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1. 02:34 AM - Re: Flying NX899DE (walt evans)
2. 04:26 AM - Re: Flying NX899DE (DGflyer)
3. 04:35 AM - Liability (Tim)
4. 04:58 AM - Re: Re: new guy again (Phillips, Jack)
5. 05:55 AM - flying NX899DE (Oscar Zuniga)
6. 06:07 AM - Re: Liability (dmott9@aol.com)
7. 07:06 AM - Re: Re: new guy again (Jack T. Textor)
8. 07:08 AM - Re: Flying NX899DE (Glenn Thomas)
9. 07:10 AM - Don E's Airplane--from Ohio (Michael D Cuy)
10. 07:20 AM - Re: Don E's Airplane--from Ohio (Phillips, Jack)
11. 07:39 AM - Re: Flying NX899DE (Hans Vander Voort)
12. 07:39 AM - Re: Liability (R Matt Doody)
13. 08:33 AM - Re: Liability (Rob Stapleton)
14. 08:44 AM - giving back (Michael D Cuy)
15. 11:12 AM - ELT Frequency (Michael D Cuy)
16. 11:44 AM - Re: ELT Frequency (Phillips, Jack)
17. 11:50 AM - Re: ELT Frequency ()
18. 11:58 AM - Broadhead to Oshkosh (brian jardine)
19. 01:47 PM - Piet. 0-200 (Tim)
20. 04:07 PM - New Piet (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan))
21. 04:18 PM - Re: Don E's Airplane--from Ohio (DGflyer)
22. 05:43 PM - Pietenpol (R Matt Doody)
23. 06:45 PM - Re: Broadhead to Oshkosh (Dick Navratil)
24. 07:32 PM - ELT and booster seats (Oscar Zuniga)
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| Subject: | Re: Flying NX899DE |
Don,
GREAT! looking plane!!! Nice job.
Needs some kind of emblem on the side :
)
Good luck with it.
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: Rcaprd@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:17 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying NX899DE
In a message dated 4/23/2006 10:38:35 PM Central Standard Time, EmchAir@aol.com
writes:
Hi guys...
Sure Greg I can give a first flight report. I first flew it back in September.
I hadn't flown in a couple of years and had no tailwheel time. I thought
flying in a mixture of planes would help to learn new flying qualities. I got
some time in a Champ, Cub, T-Craft, and Citabria.
After those I started taxiing the Piet faster and faster until I was running
down the runway with the tail in the air. One evening I was doing this with
my wife and 3 kids at the airport with me. After one run I taxied over to my
wife and told her I felt pretty good with it. She was very supportive and said
'I think you're ready too'. I sat at the end of the runway flying the flight
in my head for the 1000th time! I firewalled it for the first time( all the
taxis were partial throttle) and wasn't sure this would be it until it was
trying to lift off the ground. It was a short flight, but all went well. It
was a fascinating mixture of exhilaration, adrenaline, excitement, and outright
fear! It is a very forgiving and gentle flying airplane though. The flight
went so well because of the design not the pilot!
Since then I've gotten to know it better. I absolutely love flying it! It
is very easy to land as long as you are straight at touchdown. If you aren't
that tall narrow gear will let you know! I really liked how the Cub flew, and
of the four it is the most similar. But I like how the Piet flies MUCH more!
Lots of fun!
Some specs are;
A-65 with 72 x 44 Hegy prop ( I'd like to find a 72 x 42 Falcon)
Split axle gear with 19" homemade hub wire wheels with go-cart brakes
4" homemade tailwheel on tail skid A- frame
14.5 gallon nose tank
Long fuselage
Sky Gypsy type cowl
Takeoff run lasts about 7 seconds
Cruise about 80mph (full throttle shows about 88mph, but the aiframe acts like
it doesn't like it there!)
I pirated a lot of ideas from other Piets at Brodhead and if there is anyway
I could help someone and return the favor please let me know! I put a picture
on the Frappr site;
http://www.frappr.com/?a=3Dphoto&gid=3D27292&pid=3D1831955&src=3Dflash_slideticker
Don Emch
NX899DE
Don,
Great report !!
Posts like this really offers a LOT of encouragement for all those folks out
there in the building stage and it's a great way to exchange thoughts about the
flying characteristics, too. What is your tach read at full power, level flight
? My plane also lets me know that she doesn't like those high speed, full
power runs !! It's like she tightens up, and buzzes at me !! Does your mechanical
tach have any error...checked possibly with an electronic tach ? Does
your airspeed have any error...have you checked with a GPS yet ? I suppose
there are lots of ways to calibrate ASI...like pace yourself with traffic, or
if you have good section lines to go by in your local terrain, do a timed one
mile straight, level flight, on each of the cardinal compass directions, then
average the time speeds and see how it compares with indicated speed. Also, I'm
curious as to what your oil temp indicates, and what the ambient temp was ?
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DGflyer" <EmchAir@aol.com>
I guess I should have said I'm 'indicating' about 80 mph. I haven't checked with
gps yet. I had a T-Craft along side me and after the flight he said he was
indicating around the same. That doesn't mean much though. When the airplane
is indicating anywhere in the 70 to 80 mph range it just seems to feel right,
it's like it 'likes it there'. The tach is a used one and I think I know why
it was removed from the last airplane. It reads low, about 1950rpm at that
80 mph. The airport owner, Forrest Barber, says he has an electronic tach for
me to check it with. Maybe next time out. This past week my oil temps seemed
to be in the 150 to 160 degree range at probably 60 degree ambient. One thing
I'm gonna try to change is the mags. I've got the pold lunch box Bendix mags.
Beautiful when there running. But without the impulses the kick backs at
startup are getting old! If anyone knows of a set of impulse mags, please let
me know.
Don Emch
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Tim <twilliams@mailmt.com>
Gentlemen, maybe someone can help with this question. I bought a
certified flying Piet. from the builder. I had to do a 'top end' on
it. I'm not an IA or an A&P. I'm thinking about selling the plane
and I've been told that without a 'sign off'. I'm liable for any
subsequent problems. I've been thinking about completely dismantling
the plane and selling it as junk. Any thoughts on this .
Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: new guy again |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
Hey Don,
Congratulations on the flight and the plane! I like your choice of
colors.
As Walt Evans is fond of saying, "Ain't life grand!"
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DGflyer
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 11:34 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: new guy again
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DGflyer" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Hi guys...
Sure Greg I can give a first flight report. I first flew it back in
September. I hadn't flown in a couple of years and had no tailwheel
time. I thought flying in a mixture of planes would help to learn new
flying qualities. I got some time in a Champ, Cub, T-Craft, and
Citabria.
After those I started taxiing the Piet faster and faster until I was
running down the runway with the tail in the air. One evening I was
doing this with my wife and 3 kids at the airport with me. After one
run I taxied over to my wife and told her I felt pretty good with it.
She was very supportive and said 'I think you're ready too'. I sat at
the end of the runway flying the flight in my head for the 1000th time!
I firewalled it for the first time( all the taxis were partial throttle)
and wasn't sure this would be it until it was trying to lift off the
ground. It was a short flight, but all went well. It was a fascinating
mixture of exhilaration, adrenaline, excitement, and outright fear! It
is a very forgiving and gentle flying airplane though. The flight went
so well because of the design not the pilot!
Since then I've gotten to know it better. I absolutely love flying it!
It is very easy to land as long as you are straight at touchdown. If
you aren't that tall narrow gear will let you know! I really liked how
the Cub flew, and of the four it is the most similar. But I like how
the Piet flies MUCH more! Lots of fun!
Some specs are;
A-65 with 72 x 44 Hegy prop ( I'd like to find a 72 x 42 Falcon)
Split axle gear with 19" homemade hub wire wheels with go-cart brakes
4" homemade tailwheel on tail skid A- frame
14.5 gallon nose tank
Long fuselage
Sky Gypsy type cowl
Takeoff run lasts about 7 seconds
Cruise about 80mph (full throttle shows about 88mph, but the aiframe
acts like it doesn't like it there!)
I pirated a lot of ideas from other Piets at Brodhead and if there is
anyway I could help someone and return the favor please let me know! I
put a picture on the Frappr site;
http://www.frappr.com/?a=photo&gid=27292&pid=1831955&src=flash_slidetick
er
Don Emch
NX899DE
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=30276#30276
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Folks, if you haven't taken a look at Don's airplane, at
http://www.frappr.com/?a=photo&gid=27292&pid=1831955&src=flash_slideticker ,
go there now and take a look. Do not pass "GO", do not collect $200...!!
What a beauty! And the photo pose is just classic Pietenpol.
I have a new screen saver...
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dmott9@aol.com
My thoughts would be to pull the engine, sell it separate from the
airframe, and let the buyer of the airframe choose and install their
own engine. Does it have a A-65 ? Maybe someone has a ready to go
Corvair they are itching at getting in the air.
DMflyer
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim <twilliams@mailmt.com>
Sent: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 07:34:26 -0400
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Liability
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Tim <twilliams@mailmt.com>
Gentlemen, maybe someone can help with this question. I bought a
certified flying Piet. from the builder. I had to do a 'top end' on it.
I'm not an IA or an A&P. I'm thinking about selling the plane and I've
been told that without a 'sign off'. I'm liable for any subsequent
problems. I've been thinking about completely dismantling the plane and
selling it as junk. Any thoughts on this .
Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: new guy again |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
Don,
Beautiful kids....plane too!
Jack Textor
Hi guys...
Sure Greg I can give a first flight report. I first flew it back in
September. I hadn't flown in a couple of years and had no tailwheel
time. I thought flying in a mixture of planes would help to learn new
flying qualities. I got some time in a Champ, Cub, T-Craft, and
Citabria.
After those I started taxiing the Piet faster and faster until I was
running down the runway with the tail in the air. One evening I was
doing this with my wife and 3 kids at the airport with me. After one
run I taxied over to my wife and told her I felt pretty good with it.
She was very supportive and said 'I think you're ready too'. I sat at
the end of the runway flying the flight in my head for the 1000th time!
I firewalled it for the first time( all the taxis were partial throttle)
and wasn't sure this would be it until it was trying to lift off the
ground. It was a short flight, but all went well. It was a fascinating
mixture of exhilaration, adrenaline, excitement, and outright fear! It
is a very forgiving and gentle flying airplane though. The flight went
so well because of the design not the pilot!
Since then I've gotten to know it better. I absolutely love flying it!
It is very easy to land as long as you are straight at touchdown. If
you aren't that tall narrow gear will let you know! I really liked how
the Cub flew, and of the four it is the most similar. But I like how
the Piet flies MUCH more! Lots of fun!
Some specs are;
A-65 with 72 x 44 Hegy prop ( I'd like to find a 72 x 42 Falcon)
Split axle gear with 19" homemade hub wire wheels with go-cart brakes
4" homemade tailwheel on tail skid A- frame
14.5 gallon nose tank
Long fuselage
Sky Gypsy type cowl
Takeoff run lasts about 7 seconds
Cruise about 80mph (full throttle shows about 88mph, but the aiframe
acts like it doesn't like it there!)
I pirated a lot of ideas from other Piets at Brodhead and if there is
anyway I could help someone and return the favor please let me know! I
put a picture on the Frappr site;
http://www.frappr.com/?a=photo&gid=27292&pid=1831955&src=flash_slidetick
er
Don Emch
NX899DE
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=30276#30276
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
Like Chuck said,
Us new builders eat that stuff up! I still sit and think about what it will be
like taxing down the runway and then taking off and my wheels in the air with
nobody but me to get them back on the ground again. I will do everything I can
to prep myself for that day but I still I can vividly imaging the exhileration
and fear of that momentus occasion.
You have achieved the period look of the plane and did a fantastic job. You first
flight report was probably the best post I've read since I started this project.
Really gets you going!!!
Thanks
--------
Glenn Thomas
N?????
http://www.flyingwood.com
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| Subject: | Don E's Airplane--from Ohio |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Group-- I've had the pleasure of meeting Don over the years at various
fly-in's and he has really stuck with the
project thru many life events and construction growing pains along the
way. I've seen the airplane in person as well
and it is every bit as beautiful as the photo--and then
some. Congratulations Don----a lifelong dream come true.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Don E's Airplane--from Ohio |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
>From the photo, it appears that another really fine Pietenpol has been
built. I think this whole group owes a debt of gratitude to Mike Cuy
and Chuck Gantzer for the video materials they have produced and the
countless emails and other advising they have given that contribute to
increasingly better Pietenpols being built.
It is important that those of us who have followed them continue to pass
along the knowledge we have learned to those who are now building. I
know my plane would be much lower quality without all the help I got
from Mike as I was building.
Congrats again, Don, on a fine looking Pietenpol. I wish I could go to
Brodhead this yer to see it in person.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
D Cuy
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:10 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Don E's Airplane--from Ohio
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Group-- I've had the pleasure of meeting Don over the years at various
fly-in's and he has really stuck with the
project thru many life events and construction growing pains along the
way. I've seen the airplane in person as well
and it is every bit as beautiful as the photo--and then
some. Congratulations Don----a lifelong dream come true.
Mike C.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Hans Vander Voort <hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com>
Nice plane, Don.
I noticed this must be the first three seat Pietenpol.
Have fun with it and many safe flights.
Hans
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Tim,
I'm an A&P where is your airplane located? Would you consider selling complete?
Matt
Tim <twilliams@mailmt.com> wrote:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Tim
Gentlemen, maybe someone can help with this question. I bought a
certified flying Piet. from the builder. I had to do a 'top end' on
it. I'm not an IA or an A&P. I'm thinking about selling the plane
and I've been told that without a 'sign off'. I'm liable for any
subsequent problems. I've been thinking about completely dismantling
the plane and selling it as junk. Any thoughts on this .
Thanks
---------------------------------
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Rob Stapleton" <foto@alaska.net>
Well just have an A&P look it over and sign off on it. If you decide to part
it up, send up this way to Alaska, I could use the extra parts.... You will
have no liability with it then! Ha.
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 3:34 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Liability
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Tim <twilliams@mailmt.com>
Gentlemen, maybe someone can help with this question. I bought a
certified flying Piet. from the builder. I had to do a 'top end' on
it. I'm not an IA or an A&P. I'm thinking about selling the plane
and I've been told that without a 'sign off'. I'm liable for any
subsequent problems. I've been thinking about completely dismantling
the plane and selling it as junk. Any thoughts on this .
Thanks
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
I appreciate Jack's good words and can only reflect back that those who
built before me helped me so
much with ideas and dilemma's that I felt it was only right to help others
coming into the building phase after me.
I took notes, measurements, photos, and video up at Brodhead for a few
years before I even began cutting wood
and to those builders I owe a big thank you for how they helped me along
when I needed it.
The gem in all of this Pietenpol stuff are the friends we have made and
will make along the way. In retrospect
the friendships are just the best--- other guys who just love the same kind
of things plus each is unique--some are
attorneys, some are corporate pilots, others student pilots, college
students, retired WWII veterans, Corvair experts,
dentists, factory workers, technicians, artists, sculptors, engineers,
publishers, mechanics, airline pilots, military
pilots or former veterans, construction and trades people, low time, high
time, and no time pilots, some who smoke,
some who don't, a guy named Javier who flies for the government of Mexico,
judges, guys with great senses of humor,
some who are into other things that just amaze us and intrigue us. All
just a neat group of folks. ......just a real diverse group.
The creativeness of scratch/plans builders always impresses me. After you
think there are about 6 ways to do a job you
hear some guys idea from Peoria who comes up with a 7th way that is much
easier and weighs less ! Impressive people on
the list who are just everyday Joe's in most ways otherwise.
Mike C.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Oh yes, Oscar---- what I've been doing is holding off on buying an ELT
until the new frequency units become available. (yeah right !)
I probably should carry one, but figure they will just follow where the
smoke is coming from. (hopefully never will happen !)
Mike C.
do not archive
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
Oscar, weren't you the one talking about how when NX41CC went down the
ELT was set off and nobody ever responded to it?
Jack Phillips
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
D Cuy
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:11 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: ELT Frequency
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Oh yes, Oscar---- what I've been doing is holding off on buying an ELT
until the new frequency units become available. (yeah right !)
I probably should carry one, but figure they will just follow where the
smoke is coming from. (hopefully never will happen !)
Mike C.
do not archive
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
The chances of an ELT being operational after a crash is unlikely at
best.As we say in the ultralight world;just do a controlled crash and
walk away and don't land in swamp.;-)
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Phillips, Jack
Sent: April 24, 2006 2:43 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: ELT Frequency
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack"
<Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
Oscar, weren't you the one talking about how when NX41CC went down the
ELT was set off and nobody ever responded to it?
Jack Phillips
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
D Cuy
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:11 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: ELT Frequency
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Oh yes, Oscar---- what I've been doing is holding off on buying an ELT
until the new frequency units become available. (yeah right !)
I probably should carry one, but figure they will just follow where the
smoke is coming from. (hopefully never will happen !)
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Broadhead to Oshkosh |
Group,
I am planning a cross-country trip (driving) from Utah to Broadhead, and then
on to Air Adventure at Oshkosh. I am bringing my 3 young boys, 12, 9, and 5.
I hope to give them a good dose of Piet exposure. Does anyone have any recommendations
for camping at Broadhead, and campgrounds near Oshkosh? I have looked
at the Air Adventure planning on their website, but not familiar with the area,
I don't know which sites are better than others. I'm sure reservations fill
up fast. Hopefully something with fishing close by, to entertain the boys in
the evening. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks.
Brian
Clinton, UT
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Tim <twilliams@mailmt.com>
After 3 engine failures with a model A engine the builder installed a
Cont. 0-200. After I/we did the 'top end' a friend flew it for a
total of 3 hours with no problems. Sounds real good now.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
Don E said "I haven't checked my speed with a GPS yet...." Another way
to check your ground speed is by timing your movement across a mile,
then dividing your no. of seconds by 3600. That is your ground speed.
Pick a wind free time to do this. In Kansas where the ground is laid out
in sq. mile checker boards you can time your self going all 4
directions, add the 4 totals, than divide by 4 to get an average in all
directions. This averages out the wind. (I hope that made sense)
Beautiful Piet Don. Camping at Brodhed is easy. There are showers. Just
put $10 in the kitty, and get a Brodhead 06 button. It off sets costs to
the EAA ch. that throws the party. Oshkosh is about the same but they
charge for the camping. The public showers are degrading, but if you are
worried about your looks, don't. There is always someone there that
looks worse than you. See you at Brodhead. Leon S. feeling better about
muself already
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| Subject: | Re: Don E's Airplane--from Ohio |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "DGflyer" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Thanks guys for all the nice comments. The neat thing about building from plans
is that you can use ideas from others and create your own blend to build what
you like. I really tried to stick to the plans as much as possible, but other
small variations like tailwheel, cowl, fuel tank, etc. came from others. I
don't think any of the variations I can claim as strictly my own idea. After
a decade of attending Brodhead you really do get a good sampling of ideas! I
really don't think I could have built it without seeing other airplanes. I have
also checked the list archives for ideas for the last couple of years and
thought I better try to get a little more involved on here. So thanks to all
of the people that have helped me out whether they know it or not!
Walt I've spent the last 10 years trying to come up a design/logo for the fuselage
side. I guess I'm just not very creative there! Maybe I can get a sponsor...?!
By the way normal people don't spend a decade getting one of these in
the air. But life and hangar collapses do happen!
Don Emch
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=30427#30427
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I have noticed Chris Cummin's Pietenpol on Frappr Groups and it appears to have
some unique features. From what I can tell in the picture it has dihedral, out
ward canted cabanes and steel empennage. I would like to learn more about this
unique Piet?
Matt
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| Subject: | Re: Broadhead to Oshkosh |
Brian
Camping is right on the field at Broadhead. If you get there early you can get
a spot under the trees if tenting. We just put up the tents under the wing of
the plane. It's a short ride into town.
At OSH the campgrounds are massive. There will be room. If you have room, bring
bikes for the trip in and out. If you are refering to private campgrounds,
there are some in the area but I don't know them.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: brian jardine
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 1:57 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Broadhead to Oshkosh
Group,
I am planning a cross-country trip (driving) from Utah to Broadhead, and then
on to Air Adventure at Oshkosh. I am bringing my 3 young boys, 12, 9, and 5.
I hope to give them a good dose of Piet exposure. Does anyone have any recommendations
for camping at Broadhead, and campgrounds near Oshkosh? I have looked
at the Air Adventure planning on their website, but not familiar with the area,
I don't know which sites are better than others. I'm sure reservations fill
up fast. Hopefully something with fishing close by, to entertain the boys in
the evening. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks.
Brian
Clinton, UT
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| Subject: | ELT and booster seats |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Yes indeed, the ELT in 41CC went off when it nosed over. No emergency
response that I know of, not even a phone call, and we tested the ELT to see
if the signal was going out... it was, even a day after the event and the
ELT going all that time. Of course, after the first 4 to 6 hours the
airplane was inside a metal hangar so little or no signal would have gone
out, but it did trigger and transmit. And Mike, pay attention: in
accordance with the FARs, since the ELT went off, I have now replaced the
battery on the unit with a new one. Good for 24 more months or the next
event that triggers it, whichever comes first ;o)
Second part of my post has to do with booster seats for small passengers.
Seeing the picture of Don's airplane with youngsters all over it reminded me
that I need to prepare something for our 5-year-old grandson's first
airplane ride in 41CC. He is just about the same size as the lad in the
front cockpit of Don's Piet so I figure I'll make something with about 4" of
lift that secures in the front 'pit with Velcro the same as the present
front seat (upholstered piece of 1/4" ply). I'll use several layers of very
firm foam as a build-up, then a cushy top layer and naugahyde over that,
with a piece of ply as the base of course. While it is possible for a short
passenger to see out the sides without a booster, it would be better if they
could sit a bit higher and I believe the shoulder strap would be more
effective that way too. Anybody else have any experience with booster seats
or cushions?
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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