the wheel was like a lever, during tight
turns the swingarm tubes twisted. So had to fabricate like a truss assy
on the arms.
Kind of hard to explain, I'll try to dig up pics.
walt evans
NX140DL
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Subject: | Re: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error |
Me, too.
Alan Lyscars
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error
I get it too
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: Catdesign
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 3:54 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error
Lately, when I post to the list I get a NOT DELIVERED email message saying
the message I just sent was undeliverable but I know it is making it to the list.
Anyone else have this happening?
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
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Subject: | One more leak detection method to add to the list |
My wife came up with yet another method of testing for fuel tank leaks.
Actually a variation on the big ballon or condom method some of you guys
suggested. I just blow up 'Mr. Leaky' and as long as he stays happy I stay
happy.
Rick H.
--
Rick Holland
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Pietenpol-List: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: <carbarvo@knology.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 3:26 PM
Subject: NOT DELIVERED - To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> - Subject: Re:
Pietenpol-List: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error
> The message you sent was regarded as junk e-mail by the recipient's email
> server.
>
> To help ensure delivery make sure you are on the recipient's known address
> list.
>
> Thank You.
>
> Original Message Contained:
>
>
> YEP...Happened to me a couple of days ago when I attached a picture of
> Lowell Frank's Warner powered Piet to my posting. The posting made it, but
> I got the "no delivery" notice..Carl Vought
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Catdesign
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 2:54 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered
> Error
>
>
> Lately, when I post to the list I get a NOT DELIVERED email message
> saying the message I just sent was undeliverable but I know it is making
> it to the list. Anyone else have this happening?
>
> Chris Tracy
> Sacramento, Ca
>
> Do not archive
>
> [[HTML Version removed]]
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error |
Chris,
I've also had this happen to me. It makes the list though.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Catdesign
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 2:54 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error
Lately, when I post to the list I get a NOT DELIVERED email message saying the
message I just sent was undeliverable but I know it is making it to the list.
Anyone else have this happening?
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
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Subject: | Re: my Piet pics |
Walt,
Thanks for sharing. These were very inspiring pictures of a beautiful plane.
Thanks again,
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: piet list
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 4:18 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: my Piet pics
Just ran into my Yahoo pic acct. Forgot I had it. Here's the link in case any
one wants to browse my project in a nutshell. Click to make them bigger.
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/joepiet/album?.dir=3D5f03
walt evans
NX140DL
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Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel was my Piet pics |
Thanks, I'll take a look at them. The weed look good, like it's a plane that's
flown.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel was my Piet pics
Chris,
Just uploaded to Yahoo. But sent them to you directly also. If you need them
bigger, let me know. Pardon the last years debris.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: Catdesign
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:10 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tail Wheel was my Piet pics
Let me see if I have this strait, your saying you used the wheel bracket (basically
one off a shopping cart) but swapped out the wheel. >From the pictures
I have it doesn't look like any caster I have seen. If so I just might have
to take a look at some of the abandoned shopping carts next to my office Monday.
I think I can also see you added two cross brace between the to down tubes
and some diagonals. I have like a bunch of Piet photos I've collected over
the years but few show any details about tail wheels. Isn't that the way it always
happens. I remember you problems with the rudder bar. I keep going back
and forth about using a rudder bar or pedals.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my Piet pics
Chris,
Even tho the tailwheel supplied with my Fisher 404 kit was right off a shopping
cart, I didn't use it.
The wheel I used on the Piet was from AS&S. part #06-03500 (4" solid)
Nice wheel that's held up nicely on both paved and grass runways. It has ball
bearings.
I used the same tubing as the plans for the swing arms, but like I had mentioned,
had to add more like a truss to stop torsional loads. Now it's very solid
and worry free.
While on the subject, could NOT get used to the rudder bar. Didn't want to
change it cause of the "crush the rudder horn " deal. So added higher rudder
"pedals" to the bar. You can see them in the Yahoo pics. After so many hours
using your feet like flippers for the rudder, I couldn't get into seasawing
my legs to acuate the bar. When things got busy landing, my feet are flipping
but the rudder isn't ruddering.
The pucker factor called for a change.
I'm also very happy with how these came out.
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: Catdesign
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my Piet pics
Walt,
I have heard about using heavy duty casters before. So you just used a
off the shelf caster? Any wisdom on selection one? Or did you just grab whatever
they had. How's it holding up? Do you land on grass or pavement? I'll be
landing on pavement. I have heard that if built to the plans the tubing might
bend. I think it was Steve Eldrige who also had this happen. I think he recommended
increasing the size of the down tubes. Pictures would be great.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: my Piet pics
Chris,
I added an L shaped plate under the coil spring to give a surface parallel
to the ground. With a hole for a pivot bolt. Then kind of fabricated a
tailwheel holder to take a cheap 4" (I think) wheel. Then had to make a bracket
that holds 2 pullies for cables to go over. These were at the pivot point
of the swingarm, holding the wheel assy. The front of the cables were swaged
to the rudder cables under the seat, and the rear was attached, with springs,
to the tailwheel arms.
Turns out that cause the height of the wheel was like a lever, during
tight turns the swingarm tubes twisted. So had to fabricate like a truss assy
on the arms.
Kind of hard to explain, I'll try to dig up pics.
walt evans
NX140DL
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesign" <catdesign@intergate.com>
Yep that's the thing I keep getting. I'll send an email to Matt and see
what's going on.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:27 PM
Subject: Fw: NOT DELIVERED - To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> - Subject:
Re: Pietenpol-List: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <carbarvo@knology.net>
> To: <carbarvo@knology.net>
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 3:26 PM
> Subject: NOT DELIVERED - To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> - Subject: Re:
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>
>> The message you sent was regarded as junk e-mail by the recipient's email
>> server.
>>
>> To help ensure delivery make sure you are on the recipient's known
>> address list.
>>
>> Thank You.
>>
>> Original Message Contained:
>>
>>
>> YEP...Happened to me a couple of days ago when I attached a picture of
>> Lowell Frank's Warner powered Piet to my posting. The posting made it,
>> but I got the "no delivery" notice..Carl Vought
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Catdesign
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 2:54 PM
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered
>> Error
>>
>>
>> Lately, when I post to the list I get a NOT DELIVERED email message
>> saying the message I just sent was undeliverable but I know it is making
>> it to the list. Anyone else have this happening?
>>
>> Chris Tracy
>> Sacramento, Ca
>>
>> Do not archive
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
All,
I am aware of this issue. These messages are *not* coming from Matronics. They
are coming from someone subscribed to the Pietenpol-List (and a number of others,
such as the Kitfox-list and Kolb-List) and who has some Spam filtering software
mis-configured. The problem I'm having is that my posts to the List don't
seem to cause me to get one of the bounces.
I need to dissect in detail the full headers of one of these messages to determine
(hopefully) where they are actually coming from. If someone that has received
one of these could forward me a complete copy of the message including all
of the headers (in Unix email format with all of the "Received: " lines intact),
hopefully I can get this guy removed from the List.
Sorry for the hassle,
Matt Dralle
Matronics List Admin
At 08:31 PM 3/19/2006 Sunday, Catdesign wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesign" <catdesign@intergate.com>
>
>Yep that's the thing I keep getting. I'll send an email to Matt and see what's
going on.
>
>Chris Tracy
>Sacramento, Ca
>Do Not Archive
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net>
>To: "Pietenpol- List" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:27 PM
>Subject: Fw: NOT DELIVERED - To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> - Subject: Re:
Pietenpol-List: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error
>
>
>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: <carbarvo@knology.net>
>>To: <carbarvo@knology.net>
>>Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 3:26 PM
>>Subject: NOT DELIVERED - To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> - Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List:
Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error
>>
>>
>>>The message you sent was regarded as junk e-mail by the recipient's email server.
>>>
>>>To help ensure delivery make sure you are on the recipient's known address list.
>>>
>>>Thank You.
>>>
>>>Original Message Contained:
>>>
>>>
>>>YEP...Happened to me a couple of days ago when I attached a picture of Lowell
Frank's Warner powered Piet to my posting. The posting made it, but I got the
"no delivery" notice..Carl Vought
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Catdesign
>>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 2:54 PM
>>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Am I the Only One Who gets this Not Delivered Error
>>>
>>>
>>> Lately, when I post to the list I get a NOT DELIVERED email message saying
the message I just sent was undeliverable but I know it is making it to the list.
Anyone else have this happening?
>>>
>>> Chris Tracy
>>> Sacramento, Ca
>>>
>>> Do not archive
>>>
>>>[[HTML Version removed]]
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