Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 04:12 AM - Re: Speedos front and rear? (walt evans)
2. 06:55 AM - Re: Speedos front and rear? (Jeff Boatright)
3. 10:10 AM - tools revisted (panhandler1956)
4. 10:15 AM - Re: cool site (Galen Hutcheson)
5. 10:28 AM - Re: tools revisted (walt evans)
6. 11:26 AM - Re: tools revisted (Galen Hutcheson)
7. 11:52 AM - Re: tools revisted (gbowen@ptialaska.net)
8. 01:55 PM - Re: tools revisted (gcardinal)
9. 02:32 PM - Re: tools revisted (panhandler1956)
10. 04:24 PM - Re: tools revisted (Mark Blackwell)
11. 04:48 PM - Re: tools revisted (MICHAEL SILVIUS)
12. 06:33 PM - Re: tools revisted (Glenn Thomas)
13. 06:57 PM - Re: tools revisted (panhandler1956)
14. 11:41 PM - Re: Re: tools revisted (Clif Dawson)
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Speedos front and rear? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
Jeff,
No, not at all
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Boatright" <jboatri@emory.edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Speedos front and rear?
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
>
> Walt,
>
> Thanks for the info. Do you think that using tygon versus solid copper
> will make a difference?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
>
>
>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
>>
>>Jeff,
>>No, the thing that works the airspeed indicators is only static pressure,
>>not like there is air flowing. To split the tubing and go to both is fine.
>>My two units read slightly different because,,,
>>1. rear one's static port goes to a static fitting.
>>2. front one's static port goes only to the front cowling (no fitting on
>>it)
>>3. Calibration is off on one or both. Even tho the rear one seems to go
>>along true with GPS calculations, and the front reads about 4 MPH slow
>>walt evans
>>NX140DL
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Boatright" <jboatri@emory.edu>
>>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 7:40 PM
>>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Speedos front and rear?
>
>
> --
> Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor
> Department of Ophthalmology
> Emory University School of Medicine
> Atlanta, GA 30322
> Editor-in-Chief
> Molecular Vision
> http://www.molvis.org/
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
>
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Speedos front and rear? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
Thanks again, Walt. If the weather cooperates today, I'll be able to
test it all.
Jeff
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
>
>Jeff,
>No, not at all
>walt evans
>NX140DL
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Boatright" <jboatri@emory.edu>
>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 9:55 PM
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Speedos front and rear?
>
>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
>>
>>Walt,
>>
>>Thanks for the info. Do you think that using tygon versus solid
>>copper will make a difference?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Jeff
>>
--
Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
Atlanta, GA 30322
Editor-in-Chief
Molecular Vision
http://www.molvis.org/
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
All,
As I make preparations to start my Pietenpol in the next month or so, I find myself
wondering what tools would be useful. I did a search of the archives and
the answer is very broad and since most of those posts are 5 years or older, I
was wondering if anyone has any recent or updated advice on what would be needed
and what would be desirable?
I am already planning to get a wood cutting bandsaw, a new drill press (mine is
worn out), router, and miter saw. I currently have a henrob torch setup, metal
cutting band saw, sanders, visers, hand tools, clamps, etc.
Specifically, some of the stumping points on the big ticket items are;
Planer or no planer?
Tablesaw or no tablesaw?
Any advice is appreciated, big ticket item or not!
Thanks in advance,
--------
Brent O.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26132#26132
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Hey Gang,
Here is another cool site: www.airdromeaeroplanes.com
They offer costom built wire wheels, with wider hubs
than motorcycle hubs, for a reasonable price. The
site also has some great flying videos too. Enjoy.
Doc (H)
--- walt evans <waltdak@verizon.net> wrote:
> Check out this site,,,
>
> http://skyvector.com/
>
> sectional charts on the web.
> If it's been already posted, sorry
> walt evans
> NX140DL
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: tools revisted |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
Brent,
To me the most important was Wood band saw, and a drill press, and a torch
set .
I bought a 10" Delta band saw, and drill press from home depot. And sprung
for an oxy/ascet. set from the local weld supply.
All the rest was gravy.
Never needed a planer.
Never used a tablesaw on the plane. (Only used to cut plywood for things
like engine mount)
walt evans
NX140DL
----- Original Message -----
From: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 1:08 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: tools revisted
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "panhandler1956"
> <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
>
> All,
> As I make preparations to start my Pietenpol in the next month or so, I
> find myself wondering what tools would be useful. I did a search of the
> archives and the answer is very broad and since most of those posts are 5
> years or older, I was wondering if anyone has any recent or updated advice
> on what would be needed and what would be desirable?
>
> I am already planning to get a wood cutting bandsaw, a new drill press
> (mine is worn out), router, and miter saw. I currently have a henrob torch
> setup, metal cutting band saw, sanders, visers, hand tools, clamps, etc.
>
> Specifically, some of the stumping points on the big ticket items are;
> Planer or no planer?
> Tablesaw or no tablesaw?
>
> Any advice is appreciated, big ticket item or not!
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --------
> Brent O.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26132#26132
>
>
>
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: tools revisted |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Galen Hutcheson <wacopitts@yahoo.com>
Hi Brent,
I cut my own lumber to make the longerones, capstrips
etc., so a table saw was very helpful. A power miter
saw is almost a must. A welding table (homebuilt is
fine) is helpful. Wood shaping tools such as rasps
etc. is also helpful as is a 4 inch angle sander. I
did not need a planner. Some would probably disagree,
and it would probably be helpful from time to time,
but my workshop was getting too cluttered the was it
was. A combo disc and belt sander is very helpful.
Besides a floor bandsaw, I have a small table-top
bandsaw which made small cuts quick and simple. A
metal chop saw is helpful as well as a table grinder.
When constructing (gluing) your longerones and ribs, I
heated up some wax in a can and painted the areas on
my jugs that were going to be exposed to the glue
joints. This prevented the glue from sticking to the
jigs and was easier to use than wax paper or
cellophane. A very thin coat is all you need. Hope
this helps.
Doc (H)
--- panhandler1956 <bowens2@insight.rr.com> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by:
> "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
>
> All,
> As I make preparations to start my Pietenpol in the
> next month or so, I find myself wondering what tools
> would be useful. I did a search of the archives and
> the answer is very broad and since most of those
> posts are 5 years or older, I was wondering if
> anyone has any recent or updated advice on what
> would be needed and what would be desirable?
>
> I am already planning to get a wood cutting bandsaw,
> a new drill press (mine is worn out), router, and
> miter saw. I currently have a henrob torch setup,
> metal cutting band saw, sanders, visers, hand tools,
> clamps, etc.
>
> Specifically, some of the stumping points on the big
> ticket items are;
> Planer or no planer?
> Tablesaw or no tablesaw?
>
> Any advice is appreciated, big ticket item or not!
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --------
> Brent O.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
>
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26132#26132
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>
>
> Admin.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gbowen@ptialaska.net" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
To quote Tim on Tool Time-----it's impossible to have too few power tools
and impossible to have tools too underpowered. Use whatever flimsy excuse
you can to add to your useless and useful tool collection, if your wifey
understands the "need" to build a Piete then she'll understand the need for
quality plentiful tools. At least in the beginning of the project, lie if
necessary--- "Dear, you cannot do a proper job with the wrong tool, besides
they'll be useful around the house"
Gordon Bowen
Original Message:
-----------------
From: panhandler1956 bowens2@insight.rr.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: tools revisted
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "panhandler1956"
<bowens2@insight.rr.com>
All,
As I make preparations to start my Pietenpol in the next month or so, I
find myself wondering what tools would be useful. I did a search of the
archives and the answer is very broad and since most of those posts are 5
years or older, I was wondering if anyone has any recent or updated advice
on what would be needed and what would be desirable?
I am already planning to get a wood cutting bandsaw, a new drill press
(mine is worn out), router, and miter saw. I currently have a henrob torch
setup, metal cutting band saw, sanders, visers, hand tools, clamps, etc.
Specifically, some of the stumping points on the big ticket items are;
Planer or no planer?
Tablesaw or no tablesaw?
Any advice is appreciated, big ticket item or not!
Thanks in advance,
--------
Brent O.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26132#26132
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: tools revisted |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gcardinal" <gcardinal@mn.rr.com>
1. 4" angle grinder with thin cut-off wheels.
2. Belt sander.
3. Bench grinder.
4. Plywood and wood scraps for making jigs.
5. Steel plate and bars for making bending forms.
6. Hydraulic press.
7. Drill press
8. Miter saw
Owning these is LESS important than having good access to them.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 12:08 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: tools revisted
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "panhandler1956"
> <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
>
> All,
> As I make preparations to start my Pietenpol in the next month or so, I
> find myself wondering what tools would be useful. I did a search of the
> archives and the answer is very broad and since most of those posts are 5
> years or older, I was wondering if anyone has any recent or updated advice
> on what would be needed and what would be desirable?
>
> I am already planning to get a wood cutting bandsaw, a new drill press
> (mine is worn out), router, and miter saw. I currently have a henrob torch
> setup, metal cutting band saw, sanders, visers, hand tools, clamps, etc.
>
> Specifically, some of the stumping points on the big ticket items are;
> Planer or no planer?
> Tablesaw or no tablesaw?
>
> Any advice is appreciated, big ticket item or not!
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --------
> Brent O.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26132#26132
>
>
>
Message 9
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: tools revisted |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
Gordon,
I agree with your line of thought, why just today I was putting a tile floor in
our bathroom (browny points in the bank) and I mentioned to my wife that we really
"need" a nice miter saw to install new quarter-round properly - she didn't
bite, but I'll keep trying.
gbowen(at)ptialaska.net wrote:
> Use whatever flimsy excuse
> you can to add to your useless and useful tool collection, if your wifey
> understands the "need" to build a Piete then she'll understand the need for
> quality plentiful tools. At least in the beginning of the project, lie if
> necessary--- "Dear, you cannot do a proper job with the wrong tool, besides
> they'll be useful around the house"
> Gordon Bowen
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: panhandler1956 bowens2@insight.rr.com
> Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 10:08:21 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: tools revisted
>
>
>
>
>
> All,
> As I make preparations to start my Pietenpol in the next month or so, I
> find myself wondering what tools would be useful. I did a search of the
> archives and the answer is very broad and since most of those posts are 5
> years or older, I was wondering if anyone has any recent or updated advice
> on what would be needed and what would be desirable?
>
> I am already planning to get a wood cutting bandsaw, a new drill press
> (mine is worn out), router, and miter saw. I currently have a henrob torch
> setup, metal cutting band saw, sanders, visers, hand tools, clamps, etc.
>
> Specifically, some of the stumping points on the big ticket items are;
> Planer or no planer?
> Tablesaw or no tablesaw?
>
> Any advice is appreciated, big ticket item or not!
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --------
> Brent O.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26132#26132
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--------
Brent O.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26161#26161
Message 10
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: tools revisted |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Mark Blackwell" <markb1958@verizon.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 2:51 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: tools revisted
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gbowen@ptialaska.net"
> <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
>
> To quote Tim on Tool Time-----it's impossible to have too few power tools
> and impossible to have tools too underpowered. Use whatever flimsy excuse
> you can to add to your useless and useful tool collection, if your wifey
> understands the "need" to build a Piete then she'll understand the need
> for
> quality plentiful tools. At least in the beginning of the project, lie if
> necessary--- "Dear, you cannot do a proper job with the wrong tool,
> besides
> they'll be useful around the house"
> Gordon Bowen
Gordon you have it backwards. With this nice new tool dear, I can redo that
kitchen cabinet you have wanted fixed for a long time and forget to mention
that it would work well on the Piet too. Kitchens, bathrooms, bedrooms and
for the welder if you really want to push it plumbing. I hate plumbing so I
might just go ahead and cash in either a few brownie points when it comes to
that or just take the heat and not worry about it. After all I have been
married long enough that there are not too many new ways to make her mad at
me anymore. grin
Message 11
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: tools revisted |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "MICHAEL SILVIUS" <M.Silvius@worldnet.att.net>
warning this should go under the heading of tool porn.
www.lie-nielsen.com
www.japanwoodworker.com
www.levalley.com
order the catalogs, and drool.
:-)
michael silvius
in sacrborough, maine
Message 12
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: tools revisted |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@charter.net>
Hi,
So far I've just worked on ribs but found the following tools good for the
stated reasons.
Tablesaw - I bought precut wood but you have to make a rib jig and
eventually a table to build the larger parts on. Based on how this project
seems to be unfolding, half the building is building tools, jigs, etc. and a
tablesaw is really handy for that. You can find them cheap too. I'm not
suggesting you get a cheap tablesaw, watch classifieds, ebay and those kinds
of resources. I picked up an older tablesaw with a milled steel table and a
powerful motor for 25 bucks. It's very accurate and cuts through oak like
butter (..no, not building an oak Piet)
Router table. My plan when I build ribs is to use a flush laminate trimmer
bit in my router to trim off the overhanging gussets. With a table it's a
piece of cake. So if you get a router, also get or build a router table.
The other posts cover everything pretty well.
----- Original Message -----
From: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 1:08 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: tools revisted
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "panhandler1956"
<bowens2@insight.rr.com>
>
> All,
> As I make preparations to start my Pietenpol in the next month or so, I
find myself wondering what tools would be useful. I did a search of the
archives and the answer is very broad and since most of those posts are 5
years or older, I was wondering if anyone has any recent or updated advice
on what would be needed and what would be desirable?
>
> I am already planning to get a wood cutting bandsaw, a new drill press
(mine is worn out), router, and miter saw. I currently have a henrob torch
setup, metal cutting band saw, sanders, visers, hand tools, clamps, etc.
>
> Specifically, some of the stumping points on the big ticket items are;
> Planer or no planer?
> Tablesaw or no tablesaw?
>
> Any advice is appreciated, big ticket item or not!
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --------
> Brent O.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26132#26132
>
>
Message 13
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: tools revisted |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "panhandler1956" <bowens2@insight.rr.com>
M.Silvius(at)worldnet.att wrote:
> warning this should go under the heading of tool porn.
>
> www.lie-nielsen.com
> www.japanwoodworker.com
> www.levalley.com
>
> order the catalogs, and drool.
>
> :-)
> michael silvius
> in sacrborough, maine
Michael,
I ordered the catalogs, but the last link was for a GMC dealer. I do want a new
truck, but I'll have to wait till the Piet is built and I'm partial to Fords!
:)
Thanks,
--------
Brent O.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=26194#26194
Message 14
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: tools revisted |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
What you want is;
http://www.leevalley.com/home.aspx
The little plane below sees more use in my shop than
just about anything else. I have three of them. One set
course, one fine and the other I cut the front off to
make a bullnose plane.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=32700&cat=1,41182
For sharpening nothing beats Japanese water stones.
I've used a LOT of stones over the past 60+ years
and I have no desire to go back to oil stones!
I use an 800, 1200 and 8000 for my anal retentive
sharpening. One might get away with the 800 and
1200 but for softwood, the sharper the better!
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=43071&cat=1,43072
If you're limited for shop space a radial arm saw
might be a better alternative to a tablesaw. Mine is
built into a special table 8' long mounted on 3"
locking castors.
Funny thing. I use that table for almost everything
except when I need the vises on the "official"
workbench. That bench is set to "cabinet making"
hieght and the saw table is higher.
Ah, tools, what an exquisite addiction!!! :-)
Clif
>
> M.Silvius(at)worldnet.att wrote:
>> warning this should go under the heading of tool porn.
>>
>> www.lie-nielsen.com
>> www.japanwoodworker.com
>> www.levalley.com
>>
>> order the catalogs, and drool.
>>
>> :-)
>> michael silvius
>> in sacrborough, maine
>
> Michael,
> I ordered the catalogs, but the last link was for a GMC dealer. I do want
> a new truck, but I'll have to wait till the Piet is built and I'm partial
> to Fords! :)
> Thanks,
>
> --------
> Brent O.
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|