Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Thu 03/30/06


Total Messages Posted: 20



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:55 AM - Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA (Phillips, Jack)
     2. 08:17 AM - Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA (Barry Davis)
     3. 08:28 AM - Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA (Phillips, Jack)
     4. 09:44 AM - Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA (Jim Ash)
     5. 10:03 AM - Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA (harvey rule)
     6. 10:20 AM - Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA (Jim Ash)
     7. 10:31 AM - Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA (Phillips, Jack)
     8. 10:31 AM - Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA (harvey rule)
     9. 12:29 PM - Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA (Kenneth M. Heide)
    10. 01:28 PM - Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA (Phillips, Jack)
    11. 01:46 PM - wider, standard....longer, shorter (Michael D Cuy)
    12. 01:52 PM - Re: wider, standard....longer, shorter (Phillips, Jack)
    13. 02:01 PM - Re: wider, standard....longer, shorter (John Hofmann)
    14. 02:17 PM - Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA (Gary Gower)
    15. 02:19 PM - Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA (Lou Wither)
    16. 02:24 PM - Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA (Jim Ash)
    17. 03:44 PM - Re: Model A engine question (Michael Conkling)
    18. 04:35 PM - Re: Model A engine question (Carl Vought)
    19. 05:46 PM - gas thrust augmentor (Oscar Zuniga)
    20. 07:29 PM - Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA (Nick Harris)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:55:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
    I'd love to come to CTJ for the Sosuthen Pietenpol fly-in, but I will be returning from my honeymoon the second weekend in July. Any chance of changing that date? Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Davis Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:45 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA Hope to see everyone at Sun & Fun next week. Some of the Big Piet Builders are flying down to Key West this weekend as a pre-runner to our flying the Piets to the Bahamas, then back to SNF for the week. Looks like we are having a Southern Piet Fly-in this fall. Looks like the 2nd Saturday/Sun in July. Airport will be Carrollton, Ga, CTJ. More info to follow after Sun n Fun. PLEASE give us some feedback on this. Barry Davis Working together. For life.(sm) This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email


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    Time: 08:17:15 AM PST US
    From: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA
    Jack That date is not in stone as yet. After seeing your Piet at Brodhead, it is important that you can attend. Will keep you posted. Are you going to SNF? ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillips, Jack To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:49 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA I'd love to come to CTJ for the Sosuthen Pietenpol fly-in, but I will be returning from my honeymoon the second weekend in July. Any chance of changing that date? Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Davis Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:45 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA Hope to see everyone at Sun & Fun next week. Some of the Big Piet Builders are flying down to Key West this weekend as a pre-runner to our flying the Piets to the Bahamas, then back to SNF for the week. Looks like we are having a Southern Piet Fly-in this fall. Looks like the 2nd Saturday/Sun in July. Airport will be Carrollton, Ga, CTJ. More info to follow after Sun n Fun. PLEASE give us some feedback on this. Barry Davis Working together. For life.(sm) This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email


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    Time: 08:28:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
    Wish I could, but just don't have the time this year. I had originally planned to fly formation down there with PF Beck from South Carolina. I would definitely try to come to a southern Pietenpol fly-in. I can't make Brodhead or Oshkosh either this year. Thanks for the compliment about my plane. Jack -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Davis Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:15 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA Jack That date is not in stone as yet. After seeing your Piet at Brodhead, it is important that you can attend. Will keep you posted. Are you going to SNF? ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillips, Jack <mailto:Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:49 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA I'd love to come to CTJ for the Sosuthen Pietenpol fly-in, but I will be returning from my honeymoon the second weekend in July. Any chance of changing that date? Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Davis Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:45 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA Hope to see everyone at Sun & Fun next week. Some of the Big Piet Builders are flying down to Key West this weekend as a pre-runner to our flying the Piets to the Bahamas, then back to SNF for the week. Looks like we are having a Southern Piet Fly-in this fall. Looks like the 2nd Saturday/Sun in July. Airport will be Carrollton, Ga, CTJ. More info to follow after Sun n Fun. PLEASE give us some feedback on this. Barry Davis Working together. For life.(sm) _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email Working together. For life.(sm) This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email


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    Time: 09:44:11 AM PST US
    From: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA
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    Time: 10:03:26 AM PST US
    From: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
    Subject: Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca> Now there is a dedicated dude.Of all the planes he could get a seat in,he wants to sit in a Piet!Wow!I'm impressed! do not archive Jim Ash wrote: > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash > Can I get a volunteer to let me sit in somebody's Piet at Sun 'n Fun? > Last year I wanted to do this, but didn't see any Piets there. I'll be > working the metal forming workshop until I have to leave on Sunday > afternoon. > > Jim Ash > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barry Davis > Sent: Mar 30, 2006 11:14 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > > Jack > That date is not in stone as yet. After seeing your Piet at Brodhead, > it is important that you can attend. Will keep you posted. Are you > going to SNF? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Phillips, Jack > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:49 AM > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > > Id love to come to CTJ for the Sosuthen Pietenpol fly-in, > but I will be returning from my honeymoon the second weekend > in July. Any chance of changing that date? > > > > Jack Phillips > > NX899JP > > Raleigh, NC > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf > Of Barry Davis > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:45 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > > > > Hope to see everyone at Sun & Fun next week. > > Some of the Big Piet Builders are flying down to Key West > this weekend as a pre-runner to our flying the Piets to the > Bahamas, then back to SNF for the week. > > > > Looks like we are having a Southern Piet Fly-in this fall. > Looks like the 2nd Saturday/Sun in July. > > Airport will be Carrollton, Ga, CTJ. More info to follow > after Sun n Fun. PLEASE give us some feedback on this. > > > > Barry Davis > > Working together. For life.(sm) > _________________________________________________ > > This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. > > Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List


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    Time: 10:20:04 AM PST US
    From: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net> I've sat in plenty. I need to know how well my seat seats in a Piet before I put a bunch of time into building one for myself. I need to make sure at 200lb and 6'2" that I won't hate myself after an hour of flying. I've already collected some of the stuff, but haven't put any work into it yet. Jim -----Original Message----- >From: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca> >Sent: Mar 30, 2006 1:02 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca> > >Now there is a dedicated dude.Of all the planes he could get a seat >in,he wants to sit in a Piet!Wow!I'm impressed! > >do not archive > >Jim Ash wrote: >> >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash >> Can I get a volunteer to let me sit in somebody's Piet at Sun 'n Fun? >> Last year I wanted to do this, but didn't see any Piets there. I'll be >> working the metal forming workshop until I have to leave on Sunday >> afternoon. >> >> Jim Ash >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Barry Davis >> Sent: Mar 30, 2006 11:14 AM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA >> >> Jack >> That date is not in stone as yet. After seeing your Piet at Brodhead, >> it is important that you can attend. Will keep you posted. Are you >> going to SNF? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Phillips, Jack >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:49 AM >> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA >> >> Id love to come to CTJ for the Sosuthen Pietenpol fly-in, >> but I will be returning from my honeymoon the second weekend >> in July. Any chance of changing that date? >> >> >> >> Jack Phillips >> >> NX899JP >> >> Raleigh, NC >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf >> Of Barry Davis >> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:45 PM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA >> >> >> >> Hope to see everyone at Sun & Fun next week. >> >> Some of the Big Piet Builders are flying down to Key West >> this weekend as a pre-runner to our flying the Piets to the >> Bahamas, then back to SNF for the week. >> >> >> >> Looks like we are having a Southern Piet Fly-in this fall. >> Looks like the 2nd Saturday/Sun in July. >> >> Airport will be Carrollton, Ga, CTJ. More info to follow >> after Sun n Fun. PLEASE give us some feedback on this. >> >> >> >> Barry Davis >> >> Working together. For life.(sm) >> _________________________________________________ >> >> This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. >> >> Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email >> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:31:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> I'm 6'2" and 200 lbs. Sat in my Pietenpol for 37 hours of flying this past summer going from Raleigh, NC to Brodhead, to Oshkosh, and back home via west Tennessee. Not a problem. Jack Phillips NX899JP -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ash Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 1:19 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net> I've sat in plenty. I need to know how well my seat seats in a Piet before I put a bunch of time into building one for myself. I need to make sure at 200lb and 6'2" that I won't hate myself after an hour of flying. I've already collected some of the stuff, but haven't put any work into it yet. Jim -----Original Message----- >From: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca> >Sent: Mar 30, 2006 1:02 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca> > >Now there is a dedicated dude.Of all the planes he could get a seat >in,he wants to sit in a Piet!Wow!I'm impressed! > >do not archive > >Jim Ash wrote: >> >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash >> Can I get a volunteer to let me sit in somebody's Piet at Sun 'n Fun? >> Last year I wanted to do this, but didn't see any Piets there. I'll be >> working the metal forming workshop until I have to leave on Sunday >> afternoon. >> >> Jim Ash >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Barry Davis >> Sent: Mar 30, 2006 11:14 AM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA >> >> Jack >> That date is not in stone as yet. After seeing your Piet at Brodhead, >> it is important that you can attend. Will keep you posted. Are you >> going to SNF? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Phillips, Jack >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:49 AM >> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA >> >> I'd love to come to CTJ for the Sosuthen Pietenpol fly-in, >> but I will be returning from my honeymoon the second weekend >> in July. Any chance of changing that date? >> >> >> >> Jack Phillips >> >> NX899JP >> >> Raleigh, NC >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf >> Of Barry Davis >> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:45 PM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA >> >> >> >> Hope to see everyone at Sun & Fun next week. >> >> Some of the Big Piet Builders are flying down to Key West >> this weekend as a pre-runner to our flying the Piets to the >> Bahamas, then back to SNF for the week. >> >> >> >> Looks like we are having a Southern Piet Fly-in this fall. >> Looks like the 2nd Saturday/Sun in July. >> >> Airport will be Carrollton, Ga, CTJ. More info to follow >> after Sun n Fun. PLEASE give us some feedback on this. >> >> >> >> Barry Davis >> >> Working together. For life.(sm) >> _________________________________________________ >> >> This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. >> >> Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email >> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > > > > > > > Working together. For life.(sm) This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email


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    Time: 10:31:04 AM PST US
    From: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
    Subject: Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca> Now there ya go;I'm 200lbs myself and I always said I was the perfect weight for someone 6'2" however I'm only 5'3" on a good day.Boy you talk about a fat ass eh!I've only just sat in mine.I've yet to experience flight in her.Should be interesting to see how long I'll last in there!I don't think much can equal the pain of sitting in a Lazair for 2 1/2 hours with all that noise and vibration but I used to do that on a regular basis.Ya gotta love flyin!I'm the type of guy who goes out and buys something without even tryin the dam thing on.When it comes to airplanes ,I just get so excited! do not archive Jim Ash wrote: > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net> > > I've sat in plenty. I need to know how well my seat seats in a Piet before I put a bunch of time into building one for myself. I need to make sure at 200lb and 6'2" that I won't hate myself after an hour of flying. I've already collected some of the stuff, but haven't put any work into it yet. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > >From: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca> > >Sent: Mar 30, 2006 1:02 PM > >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > > > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca> > > > >Now there is a dedicated dude.Of all the planes he could get a seat > >in,he wants to sit in a Piet!Wow!I'm impressed! > > > >do not archive > > > >Jim Ash wrote: > >> > >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash > >> Can I get a volunteer to let me sit in somebody's Piet at Sun 'n Fun? > >> Last year I wanted to do this, but didn't see any Piets there. I'll be > >> working the metal forming workshop until I have to leave on Sunday > >> afternoon. > >> > >> Jim Ash > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Barry Davis > >> Sent: Mar 30, 2006 11:14 AM > >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > >> > >> Jack > >> That date is not in stone as yet. After seeing your Piet at Brodhead, > >> it is important that you can attend. Will keep you posted. Are you > >> going to SNF? > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Phillips, Jack > >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:49 AM > >> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > >> > >> Id love to come to CTJ for the Sosuthen Pietenpol fly-in, > >> but I will be returning from my honeymoon the second weekend > >> in July. Any chance of changing that date? > >> > >> > >> > >> Jack Phillips > >> > >> NX899JP > >> > >> Raleigh, NC > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf > >> Of Barry Davis > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:45 PM > >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > >> > >> > >> > >> Hope to see everyone at Sun & Fun next week. > >> > >> Some of the Big Piet Builders are flying down to Key West > >> this weekend as a pre-runner to our flying the Piets to the > >> Bahamas, then back to SNF for the week. > >> > >> > >> > >> Looks like we are having a Southern Piet Fly-in this fall. > >> Looks like the 2nd Saturday/Sun in July. > >> > >> Airport will be Carrollton, Ga, CTJ. More info to follow > >> after Sun n Fun. PLEASE give us some feedback on this. > >> > >> > >> > >> Barry Davis > >> > >> Working together. For life.(sm) > >> _________________________________________________ > >> > >> This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. > >> > >> Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email > >> > >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 12:29:32 PM PST US
    From: "Kenneth M. Heide" <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA
    I am too on the light side of heavy.....or there about. I am 6' 0" tall and 265lbs (in good shape with a little anterior distal belly bulge) and interested in hearing from others who may have widened their fuse. I had planned on doing this modification to my plans so I could install my recliner chair to fit my big rear end. However.....my neighbor said that I had cranial rectal inversion.....? Maybe this is why I am so heavy? Go figure..... Any thoughts on the wider fuse? Ken H. Fargo, ND harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca> wrote: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule Now there ya go;I'm 200lbs myself and I always said I was the perfect weight for someone 6'2" however I'm only 5'3" on a good day.Boy you talk about a fat ass eh!I've only just sat in mine.I've yet to experience flight in her.Should be interesting to see how long I'll last in there!I don't think much can equal the pain of sitting in a Lazair for 2 1/2 hours with all that noise and vibration but I used to do that on a regular basis.Ya gotta love flyin!I'm the type of guy who goes out and buys something without even tryin the dam thing on.When it comes to airplanes ,I just get so excited! do not archive Jim Ash wrote: > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash > > I've sat in plenty. I need to know how well my seat seats in a Piet before I put a bunch of time into building one for myself. I need to make sure at 200lb and 6'2" that I won't hate myself after an hour of flying. I've already collected some of the stuff, but haven't put any work into it yet. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > >From: harvey rule > >Sent: Mar 30, 2006 1:02 PM > >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > > > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule > > > >Now there is a dedicated dude.Of all the planes he could get a seat > >in,he wants to sit in a Piet!Wow!I'm impressed! > > > >do not archive > > > >Jim Ash wrote: > >> > >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash > >> Can I get a volunteer to let me sit in somebody's Piet at Sun 'n Fun? > >> Last year I wanted to do this, but didn't see any Piets there. I'll be > >> working the metal forming workshop until I have to leave on Sunday > >> afternoon. > >> > >> Jim Ash > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Barry Davis > >> Sent: Mar 30, 2006 11:14 AM > >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > >> > >> Jack > >> That date is not in stone as yet. After seeing your Piet at Brodhead, > >> it is important that you can attend. Will keep you posted. Are you > >> going to SNF? > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Phillips, Jack > >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:49 AM > >> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > >> > >> Id love to come to CTJ for the Sosuthen Pietenpol fly-in, > >> but I will be returning from my honeymoon the second weekend > >> in July. Any chance of changing that date? > >> > >> > >> > >> Jack Phillips > >> > >> NX899JP > >> > >> Raleigh, NC > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf > >> Of Barry Davis > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:45 PM > >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > >> > >> > >> > >> Hope to see everyone at Sun & Fun next week. > >> > >> Some of the Big Piet Builders are flying down to Key West > >> this weekend as a pre-runner to our flying the Piets to the > >> Bahamas, then back to SNF for the week. > >> > >> > >> > >> Looks like we are having a Southern Piet Fly-in this fall. > >> Looks like the 2nd Saturday/Sun in July. > >> > >> Airport will be Carrollton, Ga, CTJ. More info to follow > >> after Sun n Fun. PLEASE give us some feedback on this. > >> > >> > >> > >> Barry Davis > >> > >> Working together. For life.(sm) > >> _________________________________________________ > >> > >> This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. > >> > >> Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email > >> > >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------


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    Time: 01:28:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
    My fuselage is 1" wider than plans. Makes for a more comfortable ride, with room for sandwiches and water bottles, etc. alongside your butt. Bear in mind that there are serious considerations in changing the width. No longer can you get 2 usable pieces of plywood from a 4 x 8 sheet. You get one 25" piece and a useless 23" piece, so the whole airplane will end up costing you more. It will also end up heavier, by at least 10 to 20 lbs, because all the lateral members are now longer, as well as heavy things like the firewall. You will have more aluminum in the cowling as well. Of course, you also have to change the centersection cabane fittings to match up with the fuselage so the cabane struts are in line. All things considered, I'm glad I made mine wider. But it is heavy. My Pietenpol weighs in at 745 lbs, and its climb performance suffers. Mike Cuy and I flew formation from Cleveland to Brodhead last summer. Our planes both have wire wheels and 65 hp Continental engines, and their performance was identical, except in climb. He was probably getting at least 100 fpm more than I was. His plane weighs 632, mine 745. Not all of that difference is due to the extra width, I also have an electrical system, a radio and a transponder. Jack Phillips NX899JP -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth M Heide Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 3:27 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA I am too on the light side of heavy.....or there about. I am 6' 0" tall and 265lbs (in good shape with a little anterior distal belly bulge) and interested in hearing from others who may have widened their fuse. I had planned on doing this modification to my plans so I could install my recliner chair to fit my big rear end. However.....my neighbor said that I had cranial rectal inversion.....? Maybe this is why I am so heavy? Go figure..... Any thoughts on the wider fuse? Ken H. Fargo, ND harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca> wrote: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule =09 Now there ya go;I'm 200lbs myself and I always said I was the perfect weight for someone 6'2" however I'm only 5'3" on a good day.Boy you talk about a fat ass eh!I've only just sat in mine.I've yet to experience flight in her.Should be interesting to see how long I'll last in there!I don't think much can equal the pain of sitting in a Lazair for 2 1/2 hours with all that noise and vibration but I used to do that on a regular basis.Ya gotta love flyin!I'm the type of guy who goes out and buys something without even tryin the dam thing on.When it comes to airplanes ,I just get so excited! =09 do not archive =09 Jim Ash wrote: > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash > > I've sat in plenty. I need to know how well my seat seats in a Piet before I put a bunch of time into building one for myself. I need to make sure at 200lb and 6'2" that I won't hate myself after an hour of flying. I've already collected some of the stuff, but haven't put any work into it yet. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > >From: harvey rule > >Sent: Mar 30, 2006 1:02 PM > >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > > > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule > > > >Now there is a dedicated dude.Of all the planes he could get a seat > >in,he wants to sit in a Piet!Wow!I'm impressed! > > > >do not archive > > > >Jim Ash wrote: > >> > >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash > >> Can I get a volunteer to let me sit in somebody's Piet at Sun 'n Fun? > >> Last year I wanted to do this, but didn't see any Piets there. I'll be > >> working the metal forming workshop until I have to leave on Sunday > >> afternoon. > >> > >> Jim Ash > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > > From: Barry Davis > >> Sent: Mar 30, 2006 11:14 AM > >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > >> > >> Jack > >> That date is not in stone as yet. After seeing your Piet at Brodhead, > >> it is important that you can attend. Will keep you posted. Are you > >> going to SNF? > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Phillips, Jack > >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:49 AM > >> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > >> > >> I'd love to come to CTJ for the Sosuthen Pietenpol fly-in, > >> but I will be returning from my honeymoon the second weekend > >> in July. Any chance of changing that date? > >> > >> > >> > >> Jack Phillips > >> > >> NX899JP > >> > >> Raleigh, NC > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf > >> Of Barry Davis > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:45 PM > >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > >> > >> > >> > >> Hope to see everyone at Sun & Fun next week. > >> > >> Some of the Big Piet Builders are flying down to Key West > >> this weekend as a pre-runner to our flying the Piets to the > >> Bahamas, then back to SNF for the week. > >> > >> > >> > >> Looks like we are havi ng a Southern Piet Fly-in this fall. > >> Looks like the 2nd Saturday/Sun in July. > >> > >> Airport will be Carrollton, Ga, CTJ. More info to follow > >> after Sun n Fun. PLEASE give us some feedback on this. > >> > >> > >> > >> Barry Davis > >> > >> Working together. For life.(sm) > >> _________________________________________________ > >> > >> This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. > >> > >> Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email > >> > >> =09 _____ <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman4/*http:/us.rd.yahoo.com your PC for low, low rates. Working together. For life.(sm) This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. 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    Time: 01:46:58 PM PST US
    From: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
    Subject: wider, standard....longer, shorter
    In all fairness to Jack on our Cleveland-to-Brodhead trip last July, he was carrying a heavy load of baggage and the OAT was pushing 90 F as I recall so his extra weight did cost some climb, but head-to-head he'd do just fine if equally loaded. Jack is right though--making things wider, longer, will cost some penalty (had not even thought about the plywood utilization issues ! ) Besides....Jack doesn't know I was using my human compressed gas thrust augmentor during climbout......:)) Mike C.


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    Time: 01:52:05 PM PST US
    Subject: wider, standard....longer, shorter
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
    And I thought that smell was the barnyards we were flying over! Jack -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael D Cuy Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 4:45 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: wider, standard....longer, shorter In all fairness to Jack on our Cleveland-to-Brodhead trip last July, he was carrying a heavy load of baggage and the OAT was pushing 90 F as I recall so his extra weight did cost some climb, but head-to-head he'd do just fine if equally loaded. Jack is right though--making things wider, longer, will cost some penalty (had not even thought about the plywood utilization issues ! ) Besides....Jack doesn't know I was using my human compressed gas thrust augmentor during climbout......:)) Mike C. Working together. For life.(sm) This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email


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    Time: 02:01:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: wider, standard....longer, shorter
    From: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com> Mikee, if I recall, you used that augmenter most of the weekend.... -john- > > In all fairness to Jack on our Cleveland-to-Brodhead trip last July, he was > carrying a heavy load of baggage and the OAT was pushing > > 90 F as I recall so his extra weight did cost some climb, but head-to-head > he'd do just fine if equally loaded. > > Jack is right though--making things wider, longer, will cost some penalty (had > not even thought about the plywood utilization issues ! ) > > Besides....Jack doesn't know I was using my human compressed gas thrust > augmentor during climbout......:)) > > Mike C. > > >


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    Time: 02:17:06 PM PST US
    From: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA
    Cc: Gary GowerR <ggower_99@yahoo.com> Shure, no problem get married next year... See... first problem with marriage... Now seroius Jack Congratulations! Best wishes for your new life. Saludos Gary Gower Do not archive. "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> wrote: Id love to come to CTJ for the Sosuthen Pietenpol fly-in, but I will be returning from my honeymoon the second weekend in July. Any chance of changing that date? Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Davis Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:45 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA Hope to see everyone at Sun & Fun next week. Some of the Big Piet Builders are flying down to Key West this weekend as a pre-runner to our flying the Piets to the Bahamas, then back to SNF for the week. Looks like we are having a Southern Piet Fly-in this fall. Looks like the 2nd Saturday/Sun in July. Airport will be Carrollton, Ga, CTJ. More info to follow after Sun n Fun. PLEASE give us some feedback on this. Barry Davis ---------------------------------


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    Time: 02:19:03 PM PST US
    From: Lou Wither <nav8799h@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA
    I guess that I can fit into this conversation at 6'-0 and 235 lbs. I have no problem with the width of the fuselage. I moved the rudder pedals (steering bar is in the front cockpit) ahead slightly. The biggest thing that I have found is that the plane as designed is tail heavy and I am fighting with an aft CG. I moved the engine out 5" from the drawing plans and moved the wing back 2" and I still have to put in about 30 lbs of ballast to maintain CG with my oversized butt. The numbers work out perfectly for the atypical 170 lb pilot. Lou


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    Time: 02:24:05 PM PST US
    From: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA
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    Time: 03:44:02 PM PST US
    From: "Michael Conkling" <hpvs@southwind.net>
    Subject: Re: Model A engine question
    Ken Perkins does a .060 flycut (matching cylinder bores in a Model "B" head gasket) in his Alum. heads so the pistons won't get cracked due to carbon build up. He is in www.mykitplane.com in the Pietenpol listings -- he'd be the one to talk to on the heads (& etc.) -- His engine did it's stuff in 2004 for my Piet ride at Brodhead!! ;-) Mike C. Pretty Prairie, KS ----- Original Message ----- From: Carl Vought To: Pietenpol- List Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:30 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model A engine question I'm completing the work on my Model A engine and I'd like to get some help on the head. I've checked the archives . I bought the Dan Price head and as some of you know, consideration must be given to clearance between the head and the pistons. At TDC, my pistons are .045 above the deck. if I cut too much clearance in the head, the compression ratio will be lowered. If I cut too little, the piston will strike the head. Sufficient clearance must be allowed for carbon buildup and thermal expansion of the rod. Can anybody out there give me some guidance on a procedure for determining optimum cllearance? I would appreciat that very much........Carl Vought


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    Time: 04:35:40 PM PST US
    From: "Carl Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net>
    Subject: Re: Model A engine question
    Nice recommendation from a position of knowlege...thank you. I didn't get in touch with Ken because he makes his liveliehood from what he knows. He may not mind giving out a freebe....I'll check....Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Conkling To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:40 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A engine question Ken Perkins does a .060 flycut (matching cylinder bores in a Model "B" head gasket) in his Alum. heads so the pistons won't get cracked due to carbon build up. He is in www.mykitplane.com in the Pietenpol listings -- he'd be the one to talk to on the heads (& etc.) -- His engine did it's stuff in 2004 for my Piet ride at Brodhead!! ;-) Mike C. Pretty Prairie, KS ----- Original Message ----- From: Carl Vought To: Pietenpol- List Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:30 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model A engine question I'm completing the work on my Model A engine and I'd like to get some help on the head. I've checked the archives . I bought the Dan Price head and as some of you know, consideration must be given to clearance between the head and the pistons. At TDC, my pistons are .045 above the deck. if I cut too much clearance in the head, the compression ratio will be lowered. If I cut too little, the piston will strike the head. Sufficient clearance must be allowed for carbon buildup and thermal expansion of the rod. Can anybody out there give me some guidance on a procedure for determining optimum cllearance? I would appreciat that very much........Carl Vought


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    Time: 05:46:04 PM PST US
    From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: gas thrust augmentor
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> Mike Cuy wrote- >Jack doesn't know I was using my human compressed gas thrust augmentor >during climbout......:)) Mike, you were briefed about the classified nature of that information for TACOs only. I am going to have you before the full investigative board the next time they convene at Lupita's Mexican Restaurant and Cantina. You were not supposed to divulge details of deployment of the TACO BRS system (Beans-Rice-Salsa)... Oscar Zuniga Comandante, San Geronimo Wing, TACO San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 07:29:40 PM PST US
    From: "Nick Harris" <nharris25@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA
    Do I hear right that there will be a few PIETS flying to the Bahamas? If so when? That sounds very interesting. I suppose you would have to have a radio to do that? Nick Harris nharris25@yahoo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Barry Davis To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:44 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA Hope to see everyone at Sun & Fun next week. Some of the Big Piet Builders are flying down to Key West this weekend as a pre-runner to our flying the Piets to the Bahamas, then back to SNF for the week. Looks like we are having a Southern Piet Fly-in this fall. Looks like the 2nd Saturday/Sun in July. Airport will be Carrollton, Ga, CTJ. More info to follow after Sun n Fun. PLEASE give us some feedback on this. Barry Davis




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