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     1. 02:42 AM - Re: World Aeronautical Charts (Jack T. Textor)
     2. 08:18 AM - brake job (Oscar Zuniga)
     3. 08:19 AM - Pietenpol for sale (Waytogopiet@aol.com)
     4. 09:22 AM - Re: Pietenpol for sale (Michael D Cuy)
     5. 09:27 AM - Re: Pietenpol for sale ()
     6. 02:00 PM - Continental A-65/75 valve guide question (kmordecai001@comcast.net)
     7. 02:38 PM - smooth sailing! (Douwe Blumberg)
     8. 02:47 PM - Re: Continental A-65/75 valve guide question (Gene & Tammy)
     9. 04:30 PM - Re: brake job (Dave and Connie)
    10. 04:54 PM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 07/18/06 (Graham and Robyn)
    11. 05:30 PM - Re: Pietenpol for sale (PIETLARS29@wmconnect.com)
    12. 07:28 PM - A-75 bottom overhaul progress - pleasant surprise (kmordecai001@comcast.net)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | World Aeronautical Charts | 
      
      Chuck,
      
      I have papered two offices; it's like hanging toilet paper!  Will share
      some tips at Brodhead.  I got my charts from www.buildersbooks.com
      <http://www.buildersbooks.com/> .  He was associated with the RV list
      and very helpful.  He used to give "free" expired charts until he
      received complaints because he didn't have certain charts.  I ordered
      almost two complete sets and he threw in all the expired charts he had.
      I will check to see if I have any left-over.  Look forward to meeting at
      Brodhead...Don't forget to save me a construction video...Thanks!
      
      Jack Textor
      
      Des Moines
      
      
      Chuck,
      
      I will bring CF-17, CF-18, CG-21, and CH-23. We are leaving tomorrow
      morning, early. See you there.
      
      Skip
      
      
      	----- Original Message ----- 
      
      	From: <mailto:Rcaprd@aol.com> 
      
      	To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      
      	Sent: 7/18/2006 5:57:44 PM 
      
      	Subject: Pietenpol-List: World Aeronautical Charts
      
      	 
      
      	I'm doing a project in my hanger, and I need more WAC's.  I want
      to have the entire Continental United States on one wall of the hanger,
      but the wall isn't big enough for the Sectional Charts, so I need more
      of the outdated WAC's.  
      
      	    Does anyone know where I can get these outdated charts, or
      perhaps someone has some they could swap for a ride at Brodhead ?  I
      need two each, of the 4 charts across the North, and the 2 on the East
      Coast.
      
      	 
      
      	Chuck G.
      
      	NX770CG
      
      	tomorrow, I'm going to do a very thourough inspection, do a hop
      around the patch, weigh and pack the gear, and top off the fuel tanks.
      Gear up, crack o' dawn Thursday...or maybe crack o'  10am...weather is
      lookin' Good !!
      
      
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      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      
      It's been so slow on the list lately that I thought I'd go ahead and post 
      some info on my brakes.  As I mentioned, they are off a Cessna 172 and had 
      life left on the linings, but one of the linings cracked somewhere along the 
      line so I decided to proceed with replacement.  There are two tools 
      available to remove the old rivets and set new ones... a hammer-powered one 
      and one with a screw press.  Our EAA Chapter 35 happened to have the 
      hammer-driven one in its tool chest so I used that one.
      
      It went very quickly and easily.  One punch drives out the old rivets to 
      release the worn linings, then a different punch and set are used to head 
      the hollow end and back up the rivet head inside the pocket in the brake 
      lining.  Very painless.  One little improvement with these new Rapco linings 
      is that they are now made with a wear indicator... a simple notch in one 
      edge of the lining, approximately half the depth of the lining.  When it's 
      worn down to where you can't see the notch anymore, you should be thinking 
      about replacing the linings.
      
      According to the Rapco website and instructions, break-in of the new linings 
      consists of a moderate taxi and application of brakes (there will be very 
      little braking action at first), followed by a cool-down and another 
      moderate taxi with braking.  I will try this taxi testing and brake lining 
      break-in soon.
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      San Antonio, TX
      mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      
      
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| Subject:  | Pietenpol for sale | 
      
      Hello,   My husband Don Hicks passed away saturday the 15th of July.  He had 
      finished building a Pietenpol and had put around 3+ hours in the air.  I need 
      to sell this plane and would appreciate any assistance from you that know this
      
      plane.  Please contact me on Hixplace@aol.com or call me at : 334-348-2422.  
      Thanks so very much Clara Hicks.
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Pietenpol for sale | 
      
      Guys-- I corresponded w/ Don several times offline and am very sorry to 
      hear of his loss and our hearts go out to you, Clara.
      
      Here is a photo of Don's plane.  I have about 5 more in case anyone would 
      like to see it...all before cover.
      
      Mike Cuy
      Ohio
      
      
      At 11:19 AM 7/19/2006 -0400, you wrote:
      >Hello,   My husband Don Hicks passed away saturday the 15th of July.  He 
      >had finished building a Pietenpol and had put around 3+ hours in the 
      >air.  I need to sell this plane and would appreciate any assistance from 
      >you that know this plane.  Please contact me on 
      ><mailto:Hixplace@aol.com>Hixplace@aol.com or call me at : 
      >334-348-2422.  Thanks so very much Clara Hicks.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Pietenpol for sale | 
      
      Sorry to hear this news.
      
      
      ________________________________
      
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      Waytogopiet@aol.com
      Sent: July 19, 2006 11:19 AM
      
      
      Hello,   My husband Don Hicks passed away saturday the 15th of July.  He
      had finished building a Pietenpol and had put around 3+ hours in the
      air.  I need to sell this plane and would appreciate any assistance from
      you that know this plane.  Please contact me on Hixplace@aol.com or call
      me at : 334-348-2422.  Thanks so very much Clara Hicks.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Continental A-65/75 valve guide question | 
      
      Continental Engine Guru's,
      
      My re-print of the Continental engine manual does not give the O.D. of the original
      standard size valve guides.  The ones in the engine range from .530 to .550
      O.D, but I figure they've all been replaced at least a time or two (or three,
      or four).  So, I don't know if I need .010" over, .020" over, or some other
      larger guide I can cut down to size.
      Anybody know the O.D. of standard size valve guides in an A-65/75?
      
      Thanks in advance,
      
      Dave Mordecai
      Panacea, FL
      where NX520SF patiently awaits her crankshaft to return from Rick Roman's.....
      <html><body>
      <DIV>Continental Engine Guru's,</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>My re-print of the Continental engine manual does not give the O.D.
      of the original standard size valve guides.  The ones in the engine range
      from .530 to .550 O.D, but I figure they've all been replaced at least a
      time or two (or three, or four).  So, I don't know if I need .010" over,
      .020" over, or some other larger guide I can cut down to size.</DIV>
      <DIV>Anybody know the O.D. of standard size valve guides in an A-65/75?</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>Thanks in advance,</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>Dave Mordecai</DIV>
      <DIV>Panacea, FL</DIV>
      <DIV>where NX520SF patiently awaits her crankshaft to return from Rick Roman's.....</DIV></body></html>
      
      
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      I wish everybody safe journeys, calm air and strong tailwinds to 
      Brodhead.  However you travel there, have a safe one.  I will miss being 
      there, but Lord willing we'll be flying NX799B up next year!!
      
      Douwe
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Continental A-65/75 valve guide question | 
      
      Dave,
      My Continental Manual lists as follows.
      
      TABLE OF LIMITS                                       Min.      Max.
      Valve Guide in Cylinder Head....Diameter  .001T    .0025T
      
      Hope this is what your looking for.
      Gene
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: kmordecai001@comcast.net 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:57 PM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Continental A-65/75 valve guide question
      
      
        Continental Engine Guru's,
      
        My re-print of the Continental engine manual does not give the O.D. of 
      the original standard size valve guides.  The ones in the engine range 
      from .530 to .550 O.D, but I figure they've all been replaced at least a 
      time or two (or three, or four).  So, I don't know if I need .010" over, 
      .020" over, or some other larger guide I can cut down to size.
        Anybody know the O.D. of standard size valve guides in an A-65/75?
      
        Thanks in advance,
      
        Dave Mordecai
        Panacea, FL
        where NX520SF patiently awaits her crankshaft to return from Rick 
      Roman's.....
      
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      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Dave and Connie <dmatt@frontiernet.net>
      
      Oscar,
      When I changed brake linings on the Taylorcraft my IA told me to taxi and 
      drag the brakes.  At about 1/2 way to the end of the runway the brakes were 
      pretty well locked up and I was having problems moving.  I turned around 
      and let things cool down and they have been happy ever since.
      Dave
      N36078 '41 BC-12-65
      
      
      At 11:15 AM 7/19/2006, Oscar Zuniga wrote:
      
      >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      >
      >It's been so slow on the list lately that I thought I'd go ahead and post 
      >some info on my brakes.  As I mentioned, they are off a Cessna 172 and had 
      >life left on the linings, but one of the linings cracked somewhere along 
      >the line so I decided to proceed with replacement.  There are two tools 
      >available to remove the old rivets and set new ones... a hammer-powered 
      >one and one with a screw press.  Our EAA Chapter 35 happened to have the 
      >hammer-driven one in its tool chest so I used that one.
      >
      >It went very quickly and easily.  One punch drives out the old rivets to 
      >release the worn linings, then a different punch and set are used to head 
      >the hollow end and back up the rivet head inside the pocket in the brake 
      >lining.  Very painless.  One little improvement with these new Rapco 
      >linings is that they are now made with a wear indicator... a simple notch 
      >in one edge of the lining, approximately half the depth of the 
      >lining.  When it's worn down to where you can't see the notch anymore, you 
      >should be thinking about replacing the linings.
      >
      >According to the Rapco website and instructions, break-in of the new 
      >linings consists of a moderate taxi and application of brakes (there will 
      >be very little braking action at first), followed by a cool-down and 
      >another moderate taxi with braking.  I will try this taxi testing and 
      >brake lining break-in soon.
      >
      >Oscar Zuniga
      >San Antonio, TX
      >mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      >website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      >
      >
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      >No virus found in this incoming message.
      >
      >
      >-- incoming mail is certified Virus Free.
      >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
      
      
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| Subject:  | RE: Pietenpol-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 07/18/06 | 
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Graham and Robyn" <grhewitt@globaldial.com>
      
      If any one wants a Pic of the Johnson ASI please email me
      grhewitt@globaldial.com   Cheers Graham  I wish Brodhead was closer to
      Perth in West Australia
      
      -----Original Message-----
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      Pietenpol-List Digest Server
      Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2006 2:57 PM
      
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      Today's Message Index:
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           1. 03:53 AM - Re: Have a safe trip  ()
           2. 10:31 AM - Brodhead  (shad bell)
           3. 02:38 PM - Re: Dan from Poplar Grove  (Rcaprd@aol.com)
           4. 02:53 PM - World Aeronautical Charts  (Rcaprd@aol.com)
           5. 03:57 PM - Re: World Aeronautical Charts  (Mark Blackwell)
           6. 06:36 PM - Re: World Aeronautical Charts  (Skip-Cinda Gadd)
           7. 11:15 PM - Getting ready for Brodhead  (shad bell)
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 1
      _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 03:53:06 AM PST US
      
      Having a fan blow directly on you quickly dehydrates the body;drink
      plenty of liquids.Beer will do!Good excuse to drink beer eh!
      
      
      ________________________________
      
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      HelsperSew@aol.com
      Sent: July 17, 2006 5:38 PM
      
      
      I will be sleeping in the back of my truck.  I bought a battery powered
      fan in the camping section at Farm N" Fleet.  It has foam blades and
      will run for 20 hours on 6 D cells.  Maybe this will at least evaporate
      some of the sweat that will be pooling on my chest!  Hey, I just thought
      of something-  freeze some huge blocks of ice and have the fan breeze
      "waft" over it on its way over to by body.
      
      
      Dan Helsper
      
      Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 2
      _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 10:31:41 AM PST US
      
      Hello Group,
        My name is Shad Bell, Gary Bell's son, and just wondering if anyone
      would like
      to meet up in Ohio, Indiana, or Illinois and fly in to brodhead as a
      group.
      Dad and I plan on leaving Delaware Ohio in the early morning on friday.
      Our
      planned route is more or less following route 30 accross In, IL and
      around the
      west side of Rockford.  Our first stop should be Van Wert in N/W Ohio
      then on
      west.  We just finnished our 40 hr test phase and so far no problems
      except the
      oil presure gauge leaking into the face of the instrument.  Don't buy
      Faris
      brand engine gauges both the oil temp and pressure gauges have been
      replaced.
      The oil temp did not even last untill the 1st flight, the pressure gauge
      started
      leaking around 40 hrs.  Any way hope to see you all at Brodhead.\
         
        Shad Bell
      
       			
      ---------------------------------
      See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com.  Check it out.
      
      ________________________________  Message 3
      _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 02:38:55 PM PST US
      
      In a message dated 7/17/2006 6:52:14 PM Central Standard Time, 
      csfog@earthlink.net writes:
      Checked the 10 day forcast on wx.com.  Friday Hi and Lo 78/58. Saturday
      80/61. 20% chance rain both days.
      Maybe we will luck out this year.
      Skip
      That sounds Great !!  It was over 110=BA here in Wichita, today.
      Tomorrow i
      s 
      supposed to be a few degrees hotter.
      
      Chuck G.
      NX770CG
      
      ________________________________  Message 4
      _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 02:53:43 PM PST US
      
      I'm doing a project in my hanger, and I need more WAC's.  I want to have
      the 
      entire Continental United States on one wall of the hanger, but the wall
      isn't
      
      big enough for the Sectional Charts, so I need more of the outdated
      WAC's.  
          Does anyone know where I can get these outdated charts, or perhaps 
      someone has some they could swap for a ride at Brodhead ?  I need two
      each, of
      the 4 
      charts across the North, and the 2 on the East Coast.
      
      Chuck G.
      NX770CG
      tomorrow, I'm going to do a very thourough inspection, do a hop around
      the 
      patch, weigh and pack the gear, and top off the fuel tanks.  Gear up,
      crack o'
      
      dawn Thursday...or maybe crack o'  10am...weather is lookin' Good !!
      
      ________________________________  Message 5
      _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 03:57:11 PM PST US
      
      Just go to any chart dealer and tell them you want the outdated ones for
      
      a project that does not use them for navigation purposes.  Explain what 
      you want to do with them.  When the charts expire to get credit for the 
      ones that were unsold, they have to cut a portion of the label off and 
      send that part back.  The rest they throw away, for which you would be 
      happy to do for them.  Lots of places would likely help you out.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Rcaprd@aol.com 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:52 PM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: World Aeronautical Charts
      
      
        I'm doing a project in my hanger, and I need more WAC's.  I want to 
      have the entire Continental United States on one wall of the hanger, but
      
      the wall isn't big enough for the Sectional Charts, so I need more of 
      the outdated WAC's.  
            Does anyone know where I can get these outdated charts, or perhaps
      
      someone has some they could swap for a ride at Brodhead ?  I need two 
      each, of the 4 charts across the North, and the 2 on the East Coast.
      
        Chuck G.
        NX770CG
        tomorrow, I'm going to do a very thourough inspection, do a hop around
      
      the patch, weigh and pack the gear, and top off the fuel tanks.  Gear 
      up, crack o' dawn Thursday...or maybe crack o'  10am...weather is 
      lookin' Good !!
      
      ________________________________  Message 6
      _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 06:36:33 PM PST US
      
      Chuck,
      I will bring CF-17, CF-18, CG-21, and CH-23. We are leaving tomorrow
      morning, early.
      See you there.
      Skip
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      Sent: 7/18/2006 5:57:44 PM 
      
      
      I'm doing a project in my hanger, and I need more WAC's.  I want to have
      the entire
      Continental United States on one wall of the hanger, but the wall isn't
      big
      enough for the Sectional Charts, so I need more of the outdated WAC's.  
          Does anyone know where I can get these outdated charts, or perhaps
      someone
      has some they could swap for a ride at Brodhead ?  I need two each, of
      the 4 charts
      across the North, and the 2 on the East Coast.
      
      Chuck G.
      NX770CG
      tomorrow, I'm going to do a very thourough inspection, do a hop around
      the patch,
      weigh and pack the gear, and top off the fuel tanks.  Gear up, crack o'
      dawn
      Thursday...or maybe crack o'  10am...weather is lookin' Good !!
      
      ________________________________  Message 7
      _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 11:15:24 PM PST US
      
      Hello all,
        I've got Dad's piet in my hanger here at the house trying to get it
      ready for
      the 400 mile trip to Brodhead on friday, He is on the road and won't be
      home
      untill Thursday night.  We decided to tighten up the "X" brace cables on
      the L/H
      lift struts last sunday when the airplane was flying hands off and we
      ended
      up making it right wing heavy.  So now I get to adjust and saftywire the
      turnbuckles
      then test fly and hopefully not have to waist too much time cutting off
      safties and re-addjusting turnbuckles over and over. (should have left
      them
      alone, hind sight is 20/20).  The weather should be nice enough tommorow
      to test
      fly but I ran out of 0.040" safty wire so I have to get some more in the
      morning.
      Well it is time for bed... to all a good night and let visions of
      pietenpols
      dance in your heads.
        Shad
      
       		
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| Subject:  | Re: Pietenpol for sale | 
      
      
      Pieters,
      
      I too am sorry to hear about Dons passing; our sympathy to Clara.
      
      I have visited the Hicks in Hartford Alabama and viewed Don's Piet; to any 
      who might be interested , the workmanship is absolutely first class.  It has a
      
      Model A engine and the 'jenny' stiff leg gear.  A real gem of a Piet.
      
      Lou Larsen
      
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| Subject:  | A-75 bottom overhaul progress - pleasant surprise | 
      
      Fellow Pieters,
      
      I thought I would take a little time while the crank is in the shop to balance
      the reciprocating parts in the A-75.  Imagine my surprise when I found the rods
      within 3 grams of each other!  From looking at them you wouldn't have expected
      it, but I suppose the irregularities in material on the beam sides and rod
      ends were the result of the factory balance work.  Lot's of grinding marks & variation
      from rod to rod, but the balance is very good.  A little work with the
      grinder and now they're within 1 gram.
      Pistons are within 10 grams, but will soon be within 1 or 2 :-)    
       I know, this is way overkill for a 2600 rpm engine, but it keeps me off the streets
      & justifies the occasional purchase of tool bits.
      Also smoothed & polished the intake spider, elbows, and ports. Port matching was
      pretty good, but the surface finish was pretty rough with lot's of very rough
      spots from irregularities in the mold.  Once again, overkill for a slow running
      motor, but maybe I'll pick up a few rpm's in climbout.
      Looking forward to assembly in a couple of weeks.........
      
      Dave Mordecai
      Panacea, FL
      NX520SF
      <html><body>
      <DIV>Fellow Pieters,</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>I thought I would take a little time while the crank is in the shop to balance
      the reciprocating parts in the A-75.  Imagine my surprise when
      I found the rods within 3 grams of each other!  From looking at them
      you wouldn't have expected it, but I suppose the irregularities in material on
      the beam sides and rod ends were the result of the factory balance work. 
      Lot's of grinding marks & variation from rod to rod, but the balance is
      very good.  A little work with the grinder and now they're within
      1 gram.</DIV>
      <DIV>Pistons are within 10 grams, but will soon be within 1 or 2 :-)    </DIV>
      <DIV> I know, this is way overkill for a 2600 rpm engine, but it keeps me
      off the streets & justifies the occasional purchase of tool bits.</DIV>
      <DIV>Also smoothed & polished the intake spider, elbows, and ports. Port matching
      was pretty good, but the surface finish was pretty rough with lot's of
      very rough spots from irregularities in the mold.  Once again, overkill for
      a slow running motor, but maybe I'll pick up a few rpm's in climbout.</DIV>
      <DIV>Looking forward to assembly in a couple of weeks.........</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>Dave Mordecai</DIV>
      <DIV>Panacea, FL</DIV>
      <DIV>NX520SF</DIV>
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