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1. 05:29 AM - Re: Pietenpol Landing Gear ()
2. 07:16 AM - Re: Pietenpol Landing Gear (Roman Bukolt)
3. 08:43 AM - Re: Pietenpol Landing Gear (Isablcorky@aol.com)
4. 08:52 AM - Re: Pietenpol Landing Gear (Rob Stapleton)
5. 08:57 AM - WWII veteran Bill Rewey (Michael D Cuy)
6. 09:11 AM - Re: Flying the ALCAN (Gordon Bowen)
7. 09:34 AM - Re: WWII veteran Bill Rewey (Rob Stapleton)
8. 11:15 AM - Re: Corvair Cowlings (KMHeide)
9. 04:42 PM - newby here, sorry for the long intro post (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
10. 06:06 PM - Re: newby here, sorry for the long intro post (John Egan)
11. 06:06 PM - Re: newby here, sorry for the long intro post (The Schuerrs)
12. 06:44 PM - steel tubing SkyScout (Andimaxd@aol.com)
13. 07:44 PM - Re: newby here, sorry for the long intro post (Rick Holland)
14. 07:53 PM - Motor ID (Alan Lyscars)
15. 07:53 PM - Re: Pietenpol Landing Gear (Rick Holland)
16. 09:51 PM - Re: Motor ID (DOUGLAS BLACKBURN)
17. 10:49 PM - Re: Motor ID (noel anderson)
18. 11:02 PM - Re: Motor ID (noel anderson)
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Landing Gear |
Rob,
Shock Absorber Coil Rings (springs) as shown in AS&S catalog page 238
will work.
Dick Gillespie
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Stapleton
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:33 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Landing Gear
I had an occasion to look at Mike Luther's Pietenpol project here in
Anchorage.very impressive too.
He is using a landing gear set up that is contained in a square frame.
I recently obtained some landing gear parts from another builder and
they consist of a brace across the bottom of the fuselage at the connect
point for the landing gear uprights on a split gear set-up. What is the
best possible scenario for the split gear with bungees? Is this strong
enough? Mike's set up was complete and very strong looking with the
Pitts springs in place of the bungees.
Any other builders want to weigh in on this one? I am getting ready
to put the fuselage on the gear so now is the time to tweak it if
necessary!
Rob
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Landing Gear |
Bill Rewey of Verona,Wi. has built two Pietenpols, a Corben Ace now
hanging in the Airport terminal in Madison, and is finishing a Zenith
801.
His second and current Piet has flown for 11 yrs. and over 30,000 mi.
He has available, a pack of over 20 good building suggestion and
sketches for the Piet. including an exellent jig built out of 2 x 4's
for building the landing gear and sketches on how to build spring loaded
shock struts.
Bill Rewey
3339 Mound View Rd.
Verona, Wi. 53593
Package of over 20 suggestions and sketches
$12.00 prepaid or S.A.S.E for a list
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Landing Gear |
Glad someone brought this to the attention of the list. His package for $12
would be the best investment a Piet builder could make. I used most of his
suggestions without question. I think Bill's contribution to the Piets rates a
position up there next to Bingelis.
Corky
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| Subject: | Pietenpol Landing Gear |
Thanks sounds like a good investment.
Rob
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roman
Bukolt
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Landing Gear
Bill Rewey of Verona,Wi. has built two Pietenpols, a Corben Ace now
hanging
in the Airport terminal in Madison, and is finishing a Zenith 801.
His second and current Piet has flown for 11 yrs. and over 30,000 mi.
He
has available, a pack of over 20 good building suggestion and sketches
for
the Piet. including an exellent jig built out of 2 x 4's for building
the
landing gear and sketches on how to build spring loaded shock struts.
Bill Rewey
3339 Mound View Rd.
Verona, Wi. 53593
Package of over 20 suggestions and sketches
$12.00 prepaid or S.A.S.E for a list
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| Subject: | WWII veteran Bill Rewey |
Not only does Bill have a good info pack but he is a super good guy. Bill
is an amazing guy.
He flew F-4U Corsairs and TBM's in WWII and has flown his Piet thru snow
showers from Madison, Wisconsin
to Sun-N-Fun more than once. He's given tons of Young Eagle and otherwise
rides in his Piet and just as
kind and mild-mannered a guy as you will ever meet.
Bill is good to talk with if you phone him and or paper mail him, but he's
resisted e-mail and in web for some time.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Flying the ALCAN |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gordon Bowen" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
I asked that question of Wayne, he made something like 22 stops from Iowa to
Homer. Highest price for AVGas was $5.60 in YT and lowest price $3.80/gal
in Dakotas.
Gordon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Stapleton" <foto@alaska.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:18 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Flying the ALCAN
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Rob Stapleton" <foto@alaska.net>
>
>
> Anyone checked the price of fuel in B.C. and Y.T. lately? I checked today
> and the price 110 LL on average was 4.60 per gal. the Canadians measure
> car
> gas in litres I am not sure about aircraft.
> This is a very doable trip and the Alaska Airmen's Association has a book
> about it, and a log to sign once you make it to Anchorage.
> Rob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael D
> Cuy
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:35 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flying the ALCAN
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
> <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
>
> Gordon-- In 1999 Steve E. and Duane Woolsey flew Piets from Utah and have
> pics from over 10,000 foot peaks crossing
>
> the mountains. A/C systems reportedly were working great during that
> period of flight.
>
> Steve E. has a 65 hp Piet and Duane flew his Subaru powered...but sold it
> while in Wisconsin.
>
> Mike C.
>
> do not archive.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | WWII veteran Bill Rewey |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Rob Stapleton" <foto@alaska.net>
Michael,
Thanks for the push. I am going to mail him a check this morning. My father
also a WWII veteran, and a cryptographer in the Navy has also avoided email.
Regards from Alaska, we keenly watch for your postings.
Rob
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael D
Cuy
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:56 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: WWII veteran Bill Rewey
Not only does Bill have a good info pack but he is a super good guy. Bill
is an amazing guy.
He flew F-4U Corsairs and TBM's in WWII and has flown his Piet thru snow
showers from Madison, Wisconsin
to Sun-N-Fun more than once. He's given tons of Young Eagle and otherwise
rides in his Piet and just as
kind and mild-mannered a guy as you will ever meet.
Bill is good to talk with if you phone him and or paper mail him, but he's
resisted e-mail and in web for some time.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair Cowlings |
DJ,
These cowlings are 29" in width and 21" in length from the front. Looking at
the photo, you can see where the sheet metal is added at the end towards the firewall
to complete the fitting. Everything is trimable and should be an easy
fit to make the top and front of the conversation more aesthetic. You will still
have to use some sheet metal to finish the sides and bottom.
I will sell you one to do a mock up and trial fit. If it is not going to work
just send it back for a refund!
Ken
DJ Vegh <dj@veghdesign.com> wrote:
sweet Jesus! this is just what I need!!!! dimensions?? width at firewall
and height? radius of arc on top? If they fit my GN1 I will take a set
ASAP
DJ Vegh
veghdesign.com
Mesa, AZ
602.743.5768
----- Original Message -----
From: KMHeide
To: Pietenpol
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:24 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Cowlings
Members of the List:
I have duplicated the original Bernie Pietenpol Corvair Engine Cowling as seen
in the "Last of the Originals" Aircamper photos. I am enclosing photos for you
who are interested in purchasing an upper and lower half Corvair engine cover.
They are professionally reproduced and can be trimmed to fit your application.
(See Photos)
Costs: Upper half $200.00
Lower half $125.00
Shipping not included.
If you are interested please send a personal check or money order to:
KM Heide
C/O Regional ALB
1609 32nd Avenue South
Fargo, ND 58103
701-364-9100 Work
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| Subject: | newby here, sorry for the long intro post |
Okay its official.
I got my prints , supplemental drawings and instructions from Don Pietenpol,
so with the exception of reading all the material and planing it out in my
head, I have never ever worked on an airplane before. But ever since I saw the
peit, I have been intrigued by it and the build process. I had been lurking
on and off here for the past 2 years and followed the threads on a limited
basis when time permitted.
Now its time to get to getting. I am going to need all the advise I can get
from basic intro stuff to the complex so any words of advise, well I am all
ears. I don't expect to jump right in with both feet at first but intend to
take the slower route of one learning and construction one assembly at a time.
At least that's the plan so far.
My last project was the complete rebuild of a 1983 Jeep CJ7 from the ground
up the project took 5 years but its on the road so I supposes there is
something to be said for tenacity. I am not bad with wrenches but have much to
learn
about wood , cloth and such. I suppose all in due time!
I hade the opportunity to speak with another builder last night from
Arizona, he asked how big I was, I gave him the basic dimensions, he said I had
better consider adding a few inches to the width of the cockpit section, I am
not
certain how that's going to happen, so if anyone has been faced with that or
a krash weight reduction plan I again am really interested , especially in
the preplanning stages. Lots easier to build in the change from the start of
the build than to go making after the fact modifications.
Well again thanks for any help , words of wisdom and advise you are able to
offer as I continue to study and research.
John Recine
newby builder
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| Subject: | Re: newby here, sorry for the long intro post |
ref: Okay its official.
I got my prints , supplemental drawings......
Welcome to the group John and congratulations on your choice of project. I
am a first time builder as well, and have found this talented group of builders
a real asset to turn to.
John
Greenville, Wisconsin
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| Subject: | Re: newby here, sorry for the long intro post |
John,
You go man. There are a lot of us that look and watch. It's very cool
to see another one take the plunge. I'll be there with you soon. What
engine are you using? I'll be looking forward to watching your
progress.
Hey, where do you live?
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:39 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: newby here, sorry for the long intro post
Okay its official.
I got my prints , supplemental drawings and instructions from Don
Pietenpol, so with the exception of reading all the material and planing
it out in my head, I have never ever worked on an airplane before. But
ever since I saw the peit, I have been intrigued by it and the build
process. I had been lurking on and off here for the past 2 years and
followed the threads on a limited basis when time permitted.
Now its time to get to getting. I am going to need all the advise I
can get from basic intro stuff to the complex so any words of advise,
well I am all ears. I don't expect to jump right in with both feet at
first but intend to take the slower route of one learning and
construction one assembly at a time. At least that's the plan so far.
My last project was the complete rebuild of a 1983 Jeep CJ7 from the
ground up the project took 5 years but its on the road so I supposes
there is something to be said for tenacity. I am not bad with wrenches
but have much to learn about wood , cloth and such. I suppose all in due
time!
I hade the opportunity to speak with another builder last night from
Arizona, he asked how big I was, I gave him the basic dimensions, he
said I had better consider adding a few inches to the width of the
cockpit section, I am not certain how that's going to happen, so if
anyone has been faced with that or a krash weight reduction plan I again
am really interested , especially in the preplanning stages. Lots easier
to build in the change from the start of the build than to go making
after the fact modifications.
Well again thanks for any help , words of wisdom and advise you are
able to offer as I continue to study and research.
John Recine
newby builder
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| Subject: | steel tubing SkyScout |
Hi group!
NX101XW is still about 90% done, just like last year at the beginning of
Summer... I would not think that is strange, except, we have been working on her
constantly. To compound the problem, I just purchased a Sky Scout fuselage.
Not a wooden one, a medium that I'm used to working with and have all of
the plans, but a steel tube one.
So, I need information on the subject. If there are any steel tube Scouts
with Model A's out there on this list, I would be very interested in visiting
with on/off list.
Max L. Davis
Arlington, TX
NX101XW (due to fly on Thursday..., still don't know which one)
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| Subject: | Re: newby here, sorry for the long intro post |
Congratulations on your decision to take the plunge. Standard advice for
someone just getting started:
- Join a local EAA chapter and get a Technical Advisor
- Buy all 4 Tony Bingelis books (can be ordered from the EAA website)
- Buy the AC 43.13 Aircraft Repair book (also on the EAA website)
- Try to do something every day, even if its just ordering something or
planning what to do next.
Concerning fuselage widening and other modifications, search through the
archives, you will find a lot of discussion about every kind of mod you can
think of. Would also highly recommend building a mock cockpit/fuselage usin=
g
scrap wood as discussed by Tony Bingelis.
Rick Holland
On 5/25/06, AMsafetyC@aol.com <AMsafetyC@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Okay its official.
>
> I got my prints , supplemental drawings and instructions from Don
> Pietenpol, so with the exception of reading all the material and planing
it
> out in my head, I have never ever worked on an airplane before. But ever
> since I saw the peit, I have been intrigued by it and the build process.
I
> had been lurking on and off here for the past 2 years and followed the
> threads on a limited basis when time permitted.
>
> Now its time to get to getting. I am going to need all the advise I can
> get from basic intro stuff to the complex so any words of advise, well I
am
> all ears. I don't expect to jump right in with both feet at first but int=
end
> to take the slower route of one learning and construction one assembly at=
a
> time. At least that's the plan so far.
>
> My last project was the complete rebuild of a 1983 Jeep CJ7 from the
> ground up the project took 5 years but its on the road so I supposes ther=
e
> is something to be said for tenacity. I am not bad with wrenches but have
> much to learn about wood , cloth and such. I suppose all in due time!
>
> I hade the opportunity to speak with another builder last night from
> Arizona, he asked how big I was, I gave him the basic dimensions, he said=
I
> had better consider adding a few inches to the width of the cockpit secti=
on,
> I am not certain how that's going to happen, so if anyone has been faced
> with that or a krash weight reduction plan I again am really interested ,
> especially in the preplanning stages. Lots easier to build in the change
> from the start of the build than to go making after the fact modification=
s.
>
> Well again thanks for any help , words of wisdom and advise you are able
> to offer as I continue to study and research.
>
> John Recine
> newby builder
>
--
Rick Holland
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Gents,
Tonight I recieved this old handmade model Piet made years ago by a now
deceased member of our Chapter.
One of the old timers remembers this bird flying on its own but doesn't
know anything about the motor installed.
Can any of you guys identify the motor from the attached pics and tell
me how it works?
This old girl will keep me company in the shop while I build her Big
Sister!
Thanks fellas,
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Landing Gear |
Totally agree, as nice a guy as you will ever meet. I have built his 3 ft.
center section, brake petal design, landing gear jig, and rear fuselage lif=
t
handle. Plus a very clear weight and balance description.
Rick H
On 5/25/06, Isablcorky@aol.com <Isablcorky@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Glad someone brought this to the attention of the list. His package for
> $12 would be the best investment a Piet builder could make. I used most o=
f
> his suggestions without question. I think Bill's contribution to the Piet=
s
> rates a position up there next to Bingelis.
>
> Corky
>
--
Rick Holland
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Looks like an older CO2 engine. I only fly gliders, but have seen quite
a few power planes. I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will pipe in.
Doug/Elizabeth Blackburn
Yucaipa California
www.inlandsloperebels.com<http://www.inlandsloperebels.com/> AMA #3761
W.W. conversion manual, #3202,#5782
www.flycorvair.com<http://www.flycorvair.com/>
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Lyscars<mailto:alyscars@maine.rr.com>
To: Piet List<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:55 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Motor ID
Gents,
Tonight I recieved this old handmade model Piet made years ago by a
now deceased member of our Chapter.
One of the old timers remembers this bird flying on its own but
doesn't know anything about the motor installed.
Can any of you guys identify the motor from the attached pics and tell
me how it works?
This old girl will keep me company in the shop while I build her Big
Sister!
Thanks fellas,
Alan
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Hi Alan.
I did not think I'd ever see one of these again!!! Hang on to
it, it's worth real money, at a toy sale could be worth between $500 to
$1000. As boy in '40's & 50's, I was a keen hobbiest, aircraft, trains,
cars, and steam and HOT AIR engins the heat source was spirt (meths).
There were several differant designs, but all worked on the same
principal, a heat chamber or coil was heated and heated air or steam was
passed to a reciplicating cylinder or a vane/fan enclosure. I had plans
for this stuff at one time, but they got lost in a house shift!!!!! They
some times blow up if you over do it !!!!!(much better than video games)
Kind Regards to you and yours. Noel in NZ
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Lyscars
To: Piet List
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:55 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Motor ID
Gents,
Tonight I recieved this old handmade model Piet made years ago by a
now deceased member of our Chapter.
One of the old timers remembers this bird flying on its own but
doesn't know anything about the motor installed.
Can any of you guys identify the motor from the attached pics and tell
me how it works?
This old girl will keep me company in the shop while I build her Big
Sister!
Thanks fellas,
Alan
-----
25/05/2006
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Hi Alan. Another thourght on the model engin, it could be compressed
air, I recall some of the older designs from the "30's used a bicycle
pump to force air into a chamber!! Regards Noel in NZ
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Lyscars
To: Piet List
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:55 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Motor ID
Gents,
Tonight I recieved this old handmade model Piet made years ago by a
now deceased member of our Chapter.
One of the old timers remembers this bird flying on its own but
doesn't know anything about the motor installed.
Can any of you guys identify the motor from the attached pics and tell
me how it works?
This old girl will keep me company in the shop while I build her Big
Sister!
Thanks fellas,
Alan
-----
25/05/2006
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