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Mon 07/03/06


Total Messages Posted: 13



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     1. 01:15 AM - Re: Cont. 65 cruise and prop numbers (Rcaprd@aol.com)
     2. 05:12 AM - Re: Going to Brodhead and dogs? and the night before Chriastmas (Jack T. Textor)
     3. 05:47 AM - Continental A65 8F (Oscar Zuniga)
     4. 06:28 AM - Re: Going to Brodhead and dogs? and the night before Chriastmas (Roman Bukolt)
     5. 06:28 AM - Re: Continental A65 8F (Gene & Tammy)
     6. 06:44 AM - Re: Continental A65 8F (BPA)
     7. 09:06 AM - Re: Going to Brodhead and dogs? and the night before Chriastmas (John Egan)
     8. 10:28 AM - Re: Continental A65 8F (Rcaprd@aol.com)
     9. 11:00 AM - Re: Going to Brodhead and dogs? and the night (John Ford)
    10. 11:42 AM - Re: Going to Brodhead and dogs? and the night ()
    11. 06:25 PM - Brodhead dreamin' (Oscar Zuniga)
    12. 07:04 PM - Re: Brodhead dreamin' (Gene & Tammy)
    13. 09:54 PM - Re: Brodhead dreamin' (Rcaprd@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:15:44 AM PST US
    From: Rcaprd@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Cont. 65 cruise and prop numbers
    In a message dated 7/2/2006 6:21:36 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov writes: Gene-- I cruise at 2150 rpm using a 72" x 42 pitch wood prop and get about 71 mph from my A-65 in the Air Camper. My prop is a good combination of good climb and fair cruise speeds. I think Jack Phillips has the same size prop if I'm not mistaken. Mike C. My numbers, Cont.A65 with my homebuilt 72 X 42 prop, are very close to what Mike gets. Sometimes I like to pull power to about 1900 rpm to save fuel, and just enjoy the sceenery !! At 1800 rpm, she does about 45 - 48 mph level flight. Chuck G. NX770CG


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    Time: 05:12:51 AM PST US
    From: "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
    Subject: Going to Brodhead and dogs? and the night before Chriastmas
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com> Steve, Glad you can make it. I'm hoping to be there Friday the 21st. Friday and Saturday seem to be the big days. Most everyone leaves for Oshkosh Sunday. It's very informal. Most people donate $10-20 for the weekend. When you donate, buy your dinner ticket. There are portable toilets and a couple of showers. You will see great people and planes. There is usually some imbibing after the dinner flights and a bonfire after dark. See you there! Jack Textor Des Moines Hi Everybody Well it looks like Steve from Maine will be at Brodhead. I know it has been said before but I never thought I would be going so......... I did not pay attention. Could somebody give me the times and things to do and see. I remember something about buying a dinner ticket early. Did we have to buy a pass for the weekend etc? I will be meeting my fianc who is driving across country with her 13 year old son and two dogs. Her son has just completed 6 months of intensive chemo for ALL luekimia and we are all looking forward to some fun. Are leashed dogs OK? I assume fiance's are ok off the leash but I might be on a short one for that comment. As I have not yet seen a Piet in the flesh I'm looking forward to it. In fact it is 1.30 am as I write this. I feel like a kid the night before Christmas. Looking forward to meeting some of you. Thanks and best regards Steve in Maine


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    Time: 05:47:43 AM PST US
    From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Continental A65 8F
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> Gene wrote- >I'm still using mineral oil to break in the engine. What motor oil >works best for you? I asked the same question some months ago, and to save you the time going through all the great responses I got, here's the bottom line, snipped from my post in the archives: >it was unanimous that the Aeroshell W100, SAE50 ashless dispersant is what >is recommended. So let it be written... so let it be done! And to those >who asked, this is NOT for break-in duty. And you asked: >I'm also wondering what prop others have found to work best for them? NX41CC has a Hegy 72x42 prop on it. I believe you'll find that most of the people on this list flying with the A65 have a 72x42 prop. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 06:28:19 AM PST US
    From: "Roman Bukolt" <conceptmodels@mailbag.com>
    Subject: Re: Going to Brodhead and dogs? and the night before Chriastmas
    Brodhead is very informal, and laid back.. No charges for anything like entrance, or parking. Dogs on leash OK just clean up after their droppings. Food is available and very good and prices are right but the evening dinner tickets must be bought early because they are very popular and they may be somewhat limited in quantity plus they need a head count to know how to prepare. Camping is available at no charge. Much more relaxing than Oshkosh! Come and enjoy! "And we'll leave the light on for ya!" Romey Bukolt Piet/Corvair builder Do not archive


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    Time: 06:28:19 AM PST US
    From: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Continental A65 8F
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net> Anyone know for sure how many hours I should run straight mineral oil before I change over to Aeroshell W100, SAE50? One A&P suggested I do it now at 50 hours and another suggested I run mineral another 20 hours. The continental manual doesn't say. Gene ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 7:45 AM > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" > <taildrags@hotmail.com> > > Gene wrote- > >>I'm still using mineral oil to break in the engine. What motor oil >>works best for you? > > I asked the same question some months ago, and to save you the time going > through all the great responses I got, here's the bottom line, snipped > from my post in the archives: > >>it was unanimous that the Aeroshell W100, SAE50 ashless dispersant is what >>is recommended. So let it be written... so let it be done! And to those >>who asked, this is NOT for break-in duty. > > And you asked: > >>I'm also wondering what prop others have found to work best for them? > > NX41CC has a Hegy 72x42 prop on it. I believe you'll find that most of > the people on this list flying with the A65 have a 72x42 prop. > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > >


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    Time: 06:44:48 AM PST US
    From: "BPA" <BPA@bpaengines.com>
    Subject: Continental A65 8F
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "BPA" <BPA@BPAENGINES.COM> Gene, Typically, the change should occur at around 50 hours. Aeroshell W100 is what we recommend, but run what you feel confident in. Allen Barrett Barrett Precision Engines, Inc. www.barrettprecisionengines.com -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene & Tammy Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 7:09 AM --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net> Anyone know for sure how many hours I should run straight mineral oil before I change over to Aeroshell W100, SAE50? One A&P suggested I do it now at 50 hours and another suggested I run mineral another 20 hours. The continental manual doesn't say. Gene ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 7:45 AM > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" > <taildrags@hotmail.com> > > Gene wrote- > >>I'm still using mineral oil to break in the engine. What motor oil >>works best for you? > > I asked the same question some months ago, and to save you the time going > through all the great responses I got, here's the bottom line, snipped > from my post in the archives: > >>it was unanimous that the Aeroshell W100, SAE50 ashless dispersant is what >>is recommended. So let it be written... so let it be done! And to those >>who asked, this is NOT for break-in duty. > > And you asked: > >>I'm also wondering what prop others have found to work best for them? > > NX41CC has a Hegy 72x42 prop on it. I believe you'll find that most of > the people on this list flying with the A65 have a 72x42 prop. > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > >


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    Time: 09:06:27 AM PST US
    From: John Egan <johnegan99@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Going to Brodhead and dogs? and the night before Chriastmas
    Hi Steve, You may also see the Brodhead EAA chapter 431 web site (www.eaa431.org) which includes the fly-in dates and some photos of the little airport to give you an idea of the area. I think the site also has the names of some local motels. For those who may have a little spare time, there is a small brewery in the near by town of New Glarus, Wi. They offer self guided tours and samples. The town (New Glarus) is dressed up like an old Swiss village with Swiss food and shops. John Greenville, Wi. Steve Glass <redsglass@hotmail.com> wrote: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Glass" Hi Everybody Well it looks like Steve from Maine will be at Brodhead. I know it has been said before but I never thought I would be going so......... I did not pay attention. --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.


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    Time: 10:28:51 AM PST US
    From: Rcaprd@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Continental A65 8F
    In a message dated 7/3/2006 8:30:05 AM Central Standard Time, zharvey@bellsouth.net writes: Anyone know for sure how many hours I should run straight mineral oil before I change over to Aeroshell W100, SAE50? One A&P suggested I do it now at 50 hours and another suggested I run mineral another 20 hours. The continental manual doesn't say. Gene Gene, I used Aeroshell Mineral oil for break in. I did my first oil change after about 3 or 4 hours. Second one after about 20 hrs, and third one after about 25 hours, then used Aeroshell W100 ever since. I have chrome cylinders, and it took nearly 100 hours of operation before the oil consumption started to be reduced. I now have about 300 hours on the engine. Chuck G. NX770CG


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    Time: 11:00:20 AM PST US
    From: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu>
    Subject: Re: Going to Brodhead and dogs? and the night
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu> Steve, A couple of years ago I took the wife and 2 kids (6 and 11 years old at the time) and camped with friends who brought their small dog. It was perfect. There will be plenty of children (of literally all ages) and perhaps a dozen dogs on leashes. You will all have a blast. Plenty of room to camp (for a small $$$ donation in the coffee can on the freezer) and a couple of showers in the main hangar, should you feel the need. In the 4 years I've gone, I've not had time or inclination to leave the field (except to go for a ride in Ken Perkins' lovely orange time machine). ;) I won't be going this year, as I will be motorcycling in Nova Scotia and Newfoundland instead and couldn't move that trip back a week to allow me to go to Brodhead also this summer. Have fun, and I'll see you all next summer! John John Ford john@indstate.edu 812-237-8542 "Well...if you can't believe what you read in comic books then what CAN you believe?" - Bullwinkle J Moose *************************************************************************** This email, and any attachments, thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. *************************************************************************** >>> johnegan99@yahoo.com Monday, July 03, 2006 12:04 PM >>> Hi Steve, You may also see the Brodhead EAA chapter 431 web site (www.eaa431.org) which includes the fly-in dates and some photos of the little airport to give you an idea of the area. I think the site also has the names of some local motels. For those who may have a little spare time, there is a small brewery in the near by town of New Glarus, Wi. They offer self guided tours and samples. The town (New Glarus) is dressed up like an old Swiss village with Swiss food and shops. John Greenville, Wi. Steve Glass <redsglass@hotmail.com> wrote: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Glass" Hi Everybody Well it looks like Steve from Maine will be at Brodhead. I know it has been said before but I never thought I would be going so......... I did not pay attention. --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.


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    Time: 11:42:53 AM PST US
    From: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
    Subject: Going to Brodhead and dogs? and the night
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <harvey.rule@bell.ca> Have fun on the Rock! Do not archive -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Ford Sent: July 3, 2006 1:59 PM --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "John Ford" <Jford@indstate.edu> Steve, A couple of years ago I took the wife and 2 kids (6 and 11 years old at the time) and camped with friends who brought their small dog. It was perfect. There will be plenty of children (of literally all ages) and perhaps a dozen dogs on leashes. You will all have a blast. Plenty of room to camp (for a small $$$ donation in the coffee can on the freezer) and a couple of showers in the main hangar, should you feel the need. In the 4 years I've gone, I've not had time or inclination to leave the field (except to go for a ride in Ken Perkins' lovely orange time machine). ;) I won't be going this year, as I will be motorcycling in Nova Scotia and Newfoundland instead and couldn't move that trip back a week to allow me to go to Brodhead also this summer. Have fun, and I'll see you all next summer! John John Ford john@indstate.edu 812-237-8542 "Well...if you can't believe what you read in comic books then what CAN you believe?" - Bullwinkle J Moose ************************************************************************ *** This email, and any attachments, thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. ************************************************************************ *** >>> johnegan99@yahoo.com Monday, July 03, 2006 12:04 PM >>> Hi Steve, You may also see the Brodhead EAA chapter 431 web site (www.eaa431.org) which includes the fly-in dates and some photos of the little airport to give you an idea of the area. I think the site also has the names of some local motels. For those who may have a little spare time, there is a small brewery in the near by town of New Glarus, Wi. They offer self guided tours and samples. The town (New Glarus) is dressed up like an old Swiss village with Swiss food and shops. John Greenville, Wi. Steve Glass <redsglass@hotmail.com> wrote: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Glass" Hi Everybody Well it looks like Steve from Maine will be at Brodhead. I know it has been said before but I never thought I would be going so......... I did not pay attention. --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.


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    Time: 06:25:51 PM PST US
    From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Brodhead dreamin'
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> Howdy, 4th of July low 'n' slow fliers; Just winding down from having to work a Monday before the 4th (get to work on the airplane tomorrow!) and thinking about Brodhead next year. I figure it this way: First day, probably a Wednesday to make sure I have plenty of time, I take off after a good preflight check, briefing, and making sure everything is in the airplane and ready. That first day (short day, actually) is from my home airport of San Geronimo to Shreveport, Louisiana... home to 41CC and hush puppies, shrimp creole, and probably some cold beer. Absolutely have to visit the birthplace of this airplane and give my warmest regards to Kernal & Mrs. Corky in the genteel Southern way. Next day, Thursday, will be the long one... Shreveport to somewhere around St. Louis. Hope to find a Pietenpoler with a kind heart somewhere around St. Louis and maybe a hangar or something, and try to find a good beef steak with something cold to wash the bugs out of my throat. I reckon a good shower will be in order by then, too ;o) Third day, Friday, should be fairly easy, St. Louis to Brodhead. I'll fly under the arch on my way out, of course ;o) Spend Friday evening, Saturday, and early Sunday in Brodhead with a departure sometime before noon Sunday. Maybe mosey back more towards Kansas City or Topeka, down through Oklahoma, then straight south back home. Depends on who I meet in Brodhead and who might be heading back which way. Anybody ever fly from Brodhead to Kansas City or Topeka in a day in a Piet? Just doing a little daydreaming here, folks. Without some dreams, life is just punching a clock and paying bills. Fabric repairs and painting are complete on 41CC, landing gear legs are back on the airplane, brake overhaul is nearly complete. The last few items are to reinstall the fuel tank and paint the forward cabanes and then I think we'll be ready for the wings again. Stars & Stripes forever, and long may she wave! Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 07:04:29 PM PST US
    From: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Brodhead dreamin'
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net> Oscar, My wife and I cruised on our sail boat in the pacific for 12 years and our motto is "If you don't dream, dreams can't come true". My recent trip in N502R started as a dream and gradually became real (although, underway I felt like I was dreaming). If you don't mind, I'd like to dream along with you. I live halfway between Memphis and Nashville where the showers are warm and the beer's ice cold. Would be a good stop for you and a good place for me to start the adventure. Just maybe we can find one or two others to join in on a trip of a life time. Brodhead 07, here we come! Gene N502R ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 8:23 PM > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" > <taildrags@hotmail.com> > > Howdy, 4th of July low 'n' slow fliers; > > Just winding down from having to work a Monday before the 4th (get to work > on the airplane tomorrow!) and thinking about Brodhead next year. I > figure it this way: > > First day, probably a Wednesday to make sure I have plenty of time, I take > off after a good preflight check, briefing, and making sure everything is > in the airplane and ready. That first day (short day, actually) is from > my home airport of San Geronimo to Shreveport, Louisiana... home to 41CC > and hush puppies, shrimp creole, and probably some cold beer. Absolutely > have to visit the birthplace of this airplane and give my warmest regards > to Kernal & Mrs. Corky in the genteel Southern way. > > Next day, Thursday, will be the long one... Shreveport to somewhere around > St. Louis. Hope to find a Pietenpoler with a kind heart somewhere around > St. Louis and maybe a hangar or something, and try to find a good beef > steak with something cold to wash the bugs out of my throat. I reckon a > good shower will be in order by then, too ;o) > > Third day, Friday, should be fairly easy, St. Louis to Brodhead. I'll fly > under the arch on my way out, of course ;o) Spend Friday evening, > Saturday, and early Sunday in Brodhead with a departure sometime before > noon Sunday. Maybe mosey back more towards Kansas City or Topeka, down > through Oklahoma, then straight south back home. Depends on who I meet in > Brodhead and who might be heading back which way. Anybody ever fly from > Brodhead to Kansas City or Topeka in a day in a Piet? > > Just doing a little daydreaming here, folks. Without some dreams, life is > just punching a clock and paying bills. Fabric repairs and painting are > complete on 41CC, landing gear legs are back on the airplane, brake > overhaul is nearly complete. The last few items are to reinstall the fuel > tank and paint the forward cabanes and then I think we'll be ready for the > wings again. > > Stars & Stripes forever, and long may she wave! > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > >


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    Time: 09:54:03 PM PST US
    From: Rcaprd@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Brodhead dreamin'
    In a message dated 7/3/2006 8:27:23 PM Central Standard Time, taildrags@hotmail.com writes: Anybody ever fly from Brodhead to Kansas City or Topeka in a day in a Piet? Hey Oscar, That should not much of a problem. Maybe we can make that return trip as a flight of two...maybe three, if Mad Dawg Davis gets his plane flying by then. If you're route takes you around the North side of Kansas City, I would suggest a stop at Antique Field. Chuck G. NX770CG




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