---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 06/23/06: 32 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:03 AM - Re: Aluminum Head Ford A (HelsperSew@aol.com) 2. 05:16 AM - Jayhawk, Mountaineer----not, CHEESE HEADS ! (Michael D Cuy) 3. 05:43 AM - Re: ah goodie ! (Rick Holland) 4. 05:45 AM - Brodhead buzz (Oscar Zuniga) 5. 06:45 AM - Piet newsletter (Douwe Blumberg) 6. 07:06 AM - Re: Piet newsletter (John Hofmann) 7. 07:06 AM - Re: Piet newsletter (Jim Markle) 8. 07:32 AM - Re: Aluminum Head Ford A (Carl Vought) 9. 07:38 AM - new pilot (Oscar Zuniga) 10. 08:52 AM - lady passengers (Michael D Cuy) 11. 09:28 AM - lady passengers (Oscar Zuniga) 12. 09:29 AM - Re: ah goodie ! (Gordon Bowen) 13. 09:54 AM - Re: Piet newsletter (Barry Davis) 14. 10:15 AM - Re: ah goodie ! (Rcaprd@aol.com) 15. 10:21 AM - Re: Jayhawk, Mountaineer----not, CHEESE HEADS ! (Rcaprd@aol.com) 16. 10:32 AM - Re: Jayhawk, Mountaineer----not, CHEESE HEADS ! (Isablcorky@aol.com) 17. 10:35 AM - Re: Piet newsletter (Bill Church) 18. 10:37 AM - Re: ah goodie ! (Rcaprd@aol.com) 19. 10:49 AM - Re: Piet newsletter (John Hofmann) 20. 11:54 AM - Re: Aluminum Head Ford A (Carl Vought) 21. 12:43 PM - Piet Newsletter (Barry Davis) 22. 01:23 PM - Re: Piet newsletter (Catdesign) 23. 04:07 PM - Re: ah goodie ! (Gordon Bowen) 24. 05:03 PM - Re: Jayhawk, Mountaineer----not, CHEESE HEADS ! (John Hofmann) 25. 05:03 PM - Re: lady passengers (gcardinal) 26. 05:51 PM - Re: lady passengers () 27. 07:19 PM - Re: lady passengers (Clif Dawson) 28. 07:20 PM - Re: ah goodie ! (D.Reid) 29. 09:07 PM - 3rd flight report (gcardinal) 30. 09:10 PM - 3rd flight report (gcardinal) 31. 09:52 PM - Re: ah goodie ! (D.Reid) 32. 11:01 PM - Re: ah goodie ! (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:03:13 AM PST US From: HelsperSew@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum Head Ford A Thanks Chuck for the Dan Price aluminum head info. I couldn't find anything on the internet on it. Any feedback from anybody on the quality or performance of these? Dan Helsper ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:15 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: Jayhawk, Mountaineer----not, CHEESE HEADS ! --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy I used to tell Karen while driving thru Chicago "when in Chicago, drive like a Chicagoan" and once we cross the border into Wisconsin we instantly go from Mountaineer, Jayhawk, Buckeye, Longhorn, or otherwise to Cheese Heads. When at Brodhead, become a Cheese Head:) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:11 AM PST US From: "Rick Holland" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ah goodie ! Opps, sorry Chuck, I forgot you told me that. So Mountaineers drink Guiness around the camp file eh? do not archive On 6/22/06, Rcaprd@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 6/22/2006 8:54:31 AM Central Standard Time, > at7000ft@gmail.com writes: > > Ditto for me Chuck. Will trade beer (or whatever else you Jayhawkers drink > around the camp fire) for some front seat time. Have never flown in a > Piet. > > Rick H > > Sure think, Rick. I like Guiness, but I'm not a Jayhawk...I'm a W Va > Mountaineer !! See ya at Brodhead !! > > Chuck G. > NX770CG > -- Rick Holland "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:55 AM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead buzz --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" Matt writes- >I'll be at Brodhead this year with my wife and if any of you flyers are >gracious >enough, would like to get her into one That would be Mike Cuy, if he were taking his Piet this year. He seems to have this thing about helping ladies up into the front cockpit. A little boost "here and there" seems to do it... ;o) Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:54 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet newsletter Hey guys, This is more of a "thinking out loud" email. I have a stack of old Pietenpol newsletters that covers about fifteen years, and what a HUGE gift they have been to me as piet lover and builder. Not only for advice and ideas, but for inspiration and comraderie. The Brodhead group newsletter seems to have dwindled away, which is a shame. I know that these things take a lot of dedication and work from a core group of people, and when that core group gets tired or fed up, the thing dies out. (again, just thinking out loud) I wonder if enough guys from our group committed to helping, could a little "piet rag" type newsletter be started which incorporated a lot of topics we discuss on line, some old articles, and updates and photos of new and old projects and stories. There seems to me to be no shortage of material. Maybe something that came out three times a year, which would give us time to get lots of articles and tons of photos so people would really want them. It also seems that the old newsletter and group really got the Piet thing growing a lot during those years. It gave people motivation and knowledge, but it also gave them a sense of comraderie as a "group" sharing a commong passion. Not only that, but it's always a great boost to hear of how many other projects are going, and at what stage they're at. I'm likely opening a big can of worms, but it's a thought that's been in my head for a couple of years now. Douwe ps. since my Piet should be done this year and I don't have my license yet, I've been plugging away at it for the last eighteen months and passed my ckride yesterday!! I'm a pilot!!!!!!!!!!!!! ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:02 AM PST US From: John Hofmann Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet newsletter --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: John Hofmann Congratulations Douwe on the checkride! Now, I may be sticking my neck out but I can do a newsletter pretty easily. I do one for the Travel Air group currently and can add the Piet with no real proble. I can post a copy of my latest Travel Air newsletter (completed yesterday) online as a pdf if anyone is interested. -john- > Hey guys, > > This is more of a "thinking out loud" email. I have a stack of old Pietenpol > newsletters that covers about fifteen years, and what a HUGE gift they have > been to me as piet lover and builder. Not only for advice and ideas, but for > inspiration and comraderie. > > The Brodhead group newsletter seems to have dwindled away, which is a shame. > I know that these things take a lot of dedication and work from a core group > of people, and when that core group gets tired or fed up, the thing dies out. > > (again, just thinking out loud) I wonder if enough guys from our group > committed to helping, could a little "piet rag" type newsletter be started > which incorporated a lot of topics we discuss on line, some old articles, and > updates and photos of new and old projects and stories. There seems to me to > be no shortage of material. Maybe something that came out three times a year, > which would give us time to get lots of articles and tons of photos so people > would really want them. > > It also seems that the old newsletter and group really got the Piet thing > growing a lot during those years. It gave people motivation and knowledge, > but it also gave them a sense of comraderie as a "group" sharing a commong > passion. Not only that, but it's always a great boost to hear of how many > other projects are going, and at what stage they're at. > > I'm likely opening a big can of worms, but it's a thought that's been in my > head for a couple of years now. > > Douwe > > ps. since my Piet should be done this year and I don't have my license yet, > I've been plugging away at it for the last eighteen months and passed my > ckride yesterday!! I'm a pilot!!!!!!!!!!!!! > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:02 AM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet newsletter ps. since my Piet should be done this year and I don't have my license yet, I've been plugging away at it for the last eighteen months and passed my ckride yesterday!! I'm a pilot!!!!!!!!!!!!! You passed your checkride!!!! that's great! Congratulations..... Jim in Pryor OK ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:32:09 AM PST US From: "Carl Vought" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum Head Ford A Dan Price apparently does not market the head any more. He's removed it from his website. I got one of the last ones he had. I found the workmanship lacking (water passages undrilled), customer support non-existant and common courtesy absolutely absent. I suggest getting in touch with Charlie Yapp at "Secrets of Speed Society" 513/724-0700, cy4fn@aol.com. I suggest buying a sample copy of his quarterly. I don't know of any other dual ignition AL heads, but there are some DI iron heads out there. Carl Vought ----- Original Message ----- From: HelsperSew@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 5:00 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum Head Ford A Thanks Chuck for the Dan Price aluminum head info. I couldn't find anything on the internet on it. Any feedback from anybody on the quality or performance of these? Dan Helsper ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:09 AM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: new pilot --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" Congratulations, Douwe-! Let's get a piece of that shirttail cut off and put on the wall! Did you take your checkride in a taildragger? Will you need to get a tailwheel endorsement? Assuming you are talking Private Pilot and not Rec. or Sport. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:52:41 AM PST US From: Michael D Cuy Subject: Pietenpol-List: lady passengers --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy Ah yes, Oscar----tis not only appealing but prudent during high density operations with somewhat marginally powered airplanes to seek out the thinner willing passengers at a fly-in, not the big heavy beer-belly guys (like me) who always seem to gravitate to an airplane that was originally designed to carry people of smaller stature from the depression era. My choice of passengers is clearly one that takes into account safety first: beauty and appeal of those passengers does happen to be a spin-off most times tho ! Mike C. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:28:15 AM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: lady passengers --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" Yes, Mike, I understand why you prefer lady passengers. As a matter of fact, I already am working with a clothing manufacturer on a line of ladies' Pietenpol Flying Shorts (I'm tentatively calling the line "Cuy in the Sky", pending your approval). The shorts will be a durable khaki fabric and will feature cargo pockets on the front for general utility purposes, and on the -ahem- backside is embroidered a handprint and the words, "I got a ride in Mike Cuy's Piet and all I got was this pat on my tush!" Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:29:58 AM PST US From: "Gordon Bowen" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ah goodie ! As a guy who spent first 20 years of life in WV and still has roots there ('eers never leave they just go away), I can say Corn Likker or 'shine is still available and more tasty than ever, assumin' it's been "laid-up" jest right. Don't get testy Chuck, just a funnin' ya. Gordon Bowen Homer AK/Paden City, West By God Virginia. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Holland To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 4:42 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ah goodie ! Opps, sorry Chuck, I forgot you told me that. So Mountaineers drink Guiness around the camp file eh? do not archive On 6/22/06, Rcaprd@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 6/22/2006 8:54:31 AM Central Standard Time, at7000ft@gmail.com writes: Ditto for me Chuck. Will trade beer (or whatever else you Jayhawkers drink around the camp fire) for some front seat time. Have never flown in a Piet. Rick H Sure think, Rick. I like Guiness, but I'm not a Jayhawk...I'm a W Va Mountaineer !! See ya at Brodhead !! Chuck G. NX770CG -- Rick Holland "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:54:22 AM PST US From: "Barry Davis" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet newsletter --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Barry Davis" Please post the newsletter or send it straight to my email bed@mindspring.com I might be able to contribute an article or two every now and then. Barry ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:05 AM > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: John Hofmann > > > Congratulations Douwe on the checkride! > > Now, I may be sticking my neck out but I can do a newsletter pretty > easily. > I do one for the Travel Air group currently and can add the Piet with no > real proble. I can post a copy of my latest Travel Air newsletter > (completed > yesterday) online as a pdf if anyone is interested. > > -john- > >> Hey guys, >> >> This is more of a "thinking out loud" email. I have a stack of old >> Pietenpol >> newsletters that covers about fifteen years, and what a HUGE gift they >> have >> been to me as piet lover and builder. Not only for advice and ideas, >> but for >> inspiration and comraderie. >> >> The Brodhead group newsletter seems to have dwindled away, which is a >> shame. >> I know that these things take a lot of dedication and work from a core >> group >> of people, and when that core group gets tired or fed up, the thing dies >> out. >> >> (again, just thinking out loud) I wonder if enough guys from our group >> committed to helping, could a little "piet rag" type newsletter be >> started >> which incorporated a lot of topics we discuss on line, some old articles, >> and >> updates and photos of new and old projects and stories. There seems to >> me to >> be no shortage of material. Maybe something that came out three times a >> year, >> which would give us time to get lots of articles and tons of photos so >> people >> would really want them. >> >> It also seems that the old newsletter and group really got the Piet thing >> growing a lot during those years. It gave people motivation and >> knowledge, >> but it also gave them a sense of comraderie as a "group" sharing a >> commong >> passion. Not only that, but it's always a great boost to hear of how >> many >> other projects are going, and at what stage they're at. >> >> I'm likely opening a big can of worms, but it's a thought that's been in >> my >> head for a couple of years now. >> >> Douwe >> >> ps. since my Piet should be done this year and I don't have my license >> yet, >> I've been plugging away at it for the last eighteen months and passed my >> ckride yesterday!! I'm a pilot!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:15:22 AM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ah goodie ! In a message dated 6/23/2006 7:44:29 AM Central Standard Time, at7000ft@gmail.com writes: So Mountaineers drink Guiness around the camp file eh? do not archive Yeah, it helps the lies flow much easier. :) ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:21:48 AM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jayhawk, Mountaineer----not, CHEESE HEADS ! In a message dated 6/23/2006 7:17:42 AM Central Standard Time, Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov writes: When at Brodhead, become a Cheese Head:) Hey, speaking of Cheese Heads, the fresh cheese curds (I think that's what they're called) are to die for up there. Dennis E. gave me some. I've never had them before I went to Wisconson, and they are the Bomb !! Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:32:04 AM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jayhawk, Mountaineer----not, CHEESE HEADS ! Back in '02 Isabelle and I lunched at a local Brodhead cafe. I selected a local beer, either brewed in Brodhead or near vicinity, and I want to recommend it highly from someone who has been sipping suds since prohibition times. Hell of a lot more body and taste than Miller Lite and others. The old sot in Louisiana ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:35:07 AM PST US From: "Bill Church" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet newsletter --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Bill Church" John, I'm pretty sure we're all interested to see the Travel Air newsletter you put together. As for a Pietenpol newsletter, I would love to see one re-established. Subscribers to this list may remember that about a year ago, there was an attempt to "share" the old, out of print, no longer available for sale, copies of the Buckeye Pietenpol Association newsletters. That all came to a screeching halt when Grant Maclaren made it clear that he held the copyright to those newsletters, and did NOT give anyone permission to copy or redistribute them (as I am sure a certain former resident of Plano, Texas remembers clearly). As a result, most of the information that Douwe was talking about is not available to latecomers (like me). Now, I realize that the advent of the Internet has made photocopying and mailing seem antiquated, and cumbersome, and maybe even unfeasible, but there's still something to be said for reading a hard copy, as opposed to a printout on a video screen. And paper copies of a newsletter are much more likely to be around long after the digital "ones and zeros" have been mis-filed, or disappeared as a result of a computer crash, or saved on a media format that has since become obsolete. I think that if a new Pietenpol newsletter was to be established, it could be set up with two "options"; one option being the digital newsletter, in PDF format, that subscribers would receive electronically, and print out if they so desire. The other option being the old-fashioned paper newsletter, sent via snail mail, for those who do not have internet access. Logically, there would be two subscription prices, with the paper copy obviously being more expensive. Or, maybe a paper copy is just too big a headache. My gut feeling is that most of us would be interested in such a newsletter, but maybe I'm wrong. In any case, thanks for sticking your neck out. Bill C. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hofmann Sent: June 23, 2006 10:15 AM --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: John Hofmann --> Now, I may be sticking my neck out but I can do a newsletter pretty easily. I do one for the Travel Air group currently and can add the Piet with no real proble. I can post a copy of my latest Travel Air newsletter (completed yesterday) online as a pdf if anyone is interested. -john- ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:37:15 AM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ah goodie ! In a message dated 6/23/2006 11:32:08 AM Central Standard Time, gbowen@ptialaska.net writes: As a guy who spent first 20 years of life in WV and still has roots there ('eers never leave they just go away), I can say Corn Likker or 'shine is still available and more tasty than ever, assumin' it's been "laid-up" jest right. Don't get testy Chuck, just a funnin' ya. Gordon Bowen Homer AK/Paden City, West By God Virginia. Hey !! Another 'eer !! At ar Corn Likker sure feels good, burnin' all the way down !! Gotta be careful flyin' Low & Slow over one o' em ar stills...ya just mite git shot !! Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:49:52 AM PST US From: John Hofmann Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet newsletter --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: John Hofmann Travel Air Newsletter Posted Here: http://www.reesgroupinc.com/TravelAir13_2screen.pdf If enough are interested and can contribute, I will get a good Piet one going again. -john- > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Barry Davis" > > Please post the newsletter or send it straight to my email > bed@mindspring.com > I might be able to contribute an article or two every now and then. > Barry > ----- Original Message ----- > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:05 AM > > >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: John Hofmann >> >> >> Congratulations Douwe on the checkride! >> >> Now, I may be sticking my neck out but I can do a newsletter pretty >> easily. >> I do one for the Travel Air group currently and can add the Piet with no >> real proble. I can post a copy of my latest Travel Air newsletter >> (completed >> yesterday) online as a pdf if anyone is interested. >> >> -john- >> >>> Hey guys, >>> >>> This is more of a "thinking out loud" email. I have a stack of old >>> Pietenpol >>> newsletters that covers about fifteen years, and what a HUGE gift they >>> have >>> been to me as piet lover and builder. Not only for advice and ideas, >>> but for >>> inspiration and comraderie. >>> >>> The Brodhead group newsletter seems to have dwindled away, which is a >>> shame. >>> I know that these things take a lot of dedication and work from a core >>> group >>> of people, and when that core group gets tired or fed up, the thing dies >>> out. >>> >>> (again, just thinking out loud) I wonder if enough guys from our group >>> committed to helping, could a little "piet rag" type newsletter be >>> started >>> which incorporated a lot of topics we discuss on line, some old articles, >>> and >>> updates and photos of new and old projects and stories. There seems to >>> me to >>> be no shortage of material. Maybe something that came out three times a >>> year, >>> which would give us time to get lots of articles and tons of photos so >>> people >>> would really want them. >>> >>> It also seems that the old newsletter and group really got the Piet thing >>> growing a lot during those years. It gave people motivation and >>> knowledge, >>> but it also gave them a sense of comraderie as a "group" sharing a >>> commong >>> passion. Not only that, but it's always a great boost to hear of how >>> many >>> other projects are going, and at what stage they're at. >>> >>> I'm likely opening a big can of worms, but it's a thought that's been in >>> my >>> head for a couple of years now. >>> >>> Douwe >>> >>> ps. since my Piet should be done this year and I don't have my license >>> yet, >>> I've been plugging away at it for the last eighteen months and passed my >>> ckride yesterday!! I'm a pilot!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 11:54:47 AM PST US From: "Carl Vought" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum Head Ford A --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Carl Vought" You might also want to check out "Sacramento Vintage Ford"...www.vintageford.com..888-4-BANGER. They have parts for stock and for modified Model-As. On page 703 of their current catalog is shown an aluminum DI head that looks just like the Dan Price head...Carl Vought ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:20 PM > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: HelsperSew@aol.com > > Help!! > Who is the guy who sells the dual ignition aluminum cylinder head for the > Ford A engine and how can I contact him? > > Dan Helsper > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 12:43:28 PM PST US From: "Barry Davis" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet Newsletter WOW! The Travel Air Newsletter really is 1st Class. The Piet Group has never had anything of this quality before and a newsletter for Piets would be greatly appreciated. Barry ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 01:23:07 PM PST US From: "Catdesign" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet newsletter --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesign" What happened to the Broadhead Pietenpol Newsletter? I let my subscription laps after its first year. Their website is still up http://www.pietenpol.org/index.html Instead of starting a new one, why not contact them and see if you can continue it or help them out. Cant imaging it is/was a for profit venture. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=42644#42644 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 04:07:33 PM PST US From: "Gordon Bowen" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ah goodie ! Yep, Chuck Dem real 'eers, up in some holler somewheres is gonna shoot ya thinkin' yer one of dem damn Revenuers trying to shut down the still. But best 'Shine I ever had came from an ole boy in Pigeon Forge TN., it had been "mellared fer a'yar" in old wine barrels somewhere up in the hills bordering TN and NC. Hope the Revenuers never catch that guy. Gordon WVU Class '68 ----- Original Message ----- From: Rcaprd@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 9:36 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ah goodie ! In a message dated 6/23/2006 11:32:08 AM Central Standard Time, gbowen@ptialaska.net writes: As a guy who spent first 20 years of life in WV and still has roots there ('eers never leave they just go away), I can say Corn Likker or 'shine is still available and more tasty than ever, assumin' it's been "laid-up" jest right. Don't get testy Chuck, just a funnin' ya. Gordon Bowen Homer AK/Paden City, West By God Virginia. Hey !! Another 'eer !! At ar Corn Likker sure feels good, burnin' all the way down !! Gotta be careful flyin' Low & Slow over one o' em ar stills...ya just mite git shot !! Chuck G. ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:03:27 PM PST US From: John Hofmann Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jayhawk, Mountaineer----not, CHEESE HEADS ! --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: John Hofmann Now that Mikee has everyone all fired up about Brodhead and Chuck G. is an honorary curd eating (we batter fried them when I was a kid) Cheese Head, it is time to talk of other traditions of this area. The Brodhead EAA bunch does a great job of feeding the masses. I lust over the pork chops on Saturday. This is one they repeat the weekend after Labor Day for the MAAC fly in. However, as any good Wisconsinite can attest (Fred B. back me up on this), we prefer our Friday Night Fish Fry instead of a fish boil. You can't swing a dead cat around here without hitting a good fish fry. So I find I can't bring myself to the blasphemy of the boil. Therefore, I chose to partake in another tradition of the north and that is the bratwurst. Mike and Jack will not be joining me on Friday this year (although I promised Mike a Sunday sausage...not liking how that sounds) so I have room for a few souls for a small feed. I plan on picking up some choice meats (apple brats and the Great White) in New Glarus along with some local brews. Boiled up with beer and onions and finished on the grill, there are few finer meals. It is also guaranteed to bring out the finest in male gassiness. So, if some would like to join me for a meal or just a taste, let me know soon and we will meet up in the woods for a traditional Wisconsin meal and I would enjoy the company. -john- > In a message dated 6/23/2006 7:17:42 AM Central Standard Time, > Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov writes: >> When at Brodhead, become a Cheese Head:) > Hey, speaking of Cheese Heads, the fresh cheese curds (I think that's what > they're called) are to die for up there. Dennis E. gave me some. I've never > had them before I went to Wisconson, and they are the Bomb !! > > Chuck G. > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:03:27 PM PST US From: "gcardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: lady passengers --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gcardinal" Which begs the question: How do you politely and delicately decline the request of a ride from someone who is on the "portly" side without sounding like a pompous jerk? Greg C. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:51 AM > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > > > > Ah yes, Oscar----tis not only appealing but prudent during high density > operations with somewhat marginally > > powered airplanes to seek out the thinner willing passengers at a fly-in, > not the big heavy beer-belly guys (like me) > > who always seem to gravitate to an airplane that was originally designed > to carry people of smaller stature from the > > depression era. My choice of passengers is clearly one that takes into > account safety first: beauty and appeal of > > those passengers does happen to be a spin-off most times tho ! > > Mike C. > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 05:51:50 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: lady passengers --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: If the person has any sence at all and they look like me at 215lbs 5'4" then they should know better than to ask.Due to my size I will be test flying my own aircraft and rightly so.It is as it should be.One of the pilots that overheard my plight once said maybe if the pilot carried less fuel then it could be done.I said no if I'm the wrong weight then so be it.I cannot and will not ask another pilot to fly me in such an aircraft.Besides I still think that front seat is a death trap and I'm probably going to draw some rath for that one but it is my belief.Right or wrong. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gcardinal Sent: June 23, 2006 8:01 PM --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gcardinal" Which begs the question: How do you politely and delicately decline the request of a ride from someone who is on the "portly" side without sounding like a pompous jerk? Greg C. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:51 AM > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy > > > > Ah yes, Oscar----tis not only appealing but prudent during high density > operations with somewhat marginally > > powered airplanes to seek out the thinner willing passengers at a fly-in, > not the big heavy beer-belly guys (like me) > > who always seem to gravitate to an airplane that was originally designed > to carry people of smaller stature from the > > depression era. My choice of passengers is clearly one that takes into > account safety first: beauty and appeal of > > those passengers does happen to be a spin-off most times tho ! > > Mike C. > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 07:19:42 PM PST US From: Clif Dawson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: lady passengers --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Clif Dawson Shouldn't that be "A push on my tush." ?? :-) Clif > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" > > "I got a ride in Mike Cuy's Piet and > all I got was this pat on my tush!" > > Oscar Zuniga ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:20:21 PM PST US From: "D.Reid" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ah goodie ! ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Holland To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 8:42 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ah goodie ! Opps, sorry Chuck, I forgot you told me that. So Mountaineers drink Guiness around the camp file eh? BRILLIANT !!! (idea)...ice me down a few too...(many). I Might...just maybe...possibly...I think but I'm not sure, make it to Broadhead...on the way to that other overpriced flyin...but I cant make any promises. Dave...Down in Flaada do not archive On 6/22/06, Rcaprd@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 6/22/2006 8:54:31 AM Central Standard Time, at7000ft@gmail.com writes: Ditto for me Chuck. Will trade beer (or whatever else you Jayhawkers drink around the camp fire) for some front seat time. Have never flown in a Piet. Rick H Sure think, Rick. I like Guiness, but I'm not a Jayhawk...I'm a W Va Mountaineer !! See ya at Brodhead !! Chuck G. NX770CG -- Rick Holland "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 09:07:40 PM PST US From: "gcardinal" Subject: Pietenpol-List: 3rd flight report My first two flights in NX18235 were flown on calm evenings, no wind, no bumps. The flights were pure bliss with the airplane feeling solid and very easy to fly and land. The third flight was conducted with winds of 16 kts gusting to 20. Woo Hoo! This was a whole different experience. I arrived at Stanton with the wind sock horizontal and wind direction right down the runway. I waited around for an hour to see if the winds would quiet down. After an hour the windsock was only slightly less horizontal. I decided to launch and fly around for an hour assuming the winds would die down. Bad assumption. Taxiing in that wind was very challenging with a skid. It required lots of short bursts of power with lots of rudder. I managed to get lined up on rwy 26 and powered up. Tail came up normally and I was airborne after a 100' ground run. At 10' above the ground I could sense the beginnings of some bumpiness when a gust of wind hit me on the nose and I was almost instantly at 100' agl. My first thought was "I don't really want to be up here right now". I climbed to 500' agl on a northerly track and had to hold a 45 degree crab angle. I turned west and headed directly into a headwind that left me with an estimated groundspeed of about 25 - 30 mph. I had to fight the gnarly beast for the entire flight. I felt like I was just herding and coaxing the plane in the general direction I wanted to travel. It was a struggle on all three axis'and required constant and aggressive control inputs. I was thinking about every glue joint, every bolt and cotter pin and every weld. To those of you building I say get into your Zen mode and do everything right and proper so your not wondering about the structure during a hairy flight. After an hour of this abuse I headed back to Stanton for a landing. It was still very rough and I didn't know what to expect during the landing. I kept some power and speed in reserve on final and came in rather steeply to keep the nose down. In the flare my groundspeed was only about 10 - 15 mph and I rolled no more than 50' after touchdown. Taxiing was impossible at this point with the wind so I shut down and walked the plane back to the hangar. It was a good confidence building flight but I can't imagine flying any appreciable distance like that. Contemplating the flight after the hangar door was shut and locked I concluded that it was a most satisfying evening. Greg Cardinal ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 09:10:39 PM PST US From: "gcardinal" Subject: Pietenpol-List: 3rd flight report My first two flights in NX18235 were flown on calm evenings, no wind, no bumps. The flights were pure bliss with the airplane feeling solid and very easy to fly and land. The third flight was conducted with winds of 16 kts gusting to 20. Woo Hoo! This was a whole different experience. I arrived at Stanton with the wind sock horizontal and wind direction right down the runway. I waited around for an hour to see if the winds would quiet down. After an hour the windsock was only slightly less horizontal. I decided to launch and fly around for an hour assuming the winds would die down. Bad assumption. Taxiing in that wind was very challenging with a skid. It required lots of short bursts of power with lots of rudder. I managed to get lined up on rwy 26 and powered up. Tail came up normally and I was airborne after a 100' ground run. At 10' above the ground I could sense the beginnings of some bumpiness when a gust of wind hit me on the nose and I was almost instantly at 100' agl. My first thought was "I don't really want to be up here right now". I climbed to 500' agl on a northerly track and had to hold a 45 degree crab angle. I turned west and headed directly into a headwind that left me with an estimated groundspeed of about 25 - 30 mph. I had to fight the gnarly beast for the entire flight. I felt like I was just herding and coaxing the plane in the general direction I wanted to travel. It was a struggle on all three axis'and required constant and aggressive control inputs. I was thinking about every glue joint, every bolt and cotter pin and every weld. To those of you building I say get into your Zen mode and do everything right and proper so your not wondering about the structure during a hairy flight. After an hour of this abuse I headed back to Stanton for a landing. It was still very rough and I didn't know what to expect during the landing. I kept some power and speed in reserve on final and came in rather steeply to keep the nose down. In the flare my groundspeed was only about 10 - 15 mph and I rolled no more than 50' after touchdown. Taxiing was impossible at this point with the wind so I shut down and walked the plane back to the hangar. It was a good confidence building flight but I can't imagine flying any appreciable distance like that. Contemplating the flight after the hangar door was shut and locked I concluded that it was a most satisfying evening. Greg Cardinal ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 09:52:23 PM PST US From: "D.Reid" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ah goodie ! ----- Original Message ----- From: D.Reid To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:20 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ah goodie ! ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Holland To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 8:42 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ah goodie ! Opps, sorry Chuck, I forgot you told me that. So Mountaineers drink Guiness around the camp file eh? BRILLIANT !!! (idea)...ice me down a few too...(many). I Might...just maybe...possibly...I think but I'm not sure, make it to Broadhead...on the way to that other overpriced flyin...but I cant make any promises. Dave...Down in Flaada ooooooops. I certainly did'nt mean to imply that Broadhead was over priced by any means! Actually, as I understand it, Broadhead is the perfect flyin to attend for a man like me...with no means...errrr I mean limited means...ahh...I mean resources. I think thats what I mean. Anyway...thats why I'm building the Piet...I'm a man of limited means but "resources" just sounds better. Know what I mean? Dave...(if you know what I mean...please tell me, so I'll know) Down in Florida do not archive On 6/22/06, Rcaprd@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 6/22/2006 8:54:31 AM Central Standard Time, at7000ft@gmail.com writes: Ditto for me Chuck. Will trade beer (or whatever else you Jayhawkers drink around the camp fire) for some front seat time. Have never flown in a Piet. Rick H Sure think, Rick. I like Guiness, but I'm not a Jayhawk...I'm a W Va Mountaineer !! See ya at Brodhead !! Chuck G. NX770CG -- Rick Holland "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 11:01:01 PM PST US From: Clif Dawson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ah goodie ! Or the truth come out! :-) Isn't it interesting that you prefer a beer associated with something that flies. So Mountaineers drink Guiness around the camp file eh? do not archive Yeah, it helps the lies flow much easier. :)