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1. 02:27 AM - Re: aging eyesight aid (Clif Dawson)
2. 05:34 AM - Re: aging eyesight aid (Hans Vander Voort)
3. 05:38 AM - Re: aging eyesight aid ()
4. 06:05 AM - Corvair update (Oscar Zuniga)
5. 07:42 AM - Private airstrip for Piet. (Robison Family)
6. 08:01 AM - Re: Private airstrip for Piet. (Isablcorky@aol.com)
7. 08:10 AM - Re: aging eyesight aid (Mark Blackwell)
8. 08:18 AM - Re: Private airstrip for Piet. (Phillips, Jack)
9. 08:32 AM - Re: Private airstrip for Piet. ()
10. 08:33 AM - Re: aging eyesight aid ()
11. 08:39 AM - Re: Private airstrip for Piet. (Phillips, Jack)
12. 09:07 AM - Re: Private airstrip for Piet. ()
13. 09:48 AM - Re: Private airstrip for Piet. (Eric Williams)
14. 09:55 AM - Re: Re: aging eyesight aid (GCARDINAL@mn.rr.com)
15. 10:03 AM - max gross/was Private airstrip for Piet (Oscar Zuniga)
16. 10:05 AM - Re: Re: aging eyesight aid ()
17. 10:10 AM - Re: Private airstrip for Piet. (Steve Ruse)
18. 10:16 AM - Re: Private airstrip for Piet. ()
19. 03:42 PM - Re: Private airstrip for Piet. (Rcaprd@aol.com)
20. 03:51 PM - Re: aging eyesight aid (Rcaprd@aol.com)
21. 03:54 PM - Re: Private airstrip for Piet. (Rcaprd@aol.com)
22. 03:59 PM - Re: Private airstrip for Piet. (Rcaprd@aol.com)
23. 08:49 PM - Re: Private airstrip for Piet. (Scott L. Robison)
24. 09:17 PM - Re: Private airstrip for Piet. (gcardinal)
25. 10:29 PM - Re: Private airstrip for Piet. (Dick Navratil)
26. 11:45 PM - Re: aging eyesight aid (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Re: aging eyesight aid |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
This is what you want Oscar;
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=45035&cat=1,43456,43351
Hell of a better price too!
Clif
Old guy eh? Is this you they're talking about? :-)
Did you hear about the old guy that goes into the druggist to get Viagra
and asked for it to be cut in four(each tablet).The druggist asked why
and the guy sez I only need enough so I don't pee in my shoes
>
> Just saw this little idea in one of the magazines... it goes on the face
> of your altimeter, directly over the Kollsman window, to magnify the
> numbers for guys like me who need help reading things up close. Can't say
> as I'd be willing to pay what they're asking though, because it looks like
> you could easily get one of the little stick-on magnifiers to do the same
> thing:
>
> http://www.onewinkllc.com/
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Hans Vander Voort <hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com>
Cliff.
The magnet holder would definitely give you much better Compass read-outs
:-)
Try a PDA magnifier, available at most office supply stores.
or AS&S sells the "MAGNIFICO PLUS GPS MAGNIFIER 11-04378 (same thing)
Hans
Clif Dawson
<CDAWSON5854@shaw
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ist-server@matron
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Re: Pietenpol-List: aging eyesight
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06/14/2006 04:24
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Please respond to
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
This is what you want Oscar;
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=45035&cat=1,43456,43351
Hell of a better price too!
Clif
Old guy eh? Is this you they're talking about? :-)
Did you hear about the old guy that goes into the druggist to get Viagra
and asked for it to be cut in four(each tablet).The druggist asked why
and the guy sez I only need enough so I don't pee in my shoes
>
> Just saw this little idea in one of the magazines... it goes on the face
> of your altimeter, directly over the Kollsman window, to magnify the
> numbers for guys like me who need help reading things up close. Can't
say
> as I'd be willing to pay what they're asking though, because it looks
like
> you could easily get one of the little stick-on magnifiers to do the same
> thing:
>
> http://www.onewinkllc.com/
>
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| Subject: | aging eyesight aid |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
Geeze ,who uses compass's these days with the advent of GPS?;-)
Do not archive
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hans
Vander Voort
Sent: June 14, 2006 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: aging eyesight aid
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Hans Vander Voort
<hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com>
Cliff.
The magnet holder would definitely give you much better Compass
read-outs
:-)
Try a PDA magnifier, available at most office supply stores.
or AS&S sells the "MAGNIFICO PLUS GPS MAGNIFIER 11-04378 (same thing)
Hans
Clif Dawson
<CDAWSON5854@shaw
.ca>
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eyesight
aid
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Please respond to
pietenpol-list@ma
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
This is what you want Oscar;
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=45035&cat=1,43456,43351
Hell of a better price too!
Clif
Old guy eh? Is this you they're talking about? :-)
Did you hear about the old guy that goes into the druggist to get Viagra
and asked for it to be cut in four(each tablet).The druggist asked why
and the guy sez I only need enough so I don't pee in my shoes
>
> Just saw this little idea in one of the magazines... it goes on the
face
> of your altimeter, directly over the Kollsman window, to magnify the
> numbers for guys like me who need help reading things up close. Can't
say
> as I'd be willing to pay what they're asking though, because it looks
like
> you could easily get one of the little stick-on magnifiers to do the
same
> thing:
>
> http://www.onewinkllc.com/
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
This has probably already been noted, but William Wynne has updated his
website with several items. One, at http://www.flycorvair.com/hangar.html ,
explains how he is trying to streamline his operation and provide better
phone service and includes a photo and tribute to John Monday at the bottom
of the update. Another is a report on a completed and flying Corvair
Pietenpol, at http://www.flycorvair.com/hangar0506.html .
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Private airstrip for Piet. |
I've just purchased land that measures 924' X 236'. Do you guys
thinnk that this will be long enough for a runway if the approach is
unobstructed? I'd like to use a C75 or C85 for power on my Piet.
Thoughts suggestions? We are about 100' above sea level.
Thanks,
Scott Robison
Central Illinois
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| Subject: | Re: Private airstrip for Piet. |
With practice, you should be able to set it down on a normal power off
landing and have 4 or 5 hundred feet remaining. Using a powered approach you
should set it in and have 800 feet remaining.
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| Subject: | Re: aging eyesight aid |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Mark Blackwell" <markb1958@verizon.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: aging eyesight aid
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
>
> Geeze ,who uses compass's these days with the advent of GPS?;-)
> Do not archive
Those with dead batteries.
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| Subject: | Private airstrip for Piet. |
If the approaches are truly unobstructed (no obstructions over about 10'
tall), you should be able to operate from a strip of that size safely.
My Piet is heavy (745 lbs empty) and it regularly can get off the ground
in under 500' with no wind. Then it chugs along, climbing at between 0
and 400 fpm, depending on load and temperature (density altitude). At
high loads and high density altitudes, its climb ranges from
non-existent to pitiful.
I will never forget the trip to Brodhead last year where I landed for
fuel at a 4,000' paved runway in West Virginia and almost bought the
farm on takeoff. Temperature was 91 F, density altitude was about 4000'
and with full fuel and all the stuff I was carrying, I was at gross
weight (1150 lbs). The runway was 4,000 feet long, with a 200 foot tall
hill at the south end. Of course, the wind was from the south. I got
off the ground in about 400 feet and climbed to about 20' (the upper
edge of ground effect). It simply would not climb any higher and the
hill was approaching fast. I was able to find a gap in the trees on the
left side of the runway near the south end, and wove through the trees
(whose tops were higher than I was) until I flew over a cliff above a
large lake. I circled three laps around that lake before I got high
enough to get over that hill and continue on my course. I did find much
later that my ignition timing was wrong and I was only getting about 55
hp out of my A65 Continental. Since I tuned the engine up climb on a
hot day has improved from non-existent to merely awful.
Landing on a 900' strip should prove to be no problem. I regularly get
mine down and stopped in under 500'
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
"Icarus Plummet"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robison
Family
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Private airstrip for Piet.
I've just purchased land that measures 924' X 236'. Do you guys
thinnk that this will be long enough for a runway if the approach is
unobstructed? I'd like to use a C75 or C85 for power on my Piet.
Thoughts suggestions? We are about 100' above sea level.
Thanks,
Scott Robison
Central Illinois
Cardinal Health -- Working together. For life. (sm)
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| Subject: | Private airstrip for Piet. |
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the max weight for a Piet supposed to
be 1129lbs?
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Phillips, Jack
Sent: June 14, 2006 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Private airstrip for Piet.
If the approaches are truly unobstructed (no obstructions over about 10'
tall), you should be able to operate from a strip of that size safely.
My Piet is heavy (745 lbs empty) and it regularly can get off the ground
in under 500' with no wind. Then it chugs along, climbing at between 0
and 400 fpm, depending on load and temperature (density altitude). At
high loads and high density altitudes, its climb ranges from
non-existent to pitiful.
I will never forget the trip to Brodhead last year where I landed for
fuel at a 4,000' paved runway in West Virginia and almost bought the
farm on takeoff. Temperature was 91 F, density altitude was about 4000'
and with full fuel and all the stuff I was carrying, I was at gross
weight (1150 lbs). The runway was 4,000 feet long, with a 200 foot tall
hill at the south end. Of course, the wind was from the south. I got
off the ground in about 400 feet and climbed to about 20' (the upper
edge of ground effect). It simply would not climb any higher and the
hill was approaching fast. I was able to find a gap in the trees on the
left side of the runway near the south end, and wove through the trees
(whose tops were higher than I was) until I flew over a cliff above a
large lake. I circled three laps around that lake before I got high
enough to get over that hill and continue on my course. I did find much
later that my ignition timing was wrong and I was only getting about 55
hp out of my A65 Continental. Since I tuned the engine up climb on a
hot day has improved from non-existent to merely awful.
Landing on a 900' strip should prove to be no problem. I regularly get
mine down and stopped in under 500'
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
"Icarus Plummet"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robison
Family
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Private airstrip for Piet.
I've just purchased land that measures 924' X 236'. Do you guys
thinnk that this will be long enough for a runway if the approach is
unobstructed? I'd like to use a C75 or C85 for power on my Piet.
Thoughts suggestions? We are about 100' above sea level.
Thanks,
Scott Robison
Central Illinois
Cardinal Health -- Working together. For life. (sm)
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| Subject: | aging eyesight aid |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
I always carry spares and it is a pant load of fun replacing them in
flight!;-)
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Blackwell
Sent: June 14, 2006 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: aging eyesight aid
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Mark Blackwell"
<markb1958@verizon.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: aging eyesight aid
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
>
> Geeze ,who uses compass's these days with the advent of GPS?;-)
> Do not archive
Those with dead batteries.
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| Subject: | Private airstrip for Piet. |
Max weight is whatever the builder determines it to be. In my case, I
have run a stress analysis on the main structure and determined that
1150 is a good number. On my data plate it says 1195, just so I'm not
likely to get "busted" on a ramp check.
Jack
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
harvey.rule@bell.ca
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Private airstrip for Piet.
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the max weight for a Piet supposed to
be 1129lbs?
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Phillips, Jack
Sent: June 14, 2006 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Private airstrip for Piet.
If the approaches are truly unobstructed (no obstructions over about 10'
tall), you should be able to operate from a strip of that size safely.
My Piet is heavy (745 lbs empty) and it regularly can get off the ground
in under 500' with no wind. Then it chugs along, climbing at between 0
and 400 fpm, depending on load and temperature (density altitude). At
high loads and high density altitudes, its climb ranges from
non-existent to pitiful.
I will never forget the trip to Brodhead last year where I landed for
fuel at a 4,000' paved runway in West Virginia and almost bought the
farm on takeoff. Temperature was 91 F, density altitude was about 4000'
and with full fuel and all the stuff I was carrying, I was at gross
weight (1150 lbs). The runway was 4,000 feet long, with a 200 foot tall
hill at the south end. Of course, the wind was from the south. I got
off the ground in about 400 feet and climbed to about 20' (the upper
edge of ground effect). It simply would not climb any higher and the
hill was approaching fast. I was able to find a gap in the trees on the
left side of the runway near the south end, and wove through the trees
(whose tops were higher than I was) until I flew over a cliff above a
large lake. I circled three laps around that lake before I got high
enough to get over that hill and continue on my course. I did find much
later that my ignition timing was wrong and I was only getting about 55
hp out of my A65 Continental. Since I tuned the engine up climb on a
hot day has improved from non-existent to merely awful.
Landing on a 900' strip should prove to be no problem. I regularly get
mine down and stopped in under 500'
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
"Icarus Plummet"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robison
Family
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Private airstrip for Piet.
I've just purchased land that measures 924' X 236'. Do you guys
thinnk that this will be long enough for a runway if the approach is
unobstructed? I'd like to use a C75 or C85 for power on my Piet.
Thoughts suggestions? We are about 100' above sea level.
Thanks,
Scott Robison
Central Illinois
Cardinal Health -- Working together. For life. (sm)
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| Subject: | Private airstrip for Piet. |
Up here in Canada,I can register mine as an ultralight(basic) and as
long as I'm under the max weight for an ultralight (1235,I think now)
then they don't care what my plane max weight is.I don't even have that
info on my plate.My empty weight is 777lbs but then I carry a battery
and a starter as well as an 80hp Franklin motor.So I'm going to be
heavier.The plans say I'm supposed to be 1129 max but then again I have
Grega mods so who knows,I may be a max weight of 1200lbs.;-o
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Phillips, Jack
Sent: June 14, 2006 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Private airstrip for Piet.
Max weight is whatever the builder determines it to be. In my case, I
have run a stress analysis on the main structure and determined that
1150 is a good number. On my data plate it says 1195, just so I'm not
likely to get "busted" on a ramp check.
Jack
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
harvey.rule@bell.ca
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Private airstrip for Piet.
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the max weight for a Piet supposed to
be 1129lbs?
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Phillips, Jack
Sent: June 14, 2006 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Private airstrip for Piet.
If the approaches are truly unobstructed (no obstructions over about 10'
tall), you should be able to operate from a strip of that size safely.
My Piet is heavy (745 lbs empty) and it regularly can get off the ground
in under 500' with no wind. Then it chugs along, climbing at between 0
and 400 fpm, depending on load and temperature (density altitude). At
high loads and high density altitudes, its climb ranges from
non-existent to pitiful.
I will never forget the trip to Brodhead last year where I landed for
fuel at a 4,000' paved runway in West Virginia and almost bought the
farm on takeoff. Temperature was 91 F, density altitude was about 4000'
and with full fuel and all the stuff I was carrying, I was at gross
weight (1150 lbs). The runway was 4,000 feet long, with a 200 foot tall
hill at the south end. Of course, the wind was from the south. I got
off the ground in about 400 feet and climbed to about 20' (the upper
edge of ground effect). It simply would not climb any higher and the
hill was approaching fast. I was able to find a gap in the trees on the
left side of the runway near the south end, and wove through the trees
(whose tops were higher than I was) until I flew over a cliff above a
large lake. I circled three laps around that lake before I got high
enough to get over that hill and continue on my course. I did find much
later that my ignition timing was wrong and I was only getting about 55
hp out of my A65 Continental. Since I tuned the engine up climb on a
hot day has improved from non-existent to merely awful.
Landing on a 900' strip should prove to be no problem. I regularly get
mine down and stopped in under 500'
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
"Icarus Plummet"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robison
Family
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Private airstrip for Piet.
I've just purchased land that measures 924' X 236'. Do you guys
thinnk that this will be long enough for a runway if the approach is
unobstructed? I'd like to use a C75 or C85 for power on my Piet.
Thoughts suggestions? We are about 100' above sea level.
Thanks,
Scott Robison
Central Illinois
Cardinal Health -- Working together. For life. (sm)
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| Subject: | Private airstrip for Piet. |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Eric Williams" <ewilliams805@msn.com>
Scott,
Not to split hairs or anything but I grew up in Central Illinois and the
elevations are more on the order of 600' above sea level. Not a real huge
difference but I'm an engineer and we're kind of like that (ha ha). Also,
you can eek out a little more length by orienting your strip diagonally on
the parcel. It would give you 953' that way - probably not enough of an
advantage to bisect the property like that.
If you don't mind saying, where in central Illinois? I grew up in Lincoln,
about 30 miles north of Springfield.
Eric
>From: "Robison Family" <robisonfamily@consolidated.net>
>To: "Pietenpol-List Digest Server" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Private airstrip for Piet.
>Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 09:40:37 -0500
>
>I've just purchased land that measures 924' X 236'. Do you guys thinnk
>that this will be long enough for a runway if the approach is unobstructed?
>I'd like to use a C75 or C85 for power on my Piet. Thoughts suggestions?
>We are about 100' above sea level.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Scott Robison
>Central Illinois
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| Subject: | Re: aging eyesight aid |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: GCARDINAL@mn.rr.com
Who needs a GPS as long as water towers have names?
----- Original Message -----
From: harvey.rule@bell.ca
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: aging eyesight aid
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
>
> Geeze ,who uses compass's these days with the advent of GPS?;-)
> Do not archive
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hans
> Vander Voort
> Sent: June 14, 2006 8:32 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: aging eyesight aid
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Hans Vander Voort
> <hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com>
>
> Cliff.
>
> The magnet holder would definitely give you much better Compass
> read-outs
> :-)
>
> Try a PDA magnifier, available at most office supply stores.
> or AS&S sells the "MAGNIFICO PLUS GPS MAGNIFIER 11-04378 (same thing)
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> To
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> Re: Pietenpol-List: aging
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> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson
> <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
> This is what you want Oscar;
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> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=45035&cat=1,43456,43351
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> Hell of a better price too!
>
> Clif
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> Old guy eh? Is this you they're talking about? :-)
>
> Did you hear about the old guy that goes into the druggist to get
> Viagraand asked for it to be cut in four(each tablet).The druggist
> asked why
> and the guy sez I only need enough so I don't pee in my shoes
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> > Just saw this little idea in one of the magazines... it goes on the
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> > of your altimeter, directly over the Kollsman window, to magnify the
> > numbers for guys like me who need help reading things up close.
> Can'tsay
> > as I'd be willing to pay what they're asking though, because it
> lookslike
> > you could easily get one of the little stick-on magnifiers to do the
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| Subject: | max gross/was Private airstrip for Piet |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Corky placarded and registered NX41CC with a max gross of 1,185 lbs. and I
have run numerous "what-ifs" to see how I could load it out of gross while
still in the CG envelope. As others have mentioned, you can load it and
take off, but will it climb?
I have yet to re-weigh the airplane after repairs but expect the empty
weight to be quite close to the way Corky originally completed it. Balance
will change a bit since I relocated the ELT to behind the pilot's seat and
Corky also changed from a metal to a wood prop right before I bought the
airplane from him.
My uncle has 33 acres in the Texas hill country, including two connecting
grass meadows with a fence between them. I've measured the two meadows and
if the fence is removed, it's possible that I could get the Piet in and out
of there. Alt. of 1,640MSL so on a typical summer day with 90F air temp and
68F dew point (common), standard pressure, it will be about 4200' density
altitude and the engine will only develop about 85% power at best. Very
scenic, runs along the Frio River in the hills, subject to the usual
williwaws and gusts when the afternoon starts heating things up but with a
good breeze up the meadow to land and takeoff into. Maybe someday I'll
shoot a few approaches and see how it looks. A guy can dream?!
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | aging eyesight aid |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
Funny you should say that.When I used to fly my Lazair I used to read
road signs and water towers and pick out radio towers on the map.I used
to have it strapped to a plac on my leg.Man those were the good old
days!
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
GCARDINAL@mn.rr.com
Sent: June 14, 2006 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: aging eyesight aid
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: GCARDINAL@mn.rr.com
Who needs a GPS as long as water towers have names?
----- Original Message -----
From: harvey.rule@bell.ca
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: aging eyesight aid
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
>
> Geeze ,who uses compass's these days with the advent of GPS?;-)
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hans
> Vander Voort
> Sent: June 14, 2006 8:32 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: aging eyesight aid
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Hans Vander Voort
> <hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com>
>
> Cliff.
>
> The magnet holder would definitely give you much better Compass
> read-outs
> :-)
>
> Try a PDA magnifier, available at most office supply stores.
> or AS&S sells the "MAGNIFICO PLUS GPS MAGNIFIER 11-04378 (same thing)
>
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> Hans
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> To
> Sent by: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
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> owner-pietenpol-l
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> ist-server@matron
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> ics.com
> Subject
> Re: Pietenpol-List: aging
> eyesight
> aid
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> 06/14/2006 04:24
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> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson
> <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
> This is what you want Oscar;
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=45035&cat=1,43456,43351
>
> Hell of a better price too!
>
> Clif
>
> Old guy eh? Is this you they're talking about? :-)
>
> Did you hear about the old guy that goes into the druggist to get
> Viagraand asked for it to be cut in four(each tablet).The druggist
> asked why
> and the guy sez I only need enough so I don't pee in my shoes
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Just saw this little idea in one of the magazines... it goes on the
> face
> > of your altimeter, directly over the Kollsman window, to magnify the
> > numbers for guys like me who need help reading things up close.
> Can'tsay
> > as I'd be willing to pay what they're asking though, because it
> lookslike
> > you could easily get one of the little stick-on magnifiers to do the
> same
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> > http://www.onewinkllc.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Private airstrip for Piet. |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com>
I regularly fly out of a 2,100' grass strip at 1,100' above sea level.
I've been into a 1,000' strip, and it wasn't a problem by myself.
At that takeoff distance though (and sometimes even with a 2,100'
runway), I'll never carry a passenger. Climb is just too slow...makes
for an uncomfortable flight. My Piet is 600lbs empty, I weigh
~165lbs, and my wife is about 130lbs. In my plane with 100lbs of
fuel, we're right at 1,000lbs. At that weight, 2,100' is about what I
need to get over a 50' obstruction. Very sluggish in climb...all
manuevers are made very, very gently.
On a 60*F day, by myself, with a little headwind, I can get over a 50'
obstruction in 600' or so.
This is with an A-75 and cruise prop.
Consider a no-electrics C-90 for your Piet...that is a very good
power:weight ratio for the engine. Should make a good performer, and
solo you would likely be fine on any Illinois day on a 900' strip with
no obstructions. As for fuel consumption of the larger engine, you
can always throttle it back to 55% power and burn as much as an A-65.
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
Quoting Robison Family <robisonfamily@consolidated.net>:
> I've just purchased land that measures 924' X 236'. Do you guys
> thinnk that this will be long enough for a runway if the approach is
> unobstructed? I'd like to use a C75 or C85 for power on my Piet.
> Thoughts suggestions? We are about 100' above sea level.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott Robison
> Central Illinois
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| Subject: | Private airstrip for Piet. |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
I was talking to another Piet owner out of Carp during our Flyin last
weekend and he mentioned that the elevator is constricted to 10degrees
up elevator.I have no constriction on mine at all.It will come up to 45
degrees when pulled all the way.Should I have constriction on this or is
it just personal preference?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Ruse
Sent: June 14, 2006 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Private airstrip for Piet.
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Steve Ruse
<steve@wotelectronics.com>
I regularly fly out of a 2,100' grass strip at 1,100' above sea level.
I've been into a 1,000' strip, and it wasn't a problem by myself.
At that takeoff distance though (and sometimes even with a 2,100'
runway), I'll never carry a passenger. Climb is just too slow...makes
for an uncomfortable flight. My Piet is 600lbs empty, I weigh
~165lbs, and my wife is about 130lbs. In my plane with 100lbs of
fuel, we're right at 1,000lbs. At that weight, 2,100' is about what I
need to get over a 50' obstruction. Very sluggish in climb...all
manuevers are made very, very gently.
On a 60*F day, by myself, with a little headwind, I can get over a 50'
obstruction in 600' or so.
This is with an A-75 and cruise prop.
Consider a no-electrics C-90 for your Piet...that is a very good
power:weight ratio for the engine. Should make a good performer, and
solo you would likely be fine on any Illinois day on a 900' strip with
no obstructions. As for fuel consumption of the larger engine, you
can always throttle it back to 55% power and burn as much as an A-65.
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
Quoting Robison Family <robisonfamily@consolidated.net>:
> I've just purchased land that measures 924' X 236'. Do you guys
> thinnk that this will be long enough for a runway if the approach is
> unobstructed? I'd like to use a C75 or C85 for power on my Piet.
> Thoughts suggestions? We are about 100' above sea level.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott Robison
> Central Illinois
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| Subject: | Re: Private airstrip for Piet. |
In a message dated 6/14/2006 9:45:17 AM Central Standard Time,
robisonfamily@consolidated.net writes:
I've just purchased land that measures 924' X 236'. Do you guys thinnk
that this will be long enough for a runway if the approach is unobstructed? I'd
like to use a C75 or C85 for power on my Piet. Thoughts suggestions? We are
about 100' above sea level.
Thanks,
Scott Robison
Central Illinois
That's pretty short, but is certainly within performance limits. However,
before you operate there, you Must have the experience to know how to handle the
plane under these conditions.
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Re: aging eyesight aid |
In a message dated 6/14/2006 11:56:46 AM Central Standard Time,
GCARDINAL@mn.rr.com writes:
Who needs a GPS as long as water towers have names?
I agree, but I was lost one time (GPS turned off, saving the only batteries)
and spotted a water tower that was about 5 miles away. When I got there, it
didn't have a name on it !!
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Re: Private airstrip for Piet. |
In a message dated 6/14/2006 10:38:01 AM Central Standard Time,
harvey.rule@bell.ca writes:
Correct me if I am wrong but isn=99t the max weight for a Piet suppose
d to be
1129lbs?
Bernard H. Pietenpol listed the gross weight at 1050 lbs.
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Re: Private airstrip for Piet. |
In a message dated 6/14/2006 12:17:30 PM Central Standard Time,
harvey.rule@bell.ca writes:
I was talking to another Piet owner out of Carp during our Flyin last
weekend and he mentioned that the elevator is constricted to 10degrees
up elevator.I have no constriction on mine at all.It will come up to 45
degrees when pulled all the way.Should I have constriction on this or is
it just personal preference?
Ten Degrees is not nearly enough up flipper (elevator). There is no way you
would ever be able to do a full stall landing, or use it as aerodynamic
braking.
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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| Subject: | RE: Private airstrip for Piet. |
Eric,
Sorry for the bad info. Yes, you are correct on the altitude. It's
actually 720 to be exact. I had my head in the clouds and my wife in one
ear when I was typing. Anyway, I'm from Charleston, Illinois and there
are 5 Piets in this area under construction. Exciting stuff. See you at
Broadhead.
Scott
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| Subject: | Re: Private airstrip for Piet. |
I agree with Chuck about 10 degrees being insufficient. NX18235 has no
stops on the elevator. The DAR didn't have a problem with it.
I'm finding that the elevator remains fully effective all the way
through the flare and touchdown.
The elevator / stabilizer gap is quite small which helps with elevator
controllability.
Dick Navratil can speak a little about sealing the elevator gap.
Greg C.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rcaprd@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Private airstrip for Piet.
In a message dated 6/14/2006 12:17:30 PM Central Standard Time,
harvey.rule@bell.ca writes:
I was talking to another Piet owner out of Carp during our Flyin
last
weekend and he mentioned that the elevator is constricted to
10degrees
up elevator.I have no constriction on mine at all.It will come up to
45
degrees when pulled all the way.Should I have constriction on this
or is
it just personal preference?
Ten Degrees is not nearly enough up flipper (elevator). There is no
way you would ever be able to do a full stall landing, or use it as
aerodynamic braking.
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Re: Private airstrip for Piet. |
I agree with Chuck and Greg about the elevator travle. No stops are
advisable there. Sealing the gaps definetly changes the performance
drastically. Gets the tail up faster and increases airspeed approx 2
mph.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: gcardinal
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Private airstrip for Piet.
I agree with Chuck about 10 degrees being insufficient. NX18235 has no
stops on the elevator. The DAR didn't have a problem with it.
I'm finding that the elevator remains fully effective all the way
through the flare and touchdown.
The elevator / stabilizer gap is quite small which helps with elevator
controllability.
Dick Navratil can speak a little about sealing the elevator gap.
Greg C.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rcaprd@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Private airstrip for Piet.
In a message dated 6/14/2006 12:17:30 PM Central Standard Time,
harvey.rule@bell.ca writes:
I was talking to another Piet owner out of Carp during our Flyin
last
weekend and he mentioned that the elevator is constricted to
10degrees
up elevator.I have no constriction on mine at all.It will come up
to 45
degrees when pulled all the way.Should I have constriction on this
or is
it just personal preference?
Ten Degrees is not nearly enough up flipper (elevator). There is no
way you would ever be able to do a full stall landing, or use it as
aerodynamic braking.
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Re: aging eyesight aid |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
I assumed one would take it off the base
and stick it to the face. Right? :-)
Clif
>
> The magnet holder would definitely give you much better Compass read-outs
> :-)
>
> Hans
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