Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Wed 07/19/06


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:42 AM - Re: World Aeronautical Charts (Jack T. Textor)
     2. 08:18 AM - brake job (Oscar Zuniga)
     3. 08:19 AM - Pietenpol for sale (Waytogopiet@aol.com)
     4. 09:22 AM - Re: Pietenpol for sale (Michael D Cuy)
     5. 09:27 AM - Re: Pietenpol for sale ()
     6. 02:00 PM - Continental A-65/75 valve guide question (kmordecai001@comcast.net)
     7. 02:38 PM - smooth sailing! (Douwe Blumberg)
     8. 02:47 PM - Re: Continental A-65/75 valve guide question (Gene & Tammy)
     9. 04:30 PM - Re: brake job (Dave and Connie)
    10. 04:54 PM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 07/18/06 (Graham and Robyn)
    11. 05:30 PM - Re: Pietenpol for sale (PIETLARS29@wmconnect.com)
    12. 07:28 PM - A-75 bottom overhaul progress - pleasant surprise (kmordecai001@comcast.net)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:42:57 AM PST US
    From: "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
    Subject: World Aeronautical Charts
    Chuck, I have papered two offices; it's like hanging toilet paper! Will share some tips at Brodhead. I got my charts from www.buildersbooks.com <http://www.buildersbooks.com/> . He was associated with the RV list and very helpful. He used to give "free" expired charts until he received complaints because he didn't have certain charts. I ordered almost two complete sets and he threw in all the expired charts he had. I will check to see if I have any left-over. Look forward to meeting at Brodhead...Don't forget to save me a construction video...Thanks! Jack Textor Des Moines Chuck, I will bring CF-17, CF-18, CG-21, and CH-23. We are leaving tomorrow morning, early. See you there. Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: <mailto:Rcaprd@aol.com> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: 7/18/2006 5:57:44 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: World Aeronautical Charts I'm doing a project in my hanger, and I need more WAC's. I want to have the entire Continental United States on one wall of the hanger, but the wall isn't big enough for the Sectional Charts, so I need more of the outdated WAC's. Does anyone know where I can get these outdated charts, or perhaps someone has some they could swap for a ride at Brodhead ? I need two each, of the 4 charts across the North, and the 2 on the East Coast. Chuck G. NX770CG tomorrow, I'm going to do a very thourough inspection, do a hop around the patch, weigh and pack the gear, and top off the fuel tanks. Gear up, crack o' dawn Thursday...or maybe crack o' 10am...weather is lookin' Good !!


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    Time: 08:18:51 AM PST US
    From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: brake job
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> It's been so slow on the list lately that I thought I'd go ahead and post some info on my brakes. As I mentioned, they are off a Cessna 172 and had life left on the linings, but one of the linings cracked somewhere along the line so I decided to proceed with replacement. There are two tools available to remove the old rivets and set new ones... a hammer-powered one and one with a screw press. Our EAA Chapter 35 happened to have the hammer-driven one in its tool chest so I used that one. It went very quickly and easily. One punch drives out the old rivets to release the worn linings, then a different punch and set are used to head the hollow end and back up the rivet head inside the pocket in the brake lining. Very painless. One little improvement with these new Rapco linings is that they are now made with a wear indicator... a simple notch in one edge of the lining, approximately half the depth of the lining. When it's worn down to where you can't see the notch anymore, you should be thinking about replacing the linings. According to the Rapco website and instructions, break-in of the new linings consists of a moderate taxi and application of brakes (there will be very little braking action at first), followed by a cool-down and another moderate taxi with braking. I will try this taxi testing and brake lining break-in soon. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 08:19:47 AM PST US
    From: Waytogopiet@aol.com
    Subject: Pietenpol for sale
    Hello, My husband Don Hicks passed away saturday the 15th of July. He had finished building a Pietenpol and had put around 3+ hours in the air. I need to sell this plane and would appreciate any assistance from you that know this plane. Please contact me on Hixplace@aol.com or call me at : 334-348-2422. Thanks so very much Clara Hicks.


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    Time: 09:22:07 AM PST US
    From: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol for sale
    Guys-- I corresponded w/ Don several times offline and am very sorry to hear of his loss and our hearts go out to you, Clara. Here is a photo of Don's plane. I have about 5 more in case anyone would like to see it...all before cover. Mike Cuy Ohio At 11:19 AM 7/19/2006 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, My husband Don Hicks passed away saturday the 15th of July. He >had finished building a Pietenpol and had put around 3+ hours in the >air. I need to sell this plane and would appreciate any assistance from >you that know this plane. Please contact me on ><mailto:Hixplace@aol.com>Hixplace@aol.com or call me at : >334-348-2422. Thanks so very much Clara Hicks.


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    Time: 09:27:23 AM PST US
    From: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
    Subject: Pietenpol for sale
    Sorry to hear this news. ________________________________ [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Waytogopiet@aol.com Sent: July 19, 2006 11:19 AM Hello, My husband Don Hicks passed away saturday the 15th of July. He had finished building a Pietenpol and had put around 3+ hours in the air. I need to sell this plane and would appreciate any assistance from you that know this plane. Please contact me on Hixplace@aol.com or call me at : 334-348-2422. Thanks so very much Clara Hicks.


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    Time: 02:00:39 PM PST US
    From: kmordecai001@comcast.net
    Subject: Continental A-65/75 valve guide question
    Continental Engine Guru's, My re-print of the Continental engine manual does not give the O.D. of the original standard size valve guides. The ones in the engine range from .530 to .550 O.D, but I figure they've all been replaced at least a time or two (or three, or four). So, I don't know if I need .010" over, .020" over, or some other larger guide I can cut down to size. Anybody know the O.D. of standard size valve guides in an A-65/75? Thanks in advance, Dave Mordecai Panacea, FL where NX520SF patiently awaits her crankshaft to return from Rick Roman's..... <html><body> <DIV>Continental Engine Guru's,</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>My re-print of the Continental&nbsp;engine manual&nbsp;does not give the O.D. of the original standard size valve guides.&nbsp; The ones in the engine range from .530 to .550 O.D, but I figure they've all been replaced at least a time or two (or three, or four).&nbsp; So, I don't know if I need .010" over, .020" over, or some other larger guide I can cut down to size.</DIV> <DIV>Anybody know the O.D. of&nbsp;standard size valve guides in an A-65/75?</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Thanks in advance,</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Dave Mordecai</DIV> <DIV>Panacea, FL</DIV> <DIV>where NX520SF patiently awaits&nbsp;her crankshaft to return from Rick Roman's.....</DIV></body></html>


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    Time: 02:38:15 PM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: smooth sailing!
    I wish everybody safe journeys, calm air and strong tailwinds to Brodhead. However you travel there, have a safe one. I will miss being there, but Lord willing we'll be flying NX799B up next year!! Douwe


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    Time: 02:47:28 PM PST US
    From: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Continental A-65/75 valve guide question
    Dave, My Continental Manual lists as follows. TABLE OF LIMITS Min. Max. Valve Guide in Cylinder Head....Diameter .001T .0025T Hope this is what your looking for. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: kmordecai001@comcast.net To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Continental A-65/75 valve guide question Continental Engine Guru's, My re-print of the Continental engine manual does not give the O.D. of the original standard size valve guides. The ones in the engine range from .530 to .550 O.D, but I figure they've all been replaced at least a time or two (or three, or four). So, I don't know if I need .010" over, .020" over, or some other larger guide I can cut down to size. Anybody know the O.D. of standard size valve guides in an A-65/75? Thanks in advance, Dave Mordecai Panacea, FL where NX520SF patiently awaits her crankshaft to return from Rick Roman's.....


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    Time: 04:30:09 PM PST US
    From: Dave and Connie <dmatt@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: brake job
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dave and Connie <dmatt@frontiernet.net> Oscar, When I changed brake linings on the Taylorcraft my IA told me to taxi and drag the brakes. At about 1/2 way to the end of the runway the brakes were pretty well locked up and I was having problems moving. I turned around and let things cool down and they have been happy ever since. Dave N36078 '41 BC-12-65 At 11:15 AM 7/19/2006, Oscar Zuniga wrote: >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> > >It's been so slow on the list lately that I thought I'd go ahead and post >some info on my brakes. As I mentioned, they are off a Cessna 172 and had >life left on the linings, but one of the linings cracked somewhere along >the line so I decided to proceed with replacement. There are two tools >available to remove the old rivets and set new ones... a hammer-powered >one and one with a screw press. Our EAA Chapter 35 happened to have the >hammer-driven one in its tool chest so I used that one. > >It went very quickly and easily. One punch drives out the old rivets to >release the worn linings, then a different punch and set are used to head >the hollow end and back up the rivet head inside the pocket in the brake >lining. Very painless. One little improvement with these new Rapco >linings is that they are now made with a wear indicator... a simple notch >in one edge of the lining, approximately half the depth of the >lining. When it's worn down to where you can't see the notch anymore, you >should be thinking about replacing the linings. > >According to the Rapco website and instructions, break-in of the new >linings consists of a moderate taxi and application of brakes (there will >be very little braking action at first), followed by a cool-down and >another moderate taxi with braking. I will try this taxi testing and >brake lining break-in soon. > >Oscar Zuniga >San Antonio, TX >mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com >website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. > > >-- incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.


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    Time: 04:54:43 PM PST US
    From: "Graham and Robyn" <grhewitt@globaldial.com>
    Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 07/18/06
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Graham and Robyn" <grhewitt@globaldial.com> If any one wants a Pic of the Johnson ASI please email me grhewitt@globaldial.com Cheers Graham I wish Brodhead was closer to Perth in West Australia -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pietenpol-List Digest Server Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2006 2:57 PM * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list/Digest.Pietenpol-List.200 6-07-18.html Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list/Digest.Pietenpol-List.200 6-07-18.txt =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/18/06: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:53 AM - Re: Have a safe trip () 2. 10:31 AM - Brodhead (shad bell) 3. 02:38 PM - Re: Dan from Poplar Grove (Rcaprd@aol.com) 4. 02:53 PM - World Aeronautical Charts (Rcaprd@aol.com) 5. 03:57 PM - Re: World Aeronautical Charts (Mark Blackwell) 6. 06:36 PM - Re: World Aeronautical Charts (Skip-Cinda Gadd) 7. 11:15 PM - Getting ready for Brodhead (shad bell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:53:06 AM PST US Having a fan blow directly on you quickly dehydrates the body;drink plenty of liquids.Beer will do!Good excuse to drink beer eh! ________________________________ [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of HelsperSew@aol.com Sent: July 17, 2006 5:38 PM I will be sleeping in the back of my truck. I bought a battery powered fan in the camping section at Farm N" Fleet. It has foam blades and will run for 20 hours on 6 D cells. Maybe this will at least evaporate some of the sweat that will be pooling on my chest! Hey, I just thought of something- freeze some huge blocks of ice and have the fan breeze "waft" over it on its way over to by body. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:31:41 AM PST US Hello Group, My name is Shad Bell, Gary Bell's son, and just wondering if anyone would like to meet up in Ohio, Indiana, or Illinois and fly in to brodhead as a group. Dad and I plan on leaving Delaware Ohio in the early morning on friday. Our planned route is more or less following route 30 accross In, IL and around the west side of Rockford. Our first stop should be Van Wert in N/W Ohio then on west. We just finnished our 40 hr test phase and so far no problems except the oil presure gauge leaking into the face of the instrument. Don't buy Faris brand engine gauges both the oil temp and pressure gauges have been replaced. The oil temp did not even last untill the 1st flight, the pressure gauge started leaking around 40 hrs. Any way hope to see you all at Brodhead.\ Shad Bell --------------------------------- See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:38:55 PM PST US In a message dated 7/17/2006 6:52:14 PM Central Standard Time, csfog@earthlink.net writes: Checked the 10 day forcast on wx.com. Friday Hi and Lo 78/58. Saturday 80/61. 20% chance rain both days. Maybe we will luck out this year. Skip That sounds Great !! It was over 110=BA here in Wichita, today. Tomorrow i s supposed to be a few degrees hotter. Chuck G. NX770CG ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:53:43 PM PST US I'm doing a project in my hanger, and I need more WAC's. I want to have the entire Continental United States on one wall of the hanger, but the wall isn't big enough for the Sectional Charts, so I need more of the outdated WAC's. Does anyone know where I can get these outdated charts, or perhaps someone has some they could swap for a ride at Brodhead ? I need two each, of the 4 charts across the North, and the 2 on the East Coast. Chuck G. NX770CG tomorrow, I'm going to do a very thourough inspection, do a hop around the patch, weigh and pack the gear, and top off the fuel tanks. Gear up, crack o' dawn Thursday...or maybe crack o' 10am...weather is lookin' Good !! ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:57:11 PM PST US Just go to any chart dealer and tell them you want the outdated ones for a project that does not use them for navigation purposes. Explain what you want to do with them. When the charts expire to get credit for the ones that were unsold, they have to cut a portion of the label off and send that part back. The rest they throw away, for which you would be happy to do for them. Lots of places would likely help you out. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rcaprd@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:52 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: World Aeronautical Charts I'm doing a project in my hanger, and I need more WAC's. I want to have the entire Continental United States on one wall of the hanger, but the wall isn't big enough for the Sectional Charts, so I need more of the outdated WAC's. Does anyone know where I can get these outdated charts, or perhaps someone has some they could swap for a ride at Brodhead ? I need two each, of the 4 charts across the North, and the 2 on the East Coast. Chuck G. NX770CG tomorrow, I'm going to do a very thourough inspection, do a hop around the patch, weigh and pack the gear, and top off the fuel tanks. Gear up, crack o' dawn Thursday...or maybe crack o' 10am...weather is lookin' Good !! ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:33 PM PST US Chuck, I will bring CF-17, CF-18, CG-21, and CH-23. We are leaving tomorrow morning, early. See you there. Skip ----- Original Message ----- Sent: 7/18/2006 5:57:44 PM I'm doing a project in my hanger, and I need more WAC's. I want to have the entire Continental United States on one wall of the hanger, but the wall isn't big enough for the Sectional Charts, so I need more of the outdated WAC's. Does anyone know where I can get these outdated charts, or perhaps someone has some they could swap for a ride at Brodhead ? I need two each, of the 4 charts across the North, and the 2 on the East Coast. Chuck G. NX770CG tomorrow, I'm going to do a very thourough inspection, do a hop around the patch, weigh and pack the gear, and top off the fuel tanks. Gear up, crack o' dawn Thursday...or maybe crack o' 10am...weather is lookin' Good !! ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:15:24 PM PST US Hello all, I've got Dad's piet in my hanger here at the house trying to get it ready for the 400 mile trip to Brodhead on friday, He is on the road and won't be home untill Thursday night. We decided to tighten up the "X" brace cables on the L/H lift struts last sunday when the airplane was flying hands off and we ended up making it right wing heavy. So now I get to adjust and saftywire the turnbuckles then test fly and hopefully not have to waist too much time cutting off safties and re-addjusting turnbuckles over and over. (should have left them alone, hind sight is 20/20). The weather should be nice enough tommorow to test fly but I ran out of 0.040" safty wire so I have to get some more in the morning. Well it is time for bed... to all a good night and let visions of pietenpols dance in your heads. Shad --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.


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    Time: 05:30:27 PM PST US
    From: PIETLARS29@wmconnect.com
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol for sale
    Pieters, I too am sorry to hear about Dons passing; our sympathy to Clara. I have visited the Hicks in Hartford Alabama and viewed Don's Piet; to any who might be interested , the workmanship is absolutely first class. It has a Model A engine and the 'jenny' stiff leg gear. A real gem of a Piet. Lou Larsen


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    Time: 07:28:40 PM PST US
    From: kmordecai001@comcast.net
    Subject: A-75 bottom overhaul progress - pleasant surprise
    Fellow Pieters, I thought I would take a little time while the crank is in the shop to balance the reciprocating parts in the A-75. Imagine my surprise when I found the rods within 3 grams of each other! From looking at them you wouldn't have expected it, but I suppose the irregularities in material on the beam sides and rod ends were the result of the factory balance work. Lot's of grinding marks & variation from rod to rod, but the balance is very good. A little work with the grinder and now they're within 1 gram. Pistons are within 10 grams, but will soon be within 1 or 2 :-) I know, this is way overkill for a 2600 rpm engine, but it keeps me off the streets & justifies the occasional purchase of tool bits. Also smoothed & polished the intake spider, elbows, and ports. Port matching was pretty good, but the surface finish was pretty rough with lot's of very rough spots from irregularities in the mold. Once again, overkill for a slow running motor, but maybe I'll pick up a few rpm's in climbout. Looking forward to assembly in a couple of weeks......... Dave Mordecai Panacea, FL NX520SF <html><body> <DIV>Fellow Pieters,</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>I thought I would take a little time while the crank is in the shop to balance the reciprocating parts in the&nbsp;A-75.&nbsp; Imagine my surprise when I found the rods within&nbsp;3 grams of each other!&nbsp; From looking at them you wouldn't have expected it, but I suppose the irregularities in material on the beam sides and rod ends were the result of the factory balance work.&nbsp; Lot's of grinding marks &amp; variation from rod to rod, but the balance is very good.&nbsp; A little work with&nbsp;the grinder&nbsp;and now they're within 1 gram.</DIV> <DIV>Pistons are within 10 grams, but will soon be within 1 or 2 :-)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;I know, this is way overkill for a 2600 rpm engine, but it keeps me off the streets &amp; justifies the occasional purchase of tool bits.</DIV> <DIV>Also smoothed &amp; polished the intake spider, elbows, and ports. Port matching was pretty good, but the surface finish was pretty rough with lot's of very rough spots from irregularities in the mold.&nbsp; Once again, overkill for a slow running motor, but maybe I'll pick up a few rpm's in climbout.</DIV> <DIV>Looking forward to assembly in a couple of weeks.........</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Dave Mordecai</DIV> <DIV>Panacea, FL</DIV> <DIV>NX520SF</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></body></html>




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