Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:40 AM - Re: spoked wheels (Phillips, Jack)
2. 05:26 AM - Re: spoked wheels (Jim Markle)
3. 06:47 AM - Re: Re: Brakes (walt evans)
4. 08:13 AM - NX311CC (Isablcorky@aol.com)
5. 08:46 AM - Re: NX311CC (Bill Church)
6. 09:07 AM - Re: NX311CC (Isablcorky@aol.com)
7. 10:16 AM - Re: NX311CC (harvey rule)
8. 10:23 AM - tail wheel & spring (Arden Adamson)
9. 12:10 PM - spoked wheels (RBush96589@aol.com)
10. 12:35 PM - Re: Brakes (Don Emch)
11. 06:47 PM - Re: Re: Brakes (Dick Navratil)
12. 07:02 PM - prop trouble? (Dick Navratil)
13. 08:35 PM - Re: prop trouble? (Mike Whaley)
14. 09:18 PM - Re: Trim tab was pitch trim saved Sean Tucker's life (Graham Hansen)
15. 10:18 PM - Re: prop trouble? (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | RE: spoked wheels |
Hi Robert,
Here is the email that I originally sent Buchanan's. I just said it was
a replica of an antique. Didn't say antique "what".
-----Original Message-----
From: Phillips, Jack [mailto:jphillip@alarismed.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 6:31 AM
Subject: New Spokes
I have a pair of front wheels for a replica of an antique that I am
putting
together and need new spokes made and laced up. If I send you my new
hubs,
and the existing 3.00 x 21" rims that I have (36 spoke) how much would
you
charge to make new stainless steel spokes and lace and true the wheels
for
me? The new hubs are wider than the rims were originally used on, so I
might have to buy new aluminum rims from you, but hopefully you can use
them. How long should I expect it to take?
Please let me know and I will send them off to you.
Thank you,
Jack Phillips
-----Original Message-----
From: RBush96589@aol.com [mailto:RBush96589@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 7:28 PM
Subject: spoked wheels
hello group, this is for mike c. or jack phillips or for any one who
used buchanans spoke and wheel. i have my hubs turned and drilled and am
planning on buying my wheels and spokes from them. my question is. when
i call to tell them what i want to have done do i need to tell them
these are for something other than an airplane.seems like i heard
something about they would not build them for planes
thanks,Robert Bush
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| Subject: | RE: spoked wheels |
I sent this but not sure if it ever showed up on the list...if
so....ignore!
Anyway, a copy of my Buchanan's (and the tire company and the go cart
brake) invoices are scanned and stored over on www.mykitplane.com under
my files.
Jim Markle
----- Original Message -----
From: Phillips, Jack
To: RBush96589@aol.com ; Pietenpol-List
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 6:35 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: RE: spoked wheels
Hi Robert,
Here is the email that I originally sent Buchanan's. I just said it
was a replica of an antique. Didn't say antique "what".
-----Original Message-----
From: Phillips, Jack [mailto:jphillip@alarismed.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 6:31 AM
To: 'sales@buchananspokes.com'
Subject: New Spokes
I have a pair of front wheels for a replica of an antique that I am
putting
together and need new spokes made and laced up. If I send you my new
hubs,
and the existing 3.00 x 21" rims that I have (36 spoke) how much would
you
charge to make new stainless steel spokes and lace and true the wheels
for
me? The new hubs are wider than the rims were originally used on, so
I
might have to buy new aluminum rims from you, but hopefully you can
use
them. How long should I expect it to take?
Please let me know and I will send them off to you.
Thank you,
Jack Phillips
-----Original Message-----
From: RBush96589@aol.com [mailto:RBush96589@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 7:28 PM
To: pietenpollist@matronics.com
Subject: spoked wheels
hello group, this is for mike c. or jack phillips or for any one who
used buchanans spoke and wheel. i have my hubs turned and drilled and am
planning on buying my wheels and spokes from them. my question is. when
i call to tell them what i want to have done do i need to tell them
these are for something other than an airplane.seems like i heard
something about they would not build them for planes
thanks,Robert Bush
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privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have
received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete
the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited.
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Chris,
I used the same brakes with exactly the same operation. Enough to hold but
not enough to get into trouble. Used them just this morning for a beautiful
36f flight.I made up a heel pedal setup that works great too.
Open up the drums with my nifty little Harbor Freight tool lathe. Always
wanted one, and was not dissapointed with this one. Used it lots of times to
make wheel hubs, collars, blah, blah
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Catdesign" <catdesign@intergate.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brakes
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesign"
> <catdesign@intergate.com>
>
> Don,
>
> How did you enlarge the hole in the backing plates to fit over the axel
> and the hubs? How did you mount them? Pictures?
>
> Chris Tracy
> Sacramento, Ca
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:53 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brakes
>
>
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
>>
>> Hi Fred,
>>
>> I have 19" spoked wheels on mine. I use a 5" mechanical drum brake from
>> Kart World out of Cleveland, OH. The brakes are very simple and low
>> profile. They are cable actuated and are attached to hand levers under
>> the instument panel. The hand levers are just aftermarket motorcycle
>> handles from a local motorcycle shop. They are placed close enough
>> together that I can hold both of them at once for the run-up. They are
>> just enough to barely hold the run-up. Sometimes, by the time I finish
>> the run-up I've crept a foot or so. I can deal with that. The only
>> other time I use them is for taxiing. They seem to be okay for that. A
>> liitle planning ahead is a good idea too.
>>
>> Don Emch
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=30982#30982
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Pieters,
NX311CC ownership has been handed over to Tim Willis of this net. He
departed Corky's after much loading and huffin and puffin. He seems happy with
his
stuff. Corky is releived of this responsibility. More time available to spend
with his bride and sip julips like all elder southern gentlemen are suppose
to do. He has enjoyed the hobby for the last 6 yrs and especially the action
on this net. Building and flying your own airplane is more than a normal
college education. It would be hard to find an activity that required the personal
mechanical and technical skills and all other allied functions required to
complete an airplane. I would venture to guess that only about 5% who begin
ever complete and fly. Hope I'm wrong. I'll continue to monitor this series of
rare epistles but will try to refrain from clicking on the "write" icon. Just
remember one important thing:
Old Pieters never die
They just drip away
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Corky,
Please don't refrain from clicking on the "write" icon. Your having
completed one flying Pietenpol, (and were it not for bureaucratic red
tape, I am sure you would be piloting that same ship), and almost
completing a second, puts you in that "elite" 5%. The rest of us, who
aspire to join that 5% can only benefit from your sharing the
experiences that you had in achieving the completion of your plane(s).
While I am sure you will not likely have any further specific questions
about building, I am also sure that you would likely have answers for
those of us who have questions. So, if you do have anything to add to
the conversations, please chime in.
And besides, whenever I check my e-mail and see a message posted to the
Pietenpol List from Isablcorky(at)aol.com, I know I'm probably gonna be
laughing in a minute - you're a pretty funny guy.
Bill C
(a Canuck... which probably puts me one notch below a Yankee)
do not archive
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Isablcorky@aol.com
Sent: April 27, 2006 11:16 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX311CC
Pieters,
NX311CC ownership has been handed over to Tim Willis of this net. He
departed Corky's after much loading and huffin and puffin. He seems
happy with his stuff. Corky is releived of this responsibility. More
time available to spend with his bride and sip julips like all elder
southern gentlemen are suppose to do. He has enjoyed the hobby for the
last 6 yrs and especially the action on this net. Building and flying
your own airplane is more than a normal college education. It would be
hard to find an activity that required the personal mechanical and
technical skills and all other allied functions required to complete an
airplane. I would venture to guess that only about 5% who begin ever
complete and fly. Hope I'm wrong. I'll continue to monitor this series
of rare epistles but will try to refrain from clicking on the "write"
icon. Just remember one important thing:
Old Pieters never die
They just drip away
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Bill,
Thanks for your nice letter. Let me correct one thing: The bureaus didn't
stop me from flying 41CC, I flew hell out of it. However, I think at my age
that I enjoyed building more than flying so that's when I began 311CC and Oscar
had asked for 41CC.
Corky
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I say Amen to that;from another crazy Canook!
Bill Church wrote:
>
> Corky,
> Please don't refrain from clicking on the "write" icon. Your having
> completed one flying Pietenpol, (and were it not for bureaucratic red
> tape, I am sure you would be piloting that same ship), and almost
> completing a second, puts you in that "elite" 5%. The rest of us, who
> aspire to join that 5% can only benefit from your sharing the
> experiences that you had in achieving the completion of your plane(s).
> While I am sure you will not likely have any further specific
> questions about building, I am also sure that you would likely have
> answers for those of us who have questions. So, if you do have
> anything to add to the conversations, please chime in.
> And besides, whenever I check my e-mail and see a message posted to
> the Pietenpol List from Isablcorky(at)aol.com, I know I'm probably
> gonna be laughing in a minute - you're a pretty funny guy.
> Bill C
> (a Canuck... which probably puts me one notch below a Yankee)
> do not archive
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Isablcorky@aol.com
> Sent: April 27, 2006 11:16 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX311CC
>
> Pieters, NX311CC ownership has been handed over to Tim Willis of this
> net. He departed Corky's after much loading and huffin and puffin. He
> seems happy with his stuff. Corky is releived of this responsibility.
> More time available to spend with his bride and sip julips like all
> elder southern gentlemen are suppose to do. He has enjoyed the hobby
> for the last 6 yrs and especially the action on this net. Building and
> flying your own airplane is more than a normal college education. It
> would be hard to find an activity that required the personal
> mechanical and technical skills and all other allied functions
> required to complete an airplane. I would venture to guess that only
> about 5% who begin ever complete and fly. Hope I'm wrong. I'll
> continue to monitor this series of rare epistles but will try to
> refrain from clicking on the "write" icon. Just remember one important
> thing:
> Old Pieters never die
> They just drip away
>
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| Subject: | tail wheel & spring |
Thanks guys for the suggestions. This Piet-list is a great thing.
Arden Adamson
Waupaca, WI
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Thanks Jim,Jack, and Larry for the info on Buchanans.
Thanks,
Robert Bush
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Chris,
Mine look exactly like Walts! If I remember correctly the hole dia. was about
5/8". I am Tool and Die Maker by trade so there are a lot of things on the plane
that were made or modified on the lathe. When I made those though I was laid
off and didn't have access to a lathe so I put the on my drill press at home
clamped them down really tight said a little prayer and open them up with the
right size hole saw. Finshed 'em off with some filing.
Don Emch
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=31179#31179
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
Don
I bought my Wildwood hyd brake calipers from Kart World also. Unfortunatly
they are now out of business.
I have been searching for someplace else for parts, when I need them.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 8:53 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brakes
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
>
> Hi Fred,
>
> I have 19" spoked wheels on mine. I use a 5" mechanical drum brake from
> Kart World out of Cleveland, OH. The brakes are very simple and low
> profile. They are cable actuated and are attached to hand levers under
> the instument panel. The hand levers are just aftermarket motorcycle
> handles from a local motorcycle shop. They are placed close enough
> together that I can hold both of them at once for the run-up. They are
> just enough to barely hold the run-up. Sometimes, by the time I finish
> the run-up I've crept a foot or so. I can deal with that. The only other
> time I use them is for taxiing. They seem to be okay for that. A liitle
> planning ahead is a good idea too.
>
> Don Emch
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=30982#30982
>
>
>
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Some friends stopped by the hangar and we fired up the new engine. It's
running in this pic. Looks like I've got some trouble. The pic was
taken on a camera phone. The prop is just fine. Strange illusion.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: prop trouble? |
Dick, send that into AvWeb's picture of the week... that prop illusion
looks pretty wild. Might win a hat.
-M
Mike Whaley merlin@ov-10bronco.net
Webmaster, OV-10 Bronco Association
http://www.ov-10bronco.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Navratil
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 10:01 PM
Subject: [piet] Pietenpol-List: prop trouble?
Some friends stopped by the hangar and we fired up the new engine.
It's running in this pic. Looks like I've got some trouble. The pic
was taken on a camera phone. The prop is just fine. Strange illusion.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: Trim tab was pitch trim saved Sean Tucker's life |
I use two ground-adjustable aluminum tabs on the elevators of my
Pietenpol. They are fastened to the underside of the trailing edge with
a couple of screws and zinc chromate putty (as used in aircraft floats)
is used to seal the screw holes against moisture entry.
These tabs are adjusted to trim for level cruising flight when the
forward fuselage fuel tank is 1/2 to 2/3 full. With a full tank, the
plane is nose-heavy and I trim by increasing power. As the fuel burns
off (and the a/c becomes lighter), I reduce power as required to trim
for level flight.
This works quite well, but I really would like to have a controllable
elevator trim tab as a backup in case of elevator control failure. Years
ago, I planned to incorporate one but never got around to doing so. I
have flown a Piet with such a system and it worked very well. The trim
tab was on one elevator only, and was added after the aircraft had been
flown for several years.
Graham Hansen Pietenpol CF-AUN
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| Subject: | Re: prop trouble? |
Hey, I got a couple like that too!
http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID=3D28
They were taken with my old, cheap digital.
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Navratil
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:01 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: prop trouble?
Some friends stopped by the hangar and we fired up the new engine.
It's running in this pic. Looks like I've got some trouble. The pic
was taken on a camera phone. The prop is just fine. Strange illusion.
Dick N.
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