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1. 04:38 AM - Fish fries, newsletters, etc (TBYH@aol.com)
2. 05:52 AM - newsletter (Douwe Blumberg)
3. 05:53 AM - grant maclaren contact info (Douwe Blumberg)
4. 07:53 AM - Re: Piet Newsletter (Roman Bukolt)
5. 07:54 AM - Re: Fish fries, newsletters, etc (Kip and Beth Gardner)
6. 09:01 AM - Re: Piet Newsletter (Kip and Beth Gardner)
7. 10:37 AM - Re: Jayhawk, Mountaineer----not, CHEESE HEADS ! (D.Reid)
8. 12:35 PM - Re: lady passengers (KMHeide)
9. 01:27 PM - Re: Fish fries, newsletters, etc (Mike Volckmann)
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| Subject: | Fish fries, newsletters, etc |
Yep, fish fries are very popular on Friday nights around Wisconsin. In fact,
I missed my weekly dose last night (had a chicken sandwich instead as I'm
trying to lose some tonnage and make the Piet fly well when she's finished!) and
so I'm suffering with a little withdrawal this morning.
I still maintain that Grant McLAren doesn't own the copyright to the old BPA
newsletters -- as the editor he was working for the BPA. The dues paying
members paid for the newsletter and therefore if anyone owns the copyright it is
they, especially if Grant was reimbursed for the printing costs, etc. That said,
I'd be willing to contribute articles/photos for a new newsletter...of
course, my Piet isn't flying yet, so don't know how much material I can contribute...
Guinness -- reminds me of the story about the brew masters convention. All
the brew masters from around the world were there and after a hard day of
seminars and workshops they all gathered for happy hour in the local watering hole.
The barkeep asked the fellow from Miller what he'd like to drink. He replied,
"Miller High Life, of course! The champagne of bottled beers!"
The barkeep turned to Bud guy and asked for his request. "I'll have a Bud --
the King of Beers!" And the guy from La Crosse's City Brewing asked for a La
Crosse City Lager. In turn each brew master asked for a bottle of their own
beer.
Turning to the Guinness brew master the barkeep asked, "What'll you have?"
The Guinness man said, "I'll have an ice-cold Coca-Cola."
The other brew masters about choked and asked the Guinness man what the heck
was wrong, to which the Guinness man sneered, "Well, when you all decide to
order beer, I'll order beer!"
Regards,
Fred B.
La Crosse, WI
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Thanks everyone for their congrats on my pilot's license!
got it in a Cessna (sorry!) but am now working on my tailwheel
endorsement in a cub.
Regarding a possible newsletter, here are my thoughts. Please respond
or contact me with your thoughts and if you are interested in seriously
helping.
I think that a "marque" of airplane or car benefits greatly from a good
newsletter. It helps develop a hardcore following and allows them to
communicate, learn from eachother and develops a sense of comraderie
within the following. I think the Piet benefited greatly from the
wonderful newsletter of the eighties and nineties. The Brodhead
newsletter seems to have petered out. It was very nice, but the last
few years have been very light in terms of content and interest. This
seems to be the pitfall of these volunteer newsletters however. The
idea sounds good, lots of people offer to help, and then the enthusiasm
runs out leaving a few "doers" to slog through with their commitment.
Maybe some of those guys would be willing to share their experiences.
We have a wonderful offer from John Hofmann (ck out the incredible
Travel Air newsletter he does!) to put one together. So I'm thinking,
what if we got together a "core" group of people who have the time and
energy to make a commitment to something like this, and talk about
getting a newsletter together. If we only tried for three a year, this
would make the workload relatively spread out, and would make them
bigger, more interesting reading.
We could write articles, get others to do so, track down piet
owners/builders/flyers and get their stories and photos.
I would be willing to participate for one. I can write, and get others
to contribute and will commit to stick with it to keep the Piet alive
and well.
thoughts?
Douwe
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| Subject: | grant maclaren contact info |
Can someone get me Grant MacClaren's contact info?
Regardless of past experiences, I'd like to contact him to at least get
his advice on what it takes to run a good newsletter. He certainly did
a great one for a long time.
Thanks,
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Piet Newsletter |
Hey!
Are ANY of you guys aware of the BRODHEAD PIETENPOL ASSOCIATION
Newsletter published four times per year?
Good articles, news from builder's, construction tips, ads for parts or
planes for sale, and a lot of good stories.
$16.00/yr.
Broodhead Pietenpol Association
c/o The Independent Register
P.O. Box 255
Brodhead, WI. 53520-0255
Roman Bukolt, Corvair Piet in process
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| Subject: | Re: Fish fries, newsletters, etc |
I agree with Fred on the copyright thing. I have a set of the old
newsletters & nowhere in any of them does it state that the material
is copyrighted. There is a statement that the newsletter is intended
for BPA members only, but what's to prevent a member form copying &
distributing material if he/she sees fit? - nothing so far as I can
see. I think Grant is blowing smoke - if he's not, then he should
produce proof of the copyright, not just threaten people. Even if he
did have a copyright, it would only be for those issues he edited -
Frank Pavliga & his Dad did all the early BPA newsletters & Frank has
never said one word regarding his belief that he has ownership or
non-ownership of that material.
Right now, I'm pretty much out of the loop of aviation - I'm
simultaneously looking for a new job, buying a 46-acre farm near
Wooster, OH with several partners, and running a market garden out of
my back yard on the side, so life is pretty hectic. I did get a
little work done on the Corvair engine this spring, but that's all.
The EAA Chapter 82 Corvair Wings & Wheels Fly-In was a sucess despite
the fact tha William Wynne decided not to come & the weather prevent
all but a couple of planes from coming. However, Bill clapp showed
up wirth his KR-2S & did a great job of demonstrating its
capabilities. We also had nearly 20 cars show up from as far away as
Detroit and Eastern PA, including a truly cool, beautifully
maintained, Corvair-powered Porsch ("Porschair"). Most importantly,
everyone who came had a good time.
If things settle down on the job hunt & farm purchase deal I might
try to hitch a ride to Brodhead with somebody - otherwise, I'll have
to sit this year out.
Cheers,
Kip Gardner
> I still maintain that Grant McLAren doesn't own the copyright to
>the old BPA newsletters -- as the editor he was working for the BPA.
>The dues paying members paid for the newsletter and therefore if
>anyone owns the copyright it is they, especially if Grant was
>reimbursed for the printing costs, etc. That said, I'd be willing to
>contribute articles/photos for a new newsletter...of course, my Piet
>isn't flying yet, so don't know how much material I can contribute...
Regards,
Fred B.
La Crosse, WI
--
North Canton, OH
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| Subject: | Re: Piet Newsletter |
Romman,
Yep, a lot of us are. I subscribed for 4+ yrs. & it was OK, but I
felt it was lacking in "meat" as it were. I understand the reasons
for that & several people have made comments about how hard it is to
keep something like that going at a level that's attractive to a wide
audience. At this point, I think I have access to much more than
enough informatiton to get my project done & it's more important to
put my focus on making time to work on it than on reading newsletters
& such. Not to say that the BPA newsletter doesn't have value, just
not my current need or want.
Kip Gardner
At 9:50 AM -0500 6/24/06, Roman Bukolt wrote:
>Hey!
>Are ANY of you guys aware of the BRODHEAD PIETENPOL ASSOCIATION
>Newsletter published four times per year?
>Good articles, news from builder's, construction tips, ads for parts
>or planes for sale, and a lot of good stories.
>
>$16.00/yr.
>
>Broodhead Pietenpol Association
>c/o The Independent Register
>P.O. Box 255
>Brodhead, WI. 53520-0255
>
>Roman Bukolt, Corvair Piet in process
--
North Canton, OH
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| Subject: | Re: Jayhawk, Mountaineer----not, CHEESE HEADS ! |
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jayhawk, Mountaineer----not, CHEESE HEADS
!
Back in '02 Isabelle and I lunched at a local Brodhead cafe. I
selected a local beer, either brewed in Brodhead or near vicinity, and I
want to recommend it highly from someone who has been sipping suds since
prohibition times. Hell of a lot more body and taste than Miller Lite
and others.
The old sot in Louisiana
I agree Corky. If I want a good "cleaning out" I just have one bottle
of a Miller product. Doesnt matter what it is as long as it says Miller
somewhere on the label.
Just a few sips and I'm good to "go" for days! Problem is I cant go
anywhere beyond sprinting distance to a restroom.
Dave...(on the "run") down in Florida
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| Subject: | Re: lady passengers |
Hey Greg try this.............tee-hee-hee
You have a huge amount of redundant tissue to cram into my front seat. Get lost!
You have an anterior bulge to great to keep my nose of the Airplane in the air!
Is that cranial rectal inversion or are you pregnant? Either way, you are not
going to fit in my front seat!
Lastly and my favorite....How do you expect me to cram a sack of potatoes into
a cup? Ain't happenen............
Sincerely,
Midwest poet
gcardinal <gcardinal@mn.rr.com> wrote:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gcardinal"
Which begs the question:
How do you politely and delicately decline the request of a ride from
someone who is on the "portly" side without sounding like a pompous jerk?
Greg C.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:51 AM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
>
>
>
> Ah yes, Oscar----tis not only appealing but prudent during high density
> operations with somewhat marginally
>
> powered airplanes to seek out the thinner willing passengers at a fly-in,
> not the big heavy beer-belly guys (like me)
>
> who always seem to gravitate to an airplane that was originally designed
> to carry people of smaller stature from the
>
> depression era. My choice of passengers is clearly one that takes into
> account safety first: beauty and appeal of
>
> those passengers does happen to be a spin-off most times tho !
>
> Mike C.
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fish fries, newsletters, etc |
Kip,
With United States law there does not have to be any notice of copyright. The
copy right is automatically granted the creator of the document and remains his
until he sells or gives it to someone else.
mike
----- Original Message ----
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 7:58:49 AM
I agree with Fred on the copyright thing. I have a set of the old newsletters
& nowhere in any of them does it state that the material is copyrighted. There
is a statement that the newsletter is intended for BPA members only, but what's
to prevent a member form copying & distributing material if he/she sees fit?
- nothing so far as I can see. I think Grant is blowing smoke - if he's not,
then he should produce proof of the copyright, not just threaten people.
Even if he did have a copyright, it would only be for those issues he edited -
Frank Pavliga & his Dad did all the early BPA newsletters & Frank has never said
one word regarding his belief that he has ownership or non-ownership of that
material.
Right now, I'm pretty much out of the loop of aviation - I'm simultaneously looking
for a new job, buying a 46-acre farm near Wooster, OH with several partners,
and running a market garden out of my back yard on the side, so life is pretty
hectic. I did get a little work done on the Corvair engine this spring,
but that's all. The EAA Chapter 82 Corvair Wings & Wheels Fly-In was a sucess
despite the fact tha William Wynne decided not to come & the weather prevent
all but a couple of planes from coming. However, Bill clapp showed up wirth his
KR-2S & did a great job of demonstrating its capabilities. We also had nearly
20 cars show up from as far away as Detroit and Eastern PA, including a truly
cool, beautifully maintained, Corvair-powered Porsch ("Porschair"). Most importantly,
everyone who came had a good time.
If things settle down on the job hunt & farm purchase deal I might try to hitch
a ride to Brodhead with somebody - otherwise, I'll have to sit this year out.
Cheers,
Kip Gardner
I still maintain that Grant McLAren doesn't own the copyright to the old BPA newsletters
-- as the editor he was working for the BPA. The dues paying members
paid for the newsletter and therefore if anyone owns the copyright it is they,
especially if Grant was reimbursed for the printing costs, etc. That said,
I'd be willing to contribute articles/photos for a new newsletter...of course,
my Piet isn't flying yet, so don't know how much material I can contribute...
Regards,
Fred B.
La Crosse, WI
--
North Canton, OH
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