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1. 11:52 AM - Oil pressure gage (Gene & Tammy)
2. 02:29 PM - Don's 'Piet (Waytogopiet@aol.com)
3. 02:56 PM - Re: Memories from last year's gatherng (Michael Fisher)
4. 02:58 PM - Please take me off Your list as I didn't sign up for any of them. (dave brian)
5. 04:50 PM - Re: Oil pressure gage (Rcaprd@aol.com)
6. 05:27 PM - Re: Oil pressure gage (Isablcorky@aol.com)
7. 05:51 PM - Oil pressure gauge (Oscar Zuniga)
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| Subject: | Oil pressure gage |
Ok, here goes. The oil pressure gage I have on my Pietenpol with the
Cont. 65 reads from 0 to 100 PSI. I find it hard to tell just what my
oil pressure really is (it reads just a little north of 25 so is it 27
or 30 or maybe even 31??). I'm going to change to one that reads 0 to
50 PSI. Here's my question (I've asked two different mechanics and
received two different answers). "Should the line going to the gage be
full of oil, partially full of oil or full of air?" If it needs to be
full of oil what is the best way to fill the line (without filling the
cockpit and surrounding area}.
Thank you (please bear with me as I'm going from many years of two
strokes to 4 strokes)
Gene
N502R
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Hello again, sorry to bother you guys, but I have had several phone calls
regarding the 'Piet and e-mail addresses, that were left on the answering
machine. For some crazy reason the numbers are fuzzy on the recording. It would
be
great if you could e-mail me on Hixplace@aol.com ,that way I could respond
correctly. So sorry for the interruptions on your chat. If any of you are going
to Broadhead, I would appreciate your putting an ad for this 'Piet on the
bulletin board. It is a Classic..model A engine, the 'jenny' stiff leg gear.
I
have pictures of the 'Piet in construction, from the beginning of the first
load of wood that arrived from Oregon. I am asking $14,000 OBO. Thanks
again..Clara
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| Subject: | Re: Memories from last year's gatherng |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael Fisher <mfisher@gci.net>
Pietenpol group,
Best wishes from Alaska. I will be with you in spirit, but not in person for this
year. Still tinkering with my 116 cubic inch, direct drive, inverted Ford/Scout
powerplant. What kind of test pilot would advance the throttle of this unproven
engine while accelerating down the runway and hoping for the best --- one
with big tanates or a candidate for the Darwin Award? Bernard H. did it back
in 1929.
Happy landings.
Mike Fisher
Talkeetna, Alaska
I remember speaking with a guy last year who flew in commercially from Alaska
to Madison, Wi, with his bicycle, then biked to Brodhead with plans to bike to
Oshkosh from there. Pretty cool....
Dear Aviation Friends and Family,
The Brodhead, Wisconsin airport is an old fashioned flying field with three grass
runways. Every summer it hosts a gathering of enthusiasts who love old airplanes
--- mostly homebuilt Pietenpol Scouts and Aircampers along with some other
old classics and experimentals.
As I rode my bicycle into the airport about 6:00 PM, July 20, a small biplane with
radial engine had just landed. It turned out to be a Hatz experimental with
a 145 HP Warner engine. Upon learning that I had traveled from Alaska to see
airplanes that were out of the ordinary, the owner/builder offered me a ride.
What an interesting flight! A steep climb lofts us above the lush farmlands.
The front cockpit passenger is seated four feet behind the; #1 cylinder exhaust
stack, where the reason for the earplugs offered by the pilot becomes apparent.
Conversation, even with an intercom, would be difficult.
The pilot, Larry, a senior airline captain nearing retirement, is very smooth.
His fondness for the little red biplane with a big engine shows in the way he
handles it. The owner/builder, Mehlin Smith, hand built the Hatz over the course
of 27 years and probably 5000 hours of skilled craftsmanship. No detail was
too trivial to be refined near perfection. My enthusiasm must have showed because
Mr.Smith offered to let me check myself out in his airplane. I almost took
him up on this generosity. Then the question occured: would I turn a near total
stranger loose in my airplane under like circumstances? Since the answer was
no, I declined. Still, it is a good feeling to be one of the trusted.
Entering or exiting either cockpit gracefully requires a series of precise moves,
not unlike Yoga or Ti Kwan Do.
The practical usefulness of such aircraft is limited by the very thing that makes
them so appealing. To damage one in any way would be considered almost as a
criminal act. Want to land on some little patch of tundra in the wilderness of
Alaska where the fishing is world class? Don't do it in a heritage showplane.
Get in the old beat-up Supercub and land with your eyeballs caged, shoulder
harness cinched, and brakes on. With skill and luck, you'll pull off these high
risk landings off 99 times out of 100. The occasional crash, usually minor,
is the price some are willing and able to pay for access to the secret and unspoiled
nature cathederals of Alaska. And never forget --- one aw-shit cancels
out a hundred attaboys!
Oshkosh was huge, bold, brassy, loud, and colorful --- an anti-climax after the
calm, informal family picnic that is Bernard H. Pietenpol days at Brodhead. Highlights
were presentations by General Chuck Yeager and test pilot, Bob Hoover.;
I was privileged to ask Mr. Hoover about his certificate action confrontation
with some federal flight standards inspectors. The outcome changed aviation
law and should encourage any pilot facing a like challenge. I will cover the
details in a separate e-mail.
The teenagers at Oshkosh are an interesting group. The boys mostly look like they
could be in the starting five for their basketball team and the girls could
be track, swimming, or volleyball competitors. No facial or navel hardware will
be seen here. Hair and dress styles trend toward the modest and stylish. These
kids love airplanes and ask intelligent questions. They would be my type of
flight training students.
I met Simon Smith and his family at Brodhead. These folks build their own airplanes
and take great pride in flying and maintaining them. Simon is one of the
very few lifetime EAA members. As such, he and his guests enjoy some perks such
as camping privileges in a grove of stately oak trees right at the center of
the action. I narrowly missed out on this because Simon was attending the annual
Cub show at New Holstein when I called him. I met Steve Gay in Talkeetna when
he was helping his son, Charlie, with a rebuild project at K-2 Aviation, where
Charlie was director of maintenance. Steve invited me to join them in camping
out under the wing of their Beech Queenair --- the only one at the show.
It was real fun to hang out and talk airplanes with happy, industrious families
like the Gays and the Smiths. I look forward to doing it again.
With best wishes to all,
;Mike Fisher
Do not archive.
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| Subject: | Please take me off Your list as I didn't sign up for any |
of them.
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: dave brian <evadsti@mac.com>
Please take me off Your list as I didn't sign up for any of them.
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| Subject: | Re: Oil pressure gage |
In a message dated 7/22/2006 1:54:06 PM Central Standard Time,
zharvey@bellsouth.net writes:
"Should the line going to the gage be full of oil, partially full of oil or
full of air?" If it needs to be full of oil what is the best way to fill the
line (without filling the cockpit and surrounding area}.
Gene,
The Line should be full of oil. The best way, after you install your new
gauge, is to have the line disconnected at the gauge, and pointing into a small
cup or something, then simply flip the prop over and over, till you have oil
coming out, then reconnect the line to the gauge. Be certain the mags are OFF,
or Grounded. I don't like the cheap oil pressure gauges. The Stewert
Warner oil pressure gauge on my A65 reads about 35 psi at cruise speed.
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Re: Oil pressure gage |
Hey Smokey,
What is you present location, altitude, heading and attitude????????????????
Corky
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| Subject: | Oil pressure gauge |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Hey, Gene-
I replaced the oil pressure gauge on 41CC and had the oil sump off the
engine as well as all the oil pressure hoses and tubing. When I built the
system back up again and replaced the gauge, I worried about the air thing
too, but just started the engine up after refilling the sump and everything
worked OK the instant the engine fired up. I suppose that air trapped in
the Bourdon tube in the gauge, or in the lines, may cause some sort of
pulsations- but I haven't seen any. Pressure is pressure, air or oil in the
line, and I don't think it makes any difference. However, if you want to
try bleeding the air out of your line- good luck. I foresee oil in your
future ;o)
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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