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1. 03:59 AM - Re: Re: Falcon wood props (Gene & Tammy)
2. 04:10 AM - Re: Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator (Phillips, Jack)
3. 06:16 AM - brodhead ride needed (tmbrant1@netzero.com)
4. 07:44 AM - Re: Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator ()
5. 07:44 AM - Re: Re: Falcon wood props ()
6. 08:38 AM - Re: Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator (Steve Eldredge)
7. 08:54 AM - Re: Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator (Phillips, Jack)
8. 09:56 AM - Re: Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator (Gordon Bowen)
9. 10:19 AM - Chad Wille prop (Douwe Blumberg)
10. 10:20 AM - Re: Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator (Steve Eldredge)
11. 10:29 AM - johnson airspeed (Douwe Blumberg)
12. 10:42 AM - Re: Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator ()
13. 03:05 PM - Re: Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator (Rcaprd@aol.com)
14. 03:28 PM - Re: Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator (jimboyer@hughes.net)
15. 10:37 PM - Next project - Wittman Tailwind W10 (Rcaprd@aol.com)
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Subject: | Re: Falcon wood props |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
Don,
I'm looking to buy a wood prop and would be interested in learning what you
find out.
Gene
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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:53 PM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
>
> Thank you very much Mike, I sent him an e-mail. By the way, did you
> happen to make it to the T-Craft Fly-in? I went over on Sunday morning
> before church. Had breakfast with Frank and then we went up and did some
> tight formation flying. He's pretty good at that! A real rush!
> Don E.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=46558#46558
>
>
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Subject: | Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator |
You'll have a hard time getting it approved by the FAA without an
Altimeter, oil or water temperature gauge and an oil pressure gauge.
The skid ball is not a required instrument. The others are.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:04 PM
Hey ya'll
Does anyone know where I can find some info to build an old fashion
Johnson airspeed indicator? I'm trying to finish out the Piet as close
to a 1930 airplane as possibly and have decided the only flying
instruments I need are air speed, skid ball and compass. Any comments or
thoughts?
Rogers Theetge (Thet key)
Capnavid@aol.com
N=2E Ga Mountains
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Subject: | brodhead ride needed |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "tmbrant1@netzero.com" <tmbrant1@netzero.net>
Anyone from Minneapolis area flying down on Saturday with an open
seat?
Tom B.
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Subject: | Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator |
Come to Canada;register as an ultralight and you don't need any
instruments at all.There ya go!
Do not archive
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Phillips, Jack
Sent: July 12, 2006 7:07 AM
You'll have a hard time getting it approved by the FAA without an
Altimeter, oil or water temperature gauge and an oil pressure gauge.
The skid ball is not a required instrument. The others are.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:04 PM
Hey ya'll
Does anyone know where I can find some info to build an old fashion
Johnson airspeed indicator? I'm trying to finish out the Piet as close
to a 1930 airplane as possibly and have decided the only flying
instruments I need are air speed, skid ball and compass. Any comments or
thoughts?
Rogers Theetge (Thet key)
Capnavid@aol.com
N. Ga Mountains
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Subject: | Re: Falcon wood props |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
I got a real work of art from Tennessee props 72 X 42 ,everyone who sees
it said it's a real nice lookin prop.I got her for 658$ CND.
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Tammy
Sent: July 12, 2006 6:57 AM
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy"
<zharvey@bellsouth.net>
Don,
I'm looking to buy a wood prop and would be interested in learning what
you
find out.
Gene
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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:53 PM
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
>
> Thank you very much Mike, I sent him an e-mail. By the way, did you
> happen to make it to the T-Craft Fly-in? I went over on Sunday
morning
> before church. Had breakfast with Frank and then we went up and did
some
> tight formation flying. He's pretty good at that! A real rush!
> Don E.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=46558#46558
>
>
>
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Subject: | Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator |
True, but the only instrument that I ever really use is the oil pressure
gauge. Everything else you can hear, feel, smell, or see.
Love the pietenpol. I flew for the last 20 hours in a Stinson, and
while it is a great airplane, I felt out of touch with the atmosphere.
There is something magical you can feel in a steep slip when the wind is
hitting you in the side of the face and you can feel the descent as air
buffets the top of your head and rushes past your feet from the front
cockpit. I know I'm flaring when my pant legs deflate and it gets kind
of quite. If I can hear the tires squeak I've landed too fast, it's
just right when it sounds like a rough rubber scrape. Liftoff is when
the tail gets light and aileron pressure will lift a tire clear enough
to cause a slight yaw in that direction as the friction to the pavement
is lost. On grass it is even more pronounced especially if the grass
hasn't been cut in a while. Cruise speed is determined by the moment
you feel like there is nothing else to do but look around outside, or
straight down, and when you do you have to hold your goggles tight to
your face with your non-flying hand to control the buffet of the wind as
you poke your head into the slipstream. The cabin heat on a cool day is
the slight warmth you feel as you stick your hand out into the exhaust.
You can tell exactly where that is, but it doesn't do much good since by
the time you get you digits back into the cockpit they are super cooled
during the journey. Direction is easy to determine without a compass.
Just line up you the shadow of the tail-plane and cabanes perfectly on
the back of the prop disk as you fly away from the sun. This is
especially effective when the sun is just coming up in the morning or
late just before sun-set.
I tried spot landings Saturday afternoon. 12 in a row. I'm not very
good at it yet since when the piet is out of forward energy, drag takes
over and drops you on the runway. I did get one bounce and go exactly
where I was aiming, but I'm not sure that counts. I'm sure that R-22 in
hover on the taxiway wasn't there burning avgas just to watch. I should
have conceded the runway I suppose, but I was the only one in the
pattern, and surely it is big enough for two. Heck I've been of final
with 3 of them at a time. Anyway he didn't seem to want to join me and
finally left. My brother says we should send them a post card. It
would have a picture of my piet on the front and words that say: "Merry
Christmas. We're still not listening!": Radios are so over-rated. :-)
Enough rambling....
Steve E
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Phillips, Jack
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 5:07 AM
You'll have a hard time getting it approved by the FAA without an
Altimeter, oil or water temperature gauge and an oil pressure gauge.
The skid ball is not a required instrument. The others are.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
CapnAvid@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:04 PM
Hey ya'll
Does anyone know where I can find some info to build an old fashion
Johnson airspeed indicator? I'm trying to finish out the Piet as close
to a 1930 airplane as possibly and have decided the only flying
instruments I need are air speed, skid ball and compass. Any comments or
thoughts?
Rogers Theetge (Thet key)
Capnavid@aol.com
N. Ga Mountains
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Subject: | Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator |
Yesterday after work I went to the airport to fly tmy RV-4 for the first
time in 3 weeks. I had flown the Pietenpol on Sunday after we got back
from the honeymoon, but didn't have time then to fly the RV.
It started easily and flew as well as ever. I did a series of aileron
rolls in it and thought about doing some loops, but the visibility was
pretty poor (about 5 miles in haze) so I decided to practice stalls and
slow flight instead. It really is a good flying airplane, with very
light, well balanced controls that remain effective through the stall.
I shot a few touch and goes at Sanford and then decided to head back
because it was pretty warm and the cockpit ventilation is not terribly
effective at low altitudes (unlike a Pietenpol).
As I was putting it back in the hangar, Larry Godbold and his son were
pulling their J-3 out and getting ready to go up. They said "Why not
take the Pietenpol up and fly with us?" So I did. Flew formation with
them over Jordan Lake at about 400' and just had a ball. Returned to
the airport and found myself in the pattern with them, 2 other J-3's
(one of which I didn't even know), a Cessna 170 and a Stearman. Busy
times in the traffic pattern! It just doesn't get much better than
that.
As I put the Piet back in its hangar, it occurred to me how much more I
enjoy this kind of flying than the kind represented by the RV. I mean,
aerobatics is fun, and I really enjoy the utility of the RV for taking
trips, but this is the kind of flying that I like for just recreation.
I'm getting too old to ever do competition aerobatics, and I think it
will be ideal to have the RV-10 for travel and the Pietenpol for real
flying. I don't think I'll miss the RV-4 as much as I thought at one
time. I'll sell the RV-4 when it comes time to buy the engine for the
RV-10. I'll never sell the Pietenpol.
Jack Phillips
Already wishing I could go to Brodhead this year
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Eldredge
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:37 AM
True, but the only instrument that I ever really use is the oil pressure
gauge. Everything else you can hear, feel, smell, or see.
Love the pietenpol. I flew for the last 20 hours in a Stinson, and
while it is a great airplane, I felt out of touch with the atmosphere.
There is something magical you can feel in a steep slip when the wind is
hitting you in the side of the face and you can feel the descent as air
buffets the top of your head and rushes past your feet from the front
cockpit. I know I'm flaring when my pant legs deflate and it gets kind
of quite. If I can hear the tires squeak I've landed too fast, it's
just right when it sounds like a rough rubber scrape. Liftoff is when
the tail gets light and aileron pressure will lift a tire clear enough
to cause a slight yaw in that direction as the friction to the pavement
is lost. On grass it is even more pronounced especially if the grass
hasn't been cut in a while. Cruise speed is determined by the moment
you feel like there is nothing else to do but look around outside, or
straight down, and when you do you have to hold your goggles tight to
your face with your non-flying hand to control the buffet of the wind as
you poke your head into the slipstream. The cabin heat on a cool day is
the slight warmth you feel as you stick your hand out into the exhaust.
You can tell exactly where that is, but it doesn't do much good since by
the time you get you digits back into the cockpit they are super cooled
during the journey. Direction is easy to determine without a compass.
Just line up you the shadow of the tail-plane and cabanes perfectly on
the back of the prop disk as you fly away from the sun. This is
especially effective when the sun is just coming up in the morning or
late just before sun-set.
I tried spot landings Saturday afternoon. 12 in a row. I'm not very
good at it yet since when the piet is out of forward energy, drag takes
over and drops you on the runway. I did get one bounce and go exactly
where I was aiming, but I'm not sure that counts. I'm sure that R-22 in
hover on the taxiway wasn't there burning avgas just to watch. I should
have conceded the runway I suppose, but I was the only one in the
pattern, and surely it is big enough for two. Heck I've been of final
with 3 of them at a time. Anyway he didn't seem to want to join me and
finally left. My brother says we should send them a post card. It
would have a picture of my piet on the front and words that say: "Merry
Christmas. We're still not listening!": Radios are so over-rated. :-)
Enough rambling....
Steve E
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Phillips, Jack
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 5:07 AM
You'll have a hard time getting it approved by the FAA without an
Altimeter, oil or water temperature gauge and an oil pressure gauge.
The skid ball is not a required instrument. The others are.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
CapnAvid@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:04 PM
Hey ya'll
Does anyone know where I can find some info to build an old fashion
Johnson airspeed indicator? I'm trying to finish out the Piet as close
to a 1930 airplane as possibly and have decided the only flying
instruments I need are air speed, skid ball and compass. Any comments or
thoughts?
Rogers Theetge (Thet key)
Capnavid@aol.com
N=2E Ga Mountains
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Subject: | Re: Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator |
Even if the FAA inspector didn't fuss about flight instruments, it's a
very good idea to have oil temp/pressure gauge on any plane just to
monitor overheating or low pressure. On any homebuilt the issue of
baffling of the engine is tricky to keep the oil below 280F, CHT is
also important to get ideas where you need to install more baffling but
not as important as oil temp max. You can do a lot of trial low and
high speed taxi work with just monitoring the oil. Quit when oil gets
about 240F, go back and cool your heels then try again. I put more
stock in engine monitoring devices than I do in the flight instruments
during initial trials.
Gordon
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From: Phillips, Jack
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:07 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator
You'll have a hard time getting it approved by the FAA without an
Altimeter, oil or water temperature gauge and an oil pressure gauge.
The skid ball is not a required instrument. The others are.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
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CapnAvid@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:04 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronicscom
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator
Hey ya'll
Does anyone know where I can find some info to build an old fashion
Johnson airspeed indicator? I'm trying to finish out the Piet as close
to a 1930 airplane as possibly and have decided the only flying
instruments I need are air speed, skid ball and compass. Any comments or
thoughts?
Rogers Theetge (Thet key)
Capnavid@aol.com
N. Ga Mountains
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Gene,
I have a Chad Wille model A prop. It is beautiful and his service was
right on time. I am very pleased.
Douwe
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Subject: | Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator |
Atta way Jack. I'm nearly finished with the FWF on my Stinson, and I'm
already looking for another project. A skybolt is calling because I
want to try something with two wings lots of power and aerobatic. I may
finish my bearhawk that I started 5 years ago. It is still metal parts
in a box. The stinson fills that need, but doesn't have the power, or
load carrying capability. A motorglider also sound like great fun, but
my wife says I can't ever sell the piet. ( I have been passively
looking for an 0-200 for it though.)
Steve E.
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Phillips, Jack
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:53 AM
Yesterday after work I went to the airport to fly tmy RV-4 for the first
time in 3 weeks. I had flown the Pietenpol on Sunday after we got back
from the honeymoon, but didn't have time then to fly the RV.
It started easily and flew as well as ever. I did a series of aileron
rolls in it and thought about doing some loops, but the visibility was
pretty poor (about 5 miles in haze) so I decided to practice stalls and
slow flight instead. It really is a good flying airplane, with very
light, well balanced controls that remain effective through the stall.
I shot a few touch and goes at Sanford and then decided to head back
because it was pretty warm and the cockpit ventilation is not terribly
effective at low altitudes (unlike a Pietenpol).
As I was putting it back in the hangar, Larry Godbold and his son were
pulling their J-3 out and getting ready to go up. They said "Why not
take the Pietenpol up and fly with us?" So I did. Flew formation with
them over Jordan Lake at about 400' and just had a ball. Returned to
the airport and found myself in the pattern with them, 2 other J-3's
(one of which I didn't even know), a Cessna 170 and a Stearman. Busy
times in the traffic pattern! It just doesn't get much better than
that.
As I put the Piet back in its hangar, it occurred to me how much more I
enjoy this kind of flying than the kind represented by the RV. I mean,
aerobatics is fun, and I really enjoy the utility of the RV for taking
trips, but this is the kind of flying that I like for just recreation.
I'm getting too old to ever do competition aerobatics, and I think it
will be ideal to have the RV-10 for travel and the Pietenpol for real
flying. I don't think I'll miss the RV-4 as much as I thought at one
time. I'll sell the RV-4 when it comes time to buy the engine for the
RV-10. I'll never sell the Pietenpol.
Jack Phillips
Already wishing I could go to Brodhead this year
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Eldredge
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:37 AM
True, but the only instrument that I ever really use is the oil pressure
gauge. Everything else you can hear, feel, smell, or see.
Love the pietenpol. I flew for the last 20 hours in a Stinson, and
while it is a great airplane, I felt out of touch with the atmosphere.
There is something magical you can feel in a steep slip when the wind is
hitting you in the side of the face and you can feel the descent as air
buffets the top of your head and rushes past your feet from the front
cockpit. I know I'm flaring when my pant legs deflate and it gets kind
of quite. If I can hear the tires squeak I've landed too fast, it's
just right when it sounds like a rough rubber scrape. Liftoff is when
the tail gets light and aileron pressure will lift a tire clear enough
to cause a slight yaw in that direction as the friction to the pavement
is lost. On grass it is even more pronounced especially if the grass
hasn't been cut in a while. Cruise speed is determined by the moment
you feel like there is nothing else to do but look around outside, or
straight down, and when you do you have to hold your goggles tight to
your face with your non-flying hand to control the buffet of the wind as
you poke your head into the slipstream. The cabin heat on a cool day is
the slight warmth you feel as you stick your hand out into the exhaust.
You can tell exactly where that is, but it doesn't do much good since by
the time you get you digits back into the cockpit they are super cooled
during the journey. Direction is easy to determine without a compass.
Just line up you the shadow of the tail-plane and cabanes perfectly on
the back of the prop disk as you fly away from the sun. This is
especially effective when the sun is just coming up in the morning or
late just before sun-set.
I tried spot landings Saturday afternoon. 12 in a row. I'm not very
good at it yet since when the piet is out of forward energy, drag takes
over and drops you on the runway. I did get one bounce and go exactly
where I was aiming, but I'm not sure that counts. I'm sure that R-22 in
hover on the taxiway wasn't there burning avgas just to watch. I should
have conceded the runway I suppose, but I was the only one in the
pattern, and surely it is big enough for two. Heck I've been of final
with 3 of them at a time. Anyway he didn't seem to want to join me and
finally left. My brother says we should send them a post card. It
would have a picture of my piet on the front and words that say: "Merry
Christmas. We're still not listening!": Radios are so over-rated. :-)
Enough rambling....
Steve E
________________________________
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Phillips, Jack
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 5:07 AM
You'll have a hard time getting it approved by the FAA without an
Altimeter, oil or water temperature gauge and an oil pressure gauge.
The skid ball is not a required instrument. The others are.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
CapnAvid@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:04 PM
Hey ya'll
Does anyone know where I can find some info to build an old fashion
Johnson airspeed indicator? I'm trying to finish out the Piet as close
to a 1930 airplane as possibly and have decided the only flying
instruments I need are air speed, skid ball and compass. Any comments or
thoughts?
Rogers Theetge (Thet key)
Capnavid@aol.com
N. Ga Mountains
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Subject: | johnson airspeed |
Rogers,
HI, I too am doing a barebones piet and am using a windvane type
indicator. I did some web searching and came up with some good photos,
then was able to borrow one from Old Rhinebeck for measuring, so I've
got drawings. they are occassionally available in batches by various
guys but they're really expensive. I could send you my measurements if
you want.
I'm making a WWI type strut mounted anemometer airspeed indicator
reproduction which will be really cool. LIttle spiining brass cups on
top of a hourglass shaped aluminum housing with a dial on front facing
the cockpit. I"m going to use one on mine, but they'll be awefully
expensive for your average piet, and way overkill. The johnson is
definately the way to go.
Regarding instruments, remember the FAA dictates mininum
instrumentation, so you'll need oil pressure and temp, or water temp,
magnetic heading indicator (compass) airspeed of some sort, and
altitude. slip indicator is not mandatory legally.
Douwe
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Subject: | Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator |
So you have three planes.Geeeeze ,my wife is driving me nuts and wants
me to sell one of my two,either the Piet or the N3 Pup (cub look alike
=BE size).I'd like to keep the Pup for winter flyin and the Piet for
summer but I don't know how much longer I can hang in there.Maybe I
should sell the wife(goin real cheep),eh!
Do not archive
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Phillips, Jack
Sent: July 12, 2006 11:53 AM
Yesterday after work I went to the airport to fly tmy RV-4 for the first
time in 3 weeks. I had flown the Pietenpol on Sunday after we got back
from the honeymoon, but didn't have time then to fly the RV.
It started easily and flew as well as ever. I did a series of aileron
rolls in it and thought about doing some loops, but the visibility was
pretty poor (about 5 miles in haze) so I decided to practice stalls and
slow flight instead. It really is a good flying airplane, with very
light, well balanced controls that remain effective through the stall.
I shot a few touch and goes at Sanford and then decided to head back
because it was pretty warm and the cockpit ventilation is not terribly
effective at low altitudes (unlike a Pietenpol).
As I was putting it back in the hangar, Larry Godbold and his son were
pulling their J-3 out and getting ready to go up. They said "Why not
take the Pietenpol up and fly with us?" So I did. Flew formation with
them over Jordan Lake at about 400' and just had a ball. Returned to
the airport and found myself in the pattern with them, 2 other J-3's
(one of which I didn't even know), a Cessna 170 and a Stearman. Busy
times in the traffic pattern! It just doesn't get much better than
that.
As I put the Piet back in its hangar, it occurred to me how much more I
enjoy this kind of flying than the kind represented by the RV. I mean,
aerobatics is fun, and I really enjoy the utility of the RV for taking
trips, but this is the kind of flying that I like for just recreation.
I'm getting too old to ever do competition aerobatics, and I think it
will be ideal to have the RV-10 for travel and the Pietenpol for real
flying. I don't think I'll miss the RV-4 as much as I thought at one
time. I'll sell the RV-4 when it comes time to buy the engine for the
RV-10. I'll never sell the Pietenpol.
Jack Phillips
Already wishing I could go to Brodhead this year
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Eldredge
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:37 AM
True, but the only instrument that I ever really use is the oil pressure
gauge. Everything else you can hear, feel, smell, or see.
Love the pietenpol. I flew for the last 20 hours in a Stinson, and
while it is a great airplane, I felt out of touch with the atmosphere.
There is something magical you can feel in a steep slip when the wind is
hitting you in the side of the face and you can feel the descent as air
buffets the top of your head and rushes past your feet from the front
cockpit. I know I'm flaring when my pant legs deflate and it gets kind
of quite. If I can hear the tires squeak I've landed too fast, it's
just right when it sounds like a rough rubber scrape. Liftoff is when
the tail gets light and aileron pressure will lift a tire clear enough
to cause a slight yaw in that direction as the friction to the pavement
is lost. On grass it is even more pronounced especially if the grass
hasn't been cut in a while. Cruise speed is determined by the moment
you feel like there is nothing else to do but look around outside, or
straight down, and when you do you have to hold your goggles tight to
your face with your non-flying hand to control the buffet of the wind as
you poke your head into the slipstream. The cabin heat on a cool day is
the slight warmth you feel as you stick your hand out into the exhaust.
You can tell exactly where that is, but it doesn't do much good since by
the time you get you digits back into the cockpit they are super cooled
during the journey. Direction is easy to determine without a compass.
Just line up you the shadow of the tail-plane and cabanes perfectly on
the back of the prop disk as you fly away from the sun. This is
especially effective when the sun is just coming up in the morning or
late just before sun-set.
I tried spot landings Saturday afternoon. 12 in a row. I'm not very
good at it yet since when the piet is out of forward energy, drag takes
over and drops you on the runway. I did get one bounce and go exactly
where I was aiming, but I'm not sure that counts. I'm sure that R-22 in
hover on the taxiway wasn't there burning avgas just to watch. I should
have conceded the runway I suppose, but I was the only one in the
pattern, and surely it is big enough for two. Heck I've been of final
with 3 of them at a time. Anyway he didn't seem to want to join me and
finally left. My brother says we should send them a post card. It
would have a picture of my piet on the front and words that say: "Merry
Christmas. We're still not listening!": Radios are so over-rated. :-)
Enough rambling....
Steve E
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Phillips, Jack
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 5:07 AM
You'll have a hard time getting it approved by the FAA without an
Altimeter, oil or water temperature gauge and an oil pressure gauge.
The skid ball is not a required instrument. The others are.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
CapnAvid@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:04 PM
Hey ya'll
Does anyone know where I can find some info to build an old fashion
Johnson airspeed indicator? I'm trying to finish out the Piet as close
to a 1930 airplane as possibly and have decided the only flying
instruments I need are air speed, skid ball and compass. Any comments or
thoughts?
Rogers Theetge (Thet key)
Capnavid@aol.com
N. Ga Mountains
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Subject: | Re: Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator |
Steve & Jack hit the nail on the head !! I'll NEVER sell my Piet...although
you can see my next project on my web site at
http://nx770cg.com/NextProjectTailwind.html
I've been spending a lot of time on the Tailwind lately, at the cost of
flying the Piet. That's a big reason I'm really looking forward to the flight
to
Brodhead next week.
See y'all at Brodhead !!
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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Subject: | Re: Old fashion Johnson air speed indicator |
Chuck, you are making great progress on the tailwind. How long have you been working
on it? You are too productive.
Cheers, Jim
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Subject: | Next project - Wittman Tailwind W10 |
In a message dated 7/12/2006 5:30:40 PM Central Standard Time,
jimboyer@hughes.net writes:
Chuck, you are making great progress on the tailwind. How long have you been
working on it? You are too productive.
Cheers, Jim
Jim,
I more or less committed to the Tailwind W10 project, soon after I finished
construction on the Piet, in early '02. I had a serious case of 'Builders
Withdraw'. Time spent on it has been on & off till about a month ago, and I
really started spending a lot of time on the fuselage. The Tailwind is All About
SPEED !! On 150 hp, they typically cruise around 180 mph, and can easily go
over 200 mph !! I'm planning on a 'Glass Panel', too.
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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