Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 06:14 AM - cabane struts and braces (Oscar Zuniga)
2. 07:04 AM - Larry Williams (Greg Bacon)
3. 07:20 AM - Re: Update Lower Cabain Fitting (Rick Holland)
4. 07:21 AM - Re: Larry Williams (Carl Vought)
5. 08:58 AM - Larry's new e-mail address....... (Michael D Cuy)
6. 09:40 AM - Newbie (sorry long) (panhandler1956)
7. 11:14 AM - Re: Newbie (sorry long) (harvey rule)
8. 12:31 PM - Re: Newbie (sorry long) (Phillips, Jack)
9. 03:02 PM - Re: Newbie (sorry long) (Rick Holland)
10. 03:33 PM - Re: Newbie (sorry long) (walt evans)
11. 04:04 PM - Re: Newbie (sorry long) (panhandler1956)
12. 04:05 PM - Re: Newbie (sorry long) (bike.mike)
13. 04:07 PM - Re: Newbie (sorry long) (panhandler1956)
14. 04:39 PM - Re: Newbie (sorry long) (panhandler1956)
15. 05:07 PM - Re: Re: Newbie (sorry long) (harvey rule)
16. 05:10 PM - Re: Newbie (sorry long) (The Schuerrs)
17. 05:34 PM - Elevator hinges (TBYH@aol.com)
18. 05:54 PM - Re: Newbie (sorry long) (panhandler1956)
19. 05:55 PM - Re: Elevator hinges (Jim Markle)
20. 05:58 PM - Re: Elevator hinges (Catdesign)
21. 06:02 PM - Lower Cabain Fitting Problem Solved (Catdesign)
22. 06:51 PM - Re: Elevator hinges (Lynn Knoll)
23. 07:35 PM - Re: Larry Williams (Greg Bacon)
24. 07:37 PM - Re: Larry's new e-mail address....... (Greg Bacon)
25. 07:50 PM - Re: Newbie (sorry long) (Glenn Thomas)
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | cabane struts and braces |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Rick asks-
>What size were these cabane brace tubes?
I'll have to check next time I'm out at the hangar. From the pictures, they
are at least 1/2" OD and probably more than that. I checked my plans and
manual and all they say is that a brace tube is used to replace the x-brace
wiring. The plans just say "strut to wing".
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Does anyone have contact info for Larry Williams?
Thanks,
Greg Bacon
Prairie Home, MO
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Update Lower Cabain Fitting |
>
> I fell your pain......but remember we are not building a Lear Jet.... I
> found the best way to make sure you have the hole in the right place is to
> hang the plans on the back of the door, turn and walk 12 steps from door,
> right face and begin throwing darts....After the four darts have
> landed.....drill like there is no tomorrow! tee-hee-hee
>
I hang my plans upside down and backwards to the door before I throw the
dart.
do not archive
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Larry Williams |
My address book shows him at lnawms@msn.com Carl Vought
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Bacon
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:02 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Larry Williams
Does anyone have contact info for Larry Williams?
Thanks,
Greg Bacon
Prairie Home, MO
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Larry's new e-mail address....... |
Just a note to let you know of our email address change. It's
<mailto:lnawms@fuse.net>lnawms@fuse.net
Please just "reply" back, no message needed, so we can keep your address in
our address book.
You might receive double messages and I'm sorry for that.
Thanks a bunch!
Adriana and Larry
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Newbie (sorry long) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
Hi all,
I am a new "lurker" on the Pietenpol List and I am interested in building (or buying)
a Pietenpol in the not so distant future.
I just wanted to say that the passion you guys (and gals) have for this little
airplane is contagious. I will likely order my plans in the next few months. My
initial thoughts are to go with a C-90 or 0-200 because I would like to operate
out a my farm strip which is a rather short, one-way-in-one-way-out affair.
A little about me;
I am 35, married with 3 kids, and have been flying for over 20 years in various
types, currently I fly a corporate Beechjet. About 10 years ago I rebuilt a Bucker
Jungster I, so I have some concept at wood airplanes and fabric work, but
I am far from experienced when it comes to building an airplane from scratch.
My son is 10 and I was excited by the notion of a father-&-son-team with the
veritable Piet.
Any words of wisdom before I take the plunge???
Thanks in advance,
--------
Brent O.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=24815#24815
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Newbie (sorry long) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
get jeto's for her if the field is really short!
panhandler1956 wrote:
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am a new "lurker" on the Pietenpol List and I am interested in building (or
buying) a Pietenpol in the not so distant future.
>
> I just wanted to say that the passion you guys (and gals) have for this little
airplane is contagious. I will likely order my plans in the next few months.
My initial thoughts are to go with a C-90 or 0-200 because I would like to operate
out a my farm strip which is a rather short, one-way-in-one-way-out affair.
>
> A little about me;
> I am 35, married with 3 kids, and have been flying for over 20 years in various
types, currently I fly a corporate Beechjet. About 10 years ago I rebuilt a
Bucker Jungster I, so I have some concept at wood airplanes and fabric work,
but I am far from experienced when it comes to building an airplane from scratch.
My son is 10 and I was excited by the notion of a father-&-son-team with the
veritable Piet.
>
> Any words of wisdom before I take the plunge???
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --------
> Brent O.
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=24815#24815
>
>
>
>
>
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Newbie (sorry long) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
Hi Brent,
The standard words of wisdom to any new builder are the following:
1. Buy the 4 Tony Bingelis books. They will tell you 98% of what you
need to know to build a plane from scratch.
2. Try to work on the project some every day, even if only to look over
the plans and think about what you've got to do next.
3. Don't worry about mistakes. You will make plenty of them. Just
assess each one and determine if the mistake will affect flight safety.
If it does - make it over. If it doesn't, then decide if you can
personally live with the flaw and decide whether to re-make it, or let
it be.
4. There are a number of common decisions every Pietenpol builder must
make for themselves, with several good choices. Those include:
a. Engine type. Model A Ford, Corvair, Continental, other auto
engines, etc.
b. Landing gear type - split axle "Cub" style or straight axle
"Jenny" style
c. Wood selection - Sitka Spruce, Douglas Fir or other choices
d. Glue selection - T-88 Epoxy, Resorcinol, Aerolite, others
e. One piece wing or 3 piece
The list goes on and on, and is one of the things that makes every
Pietenpol unique. Just make intelligent choices and try to have good
reasons for every choice you make
5. Don't worry about the "Purists". There are those who will say that
only a model A Ford or Corvair powered plane is a true Pietenpol. BHP
built many airplanes, with everything from a Continental to a Velie
radial. One of the beauties of this design is the ease with which it
can accept a different engine. Bernard Pietenpol was the ultimate
experimenter and all such experimentation should be accepted by the
Purists.
6. Remember that the purpose of the project is to have fun. Don't
worry about rushing through the building process to get to the flying.
Building is fun. Take your time and enjoy it. Try to get your family
involved so they feel some ownership and pride in the project.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
panhandler1956
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:38 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Newbie (sorry long)
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "panhandler1956"
<bowens2@insight.rr.com>
Hi all,
I am a new "lurker" on the Pietenpol List and I am interested in
building (or buying) a Pietenpol in the not so distant future.
I just wanted to say that the passion you guys (and gals) have for this
little airplane is contagious. I will likely order my plans in the next
few months. My initial thoughts are to go with a C-90 or 0-200 because I
would like to operate out a my farm strip which is a rather short,
one-way-in-one-way-out affair.
A little about me;
I am 35, married with 3 kids, and have been flying for over 20 years in
various types, currently I fly a corporate Beechjet. About 10 years ago
I rebuilt a Bucker Jungster I, so I have some concept at wood airplanes
and fabric work, but I am far from experienced when it comes to building
an airplane from scratch. My son is 10 and I was excited by the notion
of a father-&-son-team with the veritable Piet.
Any words of wisdom before I take the plunge???
Thanks in advance,
--------
Brent O.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=24815#24815
Working together. For life.(sm)
This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary,
or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error,
please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use
of the email by you is prohibited.
Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email
Message 9
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Newbie (sorry long) |
Jack covered the basic things real well, I would say order the plans today.
The cost is peanuts and you will be able to more understand all the issues
we rant about every day on this newsgroup. One other excellent thing to do
would be to come to the Broadhead gathering the weekend before Oshkosh, see
lots of Piets and many other vintange aircraft (maybe even get a ride in
one).
Rick H.
On 3/28/06, panhandler1956 <bowens2@insight.rr.com> wrote:
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "panhandler1956" <
> bowens2@insight.rr.com>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am a new "lurker" on the Pietenpol List and I am interested in building
> (or buying) a Pietenpol in the not so distant future.
>
> I just wanted to say that the passion you guys (and gals) have for this
> little airplane is contagious. I will likely order my plans in the next few
> months. My initial thoughts are to go with a C-90 or 0-200 because I would
> like to operate out a my farm strip which is a rather short,
> one-way-in-one-way-out affair.
>
> A little about me;
> I am 35, married with 3 kids, and have been flying for over 20 years in
> various types, currently I fly a corporate Beechjet. About 10 years ago I
> rebuilt a Bucker Jungster I, so I have some concept at wood airplanes and
> fabric work, but I am far from experienced when it comes to building an
> airplane from scratch. My son is 10 and I was excited by the notion of a
> father-&-son-team with the veritable Piet.
>
> Any words of wisdom before I take the plunge???
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --------
> Brent O.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D24815#24815
>
>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
>
--
Rick Holland
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
Message 10
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Newbie (sorry long) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
Brent,
This is so cool , that a corporate jet pilot wants to get into the Pietenpol
thing. Nothing like going up on a weekend morning with the wind and smells
in your hair, and your kids will love it.
As far as taking the plunge,,,,,Dive in!
Go here and see where the Piet builders/hopefuls are. Feel free to add your
stats.
http://www.frappr.com/pietenpol
And any other builders who haven't gotton on Frapper, you should. You can
see at a glance.
AIN'T LIFE GRAND!
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:38 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Newbie (sorry long)
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "panhandler1956"
> <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am a new "lurker" on the Pietenpol List and I am interested in building
> (or buying) a Pietenpol in the not so distant future.
>
> I just wanted to say that the passion you guys (and gals) have for this
> little airplane is contagious. I will likely order my plans in the next
> few months. My initial thoughts are to go with a C-90 or 0-200 because I
> would like to operate out a my farm strip which is a rather short,
> one-way-in-one-way-out affair.
>
> A little about me;
> I am 35, married with 3 kids, and have been flying for over 20 years in
> various types, currently I fly a corporate Beechjet. About 10 years ago I
> rebuilt a Bucker Jungster I, so I have some concept at wood airplanes and
> fabric work, but I am far from experienced when it comes to building an
> airplane from scratch. My son is 10 and I was excited by the notion of a
> father-&-son-team with the veritable Piet.
>
> Any words of wisdom before I take the plunge???
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --------
> Brent O.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=24815#24815
>
>
>
Message 11
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Newbie (sorry long) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
Guys,
Thanks for the great advise. I will be asking many "dumb" questions in the future,
although I'll try to search the archives first.
I just ordered Chuck Gantzer's video, I can't wait to see that.
Regards,
--------
Brent O.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=24880#24880
Message 12
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Newbie (sorry long) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "bike.mike" <bike.mike@charter.net>
No different than a race car driver who likes his bicycle or a computer
draftsman who likes to sketch with pencil. Most of us on this list have
flown, and continue to fly, other, faster, newer, airplanes.
Pietenpols are not "less" than other airplanes; they are merely different.
And they are different in so many beautiful ways.
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
> This is so cool , that a corporate jet pilot wants to get into the
Pietenpol
> thing. [snip]
Message 13
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Newbie (sorry long) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
Walt,
I signed up on the frappr. Thanks!
Brent O.
waltdak(at)verizon.net wrote:
> Brent,
> This is so cool , that a corporate jet pilot wants to get into the Pietenpol
> thing. Nothing like going up on a weekend morning with the wind and smells
> in your hair, and your kids will love it.
> As far as taking the plunge,,,,,Dive in!
> Go here and see where the Piet builders/hopefuls are. Feel free to add your
> stats.
> http://www.frappr.com/pietenpol
> And any other builders who haven't gotton on Frapper, you should. You can
> see at a glance.
>
> AIN'T LIFE GRAND!
> walt evans
> NX140DL
>
>
>
> ---
--------
Brent O.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=24881#24881
Message 14
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Newbie (sorry long) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
First dumb question. I searched the archives, I promise.
I would like to go ahead and get a set of plans and I realise that the "family"
is the place to go.
Should I order the package deal - includes plans, 3 piece wing plans, & supplemental
drawings? I was also going to grab the full size rib drawing and the builders
manual - basically everything they sell except for the scout plans.
Also is there a complete list of other folks who have plans/drawings of subsystems, etc? I noticed the name Keri-Ann Price among others who offer (offered) additional info. Looks like I missed out as the website "www.aircamper.org" was mentioned often, but the link is dead.
Thanks in advance!
--------
Brent O.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=24888#24888
Message 15
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Newbie (sorry long) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
No such thing as a dumb question;the dumbness comes when the questions
arn't asked!Ask away man your in good hands!These guys are the greatest!
panhandler1956 wrote:
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
>
> Guys,
> Thanks for the great advise. I will be asking many "dumb" questions in the future,
although I'll try to search the archives first.
>
> I just ordered Chuck Gantzer's video, I can't wait to see that.
>
> Regards,
>
> --------
> Brent O.
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=24880#24880
>
>
>
>
>
Message 16
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Newbie (sorry long) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "The Schuerrs" <schuerrs@charter.net>
Brent,
My sons and I are also new to the scene and looking to build. What a great
way to spend time with your kids. And you also get to fly it when its done.
Where do you live? Good luck!
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:38 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Newbie (sorry long)
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "panhandler1956"
> <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am a new "lurker" on the Pietenpol List and I am interested in building
> (or buying) a Pietenpol in the not so distant future.
>
> I just wanted to say that the passion you guys (and gals) have for this
> little airplane is contagious. I will likely order my plans in the next
> few months. My initial thoughts are to go with a C-90 or 0-200 because I
> would like to operate out a my farm strip which is a rather short,
> one-way-in-one-way-out affair.
>
> A little about me;
> I am 35, married with 3 kids, and have been flying for over 20 years in
> various types, currently I fly a corporate Beechjet. About 10 years ago I
> rebuilt a Bucker Jungster I, so I have some concept at wood airplanes and
> fabric work, but I am far from experienced when it comes to building an
> airplane from scratch. My son is 10 and I was excited by the notion of a
> father-&-son-team with the veritable Piet.
>
> Any words of wisdom before I take the plunge???
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --------
> Brent O.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=24815#24815
>
>
>
Message 17
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
So -- what's the best way to mortise in or countersink the Vi Kapler aluminum
hinges in the horizontal stab and elevator? Can it be done with careful use
of a good, sharp wood chisel? I have a router, but I'm afraid I'd slip and ruin
the main beam of the stab or elevator...would appreciate any tips.
Fred B.
La Crosse, WI
Message 18
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Newbie (sorry long) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
Yeah we are really looking forward to it. I promised the wife I wouldn't build
an airplane till my youngest is 4 yrs old (2 more years), but that won't keep
me and my son from stamping out a few ribs [Laughing] . I live just outside of
Columbus, Oh in Blacklick.
Brent O.
schuerrs(at)charter.net wrote:
> Brent,
>
> My sons and I are also new to the scene and looking to build. What a great
> way to spend time with your kids. And you also get to fly it when its done.
> Where do you live? Good luck!
>
> Steve
> ---
--------
Brent O.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=24911#24911
Message 19
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Elevator hinges |
Here's a "non slip" method for cutting those recesses (and hinge mortices, and
a LOT of other stuff!)....
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/buildLogReportDetail.cfm?BuildLogID=3D271&PlaneID=3D52&FName=3DJim&LName=3DMarkle&PlaneName=3DAir%20Camper
If the link fails, go to mykitplane.com and look at my 11.18.2002 entry.
jm
----- Original Message -----
From: TBYH@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:33 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator hinges
So -- what's the best way to mortise in or countersink the Vi Kapler aluminum
hinges in the horizontal stab and elevator? Can it be done with careful use of
a good, sharp wood chisel? I have a router, but I'm afraid I'd slip and ruin
the main beam of the stab or elevator...would appreciate any tips.
Fred B.
La Crosse, WI
Message 20
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Elevator hinges |
I did it like this after I built the whole tail structure. http://www.hal-pc.org/~hjkr/hingeslots.htm
Alignment was easier this way. Worked great and was easy. The chisel did not
work well enough.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: TBYH@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:33 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator hinges
So -- what's the best way to mortise in or countersink the Vi Kapler aluminum
hinges in the horizontal stab and elevator? Can it be done with careful use of
a good, sharp wood chisel? I have a router, but I'm afraid I'd slip and ruin
the main beam of the stab or elevator...would appreciate any tips.
Fred B.
La Crosse, WI
Message 21
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Lower Cabain Fitting Problem Solved |
All,
Thanks for all the help and advice about the lower cabain fitting (labeled
inside strut fitting on the plans). I now know why no one has mentioned this
before.
As luck would have it, I happen to have a piece of streamlined tubing in my
4130 scrap box of I got from Aircraft Spruce (I also like their barging bag
of spruce cutoffs, something like $20, see their catalog). This tubing is
just about, if not exactly, the correct size for the vertical struts. As
you can see from the picture, even though there appeared to be no room for
the strut to fit between the front seat back and the fitting, it fits quite
easily. As someone pointed out in response to my original question, the fat
part of the tubing is towards the front 1/3rd thus making it fit in this
small space. So, once again the plans are correct and the builder is wrong.
Now repeat after me, follow the plans, follow the plans, follow the plans.
I have no idea why the long fuselage plans added the " brace with the note
"3/4"x3 Filler For Strut Fitting". It seems to be split 50-50 as to whether
or not to put your fitting on this filler piece. I thought it was for
clearance but that seems wrong now. I'm tempted to put my fitting on the
filler because I would like to build a metal frame right behind the headrest
to mount shoulder straps on to. But, and here is my problem, I would also
want to move the front one back the same amount. This would keep the
vertical struts parallel with the added benefit of moving the wing back
about 1" as I'm sure I will need to slant the struts back later to correct a
rearward CG. I'm thinking too much. This is how projects get stalled, like
mine is right now. I think the best thing to do is just move the back one
and deal with it. It works, so don't change it. Right? Ouch, my brain
hurts.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Message 22
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Elevator hinges |
Fred,
Jim & Criss did a beautiful job with a router. Using a good sharp chisel works
also, just take your time. If you get a little wide, long, or deep wood filler
can come to the rescue. Remember, eventually they will be covered.
Lynn Knoll
Piet/Vair
Wichita
----- Original Message -----
From: TBYH@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:33 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator hinges
So -- what's the best way to mortise in or countersink the Vi Kapler aluminum
hinges in the horizontal stab and elevator? Can it be done with careful use of
a good, sharp wood chisel? I have a router, but I'm afraid I'd slip and ruin
the main beam of the stab or elevator...would appreciate any tips.
Fred B.
La Crosse, WI
Message 23
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Larry Williams |
Thank you Carl.
do not archive
Greg Bacon
Prairie Home, MO
----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Vought
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Larry Williams
My address book shows him at lnawms@msn.com Carl Vought
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Bacon
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:02 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Larry Williams
Does anyone have contact info for Larry Williams?
Thanks,
Greg Bacon
Prairie Home, MO
Message 24
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Larry's new e-mail address....... |
Michael,
Thanks for updating me on Larry's new email address.
Greg Bacon
Prairie Home, MO
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael D Cuy
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:56 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Larry's new e-mail address.......
Just a note to let you know of our email address change. It's lnawms@fuse.net
Please just "reply" back, no message needed, so we can keep your address in our
address book.
You might receive double messages and I'm sorry for that.
Thanks a bunch!
Adriana and Larry
Message 25
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Newbie (sorry long) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
The plans from the family are what I got, from Don Pietenpol himself. I bought
the bundle like you were talking about doing. ...and also the full size rib
plan. The printing process can alter the dimensions slightly and humidity can
change the size of the paper and for that reason I plotted the dimensions on
the wing drawings directly onto the rib jig. What the full size plan WAS helpful
for was positioning the bracing structure between the upper and lower capstrips.
Dimensions are not given in the plans so I was pleased to be able to refer
to the rib plan for that. I think it was an additional $16 for that sheet.
The Flying and Glider manual is also nice to have.
I see you got Chuck's video. Michael Cuy also has a video. They are both great
resources to have and I've seen them both MULTIPLE times.
Enjoy!
--------
Glenn Thomas
N?????
http://www.flyingwood.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=24942#24942
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|