Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Mon 04/24/06


Total Messages Posted: 24



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:34 AM - Re: Flying NX899DE (walt evans)
     2. 04:26 AM - Re: Flying NX899DE (DGflyer)
     3. 04:35 AM - Liability (Tim)
     4. 04:58 AM - Re: Re: new guy again (Phillips, Jack)
     5. 05:55 AM - flying NX899DE (Oscar Zuniga)
     6. 06:07 AM - Re: Liability (dmott9@aol.com)
     7. 07:06 AM - Re: Re: new guy again (Jack T. Textor)
     8. 07:08 AM - Re: Flying NX899DE (Glenn Thomas)
     9. 07:10 AM - Don E's Airplane--from Ohio  (Michael D Cuy)
    10. 07:20 AM - Re: Don E's Airplane--from Ohio  (Phillips, Jack)
    11. 07:39 AM - Re: Flying NX899DE (Hans Vander Voort)
    12. 07:39 AM - Re: Liability (R Matt Doody)
    13. 08:33 AM - Re: Liability (Rob Stapleton)
    14. 08:44 AM - giving back (Michael D Cuy)
    15. 11:12 AM - ELT Frequency (Michael D Cuy)
    16. 11:44 AM - Re: ELT Frequency (Phillips, Jack)
    17. 11:50 AM - Re: ELT Frequency ()
    18. 11:58 AM - Broadhead to Oshkosh (brian jardine)
    19. 01:47 PM - Piet. 0-200 (Tim)
    20. 04:07 PM - New Piet (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan))
    21. 04:18 PM - Re: Don E's Airplane--from Ohio (DGflyer)
    22. 05:43 PM - Pietenpol (R Matt Doody)
    23. 06:45 PM - Re: Broadhead to Oshkosh (Dick Navratil)
    24. 07:32 PM - ELT and booster seats (Oscar Zuniga)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:34:04 AM PST US
    From: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Flying NX899DE
    Don, GREAT! looking plane!!! Nice job. Needs some kind of emblem on the side : ) Good luck with it. walt evans NX140DL "Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you" Ben Franklin ----- Original Message ----- From: Rcaprd@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:17 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying NX899DE In a message dated 4/23/2006 10:38:35 PM Central Standard Time, EmchAir@aol.com writes: Hi guys... Sure Greg I can give a first flight report. I first flew it back in September. I hadn't flown in a couple of years and had no tailwheel time. I thought flying in a mixture of planes would help to learn new flying qualities. I got some time in a Champ, Cub, T-Craft, and Citabria. After those I started taxiing the Piet faster and faster until I was running down the runway with the tail in the air. One evening I was doing this with my wife and 3 kids at the airport with me. After one run I taxied over to my wife and told her I felt pretty good with it. She was very supportive and said 'I think you're ready too'. I sat at the end of the runway flying the flight in my head for the 1000th time! I firewalled it for the first time( all the taxis were partial throttle) and wasn't sure this would be it until it was trying to lift off the ground. It was a short flight, but all went well. It was a fascinating mixture of exhilaration, adrenaline, excitement, and outright fear! It is a very forgiving and gentle flying airplane though. The flight went so well because of the design not the pilot! Since then I've gotten to know it better. I absolutely love flying it! It is very easy to land as long as you are straight at touchdown. If you aren't that tall narrow gear will let you know! I really liked how the Cub flew, and of the four it is the most similar. But I like how the Piet flies MUCH more! Lots of fun! Some specs are; A-65 with 72 x 44 Hegy prop ( I'd like to find a 72 x 42 Falcon) Split axle gear with 19" homemade hub wire wheels with go-cart brakes 4" homemade tailwheel on tail skid A- frame 14.5 gallon nose tank Long fuselage Sky Gypsy type cowl Takeoff run lasts about 7 seconds Cruise about 80mph (full throttle shows about 88mph, but the aiframe acts like it doesn't like it there!) I pirated a lot of ideas from other Piets at Brodhead and if there is anyway I could help someone and return the favor please let me know! I put a picture on the Frappr site; http://www.frappr.com/?a=3Dphoto&gid=3D27292&pid=3D1831955&src=3Dflash_slideticker Don Emch NX899DE Don, Great report !! Posts like this really offers a LOT of encouragement for all those folks out there in the building stage and it's a great way to exchange thoughts about the flying characteristics, too. What is your tach read at full power, level flight ? My plane also lets me know that she doesn't like those high speed, full power runs !! It's like she tightens up, and buzzes at me !! Does your mechanical tach have any error...checked possibly with an electronic tach ? Does your airspeed have any error...have you checked with a GPS yet ? I suppose there are lots of ways to calibrate ASI...like pace yourself with traffic, or if you have good section lines to go by in your local terrain, do a timed one mile straight, level flight, on each of the cardinal compass directions, then average the time speeds and see how it compares with indicated speed. Also, I'm curious as to what your oil temp indicates, and what the ambient temp was ? Chuck G. NX770CG


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    Time: 04:26:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flying NX899DE
    From: "DGflyer" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DGflyer" <EmchAir@aol.com> I guess I should have said I'm 'indicating' about 80 mph. I haven't checked with gps yet. I had a T-Craft along side me and after the flight he said he was indicating around the same. That doesn't mean much though. When the airplane is indicating anywhere in the 70 to 80 mph range it just seems to feel right, it's like it 'likes it there'. The tach is a used one and I think I know why it was removed from the last airplane. It reads low, about 1950rpm at that 80 mph. The airport owner, Forrest Barber, says he has an electronic tach for me to check it with. Maybe next time out. This past week my oil temps seemed to be in the 150 to 160 degree range at probably 60 degree ambient. One thing I'm gonna try to change is the mags. I've got the pold lunch box Bendix mags. Beautiful when there running. But without the impulses the kick backs at startup are getting old! If anyone knows of a set of impulse mags, please let me know. Don Emch Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=30299#30299


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    Time: 04:35:04 AM PST US
    From: Tim <twilliams@mailmt.com>
    Subject: Liability
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Tim <twilliams@mailmt.com> Gentlemen, maybe someone can help with this question. I bought a certified flying Piet. from the builder. I had to do a 'top end' on it. I'm not an IA or an A&P. I'm thinking about selling the plane and I've been told that without a 'sign off'. I'm liable for any subsequent problems. I've been thinking about completely dismantling the plane and selling it as junk. Any thoughts on this . Thanks


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    Time: 04:58:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: new guy again
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> Hey Don, Congratulations on the flight and the plane! I like your choice of colors. As Walt Evans is fond of saying, "Ain't life grand!" Jack Phillips NX899JP -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DGflyer Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 11:34 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: new guy again --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DGflyer" <EmchAir@aol.com> Hi guys... Sure Greg I can give a first flight report. I first flew it back in September. I hadn't flown in a couple of years and had no tailwheel time. I thought flying in a mixture of planes would help to learn new flying qualities. I got some time in a Champ, Cub, T-Craft, and Citabria. After those I started taxiing the Piet faster and faster until I was running down the runway with the tail in the air. One evening I was doing this with my wife and 3 kids at the airport with me. After one run I taxied over to my wife and told her I felt pretty good with it. She was very supportive and said 'I think you're ready too'. I sat at the end of the runway flying the flight in my head for the 1000th time! I firewalled it for the first time( all the taxis were partial throttle) and wasn't sure this would be it until it was trying to lift off the ground. It was a short flight, but all went well. It was a fascinating mixture of exhilaration, adrenaline, excitement, and outright fear! It is a very forgiving and gentle flying airplane though. The flight went so well because of the design not the pilot! Since then I've gotten to know it better. I absolutely love flying it! It is very easy to land as long as you are straight at touchdown. If you aren't that tall narrow gear will let you know! I really liked how the Cub flew, and of the four it is the most similar. But I like how the Piet flies MUCH more! Lots of fun! Some specs are; A-65 with 72 x 44 Hegy prop ( I'd like to find a 72 x 42 Falcon) Split axle gear with 19" homemade hub wire wheels with go-cart brakes 4" homemade tailwheel on tail skid A- frame 14.5 gallon nose tank Long fuselage Sky Gypsy type cowl Takeoff run lasts about 7 seconds Cruise about 80mph (full throttle shows about 88mph, but the aiframe acts like it doesn't like it there!) I pirated a lot of ideas from other Piets at Brodhead and if there is anyway I could help someone and return the favor please let me know! I put a picture on the Frappr site; http://www.frappr.com/?a=photo&gid=27292&pid=1831955&src=flash_slidetick er Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=30276#30276 Cardinal Health -- Working together. For life. (sm) This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email


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    Time: 05:55:37 AM PST US
    From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: flying NX899DE
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> Folks, if you haven't taken a look at Don's airplane, at http://www.frappr.com/?a=photo&gid=27292&pid=1831955&src=flash_slideticker , go there now and take a look. Do not pass "GO", do not collect $200...!! What a beauty! And the photo pose is just classic Pietenpol. I have a new screen saver... Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 06:07:39 AM PST US
    From: dmott9@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Liability
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dmott9@aol.com My thoughts would be to pull the engine, sell it separate from the airframe, and let the buyer of the airframe choose and install their own engine. Does it have a A-65 ? Maybe someone has a ready to go Corvair they are itching at getting in the air. DMflyer -----Original Message----- From: Tim <twilliams@mailmt.com> Sent: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 07:34:26 -0400 Subject: Pietenpol-List: Liability --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Tim <twilliams@mailmt.com> Gentlemen, maybe someone can help with this question. I bought a certified flying Piet. from the builder. I had to do a 'top end' on it. I'm not an IA or an A&P. I'm thinking about selling the plane and I've been told that without a 'sign off'. I'm liable for any subsequent problems. I've been thinking about completely dismantling the plane and selling it as junk. Any thoughts on this . Thanks


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    Time: 07:06:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: new guy again
    From: "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com> Don, Beautiful kids....plane too! Jack Textor Hi guys... Sure Greg I can give a first flight report. I first flew it back in September. I hadn't flown in a couple of years and had no tailwheel time. I thought flying in a mixture of planes would help to learn new flying qualities. I got some time in a Champ, Cub, T-Craft, and Citabria. After those I started taxiing the Piet faster and faster until I was running down the runway with the tail in the air. One evening I was doing this with my wife and 3 kids at the airport with me. After one run I taxied over to my wife and told her I felt pretty good with it. She was very supportive and said 'I think you're ready too'. I sat at the end of the runway flying the flight in my head for the 1000th time! I firewalled it for the first time( all the taxis were partial throttle) and wasn't sure this would be it until it was trying to lift off the ground. It was a short flight, but all went well. It was a fascinating mixture of exhilaration, adrenaline, excitement, and outright fear! It is a very forgiving and gentle flying airplane though. The flight went so well because of the design not the pilot! Since then I've gotten to know it better. I absolutely love flying it! It is very easy to land as long as you are straight at touchdown. If you aren't that tall narrow gear will let you know! I really liked how the Cub flew, and of the four it is the most similar. But I like how the Piet flies MUCH more! Lots of fun! Some specs are; A-65 with 72 x 44 Hegy prop ( I'd like to find a 72 x 42 Falcon) Split axle gear with 19" homemade hub wire wheels with go-cart brakes 4" homemade tailwheel on tail skid A- frame 14.5 gallon nose tank Long fuselage Sky Gypsy type cowl Takeoff run lasts about 7 seconds Cruise about 80mph (full throttle shows about 88mph, but the aiframe acts like it doesn't like it there!) I pirated a lot of ideas from other Piets at Brodhead and if there is anyway I could help someone and return the favor please let me know! I put a picture on the Frappr site; http://www.frappr.com/?a=photo&gid=27292&pid=1831955&src=flash_slidetick er Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=30276#30276 Cardinal Health -- Working together. For life. (sm) This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email


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    Time: 07:08:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flying NX899DE
    From: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com> Like Chuck said, Us new builders eat that stuff up! I still sit and think about what it will be like taxing down the runway and then taking off and my wheels in the air with nobody but me to get them back on the ground again. I will do everything I can to prep myself for that day but I still I can vividly imaging the exhileration and fear of that momentus occasion. You have achieved the period look of the plane and did a fantastic job. You first flight report was probably the best post I've read since I started this project. Really gets you going!!! Thanks -------- Glenn Thomas N????? http://www.flyingwood.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=30329#30329


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    Time: 07:10:11 AM PST US
    From: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
    Subject: Don E's Airplane--from Ohio
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> Group-- I've had the pleasure of meeting Don over the years at various fly-in's and he has really stuck with the project thru many life events and construction growing pains along the way. I've seen the airplane in person as well and it is every bit as beautiful as the photo--and then some. Congratulations Don----a lifelong dream come true. Mike C.


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    Time: 07:20:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Don E's Airplane--from Ohio
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> >From the photo, it appears that another really fine Pietenpol has been built. I think this whole group owes a debt of gratitude to Mike Cuy and Chuck Gantzer for the video materials they have produced and the countless emails and other advising they have given that contribute to increasingly better Pietenpols being built. It is important that those of us who have followed them continue to pass along the knowledge we have learned to those who are now building. I know my plane would be much lower quality without all the help I got from Mike as I was building. Congrats again, Don, on a fine looking Pietenpol. I wish I could go to Brodhead this yer to see it in person. Jack Phillips NX899JP Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael D Cuy Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:10 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Don E's Airplane--from Ohio --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> Group-- I've had the pleasure of meeting Don over the years at various fly-in's and he has really stuck with the project thru many life events and construction growing pains along the way. I've seen the airplane in person as well and it is every bit as beautiful as the photo--and then some. Congratulations Don----a lifelong dream come true. Mike C. Cardinal Health -- Working together. For life. (sm) This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email


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    Time: 07:39:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flying NX899DE
    From: Hans Vander Voort <hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Hans Vander Voort <hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com> Nice plane, Don. I noticed this must be the first three seat Pietenpol. Have fun with it and many safe flights. Hans


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    Time: 07:39:15 AM PST US
    From: R Matt Doody <rmattd123@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Liability
    Tim, I'm an A&P where is your airplane located? Would you consider selling complete? Matt Tim <twilliams@mailmt.com> wrote: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Tim Gentlemen, maybe someone can help with this question. I bought a certified flying Piet. from the builder. I had to do a 'top end' on it. I'm not an IA or an A&P. I'm thinking about selling the plane and I've been told that without a 'sign off'. I'm liable for any subsequent problems. I've been thinking about completely dismantling the plane and selling it as junk. Any thoughts on this . Thanks ---------------------------------


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    Time: 08:33:37 AM PST US
    From: "Rob Stapleton" <foto@alaska.net>
    Subject: Liability
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Rob Stapleton" <foto@alaska.net> Well just have an A&P look it over and sign off on it. If you decide to part it up, send up this way to Alaska, I could use the extra parts.... You will have no liability with it then! Ha. Rob -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 3:34 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Liability --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Tim <twilliams@mailmt.com> Gentlemen, maybe someone can help with this question. I bought a certified flying Piet. from the builder. I had to do a 'top end' on it. I'm not an IA or an A&P. I'm thinking about selling the plane and I've been told that without a 'sign off'. I'm liable for any subsequent problems. I've been thinking about completely dismantling the plane and selling it as junk. Any thoughts on this . Thanks


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    Time: 08:44:00 AM PST US
    From: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
    Subject: giving back
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> I appreciate Jack's good words and can only reflect back that those who built before me helped me so much with ideas and dilemma's that I felt it was only right to help others coming into the building phase after me. I took notes, measurements, photos, and video up at Brodhead for a few years before I even began cutting wood and to those builders I owe a big thank you for how they helped me along when I needed it. The gem in all of this Pietenpol stuff are the friends we have made and will make along the way. In retrospect the friendships are just the best--- other guys who just love the same kind of things plus each is unique--some are attorneys, some are corporate pilots, others student pilots, college students, retired WWII veterans, Corvair experts, dentists, factory workers, technicians, artists, sculptors, engineers, publishers, mechanics, airline pilots, military pilots or former veterans, construction and trades people, low time, high time, and no time pilots, some who smoke, some who don't, a guy named Javier who flies for the government of Mexico, judges, guys with great senses of humor, some who are into other things that just amaze us and intrigue us. All just a neat group of folks. ......just a real diverse group. The creativeness of scratch/plans builders always impresses me. After you think there are about 6 ways to do a job you hear some guys idea from Peoria who comes up with a 7th way that is much easier and weighs less ! Impressive people on the list who are just everyday Joe's in most ways otherwise. Mike C.


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    Time: 11:12:27 AM PST US
    From: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
    Subject: ELT Frequency
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> Oh yes, Oscar---- what I've been doing is holding off on buying an ELT until the new frequency units become available. (yeah right !) I probably should carry one, but figure they will just follow where the smoke is coming from. (hopefully never will happen !) Mike C. do not archive


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    Time: 11:44:15 AM PST US
    Subject: ELT Frequency
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> Oscar, weren't you the one talking about how when NX41CC went down the ELT was set off and nobody ever responded to it? Jack Phillips -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael D Cuy Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: ELT Frequency --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> Oh yes, Oscar---- what I've been doing is holding off on buying an ELT until the new frequency units become available. (yeah right !) I probably should carry one, but figure they will just follow where the smoke is coming from. (hopefully never will happen !) Mike C. do not archive Cardinal Health -- Working together. For life. (sm) This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email


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    Time: 11:50:17 AM PST US
    Subject: ELT Frequency
    From: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <harvey.rule@bell.ca> The chances of an ELT being operational after a crash is unlikely at best.As we say in the ultralight world;just do a controlled crash and walk away and don't land in swamp.;-) Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillips, Jack Sent: April 24, 2006 2:43 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: ELT Frequency --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> Oscar, weren't you the one talking about how when NX41CC went down the ELT was set off and nobody ever responded to it? Jack Phillips -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael D Cuy Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:11 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: ELT Frequency --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> Oh yes, Oscar---- what I've been doing is holding off on buying an ELT until the new frequency units become available. (yeah right !) I probably should carry one, but figure they will just follow where the smoke is coming from. (hopefully never will happen !) Mike C. do not archive Cardinal Health -- Working together. For life. (sm) This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - Norsk - Portuguese - Svenska: www.cardinalhealth.com/legal/email


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    Time: 11:58:20 AM PST US
    From: brian jardine <saddleguys@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Broadhead to Oshkosh
    Group, I am planning a cross-country trip (driving) from Utah to Broadhead, and then on to Air Adventure at Oshkosh. I am bringing my 3 young boys, 12, 9, and 5. I hope to give them a good dose of Piet exposure. Does anyone have any recommendations for camping at Broadhead, and campgrounds near Oshkosh? I have looked at the Air Adventure planning on their website, but not familiar with the area, I don't know which sites are better than others. I'm sure reservations fill up fast. Hopefully something with fishing close by, to entertain the boys in the evening. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks. Brian Clinton, UT ---------------------------------


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    Time: 01:47:58 PM PST US
    From: Tim <twilliams@mailmt.com>
    Subject: Piet. 0-200
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Tim <twilliams@mailmt.com> After 3 engine failures with a model A engine the builder installed a Cont. 0-200. After I/we did the 'top end' a friend flew it for a total of 3 hours with no problems. Sounds real good now.


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    Time: 04:07:43 PM PST US
    From: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
    Subject: New Piet
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) Don E said "I haven't checked my speed with a GPS yet...." Another way to check your ground speed is by timing your movement across a mile, then dividing your no. of seconds by 3600. That is your ground speed. Pick a wind free time to do this. In Kansas where the ground is laid out in sq. mile checker boards you can time your self going all 4 directions, add the 4 totals, than divide by 4 to get an average in all directions. This averages out the wind. (I hope that made sense) Beautiful Piet Don. Camping at Brodhed is easy. There are showers. Just put $10 in the kitty, and get a Brodhead 06 button. It off sets costs to the EAA ch. that throws the party. Oshkosh is about the same but they charge for the camping. The public showers are degrading, but if you are worried about your looks, don't. There is always someone there that looks worse than you. See you at Brodhead. Leon S. feeling better about muself already


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    Time: 04:18:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Don E's Airplane--from Ohio
    From: "DGflyer" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DGflyer" <EmchAir@aol.com> Thanks guys for all the nice comments. The neat thing about building from plans is that you can use ideas from others and create your own blend to build what you like. I really tried to stick to the plans as much as possible, but other small variations like tailwheel, cowl, fuel tank, etc. came from others. I don't think any of the variations I can claim as strictly my own idea. After a decade of attending Brodhead you really do get a good sampling of ideas! I really don't think I could have built it without seeing other airplanes. I have also checked the list archives for ideas for the last couple of years and thought I better try to get a little more involved on here. So thanks to all of the people that have helped me out whether they know it or not! Walt I've spent the last 10 years trying to come up a design/logo for the fuselage side. I guess I'm just not very creative there! Maybe I can get a sponsor...?! By the way normal people don't spend a decade getting one of these in the air. But life and hangar collapses do happen! Don Emch Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=30427#30427


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    Time: 05:43:51 PM PST US
    From: R Matt Doody <rmattd123@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Pietenpol
    I have noticed Chris Cummin's Pietenpol on Frappr Groups and it appears to have some unique features. From what I can tell in the picture it has dihedral, out ward canted cabanes and steel empennage. I would like to learn more about this unique Piet? Matt ---------------------------------


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    Time: 06:45:34 PM PST US
    From: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: Broadhead to Oshkosh
    Brian Camping is right on the field at Broadhead. If you get there early you can get a spot under the trees if tenting. We just put up the tents under the wing of the plane. It's a short ride into town. At OSH the campgrounds are massive. There will be room. If you have room, bring bikes for the trip in and out. If you are refering to private campgrounds, there are some in the area but I don't know them. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: brian jardine To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Broadhead to Oshkosh Group, I am planning a cross-country trip (driving) from Utah to Broadhead, and then on to Air Adventure at Oshkosh. I am bringing my 3 young boys, 12, 9, and 5. I hope to give them a good dose of Piet exposure. Does anyone have any recommendations for camping at Broadhead, and campgrounds near Oshkosh? I have looked at the Air Adventure planning on their website, but not familiar with the area, I don't know which sites are better than others. I'm sure reservations fill up fast. Hopefully something with fishing close by, to entertain the boys in the evening. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks. Brian Clinton, UT


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    Time: 07:32:44 PM PST US
    From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: ELT and booster seats
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> Yes indeed, the ELT in 41CC went off when it nosed over. No emergency response that I know of, not even a phone call, and we tested the ELT to see if the signal was going out... it was, even a day after the event and the ELT going all that time. Of course, after the first 4 to 6 hours the airplane was inside a metal hangar so little or no signal would have gone out, but it did trigger and transmit. And Mike, pay attention: in accordance with the FARs, since the ELT went off, I have now replaced the battery on the unit with a new one. Good for 24 more months or the next event that triggers it, whichever comes first ;o) Second part of my post has to do with booster seats for small passengers. Seeing the picture of Don's airplane with youngsters all over it reminded me that I need to prepare something for our 5-year-old grandson's first airplane ride in 41CC. He is just about the same size as the lad in the front cockpit of Don's Piet so I figure I'll make something with about 4" of lift that secures in the front 'pit with Velcro the same as the present front seat (upholstered piece of 1/4" ply). I'll use several layers of very firm foam as a build-up, then a cushy top layer and naugahyde over that, with a piece of ply as the base of course. While it is possible for a short passenger to see out the sides without a booster, it would be better if they could sit a bit higher and I believe the shoulder strap would be more effective that way too. Anybody else have any experience with booster seats or cushions? Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net




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