---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/11/06: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:39 AM - Re: Flying ATL to Brodhead: grass strips? (Phillips, Jack) 2. 05:45 AM - Re: Pietenpol looking kit plane (Hans Vander Voort) 3. 06:37 AM - Re: Stress testing Corvair motor mounts? (Rick Holland) 4. 09:27 AM - Re: off subject - experimental ladder plane (Gary Gower) 5. 11:14 AM - Stromberg Carb (Oscar Zuniga) 6. 01:16 PM - Re: Stress testing Corvair motor mounts? (Ben Charvet) 7. 02:52 PM - Re: Stress testing Corvair motor mounts? (Rcaprd@aol.com) 8. 03:08 PM - Re: Flying ATL to Brodhead: grass strips? (Dennis Engelkenjohn) 9. 03:28 PM - Re: Flying ATL to Brodhead: grass strips? (Jeff Boatright) 10. 05:21 PM - Sources Stock Tail wheel Spring? (Catdesign) 11. 06:28 PM - Sun 'N' Fun update on Corvair website (Oscar Zuniga) 12. 06:28 PM - invitation (Dick Navratil) 13. 06:56 PM - Re: Sources Stock Tail wheel Spring? (Mike Green) 14. 11:08 PM - Mike Cuy's Wheels (Catdesign) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:39:16 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Flying ATL to Brodhead: grass strips? From: "Phillips, Jack" --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" Try a sectional chart. Seriously, that's the easiest way I know. Look at a sectional, pick a grass strip that's close to your route, then look it up on the AOPA website Airport Directory to see if they have fuel. Finding grass strips is easy. Finding grass strips with public fuel is much more difficult. Where are you coming from, Jeff? Jack Phillips Hoping to fly "Icarus Plummet" this evening after work -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Boatright Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 11:08 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying ATL to Brodhead: grass strips? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright I'm pondering flying the Piet up to Brodhead this summer. I prefer to land at grass strips. Do you guys know if there are flight planning tools that allow searching for waypoints based on runway surface? Thanks, Jeff Working together. For life.(sm) This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:38 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol looking kit plane From: Hans Vander Voort --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Hans Vander Voort Look at those performance numbers 132 Vne 106 Cruise 45 Vs1 Max ceiling 12000 ft Not low and slow. No pictures either ( are those numbers real ?) I doubt they build one themselves Some pictures on the low camper, click to enlarge (and color) nice one piece three panel wind screens. Hans ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:17 AM PST US From: "Rick Holland" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stress testing Corvair motor mounts? Good point, since most all aircraft/epoxy is flexible by design it doesn't sound like it would be the best to use. What types of paint are hard and brittle? On 4/10/06, Rcaprd@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 4/10/2006 8:07:03 AM Central Standard Time, > hvandervoo@aol.com writes: > > Keep in mind that engine vibration can be much more harmful than a plain > static load. > Engine mount should be inspected every change you get, I inspect it every > time I have the cowling off. > > Another tip, paint the motor mount white, if a welding crack develops it > will show better. > > Good advise here. I have a big magnifying glass that use to inspect my > white engine mount, whenever I have the cowl off. Keep in mind, the white > paint should be a very HARD Non-Flexible paint, when cured. If it is a > flexible paint, it will streach over a crack, and the crack will never show > up. If you have ever seen paint in the welded area of crane type equipment > that has required periodic inspection (sometimes it is silver), it is called > 'Crack Paint'. > > Chuck G. > NX770CG > -- Rick Holland "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:27:14 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off subject - experimental ladder plane Hi Rick, Yes, you are partially right, not small (I am 6 ft tall and have space to spare for my legs) but thin. Pilot has to get betwen the ladder spars (cut off two steps). When I started building it, the first part to build (was already built:-) was the fuselage, just messure and cut the steps off to make the seat. At 72 kgs ( about 160 lbs) that time, I could barely fit, so I beguin loosing weight during the building process, until I got at 65 kgs (145) and fit perfect even with a winter jacket, also I feel lot better... Sure not an airplane for Corona drinkers :-) There is a variant of this airplane that uses two ladders as fuselage sides, that could be made to fit a bigger pilot... but not to heavy, remember is in the ultralight category and probably performance could suffer... Saludos Gary Gower Rick Holland wrote: They have one in a hanger in Broadhead. You have to be a fairly small person to fit in one from what I heard. http://www.fly5k.org/MEM/GaryPouchel/GaryGower1.htm On 4/5/06, tmbrant1@netzero.com wrote: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: " tmbrant1@netzero.com" Anyone ever see a website devoted to an experimental airplane constructed out of extension ladders? I'm not making this up! I can't seem to find the site any more. ================================================= http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List ========================= - NEW MATRONICS========================= - nbsp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ================================================ -- Rick Holland "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:14:44 AM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stromberg Carb --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" Ken asked- >Can anyone tell me if I should jet and resize the venturi according to >the engine displacement? I was informed to jet the carb and replace >the venturi for the engine HP when rebuilding the carb. Well, you can check page 15 of the following .pdf file to see how the jetting and venturi on that carb were done on the small Continentals: http://www.aeronca.com/ServiceLetters/cont_m47_16.pdf Note that the larger venturi was used on the larger engines. The C-85 is a 188 cu. in. engine rated at a nominal 85 HP. Also, from William's FlyCorvair Q&A page: "In the interest of more power, I would suggest the larger 1 3/8" Stromberg venturi. The smaller one is effectively limited to 85 or 90hp on a Corvair." I don't believe the jetting will change. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:16:18 PM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stress testing Corvair motor mounts? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ben Charvet I used a 2 part automotive type paint that hardens enough that you can color sand it and buff it out if you want. Hopefully that is hard enough. I Ben Rick Holland wrote: > Good point, since most all aircraft/epoxy is flexible by design it > doesn't sound like it would be the best to use. What types of paint > are hard and brittle? > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:52:59 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stress testing Corvair motor mounts? In a message dated 4/11/2006 3:17:55 PM Central Standard Time, bcharvet@bellsouth.net writes: I used a 2 part automotive type paint that hardens enough that you can color sand it and buff it out if you want. Hopefully that is hard enough. I I believe Ben is correct, in that automotive epoxy paint is a Hard paint. Wouldn't be a good choice for a fabric airplane, unless a flex agent is used with it. I think the best way is to experiment with the paint you are planning on using, by painting a piece of sheet metal, and when it is cured, bend it and see if the paint cracks. Maybe someone else has done this research, or knows what type paint they use on the welds of crane equipment. (crack paint) Chuck G. Home Pietenpol NX770CG ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:08:20 PM PST US From: "Dennis Engelkenjohn" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flying ATL to Brodhead: grass strips? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dennis Engelkenjohn" If you are coming up from the south of Missouri, Columbia, Ill. has a long grass strip and av gas. It is just southeast of St.Louis, Mo. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Boatright" Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 10:08 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying ATL to Brodhead: grass strips? > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright > > > I'm pondering flying the Piet up to Brodhead this summer. I prefer to > land at grass strips. Do you guys know if there are flight planning > tools that allow searching for waypoints based on runway surface? > > Thanks, > > Jeff > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:28:01 PM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flying ATL to Brodhead: grass strips? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright Thanks, Dennis. These all look like pretty interesting places! >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dennis Engelkenjohn" > > >If you are coming up from the south of Missouri, Columbia, Ill. has a long >grass strip and av gas. It is just southeast of St.Louis, Mo. >Dennis >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jeff Boatright" >To: >Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 10:08 PM >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying ATL to Brodhead: grass strips? > > >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright >> >> >> I'm pondering flying the Piet up to Brodhead this summer. I prefer to >> land at grass strips. Do you guys know if there are flight planning >> tools that allow searching for waypoints based on runway surface? >> >> Thanks, >> > > Jeff -- Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Ophthalmology Emory University School of Medicine Atlanta, GA 30322 Editor-in-Chief Molecular Vision http://www.molvis.org/ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:21:01 PM PST US From: "Catdesign" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sources Stock Tail wheel Spring? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesign" Anyone buy a tail wheel spring for the A-arm style tail wheel lately? I know the John Deer part number but I was wondering if there were any other options. Anyone know what the Price tail wheel plans call for? Chris Tracy Sacramento, Ca ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:28:29 PM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sun 'N' Fun update on Corvair website --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" William Wynne has posted a post-SNF update on his website, at http://www.flycorvair.com/hangar.html The end of the update is a tribute to Larry Koutz. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:28:56 PM PST US From: "Dick Navratil" Subject: Pietenpol-List: invitation Next Wed eve, April 19, I will be hosting EAA Chapter 25 monthly meeting at my hangar at Crystal Airport (MIC), in the Minneapolis, MN. area. Any and all are invited to attend. The BBQ will be on after about 6:00 pm, meeting will start at 7:00. Weather permitting, we can fire up the Rotec radial on my new project which ran for the first time today. It runs pretty smooth. I am finishing up annual on NX2RN and that one should be back together by then also. Anyone needing directions contact me off list. Dick N. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:56:08 PM PST US From: "Mike Green" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sources Stock Tail wheel Spring? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Mike Green" Chris, I had one made by a spring maker a few months ago. Only cost $35 (That's Ausie money-not real money) so in the States I'm guessing 15 to 20 bucks. Placed the order over the phone and had it in three days! Mike Green Romsey Victoria AUSTRALIA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catdesign" Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:19 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sources Stock Tail wheel Spring? > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesign" > > > Anyone buy a tail wheel spring for the A-arm style tail wheel lately? I > know the John Deer part number but I was wondering if there were any other > options. Anyone know what the Price tail wheel plans call for? > > Chris Tracy > Sacramento, Ca > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:08:43 PM PST US From: "Catdesign" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy's Wheels --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesign" Mike I have the money to finally buy my wheels. I noticed in the archives you said your rims are 3.5" inches wide by 19" inches. The Henderson plans use a 1.85" by 21". Are your rims really 3.5 inches wide? I like the idea of the wider tires to give more cushion. Thanks Chris Tracy Sacramento, Ca