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1. 01:52 PM - 36" center section design (John Egan)
2. 04:28 PM - Re: ()
3. 05:52 PM - Re: 36" center section design (Rick Holland)
4. 06:08 PM - Re: you seen one wing, you seen em' both (Rick Holland)
5. 08:31 PM - Re: 36" center section design (Dick Navratil)
6. 11:04 PM - FW: Flying the Alaska Highway...? (Rob Stapleton)
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Subject: | 36" center section design |
36" center section: With the direction from group members to build a 36" center
section, please advise me if my thoughts are reasonable regarding the design.
Cut the center section spars to 36".
Lengthen the plywood laminated plates so they span from the end of the center
spar back to the cabane strut attach points.
The wing attachment brackets (flat stock) will be at the same geometry as in
the Vi Kaplar drawing, however they will not be welded to the cabane strut weldment.
A spacer will be needed to cleanly overlap the brackets on the wing.
Fabricate the cabane strut attachment welment and locate it directly above the
fuselage so the struts remain square to the fuselage and wing.
So basically, fabricate the weldment as usual, without welding the flat stock
wing bracket to the strut weldment... A person could also use something to the
Grega plans however the traditional design calls for easy to use flat stock.
I appreciate your thoughts and advice.
Thanks,
John
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I need to know the two balance points on the aircraft.I suspect one is
on the seat arm rest(for for and aft) and the other on the top of the
wing for left and right.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@
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Subject: | Re: 36" center section design |
Would recommend purchasing the 36" CC plans from Bill Rewey, his address wa=
s
listed a couple days ago on this list. Basically you are correct the only
real difference is that the cabane fittings on the spars are separate from
the wing attach fittings at the ends of the spars. Actually makes things
easier I think. In my case, since I widened my fuselage 2" the top bolt
holes for the cabane fittings mated with the top bolt holes of the wing
attach fittings.
Rick H
On 5/28/06, John Egan <johnegan99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> 36" center section: With the direction from group members to build a 36"
> center section, please advise me if my thoughts are reasonable regarding
the
> design.
>
>
> - Cut the center section spars to 36".
> - Lengthen the plywood laminated plates so they span from the end
> of the center spar back to the cabane strut attach points.
> - The wing attachment brackets (flat stock) will be at the same
> geometry as in the Vi Kaplar drawing, however they will not be welded
to the
> cabane strut weldment. A spacer will be needed to cleanly overlap the
> brackets on the wing.
> - Fabricate the cabane strut attachment welment and locate it
> directly above the fuselage so the struts remain square to the fuselag=
e and
> wing.
>
> So basically, fabricate the weldment as usual, without welding the flat
> stock wing bracket to the strut weldment... A person could also use
> something to the Grega plans however the traditional design calls for eas=
y
> to use flat stock.
>
> I appreciate your thoughts and advice.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
>
--
Rick Holland
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Subject: | Re: you seen one wing, you seen em' both |
Mike
Looking at your wing with the bottom covered made me think of something. Di=
d
you glue (poly-tak) the fabric to the bottom of each rib, or is it best to
wait till you rib stitch to pull the bottom fabric up to the undercambere=
d
ribs?
Rick
On 5/26/06, Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>
> Rick-- good to hear you have completed one wing. You will be amazed at
> how FAST the other wing will go.
>
> Wings go together wayyyyy faster than the fuselage. Everything bolts to
> the fuselage and all the controls and systems
>
> are in there. The wings were really satisfying for me to build.
>
>
> Here is a wing pic for all you builders to get you enthused
> again. Remember--this is a three day weekend for most of
>
> us so let your family know that you are going to be working in the shop
> some on either Saturday, Sunday, or Monday.....or
>
> perhaps all three !
>
> Mike C.
>
>
--
Rick Holland
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Subject: | Re: 36" center section design |
John
Sounds like you got it right. I am looking at one here in my shop built
as you described. The only thing I did additionally, is to add 3 bottom
plates under the fuel tank. Also, I have a 24" cut out.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Egan
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 3:49 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 36" center section design
36" center section: With the direction from group members to build a
36" center section, please advise me if my thoughts are reasonable
regarding the design.
a.. Cut the center section spars to 36".
b.. Lengthen the plywood laminated plates so they span from the end
of the center spar back to the cabane strut attach points.
c.. The wing attachment brackets (flat stock) will be at the same
geometry as in the Vi Kaplar drawing, however they will not be welded to
the cabane strut weldment. A spacer will be needed to cleanly overlap
the brackets on the wing.
d.. Fabricate the cabane strut attachment welment and locate it
directly above the fuselage so the struts remain square to the fuselage
and wing.
So basically, fabricate the weldment as usual, without welding the
flat stock wing bracket to the strut weldment... A person could also use
something to the Grega plans however the traditional design calls for
easy to use flat stock.
I appreciate your thoughts and advice.
Thanks,
John
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Subject: | FW: Flying the Alaska Highway...? |
Any one venturing up to Alaska?
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
-----Original Message-----
From: Alaska Airmen's Association [mailto:info@alaskaairmen.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:31 AM
Subject: RE: Flying the Alaska Highway...?
Yes, we still have the 3rd edition of the "Logbook," Flying to, from and in
Alaska. They are available by calling the office here at 245-1251.
Dee
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Stapleton [mailto:foto@alaska.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:18 PM
Subject: Flying the Alaska Highway...?
Importance: High
I have several contacts that are flying up the Alaska highway this summer
and are looking for info. Didn't the AAA used to have a book, and material
to help Lower 48 pilots with their trips.Also I remember a log or something
that they sign when the make it.
Can you advise so I can post it on a list serve, I couldn't find it on the
web site.
Cheers,
Rob Stapleton
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
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