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1. 05:05 AM - BPA newsletter (Douwe Blumberg)
2. 06:03 AM - Re: lady passengers (gcardinal)
3. 06:09 AM - Re: Copyright Law (flywrite@hughes.net)
4. 07:25 AM - Re: Re: Copyright Law (Kip and Beth Gardner)
5. 07:37 AM - Re: lady passengers (Steve Glass)
6. 07:52 AM - Re: lady passengers (Isablcorky@aol.com)
7. 08:36 AM - Re: Re: Copyright Law (Mark Blackwell)
8. 12:27 PM - Re: Re: Copyright Law (Jeff Boatright)
9. 02:25 PM - Re: Re: Copyright Law (Doyle Combs)
10. 06:33 PM - dye for dope (Douwe Blumberg)
11. 07:21 PM - Re: Re: Copyright Law (Mark Blackwell)
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Roman,
I subscribe to the BPA newsletter too, and have enjoyed it... to a
point. As I mentioned in my emails, the substance and regularity seemed
to trail off a couple years ago to the point where I was occassionally
getting a two or four page newsletter with very little of interest.
I respect anyone who has the gumption to get up and freely "do"
something like this and my hat is off to them. It does seem however,
that they need help or to pass the baton.
I'll try to contact them for a status update and pick their brains.
Douwe
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Subject: | Re: lady passengers |
I don't think I would win may friends with these suggestions.........
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: KMHeide
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: lady passengers
Hey Greg try this.............tee-hee-hee
1.. You have a huge amount of redundant tissue to cram into my front
seat. Get lost!
2.. You have an anterior bulge to great to keep my nose of the
Airplane in the air!
3.. Is that cranial rectal inversion or are you pregnant? Either
way, you are not going to fit in my front seat!
4.. Lastly and my favorite....How do you expect me to cram a sack of
potatoes into a cup? Ain't happenen............
Sincerely,
Midwest poet
gcardinal <gcardinal@mn.rr.com> wrote:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gcardinal"
Which begs the question:
How do you politely and delicately decline the request of a ride
from
someone who is on the "portly" side without sounding like a pompous
jerk?
Greg C.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:51 AM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
>
>
>
> Ah yes, Oscar----tis not only appealing but prudent during high
density
> operations with somewhat marginally
>
> powered airplanes to seek out the thinner willing passengers at a
fly-in,
> not the big heavy beer-belly guys (like me)
>
> who always seem to gravitate to an airplane that was originally
designed
> to carry people of smaller stature from the
>
> depression era. My choice of passengers is clearly one that takes
into
> account safety first: beauty and appeal of
>
> those passengers does happen to be a spin-off most times tho !
>
> Mike C.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Copyright Law |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "flywrite@hughes.net" <flywrite@hughes.net>
As a magazine publisher with some experience with copyrights, I believe
someone has misinformed Mike Volckermann about copyright law. The U.S.
Patent and Copyright Office (www.uspto.gov) does not automatically
issue a copyright, nor does any other agency do so. Indeed, a copyright
can be issued only after the applicant has filed an application, paid
the requisite fee, and the application referred to an examiner. If the
examiner finds the application acceptable in its own right, and does
not infringe upon any other copyright, a certificate of copyright can
be issued. No one can claim that anything is, or has been, copyrighted
unless a certificate has been issued to cover the specific material for
which the copyright is claimed. However, if an applicaton has been
filed, the claimant can use the term "Copyright applied for" to alert
would-be users of the material to the danger of copyright
violation/prosecution.
This has nothing to do per se with the Broadhead newsletter. However,
if the claim is being made that any or all of the newsletters are
covered by a copyright, then an unexpired (or renewed) USPTO copyright
document to that effect would settle the matter once and for all.
In the absence of such a document, I believe a patent attorney would
advise that the material is in the public domain.
Dick Carden
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Subject: | Re: Copyright Law |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net>
Dick,
Thanks for the clarification, I thought this was the case, having
some friends who publish in the music business, but my personal
experience is not there, so I could not authoratatively reply to Mike.
So, my original question stands, does Grant McClaren hold a copyright
for the old issues of the BPA newsletter that he edited or not?
Where's the proof?
I have heard that he has been quite belligerent towards anyone who
has wanted to reprint material, but to my knowledge, he has not
presented any proof to anyone that he holds such a copyright. As I
said before, all of my old copies have absolutely no mention anywhere
in them that the material is copyrighted or that a copyright has been
applied for. In fact, I think that the fact that he put in a
statement that the material is intended for BPA members leads me to
believe that the material IS NOT copyrighted & that he put that
statement there to try to cover his ass without going to the trouble
of getting one, and perhaps as a C-H-A for liability as well.
The reason that I'm making an issue of this is that there is a true
wealth of information in those old issues & it should be available to
the community, not hoarded by Grant as if he were some kind of troll
guarding a treasure.
Kip Gardner
At 1:07 PM +0000 6/25/06, flywrite@hughes.net wrote:
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "flywrite@hughes.net"
><flywrite@hughes.net>
>
>As a magazine publisher with some experience with copyrights, I believe
>someone has misinformed Mike Volckermann about copyright law. The U.S.
>Patent and Copyright Office (www.uspto.gov) does not automatically
>issue a copyright, nor does any other agency do so. Indeed, a copyright
>can be issued only after the applicant has filed an application, paid
>the requisite fee, and the application referred to an examiner. If the
>examiner finds the application acceptable in its own right, and does
>not infringe upon any other copyright, a certificate of copyright can
>be issued. No one can claim that anything is, or has been, copyrighted
>unless a certificate has been issued to cover the specific material for
>which the copyright is claimed. However, if an applicaton has been
>filed, the claimant can use the term "Copyright applied for" to alert
>would-be users of the material to the danger of copyright
>violation/prosecution.
>
>This has nothing to do per se with the Broadhead newsletter. However,
>if the claim is being made that any or all of the newsletters are
>covered by a copyright, then an unexpired (or renewed) USPTO copyright
>document to that effect would settle the matter once and for all.
>In the absence of such a document, I believe a patent attorney would
>advise that the material is in the public domain.
>
>Dick Carden
>
>
--
North Canton, OH
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Subject: | Re: lady passengers |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Glass" <redsglass@hotmail.com>
Perhaps a calibrated pole like the buses used to use above a line full fare.
A belt or.......
I think a lightweight bathroom scale in its own fitted compartment under the
front seat. The dial modified to a politically correct with a green or red
zone................or the electronically minded could modify a digital one
to say .....you are accepted or the dreaded "too heavy tooo heavy tooooo
heavy" perhaps even a ignition interlock to prevent trying.....
Steve in Maine
>From: "gcardinal" <gcardinal@mn.rr.com>
>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: lady passengers
>Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:03:05 -0500
>
>I don't think I would win may friends with these suggestions.........
>
>Greg
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: KMHeide
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 2:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: lady passengers
>
>
> Hey Greg try this.............tee-hee-hee
>
> 1.. You have a huge amount of redundant tissue to cram into my front
>seat. Get lost!
> 2.. You have an anterior bulge to great to keep my nose of the
>Airplane in the air!
> 3.. Is that cranial rectal inversion or are you pregnant? Either way,
>you are not going to fit in my front seat!
> 4.. Lastly and my favorite....How do you expect me to cram a sack of
>potatoes into a cup? Ain't happenen............
> Sincerely,
>
> Midwest poet
>
> gcardinal <gcardinal@mn.rr.com> wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "gcardinal"
>
> Which begs the question:
>
> How do you politely and delicately decline the request of a ride from
> someone who is on the "portly" side without sounding like a pompous
>jerk?
>
> Greg C.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:51 AM
>
>
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
> >
> >
> >
> > Ah yes, Oscar----tis not only appealing but prudent during high
>density
> > operations with somewhat marginally
> >
> > powered airplanes to seek out the thinner willing passengers at a
>fly-in,
> > not the big heavy beer-belly guys (like me)
> >
> > who always seem to gravitate to an airplane that was originally
>designed
> > to carry people of smaller stature from the
> >
> > depression era. My choice of passengers is clearly one that takes
>into
> > account safety first: beauty and appeal of
> >
> > those passengers does happen to be a spin-off most times tho !
> >
> > Mike C.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: | Re: lady passengers |
Do Not Archive
Reading about these weighty female passengers brought to mind an old story:
this husband failed to remember his wedding anniversary
his lovin, affectunate wifie demanded that there be something in the
driveway soon that would go from 0 to 200 in a few seconds. The next morning she
looked out and saw a small package in the driveway. when she opened the box it
contained a new bathroom scale. Word has it she may be up for parole in 2024
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Subject: | Re: Copyright Law |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Mark Blackwell" <markb1958@verizon.net>
The government does not have to issue a copyright. Nothing must be filed
with the copyright office for the work to be under copyright. Filing with
the copyright office allows for increased penalities if infringed upon.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:07 AM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "flywrite@hughes.net"
> <flywrite@hughes.net>
>
> As a magazine publisher with some experience with copyrights, I believe
> someone has misinformed Mike Volckermann about copyright law. The U.S.
> Patent and Copyright Office (www.uspto.gov) does not automatically
> issue a copyright, nor does any other agency do so. Indeed, a copyright
> can be issued only after the applicant has filed an application, paid
> the requisite fee, and the application referred to an examiner. If the
> examiner finds the application acceptable in its own right, and does
> not infringe upon any other copyright, a certificate of copyright can
> be issued. No one can claim that anything is, or has been, copyrighted
> unless a certificate has been issued to cover the specific material for
> which the copyright is claimed. However, if an applicaton has been
> filed, the claimant can use the term "Copyright applied for" to alert
> would-be users of the material to the danger of copyright
> violation/prosecution.
>
> This has nothing to do per se with the Broadhead newsletter. However,
> if the claim is being made that any or all of the newsletters are
> covered by a copyright, then an unexpired (or renewed) USPTO copyright
> document to that effect would settle the matter once and for all.
> In the absence of such a document, I believe a patent attorney would
> advise that the material is in the public domain.
>
> Dick Carden
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Copyright Law |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
Correct.
http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html
>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Mark Blackwell" <markb1958@verizon.net>
>
>The government does not have to issue a copyright. Nothing must be
>filed with the copyright office for the work to be under copyright.
>Filing with the copyright office allows for increased penalities if
>infringed upon.
>
--
Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
Atlanta, GA 30322
Editor-in-Chief
Molecular Vision
http://www.molvis.org/
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Subject: | Re: Copyright Law |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Doyle Combs" <doylecombskeith@earthlink.net>
This article makes it clear. It seems to me that there are enough
experienced people on this net who could donate pictures and material to
publish their own publication without arguing with someone who has produced
material in the past. Mike, why don't you submit your drawings and other
material that has already been posted on the net and in the archives. Just a
thought. I have read some really great ideas pass through this net.
Doyle Combs
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 2:24 PM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
>
> Correct.
>
> http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html
>
>
>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Mark Blackwell"
>><markb1958@verizon.net>
>>
>>The government does not have to issue a copyright. Nothing must be filed
>>with the copyright office for the work to be under copyright. Filing with
>>the copyright office allows for increased penalities if infringed upon.
>>
>
> --
> Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor
> Department of Ophthalmology
> Emory University School of Medicine
> Atlanta, GA 30322
> Editor-in-Chief
> Molecular Vision
> http://www.molvis.org/
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
>
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Guys, (and gals?)
I'm using the old fashioned butyrate dope system over my ceconite. I'm
about ready to start spraying. The first coat must be nitrate dope as
butyrate doesn't adhere to ceconite, whereas nitrate does. The problem
is the only non tautening nitrate I could find was untinted, and I'd
like a little tint to help with even coverage.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to what might work as a tint? is
there any reason a little rit dye or food coloring wouldn't? (there's
water in there)
thanks,
Douwe
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Subject: | Re: Copyright Law |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Mark Blackwell" <markb1958@verizon.net>
There is one thing though that might come up. Publishing an article in a
mag doesn't necessarily give the copyright to the editor or publisher. It
would depend on how the agreement was written. A publication may be given
"one time use rights" which only allows the publication in that months
issue. A magazine can claim a copyright for that issue, but may or may not
hold the copyright for the work itself. The newsletter claiming copyright,
in reality might not have it, but that wouldn't necessarily meant if fell
into public domain either.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 3:24 PM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
>
> Correct.
>
> http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html
>
>
>>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Mark Blackwell"
>><markb1958@verizon.net>
>>
>>The government does not have to issue a copyright. Nothing must be filed
>>with the copyright office for the work to be under copyright. Filing with
>>the copyright office allows for increased penalities if infringed upon.
>>
>
> --
> Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor
> Department of Ophthalmology
> Emory University School of Medicine
> Atlanta, GA 30322
> Editor-in-Chief
> Molecular Vision
> http://www.molvis.org/
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
>
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