Today's Message Index:
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1. 03:47 AM - Tailwheel design (Don Emch)
2. 04:06 AM - Re: prop trouble? (harvey rule)
3. 04:23 AM - Re: prop trouble? (Phillips, Jack)
4. 06:12 AM - Tools (Glenn Thomas)
5. 06:27 AM - Dick N. engine---How Sweet The Sound (Michael D Cuy)
6. 08:07 AM - Re: Tools (Barry Davis)
7. 08:23 AM - Re: Tools (Catdesign)
8. 08:30 AM - Re: Tools (Phillips, Jack)
9. 09:00 AM - Re: Tools (Glenn Thomas)
10. 09:08 AM - Re: Tools (Bill Church)
11. 09:18 AM - Tool Essentials-- used refrigerator (Michael D Cuy)
12. 09:22 AM - ear protection (Michael D Cuy)
13. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: Tools (Alan Lyscars)
14. 09:27 AM - Re: Tool Essentials-- used refrigerator ()
15. 09:27 AM - a serious post about cutting 4130 sheet (Michael D Cuy)
16. 09:36 AM - what holds up a project (Michael D Cuy)
17. 09:53 AM - Re: a serious post about cutting 4130 sheet (Isablcorky@aol.com)
18. 09:58 AM - Gas Tank Location (Egan, John)
19. 10:03 AM - Re: Tool Essentials-- used refrigerator (Rob Stapleton)
20. 10:30 AM - Re: Re: Tools (Phillips, Jack)
21. 10:30 AM - Re: Tools (Glenn Thomas)
22. 10:39 AM - Re: Tool Essentials-- used refrigerator (Ken)
23. 10:46 AM - Re: what holds up a project ()
24. 10:46 AM - Re: Tools (Glenn Thomas)
25. 10:57 AM - Re: Re: Tools (Phillips, Jack)
26. 12:01 PM - Re: what holds up a project (Glenn Thomas)
27. 12:19 PM - Re: Re: what holds up a project ()
28. 12:38 PM - Re: Gas Tank Location (walt evans)
29. 03:31 PM - Re: Dick N. engine---How Sweet The Sound (gcardinal)
30. 03:52 PM - Re: what holds up a project (Rick Holland)
31. 03:52 PM - Re: Dick N. engine---How Sweet The Sound (Rick Holland)
32. 03:58 PM - off topic but really interesting for you radial guys (walt evans)
33. 05:50 PM - Re: a serious post about cutting 4130 sheet (PIETLARS29@wmconnect.com)
34. 06:00 PM - Re: Don E's Airplane--from Ohio Don E's Airplane--from Ohio (Tom Stinemetze)
35. 07:03 PM - more prop trouble? (Dick Navratil)
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| Subject: | Tailwheel design |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Chris,
My tailwheel design is fairly simple but a picture would help much better than
trying to explain. I'm headed to the airport in the morning so I'll get some
pictures and post them. It may not be the best idea out there but seems to be
working.
Don Emch
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| Subject: | Re: prop trouble? |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: harvey rule <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
Wow!That's really weird.
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Dick Navratil wrote:
> Some friends stopped by the hangar and we fired up the new engine.
> It's running in this pic. Looks like I've got some trouble. The pic
> was taken on a camera phone. The prop is just fine. Strange
> illusion.Dick N.
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Cool Engine! Weird prop.
Jack Phillips
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick
Navratil
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 10:01 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: prop trouble?
Some friends stopped by the hangar and we fired up the new engine. It's
running in this pic. Looks like I've got some trouble. The pic was
taken on a camera phone. The prop is just fine. Strange illusion.
Dick N.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
I'm thinking about getting a shop press. Seems like it would be a handy item
for the metal work. What's the best size to get for a Piet project?
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Glenn Thomas
N?????
http://www.flyingwood.com
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| Subject: | Dick N. engine---How Sweet The Sound |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Dick--- that engine must sound sweeeeeet !
Congratulations. You will be a show-stopper with that plane no matter
where you stop. That is a PERFECT engine for a Piet.
Brats-n-Beers to you.
Mike C.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
Don't think we ever used one on our 6 Piets. Now... the tabletop belt sander
is another story... used for wood or steel it is the most used tool in our
shop, sometimes you have to wait in line to use it.
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:10 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tools
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas"
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> I'm thinking about getting a shop press. Seems like it would be a handy
> item for the metal work. What's the best size to get for a Piet project?
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> Glenn Thomas
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesign" <catdesign@intergate.com>
I agree the table top belt sander is a must have item in my shop.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
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From: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tools
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
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> Don't think we ever used one on our 6 Piets. Now... the tabletop belt
> sander is another story... used for wood or steel it is the most used tool
> in our shop, sometimes you have to wait in line to use it.
> Barry
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> From: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:10 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tools
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
That, the wood-cutting bandsaw, the metal-cutting bandsaw, and the drill
press
Jack Phillips
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Catdesign
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tools
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesign"
<catdesign@intergate.com>
I agree the table top belt sander is a must have item in my shop.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tools
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Barry Davis"
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> Don't think we ever used one on our 6 Piets. Now... the tabletop belt
> sander is another story... used for wood or steel it is the most used
tool
> in our shop, sometimes you have to wait in line to use it.
> Barry
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> From: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:10 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tools
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project?
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
So, I take it, that all the bending can simply be done with a vise? I thought
a press and a die would be necessary to get good clean bends in control horns,
fittings, etc. I guess I can save the money (and shop space).
Thanks!
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N?????
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Glenn,
Are you talking about a hydraulic shop press? Something like this?
(attached photo)...
Not too sure how handy it would be for this project.
Unless you have access to a metal shop with shear, brake press, punch
press, notcher, etc (like some of us are fortunate enough to have), I
think the most useful metal working tools for building a Piet would be:
1. a metal cutting bandsaw
2. a drill press
3. a 4" angle grinder - with sanding discs and cut-off wheels
(attached photo)
4. a good big vise with some metal bending dies (see this link)
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=3D2&p=3D32011&cat=3D1,43456,434=
07
5. and the bench mount belt/disc sander mentioned by others
Most of the bending on the Piet is narrow strips (or very light gauge
stuff), so the vise-mounted dies should be adequate. So, unless you have
other, non-Piet uses for a shop press, I would spend my money in other
areas.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Tool Essentials-- used refrigerator |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
In addition to the excellent suggestions already posted, one should have a
used beer/soda fridge nearby the
project work area, working portable tv, and a phone line that has been cut
and tied off inside a wall, stud, or
joist member.
Mike C.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
as a safety aspect of building a Pietenpol you must wear some sort of ear
protection when working
with noisy tools such as saws, belt sanders, routers, and drill motors. I
suggest ear muffs or ear
plugs with a minimum noise reduction rating (NRR) of 26 db. Should you
not answer a call downstairs
from your wife or kids or miss the phone ringing while you are in the
garage or shed, you can always show
up with that surprised look on your face and either (preferably have both)
your ear plugs strung around your
neck (gotta get the ones with the line that tie them together) and your ear
muffs atop your head, saying "huh ?"
Mike C.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alan Lyscars" <alyscars@maine.rr.com>
Glenn,
Me and my buddy Paul are just starting to work on the fittings of various
thickness 4130. Make a bending block per Tony Bengelis. That, and a
mallet, are all you need to cold-bend fittings (all the way up to .0125!).
Alan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:57 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tools
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas"
<glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
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> So, I take it, that all the bending can simply be done with a vise? I
thought a press and a die would be necessary to get good clean bends in
control horns, fittings, etc. I guess I can save the money (and shop
space).
>
> Thanks!
>
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> Glenn Thomas
> N?????
> http://www.flyingwood.com
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> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Tool Essentials-- used refrigerator |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
Ya right ,then I'm sure your going to get a lot done!
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
D Cuy
Sent: April 28, 2006 12:15 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tool Essentials-- used refrigerator
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
In addition to the excellent suggestions already posted, one should have
a
used beer/soda fridge nearby the
project work area, working portable tv, and a phone line that has been
cut
and tied off inside a wall, stud, or
joist member.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | a serious post about cutting 4130 sheet |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
If you can find a metal working shop near your house that can shear up some
strips of .060 and .090" thick 4130
sheet for you ( shear WITH the grain lettering for safe/good bends) of
various plans-required widths, you'll save so much hassle
from having to band saw them up, not to mention saving the price on what
Aircraft Spruce or others charge for 4130 strip material.
If you look at the plans you really only need about 3 or 4 various wide
strips of 4130 sheet material to build the entire airplane.
It is WORTH looking around for a shop near you who has a shear capable of
cutting .060 and .090 sheet !
Mike C.
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| Subject: | what holds up a project |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Harvey-- I built and flew my Pietenpol in 4.5 years WITH a fridge, TV, and
no phone turned on 97% of the time.
What would have held me up would have been a wife and kids, not the fridge !
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| Subject: | Re: a serious post about cutting 4130 sheet |
In a message dated 4/28/2006 11:28:19 A.M. Central Standard Time,
Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov writes:
from having to band saw them up, not to mention saving the price on what
Aircraft Spruce or others charge for 4130 strip material.
Wicks would always strip a sheet of 4130 18 in X 18 in to my specs without
any extra charge.
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| Subject: | Gas Tank Location |
Would any one like to comment on how low the bottom of the fuel tank
should be mounted (or their successful installation) in the nose area of
a Piet=3F I would like to start to mock up the fuel tank to be located in
the nose, supplying fuel to an updraft carb, mounted under a Corvair
engine. I will complete a flow test as discussed in previous valued
comments found in the archive.
Thanks all,
John (my two most used power tools were the band saw and the table top
sander)
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| Subject: | Tool Essentials-- used refrigerator |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Rob Stapleton" <foto@alaska.net>
In Alaska we just keep the beer outside the door, use wireless phones, and
listen to the radio because there is no TV without cable available anymore.
R Stapleton
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
harvey.rule@bell.ca
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:24 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Tool Essentials-- used refrigerator
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
Ya right ,then I'm sure your going to get a lot done!
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
D Cuy
Sent: April 28, 2006 12:15 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Tool Essentials-- used refrigerator
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
In addition to the excellent suggestions already posted, one should have
a
used beer/soda fridge nearby the
project work area, working portable tv, and a phone line that has been
cut
and tied off inside a wall, stud, or
joist member.
Mike C.
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
Glenn,
If you don't already have them, get Tony Bingelis' books (I thought I'd
say that before Mike Cuy did). I think the second one "Sportplane
Construction Techniques" is the one that shows step-by-step how to make
aircraft fittings.
All you need are a good vise, a good hammer (I used a 2-1/2 lb sledge)
and an "anvil" made from a piece of 1/4" steel with a variety of bend
radii ground onto its edges. It is helpful to have a metal cutting
bandsaw (I bought one from Grizzly for about $200 that worked great) and
I used the sanding disc on the side of my belt sander quite a bit, but
it is possible to do everything with handtools - hacksaw and a file.
Fittings seem to be a pain at first but by the time I finished building
the plane, the metal work and welding was my favorite part.
Jack Phillips
Hoping to fly NX899JP this weekend
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Glenn
Thomas
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:57 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tools
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas"
<glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
So, I take it, that all the bending can simply be done with a vise? I
thought a press and a die would be necessary to get good clean bends in
control horns, fittings, etc. I guess I can save the money (and shop
space).
Thanks!
--------
Glenn Thomas
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
I went to the Lee Valley site and added a few things (including the vise dies)
to my wish list. Thanks again Bill.
I've been going through one of the Tony Bengelis books but haven't hit that topic
yet. I'll look for it tonight. Thanks Alan.
Actually thanks to all. When it comes to tools it's easy to get carried away!
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Glenn Thomas
N?????
http://www.flyingwood.com
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| Subject: | Re: Tool Essentials-- used refrigerator |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ken <av8orken@adelphia.net>
beer fridge I have
portable tv I have but it only picks up snow
why do you need the phone line if it has been cut
Michael D Cuy wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
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> project work area, working portable tv, and a phone line that has been
> cut and tied off inside a wall, stud, or
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| Subject: | what holds up a project |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
Amen to that!
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
D Cuy
Sent: April 28, 2006 12:33 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: what holds up a project
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
<Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Harvey-- I built and flew my Pietenpol in 4.5 years WITH a fridge, TV,
and
no phone turned on 97% of the time.
What would have held me up would have been a wife and kids, not the
fridge !
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
Thanks Jack,
I've got the four books but I've been reading the Sportplane Builder as my last
bit of Piet activity every night before I hit the sack. It seemed like the logical
first book to read. I have a long flight to Asia in a couple weeks so
I'll bring all 4 of them and see how far I get. Will definitely hit the Sportplane
Construction Techniques tonight. I'm working on the ribs still, but want
to order my metal so I can get started on the wing metal parts soon. This
will align me for completing the wing project this summer (hopefully).
Thanks
--------
Glenn Thomas
N?????
http://www.flyingwood.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=31408#31408
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
Another book that is useful is the EAA's Aircraft Welding book. There
is a one-page article in it written by (who else?) Tony Bingelis in
which he explains how to make the flared ends on tubing that are used in
a number of places on the Pietenpol, such as the spreader bar on solid
axle landing gear, and the pushrod that goes between the joysticks on
the torque tube. I used this technique on my jury struts as well as the
pushrods I used to connect my front rudder pedals to the rudder bar (so
I didn't have to use return springs), and the pushrod connecting the
front and rear throttles.
Jack Phillips
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Glenn
Thomas
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 1:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tools
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas"
<glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
Thanks Jack,
I've got the four books but I've been reading the Sportplane Builder as
my last bit of Piet activity every night before I hit the sack. It
seemed like the logical first book to read. I have a long flight to
Asia in a couple weeks so I'll bring all 4 of them and see how far I
get. Will definitely hit the Sportplane Construction Techniques
tonight. I'm working on the ribs still, but want to order my metal so I
can get started on the wing metal parts soon. This will align me for
completing the wing project this summer (hopefully).
Thanks
--------
Glenn Thomas
N?????
http://www.flyingwood.com
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=31408#31408
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| Subject: | Re: what holds up a project |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
I hear that! I basically work on the project on weekends. To justify a solid
day of the weekend on the Piet, I feel an obligation to be a husband the other
day. (1 day a week!!!) Son is now in college so no hockey/lacrosse to cause
further time away from project. I have learned to tuck Piet time into free hour
blocks that are not consumed by other things. Early mornings (no power tools)
and late evenings are good quality Piet time. You will see shop lights on
well into the morning hours if I'm on a roll. Time mgmt is a bigger part of
this than I previously thought.
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Glenn Thomas
N?????
http://www.flyingwood.com
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| Subject: | Re: what holds up a project |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
I am so close to finishing ;it's driving me crazy.Everytime I turn
around these two AME's I got lookin after me find something else wrong
and I have to change something or fix something.I know they are lookin
out for me and it's all for the best but like I've said before,I'm no
builder and it's drivin me nuts!Soon to fly come hell or high water!
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Glenn
Thomas
Sent: April 28, 2006 3:00 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: what holds up a project
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Glenn Thomas"
<glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
I hear that! I basically work on the project on weekends. To justify a
solid day of the weekend on the Piet, I feel an obligation to be a
husband the other day. (1 day a week!!!) Son is now in college so no
hockey/lacrosse to cause further time away from project. I have learned
to tuck Piet time into free hour blocks that are not consumed by other
things. Early mornings (no power tools) and late evenings are good
quality Piet time. You will see shop lights on well into the morning
hours if I'm on a roll. Time mgmt is a bigger part of this than I
previously thought.
--------
Glenn Thomas
N?????
http://www.flyingwood.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=31427#31427
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| Subject: | Re: Gas Tank Location |
John,
My tank sits on the existing ply deck from the plans for the long
fuselage. My tank is 14 gallons, which is plenty big enough (with a 10
gal backup in the wing C/C).
Be careful going too low in the front, with more chance of fuel
starvation on climbout.
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: Egan, John
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:57 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gas Tank Location
Would any one like to comment on how low the bottom of the fuel tank
should be mounted (or their successful installation) in the nose area of
a Piet? I would like to start to mock up the fuel tank to be located in
the nose, supplying fuel to an updraft carb, mounted under a Corvair
engine. I will complete a flow test as discussed in previous valued
comments found in the archive.
Thanks all,
John (my two most used power tools were the band saw and the table top
sander)
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| Subject: | Re: Dick N. engine---How Sweet The Sound |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gcardinal" <gcardinal@mn.rr.com>
I was at Dick's hangar last week and heard the Rotec in operation. I can
verify that it does indeed sound sweet.
Greg C.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:26 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dick N. engine---How Sweet The Sound
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
> <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
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> Dick--- that engine must sound sweeeeeet !
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> Congratulations. You will be a show-stopper with that plane no matter
> where you stop. That is a PERFECT engine for a Piet.
> Brats-n-Beers to you.
>
> Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: what holds up a project |
In my case it would have depended on how much beer was in the fridge.
Rick H
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Rick Holland
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: Dick N. engine---How Sweet The Sound |
Congrats Dick, will love to see and hear it one of these days.
Rick H.
On 4/28/06, gcardinal <gcardinal@mn.rr.com> wrote:
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> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gcardinal" <gcardinal@mn.rr.com>
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> I was at Dick's hangar last week and heard the Rotec in operation. I can
> verify that it does indeed sound sweet.
>
> Greg C.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:26 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dick N. engine---How Sweet The Sound
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> > <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
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> > Dick--- that engine must sound sweeeeeet !
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> > Congratulations. You will be a show-stopper with that plane no matter
> > where you stop. That is a PERFECT engine for a Piet.
> > Brats-n-Beers to you.
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"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | off topic but really interesting for you radial guys |
Cc: "george alexander" <gtalexander@att.net>
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
neat site. and be sure to check out the video
walt evans
NX140DL
do not archive
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Cichocki" <djmc2@ptd.net>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:19 PM
Subject: stuff
>
> Hi Walt,
> Went and bought a 14" band saw from ENCO (Taiwan) thru the net.
> Has a 3/4 hp motor but it SFPM is way too fast so I'm in the
> process of reducing the speed with a jumble of pulleys. Should
> work OK.
> I stumbled upon a neat website. This guy built a 1/3 scale
> Le Rhone rotary engine that works! The Le Rhone was the engine
> on the original Nieuports. Check it out:
> http://modelrotaryflyer.tripod.com/index.htm
> See ya,
> Don
>
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| Subject: | Re: a serious post about cutting 4130 sheet |
RE: Wicks
I had the same excellent service from Wicks.
Lou Larsen
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| Subject: | Re: Don E's Airplane--from Ohio Don E's Airplane--from |
Ohio
Hear Hear! If I didn't have guys like Mike and Chuck to talk it over
with I would have quit long ago.
Tom Stinemetze
McPherson, KS
The Airplane Nut
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I think this whole group owes a debt of gratitude to Mike Cuy
and Chuck Gantzer for the video materials they have produced and
the
countless emails and other advising they have given that
contribute to
increasingly better Pietenpols being built.
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| Subject: | more prop trouble? |
My friend just forwarded an even weirder pic.
Dick N.
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