Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sat 06/10/06


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 07:28 AM - Re: Model A (or B) Engine Builder (Carl Vought)
     2. 07:46 AM - shielded cans for spark plugs (Oscar Zuniga)
     3. 07:46 AM - shielding cans (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan))
     4. 08:38 AM - Re: shielded cans for spark plugs (Isablcorky@aol.com)
     5. 09:36 AM - Re: Liability Insurance (Don Emch)
     6. 02:22 PM - Re: Re: Liability Insurance (gcardinal)
     7. 02:54 PM - Re: Re: Liability Insurance (Jeff Boatright)
     8. 07:56 PM - Re: Re: Liability Insurance (Rcaprd@aol.com)
     9. 08:51 PM - Expanding the Envelope (Rcaprd@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:28:48 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Vought" <carbarvo@knology.net>
    Subject: Re: Model A (or B) Engine Builder
    I have dealt with Ken Perkins a couple of times and have found him to do good work on time and to properly represent what he does. To find out what he's prepared to do vis-a-vis a complete engine, I'm sure you have only to contact him. His email address is kenvernaperkins@juno.com. His phone number is 913/764-6949. Also, there's a Model-A society that publishes a magazine called "Secrets of Speed" If you're interested in that let me know. They know about some pretty wild stuff, like aluminum Model T blocks....Carl Vought ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Ash To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 7:59 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A (or B) Engine Builder --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Ash I'm afraid I can't help you with Ken Perkins; I personally have never heard of him or his work, but I don't travel in those circles. Of all the stuff Bud did, I don't think he was a machinist. Translate that to mean I suspect he farmed a lot of the machine work out, so talking to the Model A connections Fred gave you may be more productive than you think. I'll bet if someone knows enough to machine Model A parts, they could either assemble an engine for you, or possibly direct you to someone who could. Jim -----Original Message----- From: HelsperSew@aol.com Sent: Jun 9, 2006 8:28 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model A (or B) Engine Builder Hi Jim, Fred was the family friend that I refer to in my post. He was kind enough to include some names of the businesses that were working with Bud on his A's. I suppose I can try to build-up my own Ford A but I wish and prefer to hire someone else that has done it rather than me reinvent the wheel. There was no offer to get in contact with his widow. Does Ken Perkins make up full complete engines for people? ========================= ========================= http://wiki.matronics.com ========================= ========================= ===========


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    Time: 07:46:50 AM PST US
    From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: shielded cans for spark plugs
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> Harvey asks- >I am looking for the name of these things and where they can be bought If I understand you correctly, this should be what you're looking for and Great Plains calls them "shielded spark plug adapters": http://www.greatplainsas.com/scspkplug.html They're not cheap to buy, but once you have them you can use automotive spark plugs at a couple of bucks apiece and they'll pay for themselves in the difference in cost over shielded aircraft plugs. If you're not in a hurry, Great Plains usually has a sale around Christmas and they sometimes list these plug adapters with a 10 or 15% discount. And sorry about the post on insurance through Falcon... I should have clarified that 41CC does run an A65 and had all its test hours flown off already (25, in this case) when I insured it, and that apparently makes all the difference in the world. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 07:46:50 AM PST US
    From: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
    Subject: shielding cans
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) Harvey: Great Planes Aircraft, the VW engine people sells what you may need. They call them spark plug adaptors. They adapt the "standard Slick M2266 harness to standard vw plugs". They probably won"t fit over the large Model A plugs, but I recall that one of the Model A suppliers sold a reducer that allowed newer modern spark plugs to be used in the A head. In the 2004 catalog, four adapters with Bosch plugs were $94.95 gpasc.com Leon S.


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    Time: 08:38:18 AM PST US
    From: Isablcorky@aol.com
    Subject: Re: shielded cans for spark plugs
    Good morning Oscar, May I add a few dingies relative to Falcon and insurance in general. Edwin flew off the 25 required hours without insurance. I then rejoined EAA in order to buy from Falcon. A requirement. (Unconstitutional). They seemed soooooo nice on the phone and all until they got my money, about 450, then here come the buts. Must have the names, FAA ticket numbers, total time, last tail wheel check out date and other little things for their approval before policy is in effect. These named persons were on the policy and the only ones covered. Better check it out BEFORE you send your dough. If I had to do it again I would ignore the insurance snag and just fly and fly and fly like I used to do years ago. Those blood suckers are the ruination of so many activities. They have the public in fear and sit on their _____s in big offices and just wait for those payments without any good old American labor expended. Talk about our loss of freedom. I could but won't go on for hours talking about these leaches. I'm sure no one in the insurance industry is reading this because building a Pietenpol requires brains and hard work, something foreign to the insurance people. Your friend in Louisiana


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    Time: 09:36:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Liability Insurance
    From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com> Hi Greg... Great to hear about your flight!! I'm sure you will really enjoy flying it! There's nothing quite like it. I got my insurance from Falcon. They have been great to work with. Coverage hasn't been a problem at all (I do have an A-65 though). When I checked into it I didn't have any tailwheel time and they told me I would need 10 hours first. My premium has been $400 for liabilty and $400 for non-movement damage coverage ( fire, flood, theft, etc.) per year. They base the non-movement damage on your receipts from building. So keep them all!! I had a hangar collapse at my last airport with minimal damage and I turned it into Falcon insurance and they were really great to work with. Don E. NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=39813#39813


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    Time: 02:22:11 PM PST US
    From: "gcardinal" <gcardinal@mn.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Liability Insurance
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gcardinal" <gcardinal@mn.rr.com> Liability insurance premiums through Falcon seems to vary greatly. Anywhere from $400 up to $800. Anyone have a guess as to why the difference? Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 11:34 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Liability Insurance > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com> > > Hi Greg... > Great to hear about your flight!! I'm sure you will really enjoy flying > it! There's nothing quite like it. I got my insurance from Falcon. They > have been great to work with. Coverage hasn't been a problem at all (I do > have an A-65 though). When I checked into it I didn't have any tailwheel > time and they told me I would need 10 hours first. My premium has been > $400 for liabilty and $400 for non-movement damage coverage ( fire, flood, > theft, etc.) per year. They base the non-movement damage on your receipts > from building. So keep them all!! I had a hangar collapse at my last > airport with minimal damage and I turned it into Falcon insurance and they > were really great to work with. > Don E. > NX899DE > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=39813#39813 > > >


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    Time: 02:54:54 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: Liability Insurance
    Cc: pietenpol-list@matronics.com --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu> Greg, I don't know all of the reasons, but one reason might be that we as consumers don't know that premiums they're quoting other consumers. For instance, given what's been written here over the last couple of days, it seems reasonable to ask for a $400 premium and then let the agent explain why it should cost more. Thanks, Jeff At 4:20 PM -0500 6/10/06, gcardinal wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gcardinal" <gcardinal@mn.rr.com> > >Liability insurance premiums through Falcon seems to vary greatly. >Anywhere from $400 up to $800. >Anyone have a guess as to why the difference? > >Greg > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com> >To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> >Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 11:34 AM >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Liability Insurance > >>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com> >> >>Hi Greg... >>Great to hear about your flight!! I'm sure you will really enjoy >>flying it! There's nothing quite like it. I got my insurance from >>Falcon. They have been great to work with. Coverage hasn't been a >>problem at all (I do have an A-65 though). When I checked into it >>I didn't have any tailwheel time and they told me I would need 10 >>hours first. My premium has been $400 for liabilty and $400 for >>non-movement damage coverage ( fire, flood, theft, etc.) per year. >>They base the non-movement damage on your receipts from building. >>So keep them all!! I had a hangar collapse at my last airport with >>minimal damage and I turned it into Falcon insurance and they were >>really great to work with. >>Don E. >>NX899DE -- _____________________________________________________________ Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD Associate Professor, Emory Eye Center, Atlanta, GA, USA Senior Editor, Molecular Vision, http://www.molvis.org/molvis mailto:jboatri@emory.edu


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    Time: 07:56:43 PM PST US
    From: Rcaprd@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Liability Insurance
    In a message dated 6/10/2006 4:23:29 PM Central Standard Time, gcardinal@mn.rr.com writes: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gcardinal" <gcardinal@mn.rr.com> Liability insurance premiums through Falcon seems to vary greatly. Anywhere from $400 up to $800. Anyone have a guess as to why the difference? Greg Hey Greg, Congrats on your flight !! Let the fun begin !! I have Avemco, and my Annual Premium is $594. I waited till after I had the 40 hr test period over, and then some, before I even called about insurance. 100,000 bodily injury per person 1,000,000 property damage 1,000,000 each accident Chuck G. NX770CG see y'all at Brodhead !!


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    Time: 08:51:20 PM PST US
    From: Rcaprd@aol.com
    Subject: Expanding the Envelope
    A couple of weeks ago, I carried a 243 lb. passenger on a 1 1/2 hr flight. He was getting pretty squirmy after about an hour. I have headsets now, which work pretty well. It's great to be able to communicate with my passenger now !! We flew around El Dorado Lake, and did a candy drop to some kids at the baseball field. Today, I got into, and out of, a 1000 foot strip, with trees at both ends. Lynn Knoll's son Kevin, was having a Birthday Barbecue, and he mowed the grass on his strip, but no airplanes have landed there for about 50 years. Lynn & Kevin are building a beautiful Corvair Power Pietenpol, and will be at Brodhead this year. On approach from the West, I saw the last of 8 skydivers landing there. On a low flyover, I smelled the Barbecue, saw about 25 or 30 people down there, and figured well...this must be the place !! Did a couple of 'Smoke Circles in the Sky', then a couple of Low Smokin' Passes...cuttin' the grass !! I did a full stall landing, and during roll out, hit a hump, which launched 'er back in the air, but it proved to be no problem...soft touchdown and Plenty of runway left. Spun 'er around on the ground about 3 or 4 times, Smoke On, till I couldn't see anything around but Smoke !! Had all the great BBQ ribs, trimmins, and checked out their project. For the takeoff, after the mag drop & pre-flight tests, and loosened my belt (full belly) I snuggled the tail as close as I could up against the fence at the North end for a Southerly departure, held full power & stick forward for a couple seconds with the brakes, Smoke On, and let 'er go. The tail was up immediately, and I tried to hold it just a couple of inches above the turf. Let the speed build, gradually back off the forward pressure on the stick...c'mon 40 mph...couldn't wait for 40, and eased 'er off at about 38 mph. Put the nose back down to stay in ground effect to allow the airspeed to build up a little more. I was off the ground before I got to that hump. Trees were coming up pretty fast, and up and over we went at about 45 mph, and easily climbed up over the trees & power lines. YEEE HAAWWW !! Came back around for another Low, Smokin', Grass Cuttin' Pass. Climbing out I rocked the wings, and waggled the tail !! That makes the smoke do some curly Q's. Everybody had a great time !! Chuck G. NX770CG




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