Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sun 06/11/06


Total Messages Posted: 5



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 08:01 AM - Insurance (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan))
     2. 11:35 AM - Re: Insurance (Jeff Boatright)
     3. 12:28 PM - insurance (Oscar Zuniga)
     4. 05:29 PM - Re: insurance (Rick Holland)
     5. 05:47 PM - Re: insurance (HelsperSew@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:01:30 AM PST US
    From: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
    Subject: Insurance
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) Speaking of Great Plains Aircraft co. (VW conversions), for what ever this is worth, they claim that their engines are fully insurable. Interesting since like the Corvair, they are not certified aircraft engines. Corky: I think the reason insurances companies are such a bite in the rear, lays more in the lawyer (law suit) side of the problem. You ought to hear all of the lawyer commercials that run during our local news shows. They essentially say "does someone out there have more money than you? Would you like t have some of his money? Well, give us a call......" One of the local schisters even has an old has been tv star, David McCallum hawking his law suits. 40 years ago he was Napoleon Solo of the old Man from UNCLE secret agent show. And law schools continue to do a flood of business. On another note, The Harbor Tool catalog shows a digital pocket scale that looks like it would be perfect for weighing small batches of epoxy. It weighs up to 17.64 oz. (500 grams) Only $14.99 Item # 93543-OAPH. I haven't seen it in the stores, so at least for now it must be strictly a catalog item. DO NOT ARCHIVE Leon S,


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    Time: 11:35:12 AM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: Insurance
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu> Tort losses are what insurance companies want you to blame. It's an easy bogey man. Tort losses may be part of the equation, but more importantly it lies what insurance companies really are - investment firms. Follow the investments. When insurance companies are making money from investments, they insure more broadly and for lower premiums. As their investments return less (maybe a dip in the market or just plain poor judgement or bad luck), they tighten up on what they're willing to insure. Ultimately, you pay more in premiums when insurance company investors make bad decisions. DO NOT ARCHIVE. Just flooby-dust on a Sunday afternoon. >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) > >Speaking of Great Plains Aircraft co. (VW conversions), for what ever >this is worth, they claim that their engines are fully insurable. >Interesting since like the Corvair, they are not certified aircraft >engines. Corky: I think the reason insurances companies are such a bite >in the rear, lays more in the lawyer (law suit) side of the problem. You >ought to hear all of the lawyer commercials that run during our local >news shows. They essentially say "does someone out there have more money >than you? Would you like t have some of his money? Well, give us a >call......" One of the local schisters even has an old has been tv star, >David McCallum hawking his law suits. 40 years ago he was Napoleon Solo >of the old Man from UNCLE secret agent show. And law schools continue to >do a flood of business.... -- Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Ophthalmology Emory University School of Medicine Atlanta, GA 30322 Editor-in-Chief Molecular Vision http://www.molvis.org/


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    Time: 12:28:37 PM PST US
    From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: insurance
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> I had the same experience with Falcon as Corky has related... all the appropriate info needed for each listed pilot, then they quoted the rate and only insured the plane with the listed insured pilots. I just had myself and Charlie insured; we both have plenty of tailwheel time. My first year's insurance expired long ago and I've not renewed it since the airplane is not flyable at the moment, but long hours thinking about it have led me to the same conclusion Corky arrived at... no insurance. I'm going barefoot from now on. The only hesitancy I have is based on discussions I've seen on lists like these where people say it's selfish, evil, and criminal (well, not really) for the operator of an experimental aircraft to not carry at least liability insurance, to protect the public and others from the operator's acts. After all, it isn't the fault of someone in a house on the ground if a plane crashes into their house, and the pilot/owner should at least have liability insurance. Just like I don't think I'll ever go back to try to get my instrument ticket again, I don't think I'll ever get insurance. Just a little low, slow, no radio, no electrics flying. So shoot me. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 05:29:01 PM PST US
    From: "Rick Holland" <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: insurance
    I agree with you Oscar, I may go the same way when the time comes. Rick On 6/11/06, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote: > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" < > taildrags@hotmail.com> > > I had the same experience with Falcon as Corky has related... all the > appropriate info needed for each listed pilot, then they quoted the rate > and > only insured the plane with the listed insured pilots. I just had myself > and Charlie insured; we both have plenty of tailwheel time. My first > year's > insurance expired long ago and I've not renewed it since the airplane is > not > flyable at the moment, but long hours thinking about it have led me to the > same conclusion Corky arrived at... no insurance. I'm going barefoot from > now on. > > The only hesitancy I have is based on discussions I've seen on lists like > these where people say it's selfish, evil, and criminal (well, not really) > for the operator of an experimental aircraft to not carry at least > liability > insurance, to protect the public and others from the operator's > acts. After > all, it isn't the fault of someone in a house on the ground if a plane > crashes into their house, and the pilot/owner should at least have > liability > insurance. > > Just like I don't think I'll ever go back to try to get my instrument > ticket > again, I don't think I'll ever get insurance. Just a little low, slow, no > radio, no electrics flying. So shoot me. > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > -- Rick Holland "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"


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    Time: 05:47:47 PM PST US
    From: HelsperSew@aol.com
    Subject: Re: insurance
    Oscar, I too, am fed up with blood-sucking insurance companies. After dutifully paying premiums for umpteen years it comes time for them to uphold their end of the bargain, its like pulling teeth to get them to pay off. I am very tired of working working working just to pay pay pay. I think I am going to go along with you and just take my chances and be self-insured. I don't have that much to take so come and get it. Bring the truck and I'll even help load it up. Dan H




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