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1. 12:33 AM - Re: Model A radiator location (Clif Dawson)
2. 04:38 AM - Re: Wing Rib Jig (Phillips, Jack)
3. 05:17 AM - Re: Model A radiator location (FTLovley@aol.com)
4. 05:44 AM - Amazing crosswind landings vid (walt evans)
5. 06:40 AM - stones and radiators (Michael D Cuy)
6. 07:19 AM - Wing rib jig (Dan Loegering)
7. 07:21 AM - Re: Model A radiator location (Bill Church)
8. 07:48 AM - Re: Wing rib jig (Isablcorky@aol.com)
9. 08:07 AM - Re: doug fir (jimboyer@hughes.net)
10. 08:26 AM - another video (doh!) (Ben Williams)
11. 08:29 AM - informational video about medicals... (Ben Williams)
12. 09:24 AM - Re: another video (doh!) (harvey rule)
13. 10:47 AM - Scott Crossfield plane missing (Michael D Cuy)
14. 10:53 AM - Re: Scott Crossfield plane missing (Phillips, Jack)
15. 12:18 PM - Here's the rib comparison (Brown Gravy)
16. 12:20 PM - Re: another video (doh!) (Ken)
17. 01:01 PM - Re: Here's the rib comparison (Steve)
18. 01:11 PM - Re: Here's the rib comparison (Brown Gravy)
19. 01:16 PM - Re: Re: Scott Crossfield plane missing (GCARDINAL@mn.rr.com)
20. 01:18 PM - Re: Here's the rib comparison (Brown Gravy)
21. 02:13 PM - Re: Re: Here's the rib comparison (Bill Church)
22. 02:42 PM - Re: Here's the rib comparison (Brown Gravy)
23. 04:24 PM - Re: Wing Rib Jig (plncrzy)
24. 04:57 PM - Re: Amazing crosswind landings vid (Kenneth M. Heide)
25. 05:35 PM - Re: Wing Rib Jig (Brown Gravy)
26. 09:36 PM - Re: Wing Rib Jig (Glenn Thomas)
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| Subject: | Re: Model A radiator location |
Not in my FGM. The pics and drawings show the same
radiator as the Piet. There is a pic or two showing an
experimental under-engine settup but Bernard rejected
it. I'm not sure where I've seen them though.
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Rambo
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A radiator location
Sure they have, the sky scout has it mounted on the lower cowl exactly as you
suggest.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brown Gravy
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:52 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model A radiator location
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Brown Gravy" <mjs.browngravy@yahoo.com>
Has anyone tried an alternate location for the radiator on Model A powered
Piets? Is it possible to locate it below the engine at an angle that follows the
original cowling design?
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
Hi Bryan,
I would recommend that you build your own rib jig, and keep it after
you've finished building ribs. Some day you may have to repair a
damaged rib and it sure does help to have the original jig. For that
reason I doubt many builders would part with their jigs. I've kept all
the major tooling that I had to make to build mine, although I've loaned
my engine mount jig to another Piet builder. I know where it is, and if
I need it I can get it back from him.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of plncrzy
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:29 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Rib Jig
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "plncrzy" <plncrzy3@netscape.net>
Hi, I am new to this list and this is my first post. I will be starting
my Pietenpol project soon and as I don't want to re-invent the wheel
again, I was wondering if anyone of you previous builders had a wing rib
jig that you were done with and would be willing to sell. Any help would
be greatly appreciated. Thanks Bryan
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| Subject: | Re: Model A radiator location |
The radiator that Bernard mounted under the engine was used only on the Model
A powered Scout...it worked really well... I restored the airplane about 40
years ago and it is still flying today. I doubt that it could be made to work
on an Air Camper, because the firewall is vertical...on the Model A Scout, the
firewall slanted back, allowing the cooling air from the radiator to travel
up and back to exit through louvers on the top cowl ahead of the instrument
panel. Bernard didn't "reject" the radiator installation...he just didn't build
any more single place airplanes.
Forrest Lovley
Jordan MN
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| Subject: | Amazing crosswind landings vid |
Go to this site and download this vid. Big jets landing in some severe crosswinds.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3D791011
It's AMAZING!
walt evans
NX140DL
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| Subject: | stones and radiators |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
I would think that anyone installing a lower cowl radiator on a Piet might
be more prone to encounter pebble and stone
damage (leaks) picked up by the prop on hard surface runways or gravel areas.
Mike C.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dan Loegering" <danl@odayequipment.com>
Bryan,
As a "low time" builder myself, I'll echo the other comments that have already
been posted. Just think of building the jig as practice for building the actual
part - if you don't get the jig just right, you can easily pull off the offending
block and reposition it. And you don't have to throw out any true airplane
parts! Or you could partner up with one or two more like minded individuals
in your area and convince them that they need to build an airplane also.
Then you just share the jigs - we are soon to have three projects at various stages
of construction in the upper mid-west (Fargo, ND area). They will all be
built off the same set of jigs - so far two sets of ribs are done, two horizontal
stabilizers, 1.5 sets of elevators, 1 vertical stab, and I am working on
the rudder jig now.
I have so far built the jigs and my parts, then I pass the jig on to the next builder
(Ken Heide) along with my notes on how the parts went together. This gives
him the advantage of being able to look at a completed part, and I can also
make suggestions or point out where the jig didn't work exactly right (What
do you mean the aluminum angle blocks aren't a 90 Deg. angle?). The third builder
hasn't started yet, but he has committed to ordering rib wood during our
next purchase. This also saves on shipping costs...
Another thing to think about - Building the jig is a very small percentage of time
when compared to the total construction time. Currently I have about 140
hours into the project - rib set +2 is complete, horizontal stab, vertical stab,
and elevators are done. Of that 140 hours, only about 12 were spent in building
the five jigs.
Lots of ways to build a jig - if you are just building one plane, most of the jigs
can simply be a series of nails driven into the top of your building table.
If you want to keep all of your jigs or share them with another builder, use
3/4" ply, or another similar material - I am using 5/8" laminated shelf boards
for my jigs, and then just a series of wood blocks screwed down or 3/4" aluminum
angle blocks screwed to the shelf (had to go back and shim all of these
to get the angle correct though!).
To wrap up - just jump in and start making parts! And have fun...
Dan Loegering
Fargo, ND
Time: 07:32:15 PM PST US
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Rib Jig
From: "plncrzy" <plncrzy3@netscape.net>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "plncrzy" <plncrzy3@netscape.net>
Hi, I am new to this list and this is my first post. I will be starting my Pietenpol
project soon and as I don't want to re-invent the wheel again, I was wondering
if anyone of you previous builders had a wing rib jig that you were done
with and would be willing to sell. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Bryan
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=29561#29561
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| Subject: | Model A radiator location |
I think this shows an original photo of that plane (N12941) - no visible
rad in the picture.
http://www.pressenter.com/~apietenp/My_Homepage_Files/Page20.html
Bill C.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
FTLovley@aol.com
Sent: April 20, 2006 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A radiator location
The radiator that Bernard mounted under the engine was used only on the
Model A powered Scout...it worked really well... I restored the airplane
about 40 years ago and it is still flying today. I doubt that it could
be made to work on an Air Camper, because the firewall is vertical...on
the Model A Scout, the firewall slanted back, allowing the cooling air
from the radiator to travel up and back to exit through louvers on the
top cowl ahead of the instrument panel. Bernard didn't "reject" the
radiator installation...he just didn't build any more single place
airplanes.
Forrest Lovley
Jordan MN
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| Subject: | Re: Wing rib jig |
A thought came to my ole mind the other night as I lay awake Piet dreaming.
I doubt this has ever happened to you!!!!
IF I were to ever build another rib jig I would use 3/4 plywood at least 18
in X 72 in. Use scrap
capstrip nailed as a guide for your router. With a 1/4 in bit, rout your cap
strip positions about 3/8 in deep. Talk about accuracy and uniformity. I
think it would be better than those surface cams and blocks.
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Hi Michael,
I haven't got a way to measure the weight yet but as soon as the rains stop here
in Northern Dampifornia I can get it out of the garage and use a bathroom scale.
I'll let you know, maybe this weekend its supposed to be nice for a change.
Jim
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| Subject: | another video (doh!) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ben Williams <benw@pdi.com>
http://www.break.com/movies/planebeach.html
Ben
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| Subject: | informational video about medicals... |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ben Williams <benw@pdi.com>
http://www.break.com/movies/familyguydoc.html
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| Subject: | Re: another video (doh!) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
All he or she had to do was cut the throttle to nothing and that plane
would have come to a stop in the water and no damage would have
occured.As I see it ;it was totalled by the time it came to a stop on
the beach and they were lucky they didn't kill someone including
themselves.Then again maybe the pilot was wishing he were dead after
doing this!
Ben Williams wrote:
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> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ben Williams <benw@pdi.com>
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> http://www.break.com/movies/planebeach.html
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| Subject: | Scott Crossfield plane missing |
ugh...my wife just forwarded this to me.
FYI.
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ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Authorities were searching early Thursday for a
small plane registered to a famed test pilot that vanished from radar on
Wednesday on a flight from Prattville, Alabama, to Manassas, Virginia.
Air traffic control last had contact with the plane registered to test
pilot Scott Crossfield about 11 a.m. Wednesday when it was about 10 miles
southwest of Ellijay, Georgia, about 60 miles north of Atlanta, an FAA
spokeswoman told CNN.
The spokeswoman said she could not confirm who was aboard the single engine
plane.
Crossfield, 84, was the first man to fly the X-15 rocket-powered jet and
made aeronautical history in 1953 by becoming the first pilot to fly faster
than Mach 2 (twice the speed of sound).
While at NACA -- the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics, the
predecessor for NASA -- Crossfield was the test pilot for several research
aircraft and won dozens of awards and honors for his pioneering work. He
also served as an executive for Eastern Airlines and Hawker Siddley
Aviation, according to his NASA biography.
When he retired in 1983, he received the NASA Distinguished Public Service
Medal, the biography noted.
Crossfield's test pilot character was immortalized in the book by Tom
Wolfe, "The Right Stuff," and portrayed by actor Scott Wilson in the movie
of the same name.
Capt. Paige Joyner of the Civil Air Patrol also would not confirm the
identity of the pilot but said the family had reported no contact.
Joyner said the plane departed Prattville, about 12 miles northwest of
Montgomery, at about 9 a.m.
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| Subject: | Scott Crossfield plane missing |
Uh oh. He was one of the good'uns. Hope he's OK. That is some pretty
rugged country. I flew over it in my Piet last summer and just prayed
the old Continental would keep on chugging.
Jack Phillips
Looking ahead to flying this weekend
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
D Cuy
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:45 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Scott Crossfield plane missing
ugh...my wife just forwarded this to me.
FYI.
do not archive
ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Authorities were searching early Thursday for
a small plane registered to a famed test pilot that vanished from radar
on Wednesday on a flight from Prattville, Alabama, to Manassas,
Virginia.
Air traffic control last had contact with the plane registered to test
pilot Scott Crossfield about 11 a.m. Wednesday when it was about 10
miles southwest of Ellijay, Georgia, about 60 miles north of Atlanta, an
FAA spokeswoman told CNN.
The spokeswoman said she could not confirm who was aboard the single
engine plane.
Crossfield, 84, was the first man to fly the X-15 rocket-powered jet and
made aeronautical history in 1953 by becoming the first pilot to fly
faster than Mach 2 (twice the speed of sound).
While at NACA -- the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics, the
predecessor for NASA -- Crossfield was the test pilot for several
research aircraft and won dozens of awards and honors for his pioneering
work. He also served as an executive for Eastern Airlines and Hawker
Siddley Aviation, according to his NASA biography.
When he retired in 1983, he received the NASA Distinguished Public
Service Medal, the biography noted.
Crossfield's test pilot character was immortalized in the book by Tom
Wolfe, "The Right Stuff," and portrayed by actor Scott Wilson in the
movie of the same name.
Capt. Paige Joyner of the Civil Air Patrol also would not confirm the
identity of the pilot but said the family had reported no contact.
Joyner said the plane departed Prattville, about 12 miles northwest of
Montgomery, at about 9 a.m.
Working together. For life.(sm)
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| Subject: | Here's the rib comparison |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Brown Gravy" <mjs.browngravy@yahoo.com>
Here's an AutoCAD drawing containing an overlay of the ordinates found on http://www.airminded.net/piet/piet.html and the dimensons given in the F&G manual. Unless I totally screwed up entering the dimensions from the F&G manual they are either less than perfect or it's a brilliant airfoil of some sort. You all take a look. The cayn line with the yellow circles is the F&G airfoil and the Red spline was generated from the ordinates found at the above site.
AutoCAD drawing viewers are easy to find as freeware. I tested the drawing file with the free viewer found at http://www.infograph.com/products/dwgviewer/
(remember you take responsability for you own downloads). Anyway, the drawing file
is attached.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=29689#29689
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| Subject: | Re: another video (doh!) |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ken <av8orken@adelphia.net>
Totalled??
harvey rule wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
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> All he or she had to do was cut the throttle to nothing and that plane
> would have come to a stop in the water and no damage would have
> occured.As I see it ;it was totalled by the time it came to a stop on
> the beach and they were lucky they didn't kill someone including
> themselves.Then again maybe the pilot was wishing he were dead after
> doing this!
>
> Ben Williams wrote:
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ben Williams <benw@pdi.com>
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| Subject: | Here's the rib comparison |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve" <redsglass@hotmail.com>
Hi BG
Is the file attached to the piet site or one of the others? Looking forward
to comparing the two. Did you put the spars in?
Best regards
Steve G
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brown Gravy
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:16 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Here's the rib comparison
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Brown Gravy"
<mjs.browngravy@yahoo.com>
Here's an AutoCAD drawing containing an overlay of the ordinates found on
http://www.airminded.net/piet/piet.html and the dimensons given in the F&G
manual. Unless I totally screwed up entering the dimensions from the F&G
manual they are either less than perfect or it's a brilliant airfoil of some
sort. You all take a look. The cayn line with the yellow circles is the F&G
airfoil and the Red spline was generated from the ordinates found at the
above site.
AutoCAD drawing viewers are easy to find as freeware. I tested the drawing
file with the free viewer found at
http://www.infograph.com/products/dwgviewer/
(remember you take responsability for you own downloads). Anyway, the
drawing file is attached.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=29689#29689
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| Subject: | Re: Here's the rib comparison |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Brown Gravy" <mjs.browngravy@yahoo.com>
I really don't know where the file ended up. I simply attached the file when I
wrote the message.
I didn't attach the spars. It's only a comparison of the curve. I didn't include
the spars or other membersbecause I haven't received my plans yet and I don't
want anyone using my drawing to locate critical members.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=29699#29699
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| Subject: | Re: Scott Crossfield plane missing |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: GCARDINAL@mn.rr.com
Associated Press is confirming that he died. His body was found in the
wreckage.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Scott Crossfield plane missing
> Uh oh. He was one of the good'uns. Hope he's OK. That is some
> prettyrugged country. I flew over it in my Piet last summer and
> just prayed
> the old Continental would keep on chugging.
>
>
>
> Jack Phillips
>
> Looking ahead to flying this weekend
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> MichaelD Cuy
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:45 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Scott Crossfield plane missing
>
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> ugh...my wife just forwarded this to me.
>
> FYI.
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> do not archive
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> ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Authorities were searching early
> Thursday for
> a small plane registered to a famed test pilot that vanished from
> radaron Wednesday on a flight from Prattville, Alabama, to Manassas,
> Virginia.
>
> Air traffic control last had contact with the plane registered to test
> pilot Scott Crossfield about 11 a.m. Wednesday when it was about 10
> miles southwest of Ellijay, Georgia, about 60 miles north of
> Atlanta, an
> FAA spokeswoman told CNN.
>
> The spokeswoman said she could not confirm who was aboard the single
> engine plane.
>
> Crossfield, 84, was the first man to fly the X-15 rocket-powered
> jet and
> made aeronautical history in 1953 by becoming the first pilot to fly
> faster than Mach 2 (twice the speed of sound).
>
> While at NACA -- the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics, the
> predecessor for NASA -- Crossfield was the test pilot for several
> research aircraft and won dozens of awards and honors for his
> pioneeringwork. He also served as an executive for Eastern
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Brown Gravy" <mjs.browngravy@yahoo.com>
Perhaps it wasn't allowed and was deleted?
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Mr. Gravy, (or should we call you "Brown")
Maybe you only THOUGHT you attached the file - I've done that many a
time.
Try submitting it again - see what happens.
Bill C.
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Perhaps it wasn't allowed and was deleted?
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Please address me as "Mr. Gravy"
Anyway, I've checked the allowed attachments and .dwg and .dxf are not allowed.
Attached is a pdf. The centers of the circles are the points as called out in
the F&G Manual. The smooth curve is the derived from the ordinates.
Manny
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OK, so by the over whelming response I will be building my own wing rib jig. The
thought, by buying one already made was not because I couldn't do it, I was
just trying to save some time. I now see the logic in building and keeping my
own jig. Next Question? Is there any difference or benefit by either soaking
or steaming your capstrips, does one work any better than the other. Thanks Again
for the help and support. Bryan
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| Subject: | Re: Amazing crosswind landings vid |
Walt,
It almost looked like an ercoupe landing.......
walt evans <waltdak@verizon.net> wrote:
Go to this site and download this vid. Big jets landing in some severe
crosswinds.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=791011
It's AMAZING!
walt evans
NX140DL
do not archive
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There is a third option: ammonia fuming w/ anhydrous (spelling) ammonia. It's an
advanced method of bending wood. I'm not certain how it effects the overall
strength of the wood. The process basically destroys the integrity of the wood
giving it the consistancy of a wet noodle. Once all the ammonia is gone in I
believe 25 minutes or so the wood rehardens into its original state but with whatever
bends it has been given remaining. You'd be able to tie those cap strips
into tight knots if you wanted too. I don't know if this method has even been
applied to aircraft construction. Much testing would have to take place to
assure safety obviously before it could be applied.
Imagine a continuous cap strip on wing ribs with no leading edges to make. Or,
plywood made to bend into complex compound curves like the composite ships.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
Bryan,
I'm building ribs right now. I made the rib jig and posted some pictures of it
on my site as well as my bending jig and other wing building accessories. I
also crushed a sample gusset joint this evening as a confidence builder. I tested
a method for quickly leveling the edge of the gusset with a router and a
laminate flush trim bit so the top and bottom capstrips surfaces are smooth.
Works very well and saves time. I just posted some pictures of this on my site
too. The funny thing is that none of these ideas were mine, all came folks
on the list.
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Glenn Thomas
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http://www.flyingwood.com
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