---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/31/06: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:03 AM - Email address changes (Richard Carden) 2. 05:46 AM - TACO Security Breach (Michael D Cuy) 3. 06:01 AM - Re CRI (Steve) 4. 06:02 AM - Re: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA (Rick Holland) 5. 06:06 AM - Re: TACO Security Breach (Phillips, Jack) 6. 06:10 AM - Re: TACO Security Breach (harvey rule) 7. 06:12 AM - Re: TACO Security Breach (harvey rule) 8. 06:21 AM - Re: Elevator hinges (Ben Charvet) 9. 06:28 AM - Sun 'n' Fun update on FlyCorvair.com (Oscar Zuniga) 10. 06:43 AM - don't put your face next to the Gossport tube ! (Michael D Cuy) 11. 07:09 AM - Re: don't put your face next to the Gossport tube ! (John Hofmann) 12. 02:56 PM - cool site (walt evans) 13. 03:45 PM - Re: cool site (Rick Holland) 14. 10:35 PM - Re: TACO Security Breach (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:47 AM PST US From: Richard Carden Subject: Pietenpol-List: Email address changes --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Richard Carden Please make the following email address changes: Delete: flywrite@erols.com and flywrite@direcway.com Add; flywrite@hughes,com Thanks, Dick Carden ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:43 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: TACO Security Breach --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Dear Commandante Zuniga of the San Geronimo TACO Wing...... I confess to divulging sensitive information regarding the TACO thrust augmentor system to the general Pietenpol audience, but I stand firm in my conviction that I have not disclosed details of exactly how the Beans-Rice-Salsa combination is stored, activated, and exhausted without damage to surface paint, dopes, cables or turnbuckles. If you recall, we signed an agreement with Team Franklin before his passing at La Chita's in San Antonio at midnight over margaritas in May of 03. The napkin we designed this system on is still at the undisclosed location and only TACO President Senior Sterling Brooks has the code to access that paperwork. (or carried in the "football" by a member of his security force) Best regards, Mike C. in Ohio do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:05 AM PST US From: "Steve" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re CRI Hi everybody Just a note to say how much I enjoy this group. Have not started my building yet but building my reference file. "Cranium Rectal Inversion" I have decided to shorten that to CRI a great term, probably could apply to all of us at sometime or another. Anybody close to Boise ID. Best regards Steve G ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:16 AM PST US From: "Rick Holland" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA Ken You can build the Piet cockpit to fit you, its not like building a kit plane. I built my fueslage 2" wider and leaned the rear seat back 3" to make it more comfortable, also lowered the seat a bit (Barry told me that he leaned his seat back 4"). Highly recommend building a mock cockpit first out of scrap lumber as Tony B. recommends. You will also learn a lot about building the Piet fuselage that way while working with cheap lumber, (especially if you are a first time builder like I am). One good point Jack made concerning a wider fuselage is the cabane fittings on the wing center section, I built a 36" center section (per the Bill Rewey plans) so that really didn't matter much. Plus it gives you the space for up to 17 gallons of fuel in the center section (and a bit more wingspan). Rick H. On 3/30/06, Kenneth M. Heide wrote: > > I am too on the light side of heavy.....or there about. I am 6' 0" tall > and 265lbs (in good shape with a little anterior distal belly bulge) and > interested in hearing from others who may have widened their fuse. I had > planned on doing this modification to my plans so I could install my > recliner chair to fit my big rear end. However.....my neighbor said that I > had cranial rectal inversion.....? Maybe this is why I am so heavy? Go > figure..... > Any thoughts on the wider fuse? > > Ken H. > Fargo, ND > > *harvey rule * wrote: > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule > > > Now there ya go;I'm 200lbs myself and I always said I was the perfect > weight for someone 6'2" however I'm only 5'3" on a good day.Boy you talk > about a fat ass eh!I've only just sat in mine.I've yet to experience > flight in her.Should be interesting to see how long I'll last in there!I > don't think much can equal the pain of sitting in a Lazair for 2 1/2 > hours with all that noise and vibration but I used to do that on a > regular basis.Ya gotta love flyin!I'm the type of guy who goes out and > buys something without even tryin the dam thing on.When it comes to > airplanes ,I just get so excited! > > do not archive > > Jim Ash wrote: > > > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash > > > > I've sat in plenty. I need to know how well my seat seats in a Piet > before I put a bunch of time into building one for myself. I need to make > sure at 200lb and 6'2" that I won't hate myself after an hour of flying. > I've already collected some of the stuff, but haven't put any work into it > yet. > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > >From: harvey rule > > >Sent: Mar 30, 2006 1:02 PM > > >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > > > > > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule > > > > > >Now there is a dedicated dude.Of all the planes he could get a seat > > >in,he wants to sit in a Piet!Wow!I'm impressed! > > > > > >do not archive > > > > > >Jim Ash wrote: > > >> > > >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash > > >> Can I get a volunteer to let me sit in somebody's Piet at Sun 'n Fun? > > >> Last year I wanted to do this, but didn't see any Piets there. I'll > be > > >> working the metal forming workshop until I have to leave on Sunday > > >> afternoon. > > >> > > >> Jim Ash > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > From: Barry Davis > > >> Sent: Mar 30, 2006 11:14 AM > > >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > > >> > > >> Jack > > >> That date is not in stone as yet. After seeing your Piet at Brodhead, > > >> it is important that you can attend. Will keep you posted. Are you > > >> going to SNF? > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: Phillips, Jack > > >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:49 AM > > >> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > > >> > > >> I'd love to come to CTJ for the Sosuthen Pietenpol fly-in, > > >> but I will be returning from my honeymoon the second weekend > > >> in July. Any chance of changing that date? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Jack Phillips > > >> > > >> NX899JP > > >> > > >> Raleigh, NC > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf > > >> Of Barry Davis > > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:45 PM > > >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun & Fun.....YeHAAAA > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Hope to see everyone at Sun & Fun next week. > > >> > > >> Some of the Big Piet Builders are flying down to Key West > > >> this weekend as a pre-runner to our flying the Piets to the > > >> Bahamas, then back to SNF for the week. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Looks like we are havi ng a Southern Piet Fly-in this fall. > > > >> Looks like the 2nd Saturday/Sun in July. > > >> > > >> Airport will be Carrollton, Ga, CTJ. More info to follow > > >> after Sun n Fun. PLEASE give us some feedback on this. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Barry Davis > > >> > > >> Working together. For life.(sm) > > >> _________________________________________________ > > >> > > >> This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain > privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have > received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the > original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. > > >> > > >> Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - > Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: > www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------ > -- Rick Holland "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:02 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: TACO Security Breach From: "Phillips, Jack" --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" Well, Mike may not have divulged exactly how his thrust augmentor works, but I have a resonably good idea of the configuration. I think the smoke system is a decoy and actually has nothing to do with thrust augmentation. During that trip to Brodhead, there were a couple of takeoffs where Mike took off first and I departed in his, uh, wake. There was a distinctly sulfurous smell, leading me to believe he had installed a faulty catalytic converter in his exhaust system, but now I realize that it was probably associated with thrust augmentation. I thought I could hear a sound akin to fabric ripping as well, but could see no loose ends of tattered fabric on his airframe. His plane climbed rather sharply each time I heard this sound. I have tried to emulate this system on my own Pietenpol, but since I have cushioned leather seats (unlike the plain plywood slab Mike is perched upon), my efforts tend to get somewhat muffled and diluted, acheiving the smell, but not the thrust and noise. However, I haven't tried the BRS combination. Further testing may be required. Perhaps I'll fly down to Stanton's Barbeque on the South Carolina line this weekend and try a new combination of pulled pork, slaw and baked beans. I love research. Jack Phillips NX899JP, Icarus Plummet For Heaven's sake, DoNOT Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael D Cuy Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 8:46 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: TACO Security Breach --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Dear Commandante Zuniga of the San Geronimo TACO Wing...... I confess to divulging sensitive information regarding the TACO thrust augmentor system to the general Pietenpol audience, but I stand firm in my conviction that I have not disclosed details of exactly how the Beans-Rice-Salsa combination is stored, activated, and exhausted without damage to surface paint, dopes, cables or turnbuckles. If you recall, we signed an agreement with Team Franklin before his passing at La Chita's in San Antonio at midnight over margaritas in May of 03. The napkin we designed this system on is still at the undisclosed location and only TACO President Senior Sterling Brooks has the code to access that paperwork. (or carried in the "football" by a member of his security force) Best regards, Mike C. in Ohio do not archive Working together. For life.(sm) This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:20 AM PST US From: harvey rule Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: TACO Security Breach --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule I thought I was nuts! Michael D Cuy wrote: > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > > Dear Commandante Zuniga of the San Geronimo TACO Wing...... > > I confess to divulging sensitive information regarding the TACO thrust > augmentor system to the general Pietenpol audience, > > but I stand firm in my conviction that I have not disclosed details of > exactly how the Beans-Rice-Salsa combination is stored, activated, and > > exhausted without damage to surface paint, dopes, cables or > turnbuckles. If you recall, we signed an agreement with Team Franklin > > before his passing at La Chita's in San Antonio at midnight over margaritas > in May of 03. The napkin we designed this system on is still at the > > undisclosed location and only TACO President Senior Sterling Brooks has the > code to access that paperwork. (or carried in the "football" by > > a member of his security force) > > Best regards, > > Mike C. in Ohio > > do not archive > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:41 AM PST US From: harvey rule Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: TACO Security Breach --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule Aircraft Spruce has a new seat out;check it out for around 45$ "Phillips, Jack" wrote: > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" > > Well, Mike may not have divulged exactly how his thrust augmentor works, > but I have a resonably good idea of the configuration. I think the > smoke system is a decoy and actually has nothing to do with thrust > augmentation. > > During that trip to Brodhead, there were a couple of takeoffs where Mike > took off first and I departed in his, uh, wake. There was a distinctly > sulfurous smell, leading me to believe he had installed a faulty > catalytic converter in his exhaust system, but now I realize that it was > probably associated with thrust augmentation. I thought I could hear a > sound akin to fabric ripping as well, but could see no loose ends of > tattered fabric on his airframe. His plane climbed rather sharply each > time I heard this sound. > > I have tried to emulate this system on my own Pietenpol, but since I > have cushioned leather seats (unlike the plain plywood slab Mike is > perched upon), my efforts tend to get somewhat muffled and diluted, > acheiving the smell, but not the thrust and noise. However, I haven't > tried the BRS combination. Further testing may be required. Perhaps > I'll fly down to Stanton's Barbeque on the South Carolina line this > weekend and try a new combination of pulled pork, slaw and baked beans. > I love research. > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP, Icarus Plummet > > For Heaven's sake, DoNOT Archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael > D Cuy > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 8:46 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: TACO Security Breach > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > > > Dear Commandante Zuniga of the San Geronimo TACO Wing...... > > I confess to divulging sensitive information regarding the TACO thrust > augmentor system to the general Pietenpol audience, > > but I stand firm in my conviction that I have not disclosed details of > exactly how the Beans-Rice-Salsa combination is stored, activated, and > > exhausted without damage to surface paint, dopes, cables or > turnbuckles. If you recall, we signed an agreement with Team > Franklin > > before his passing at La Chita's in San Antonio at midnight over > margaritas > in May of 03. The napkin we designed this system on is still at the > > undisclosed location and only TACO President Senior Sterling Brooks has > the > code to access that paperwork. (or carried in the "football" by > > a member of his security force) > > Best regards, > > Mike C. in Ohio > > do not archive > > > > > > Working together. For life.(sm) > _________________________________________________ > > This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. > > Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:21 AM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Elevator hinges --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ben Charvet Thanks, Chris. This is the best explaination I've seen yet, and I've got it bookmarked for when I need it! Ben Charvet Mims, Fl Catdesign wrote: > I did it like this after I built the whole tail > structure. http://www.hal-pc.org/~hjkr/hingeslots.htm > > > Alignment was easier this way. Worked great and was easy. The > chisel did not work well enough. > > Chris Tracy > Sacramento, Ca ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:28:01 AM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun 'n' Fun update on FlyCorvair.com --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" William has posted a pre-SNF update on his website, at http://www.flycorvair.com/hangar.html That Wag-A-Bond sure looks nice! Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:43:34 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: don't put your face next to the Gossport tube ! --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Jack---that was HILARIOUS. Now you know why my passenger seat has that placard which tells people not to mistake the Gossport tube for a communication device !!!!!! Danger, danger !!! Mike C. do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:09:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: don't put your face next to the Gossport tube ! From: John Hofmann --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: John Hofmann When I was in A&P school we had a Beech 18 airframe for the students to abuse. It had a relief tube with a venturi on the bottom. I used to get great pleasure when I told students that was the ground communication device to the cockpit. I wish I had a camera for all the time I saw a mouth or lips on that venturi. -john- Do NOT archive > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > > > > Jack---that was HILARIOUS. > > Now you know why my passenger seat has that placard which tells people not > to mistake > > the Gossport tube for a communication device !!!!!! Danger, danger !!! > > Mike C. > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:56:44 PM PST US From: "walt evans" Subject: Pietenpol-List: cool site Check out this site,,, http://skyvector.com/ sectional charts on the web. If it's been already posted, sorry walt evans NX140DL ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:45:18 PM PST US From: "Rick Holland" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: cool site Really cool, they Google Mapped the sectionals. do not archive On 3/31/06, walt evans wrote: > > Check out this site,,, > > http://skyvector.com/ > sectional charts on the web. > If it's been already posted, sorry > walt evans > NX140DL > -- Rick Holland "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:35:38 PM PST US From: Clif Dawson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: TACO Security Breach --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson No, Harvey. He's just full of beans. Clif PS- AND he may soon want a reference to a REALLY good Colorectal surgeon! PS again- Those funny brown tubes I'm sure you noticed falling from the plane were the spent JATO's. Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: TACO Security Breach > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule > > I thought I was nuts! > > Michael D Cuy wrote: >> >> Dear Commandante Zuniga of the San Geronimo TACO Wing...... >> >> I confess to divulging sensitive information regarding the TACO thrust >> augmentor system to the general Pietenpol audience,