---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/22/06: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:31 AM - Re: tire shaving and ELT (Clif Dawson) 2. 12:41 AM - Re: Re: nails or staples (Clif Dawson) 3. 04:20 AM - Re: nails or staples (Glenn Thomas) 4. 04:22 AM - Nails or staples (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)) 5. 04:24 AM - Re: tire shaving and ELT (Glenn Thomas) 6. 06:13 AM - new guy again (EmchAir@aol.com) 7. 06:30 AM - question marks (EmchAir@aol.com) 8. 08:23 AM - ELT Hmmmmmm (Isablcorky@aol.com) 9. 12:16 PM - Re: ELT Hmmmmmm () 10. 12:16 PM - Re: Re: tire shaving and ELT () 11. 12:21 PM - Re: ELT requirements () 12. 04:15 PM - I flew Thurs. (walt evans) 13. 05:43 PM - Re: Re: tire shaving and ELT (dmott9@aol.com) 14. 05:43 PM - Re: I flew Thurs. (Dick Navratil) 15. 08:06 PM - ELT Frequency (Rcaprd@aol.com) 16. 08:07 PM - Re: ELT Hmmmmmm (Alan Lyscars) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:07 AM PST US From: Clif Dawson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tire shaving and ELT --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson In the mid 30's, when the Boeing 247 was a new state of the art aircraft, one left Seattle for Vancouver. It never arrived. The mystery was finally solved some 10 years ago when it was finally discovered by hikers only a few miles north of where I'm sitting, here in the middle of a large and thriving metropolis of two million souls. Except for ultralights, balloons, hang gliders and auto- gyros, all AC must carry an approved ELT and "appropriate" survival gear. They don't call them the "Rocky's" for nothing. Around here it's not just aeroplanes that go uppity-up-up and downity-down-down. Now, if someone would just trap that damn skunk that makes my nights miserable, the racoons that party all night in my backyard and the coyotes that ate my neighbours dog......AH, well, I guess there are some sacrifices to be made for living in a huge park. :-) :-) I should really think about putting this Piet on floats, or at least huge balloon tires. I think 12.50X20's aught to do it. Clif > > Douwe-- my inspector never even asked about wether or not I had an > ELT (for the flight test period you don't need an ELT) > > and I did not have one-- nor do I to this day. > > Mike C. > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:41:27 AM PST US From: Clif Dawson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: nails or staples --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson Why would it be another month? After you have that rib in the jig you're spending that curing time making brackets, building landing gear, constructing control horns.....right? Clif > 2 fellow builders in my area say it wastes time because if you staple you > can pull the rib out of the jig and make another rib while the first one > cures. I don't know if the rib could relax into slightly different shape > so I can live with the rib-a-day plan. Whats another month over the 5 > years I'll be building? > > -------- > Glenn Thomas > N????? > http://www.flyingwood.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:20:34 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: nails or staples From: "Glenn Thomas" --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas" Very true. I have 2 Corvairs that need to come apart. Need to put in an order for more wood. Corky recommended a lumber source to me and I'd like to try them (reputable lumberyard in WA) rather than an aircraft supply store. Seems like if they can put an "aircraft" label on it the price triples. Need to order soon. I'd like to get the tail feathers started. -------- Glenn Thomas N????? http://www.flyingwood.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=30009#30009 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:22:59 AM PST US From: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) Subject: Pietenpol-List: Nails or staples --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) I used staples to stick on the gussets. Arrow JT21 stapler. ( Arrow T50 stapler for 1/8" gussets )I bought the staples from Sears. It looks like they are sharper and rounder than Arrow staples. They didn't split the wood. I was able to immediately pull the rib out of the jig, flip it over and gusset the other side. I once knocked out 3 ribs in one cold rainy day. Latter, at your leasure, while watching tv or something you can pull the staples. A sharply pointed stake knife worked good for that. Cover your lap with a Sunday newspaper especially the family jewelry incase the knife slips. Leon S. Ks. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:24:36 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: tire shaving and ELT From: "Glenn Thomas" --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas" Sorry, What is ELT? End of Life Tire??? That's my best guess. I'm new to this so it could very well be a standard term. -------- Glenn Thomas N????? http://www.flyingwood.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=30011#30011 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:27 AM PST US From: EmchAir@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: new guy again Hello, > My name is Don Emch. I posted some messages on here quite a while ago and > kind of faded away from it since then. I thought I would try to get in touch > with you all again. > > I tried to attach a photo of my Piet. Maybe I'll try on the Matronics > pictures site too. I got it flying last September and am really happy with it so > far. It's a real kick to fly! It has an A-65, but other than that is > basically a plans built ship. Weighs in at 626 lbs. and cruises at about 80 mph. > > A lot of people really helped me out on this thing, so if I could possibly > help someone else, let me know. Currently I am based at Barber Airport in > Alliance, Ohio. Kinda cool, I'm honored to hangar with Frank Pavliga's Sky > Gypsy (a piet that has become a legend in itself). Anyway both Piets should be > at the June 3-4 Corvair Fly-in at Barber's, just in case any others want to > attend. > > Don Emch ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:27 AM PST US From: EmchAir@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: question marks Sorry about the question marks. Don't know what's up there! Don ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:23:54 AM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: ELT Hmmmmmm Do not archive Hey Mikeeeeee. Now I have finally found a point of revenge for my Great grandpa for his sacrifice at Shiloh back in '62 A sneaking, conniving, sleazy Rebel Do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:16:16 PM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: ELT Hmmmmmm From: Geeeze you guys are about as bad as the Irish;the devel likes this to keep going as long as he can,fight ,fight for might,might,might! ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Isablcorky@aol.com Sent: April 22, 2006 11:22 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: ELT Hmmmmmm Do not archive Hey Mikeeeeee. Now I have finally found a point of revenge for my Great grandpa for his sacrifice at Shiloh back in '62 A sneaking, conniving, sleazy Rebel Do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:16:16 PM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: tire shaving and ELT From: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: ELT ;emergency location transmitter for when your ass is where it shouldn't be. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Thomas Sent: April 22, 2006 7:24 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: tire shaving and ELT --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas" Sorry, What is ELT? End of Life Tire??? That's my best guess. I'm new to this so it could very well be a standard term. -------- Glenn Thomas N????? http://www.flyingwood.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=30011#30011 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:21:42 PM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: ELT requirements From: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: If you register as I did as an ultralight then you don't need one of these.I suppose they don't care if they ever find you HAHAHA! Don't archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: April 21, 2006 6:08 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: ELT requirements --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" I am going to blackmail Mike Cuy since I now know that he is operating his Piet in violation of the FARs. I believe an ELT is required. There are exemptions made when it is required to ferry an aircraft from a place where repairs cannot be made to a place where they can, and other ferry operations. More useful, however, are these (numbers correspond to the exceptions noted in the applicable FAR): (3) aircraft while engaged in training operations conducted entirely within a 50-nautical mile radius of the airport from which such local flight operations began ["flying off your hours" or just training] (4) aircraft while engaged in flight operations incident to design and testing [which I guess you could say most experimentals are doing every time they fly], and (9)aircraft equipped to carry not more than one person. [as in, Sky Scout]. All others- ELT or beware a ramp check. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:15:14 PM PST US From: "walt evans" Subject: Pietenpol-List: I flew Thurs. I flew for the first time in '06 on Thursday. Man , It was great! I had put new exhaust pipes on with new muffs for carb heat, and they gave me a good (better) drop than the old. From Wag Aero, pipes for an Aeronca 7AC. Ain't Life Grand!! walt evans NX140DL "Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you" Ben Franklin ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:43:21 PM PST US From: dmott9@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: tire shaving and ELT --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dmott9@aol.com Yeah, ELT - that thing that goes off when you don't want it to, in the hanger, then when you crash land in the trees or in a rough field, won't activate when you want it to. Its puts out a weak Beacon signal that is supposed to be on a frequency thats monitored from space and able to be pinpointed, yet can be activated for 3 days and no one is looking for you. There are portable ones that you can mount with velcro, so whose to say Mike doesn't have one he attaches with velcro to the bottom of his seat :) -----Original Message----- From: harvey.rule@bell.ca Sent: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:15:07 -0400 Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: tire shaving and ELT --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: ELT ;emergency location transmitter for when your ass is where it shouldn't be. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Thomas Sent: April 22, 2006 7:24 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: tire shaving and ELT --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas" Sorry, What is ELT? End of Life Tire??? That's my best guess. I'm new to this so it could very well be a standard term. -------- Glenn Thomas N????? http://www.flyingwood.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=30011#30011 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:43:21 PM PST US From: "Dick Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I flew Thurs. Walt I had an EAA chapter meeting at my hangar last Wed night. One of the guys there gave me a warning about the Aeronica pipes, which I also use, along with several others on the list. This guy said he once had a pipe break which came down and destroyed the prop and caused an emergency landing. Apparantly, there is an additional support bracket which is supposed to tie the pipes together for safety. I've never seen this, maybe someone else on the list has more info. I probably won't be back in the air for a couple of more weeks. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: walt evans To: piet list Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 6:10 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: I flew Thurs. I flew for the first time in '06 on Thursday. Man , It was great! I had put new exhaust pipes on with new muffs for carb heat, and they gave me a good (better) drop than the old. From Wag Aero, pipes for an Aeronca 7AC. Ain't Life Grand!! walt evans NX140DL "Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you" Ben Franklin ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:06:12 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: ELT Frequency In a message dated 4/21/2006 3:33:48 PM Central Standard Time, douweblumberg@earthlink.net writes: I'm confused about whether I need an ELT or not. I think the Feds are changing the frequency of ELT's (currently 121.5 mhz), by something like the year 2008, in order to include much more information about the source of the signal, as well as being easier to locate. This means you will have to buy a new one, if yours doesn't comply. Chuck G. NX770CG ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:12 PM PST US From: "Alan Lyscars" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ELT Hmmmmmm Hey Johneeeee, Is there ever a time that one lets sleeping dogs lie? Alan (the Yank) ----- Original Message ----- From: Isablcorky@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 11:21 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: ELT Hmmmmmm Do not archive Hey Mikeeeeee. Now I have finally found a point of revenge for my Great grandpa for his sacrifice at Shiloh back in '62 A sneaking, conniving, sleazy Rebel Do not archive