---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/16/06: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:10 AM - on a bender (Clif Dawson) 2. 04:00 AM - Re: BUILD TIME () 3. 05:52 AM - Corvair Core engines/ Corvair Wings & Wheels Fly-in - OHIO (Kip and Beth Gardner) 4. 10:32 AM - Re: Corvair Core engines (tmbrant1@netzero.com) 5. 10:37 AM - From Paul's Desk - Urbana Update (Michael D Cuy) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:10:51 AM PST US From: Clif Dawson Subject: Pietenpol-List: on a bender And yet another steam box; http://www.megspace.com/lifestyles/njmarine/Steam.html Clif ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:00:42 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: BUILD TIME From: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: That's too bad they ran out.Good to hear you are pressing on.It won't be long before you be up there harassing the world!;) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clif Dawson Sent: May 16, 2006 2:51 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BUILD TIME --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson That's where I go but they all are out of them at the same time. A couple of months ago three of them had lots of the things so I only bought the few I needed thinking they'd always be there. Ha! There are three coatings I know of , zinc, nickel and I forget the other one. With the tail parts on it struck me today that it now looks like a giant lawn dart!! I wonder how many rubber bands I'd need to launch it over the house into the front lawn. :-) :-) I have to stop thinking. This is what got Larry Walters in trouble. Besides, I don't have a pointy thing to put on the front of it. That's mine and I'm not going to part with it! Clif > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: > > I fould nico press sleeves at a boat equipment supplyer in town;have a > look around,they may be closer than you think.The ones they have are > copper with a coating on it that makes it look like aluminum but you can > tell that they are the right type because they are heavier than the > aluminum ones.Someone else on the this web page will probably know what > that coating is.Enjoy! ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:15 AM PST US From: Kip and Beth Gardner Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Core engines/ Corvair Wings & Wheels Fly-in - OHIO Ken, William has always been slow delivering parts & it is frustrating to not be able to get in touch, but keep at it, eventually you will get through. I imagine it's frustrating when you are really on a roll & the parts you need just aren't there. My project is so much a "when I have time" thing & there is so much to do,that I don't usually don't sweat it - I can always work on some other part. The thing I will say is that you can count on william's integrtiy - if you order parts, eventually you will get them. On another subject, it is just a couple of weeks until EAA Chapter 82 hosts the first "Corvair Wings & Wheels Fly-In" June 2,3,4 at Barber Airport (2D1) in Alliance, OH William & Grace will be there with their 601 (weather permitting). Also, several of the well-known KR-2S builder/flyers, Bill Clapp & Mark Langford, have agreed to bring their Corvair-powered KR's. We hope for a good turnout of other Corvair-powered planes, and the CORSA folks (the car people) have been invited & we expect a number of Corvair show cars on site as well. There will also be a tour of the prototype DYNALIFTER Airship being developed by Ohio Airships at Barber Airport. William, Bill & Mark have promised to make presentations, and forrest Barber will be leading a forum on qualifying to fly under Sport Pilot rules. Anyone who wants more info, contact me off-list or check out the links at www.taylorcraft.org As with all Fly-Ins at Barber, there will be a pancake breakfast Saturday & Sunday. Camping is free on the field, and there are affordable motels nearby in Alliance. Hope to see a lot of you there! Regards, Kip Gardner This promises to be a very fun event(lso, At 12:18 AM -0400 5/16/06, Mike Whaley wrote: >There have been some brush fires throughout their area lately, in >fact the news tonight said there's one that has resulted in >the mandatory evacuation of subdivisions and closed roads within a >mile of Massey Air Ranch where their hangar is. I'm sure they're all >OK but it's possible that they can't even get to the hangar. I can't >speak for them, and that's probably not what's taking a while, but >the point is that things do happen beyond our control sometimes. >Keep in mind that William's business, like everyone else, can also >be at the mercy of parts suppliers and other schedules, and this is >a VERY busy time of year in the industry (SNF, Oshkosh, summer >flying season, etc.) > >This many put some perspective on things... it is what William >posted in last month's edition of the Hangar: >http://www.flycorvair.com/hangar0406.html > >--------------------- >The building of regular production parts, engines, and R&D testing >goes on. A note to builders on the Web: Generally, backorders are >filled in one batch. An example is the last round of Oil Pans. A few >days before Sun 'N Fun, we finished welding, packaging and shipping >14 Oil Pans that were on backorder, bringing us up to date on paid >orders. All of these were shipped by U.S. Postal Service Priority >Mail. The first person who received one innocently chimed in on a >Discussion Group that his Oil Pan had arrived from us and he was >very happy. This spurred two other people to immediately respond on >Discussion Groups that they had an Oil Pan on back order and hadn't >received it. They received theirs the following day because they >live farther away from us, but of course, this was not mentioned on >the same Discussion Groups. Anyone casually reading these groups >could jump to the conclusion that only one Pan, not all 14 >backorders, were delivered. When this happens once a year, it's no >big deal. But it's a frequent enough occurrence that it's worth >mentioning. >--------------------- > >Keep the faith... William and the Hangar Gang may be hard to reach >sometimes, but they're honest and certainly not fly-by-night types. >I bet they're just really busy with all the increasing interest in >Corvairs lately... > >-Mike > >Mike Whaley merlin@ov-10bronco.net >Webmaster, OV-10 Bronco Association >http://www.ov-10bronco.net/ > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: KMHeide >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 1:07 PM >Subject: [piet] Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Core engines > >Chuck, > >I am in the process of reconditioning a Corvair engine for use in my >Piet project when completed. I have ordered all the necessary >components and parts from Mr. William Wynne along with purchasing >his manual. > >The reason for this letter is to make mention of the lengthy process >to getting parts from William Wynne! I have paid for product back in >Feb. but as of this date have not seen the complete order! Several >telephone messages go un-returned and no-one appears to be at his >facility. > >When I have had the opportunity to speak with Mr. Wynne, he is >exceptional in his knowledge and abilities to assist with >information on the Corvair. However, He needs to staff the store 8-5 >M-F and make sure someone is producing product to ship. In reality, >no-one can do everything from fix the plumbing to cut the >checks...... > >Frustrated?.....More than I can tell you! However, I am one that >will keep trying but my abilities to be positive are running out >fast! > >Just food for thought.... > >Do not archive > >Ken >Fargo, ND > -- North Canton, OH ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:32:57 AM PST US From: "tmbrant1@netzero.com" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Core engines --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.com" I too have been extremely frustrated with WW delivery of parts. I ordered my stuff in September 05! I have received about 30% of my order.. I've called, emailed, called some more.... I have not had one response from them even though I've spoken with WW twice and Merill a couple times. I know his is a small buisness but if he keeps at the delivery problems, people might go eslewhere - and then his integrity might come into question as people may get subpar parts elsewhere... I wonder if the 601 builders are his focus and that other builders are getting forgotten about. Anyway, I figure I'll see him a Brodhead and Oshkosh this year where I can hopefully talk to Grace. If it's like any other relationship, the woman is the one in charge anyway. I had planned to build my engine over the winter but now I'm wondering which winter that will be.. I'm calling him right now.. Tom B. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:37:26 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: From Paul's Desk - Urbana Update --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Some interesting reading from Paul P. I thought some would enjoy reading. Mike C. >From: Paul Poberezny >Subject: From Paul's Desk - Urbana Update >Dear SAA Members, > > The SAA Board met here in Oshkosh on May 6 to complete plans for the > SAA Annual Gathering on June 23-24-25 at Frasca Field in Urbana, > Illinois. From member comments, as well as speaking with the area > hotels, if the weather cooperates we could see our best attendance yet. > Attached you will find details on the event. Bob Whittier, a well known > writer, will be with us and it will be interesting to read his > observations after the event. Our evening gatherings have always been > very special events. Join us for our usual steak dinner on Friday night, > and dont miss the Pig Roast on Saturday! > > I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for the many e-mails > and letters expressing your views regarding the aircraft homebuilt > movement, the needs of the movement, and what the future might be. > > From reading your many comments, I sense a feeling that the true grass > roots experimenter and designer seems to be lost, or maybe no longer is > being encouraged or recognized. Interest and promotion of the almost > ready to go kits or the light sport airplane, most made outside of our > country, are put to the forefront. The price tag is high for these > projects, and gone are the many skills one learns working with hand and > mind at your own home, shop, barn or maybe the airport hangar, if this is > permitted by airport policy. We have heard from many of you that there > are airports that do not allow you to work on your project into your > airport hangar strange, isnt it? > > We need to revive that old pioneering spirit and see a persons dream > put into motion as family affair, as it once was. Where did all those > homebuilts go that were built in the 50s through the 80s? They, like > many of our golden years factory built airplanes can be found, and skills > can be learned in restoring them. SAA could be a source in locating them > and encouraging their restoration. > > Lets save our homebuilt legacy. We will share any information on > these historic homebuilt vintage aircraft that we receive. How about > telling us about your current project? Send us a short note and several > clear photos so that we can share them with others and try to recapture > the closeness of builders sharing their knowledge or seeking it. > > Having quite a large area of grass to mow provides me with lots of time > to think while riding on my John Deere mower. As I look down at the > mower meter, I have logged 2,474 hours on this machine. Wouldnt it be > nice if our aircraft engines did as well? Another challenge.. > > Thanks to those of you who have sent in financial contributions to help > cover our expenses. They are very much appreciated. > > See you at Urbana, > Paul > > >Paul H. Poberezny, President >Sport Aviation Association