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1. 05:57 AM - latex test square (Douwe Blumberg)
2. 06:27 AM - Website Listing (Jack T. Textor)
3. 06:30 AM - Re: Ply spar question (Jack T. Textor)
4. 11:02 AM - Re: latex test square (long) (Gary Gower)
5. 12:15 PM - Re: latex test square (long) (Steve Eldredge)
6. 02:27 PM - Toiletpapering and spoke wheels (Don Emch)
7. 05:06 PM - Re: latex test square (long) (Catdesigns)
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| Subject: | latex test square |
Hey,
I don't remember who posted about his latex test square of ceconite, but
I had a thought. The post said he put two coats of butyrate then the
latex. Just remember on the actual plane, that butyrate doesn't stick
to ceconite. You have to use some coats of nitrate first, then your
butyrate will stick to the nitrate. Shouldn't matter on a test, but
WILL matter on the real deal.
Douwe
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Piet builder and flyer sites have been invaluable to me in the building
process. I would like to compile a listing of all the sites, then cut
and paste on one page to send to the email list for the archives. Would
all Piet website owners' email me their name and site address in the
following format:
www.textors.com <http://www.textors.com/> Jack Textor
Email to: jtextor@thepalmergroup.com
When I get it compiled I will send to the list. Also, I added some
pictures from Brodhead, Oshkosh and some building shots to my site
www.textors.com <http://www.textors.com/> .
Brodhead and Oshkosh are at the bottom of Miscellaneous and the building
shots are under the Piet Project page.
Thanks to all, happy Friday!
Jack Textor
Des Moines
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| Subject: | Ply spar question |
Dan,
I'm using the built-up method. 9mm 7 ply marine ply for the web and
5/16 x 1+ caps of Douglas fir. You can see pictures at my site
www.textors.com <http://www.textors.com/> .
Jack Textor
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| Subject: | Re: latex test square (long) |
Hello Douwe and all,
Something that is missing here is that Nothing will "glue" to the Dacron (Ceconite)
how it holds on is by mechanical "grab" around the fiber, so the Latex can
be painted direct to the Dacron and it will hold forever, (once dried completly).
This is first hand experience, I had to make a hole (inspection window) in my
Ladder Pou to check inside the wing. It was painted 3 years ago and looks like
new.
Well, my first thought was just to wipe the old latex down to the cloth around
the patch area to (contact) glue the patch.
For my surprise, niether the Thinner or the Acetone will disolve the latex!!!
What I did was to sand the glueing area with coars sanding paper to get the glue
to grab (without touching the fibers). iron the patch as normal procedure,
then paint the latex (left over can and still in good condition 3 years later,
just well shaken), 3 hands in 90 degrees strokes. 5 days later, you can hardly
notice where the patch is.
This is my second experience with Latex, will never use anything else.
You want some gloss? just give a last hand of water based poliuretane clear barnish
and look like (or better than) the Big Bucks paint...
This is real first hand experience, but you can spend your money in any covering
procedure you wish :-)
Note: I use the "Generic" inexpensive Dacron from Spruce also...
Saludos
Gary Gower
Flying from Chapala, Mexico.
"La Bamba" Ladder Pou.
Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> wrote: Hey,
I don't remember who posted about his latex test square of ceconite, but I had
a thought. The post said he put two coats of butyrate then the latex. Just
remember on the actual plane, that butyrate doesn't stick to ceconite. You
have to use some coats of nitrate first, then your butyrate will stick to the
nitrate. Shouldn't matter on a test, but WILL matter on the real deal.
Douwe
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| Subject: | latex test square (long) |
Hi all,
I'm flying my piet that is starting its tenth year of life under latex
finish. I've repaired it as well. I used the high gloss Sherwin
Williams and don't regret it. Check the archives for the process I
used. Nice thing is, two years ago when I needed to repair a wingtip, I
marched down to the local paint store and they mixed up a quart of the
same color and you can't tell where the repair is. An iron at about 250
will roll the old latex off exposing the underlying fabric nicely. No
sanding. Very cool.
Steve E
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Gower
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: latex test square (long)
Hello Douwe and all,
Something that is missing here is that Nothing will "glue" to the Dacron
(Ceconite) how it holds on is by mechanical "grab" around the fiber, so
the Latex can be painted direct to the Dacron and it will hold forever,
(once dried completly).
This is first hand experience, I had to make a hole (inspection window)
in my Ladder Pou to check inside the wing. It was painted 3 years ago
and looks like new.
Well, my first thought was just to wipe the old latex down to the cloth
around the patch area to (contact) glue the patch.
For my surprise, niether the Thinner or the Acetone will disolve the
latex!!!
What I did was to sand the glueing area with coars sanding paper to get
the glue to grab (without touching the fibers). iron the patch as
normal procedure, then paint the latex (left over can and still in good
condition 3 years later, just well shaken), 3 hands in 90 degrees
strokes. 5 days later, you can hardly notice where the patch is.
This is my second experience with Latex, will never use anything else.
You want some gloss? just give a last hand of water based poliuretane
clear barnish and look like (or better than) the Big Bucks paint...
This is real first hand experience, but you can spend your money in any
covering procedure you wish :-)
Note: I use the "Generic" inexpensive Dacron from Spruce also...
Saludos
Gary Gower
Flying from Chapala, Mexico.
"La Bamba" Ladder Pou.
Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> wrote:
Hey,
I don't remember who posted about his latex test square of ceconite, but
I had a thought. The post said he put two coats of butyrate then the
latex. Just remember on the actual plane, that butyrate doesn't stick
to ceconite. You have to use some coats of nitrate first, then your
butyrate will stick to the nitrate. Shouldn't matter on a test, but
WILL matter on the real deal.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Toiletpapering and spoke wheels |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Mike and Chuck,
Thanks for the 'how to's' of toiletpapering! I was just driving home on this beautiful
Friday afternoon thinking about getting a flight in tonight. It's been
about 20 years since I've done the other kind of 'TPing' and thought maybe
it's time to try this new twist on it. With those excellent instructions I just
need to raid the bathroom and I'll be on my way!
When I made my spoke wheels I talked to Buchannon's before I made anything. They
are very good to talk to and will gladly give you sizes and talk airplanes.
You don't have to say they are for a go-cart or anything like that. Really
know what they are doing.
Don E.
NX899DE
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=54227#54227
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| Subject: | Re: latex test square (long) |
Steve, I cant believe its been 10 years.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Eldredge
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: latex test square (long)
Hi all,
I'm flying my piet that is starting its tenth year of life under latex
finish. I've repaired it as well. I used the high gloss Sherwin
Williams and don't regret it. Check the archives for the process I
used. Nice thing is, two years ago when I needed to repair a wingtip, I
marched down to the local paint store and they mixed up a quart of the
same color and you can't tell where the repair is. An iron at about 250
will roll the old latex off exposing the underlying fabric nicely. No
sanding. Very cool.
Steve E
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Gower
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 12:00 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: latex test square (long)
Hello Douwe and all,
Something that is missing here is that Nothing will "glue" to the
Dacron (Ceconite) how it holds on is by mechanical "grab" around the
fiber, so the Latex can be painted direct to the Dacron and it will hold
forever, (once dried completly).
This is first hand experience, I had to make a hole (inspection
window) in my Ladder Pou to check inside the wing. It was painted 3
years ago and looks like new.
Well, my first thought was just to wipe the old latex down to the
cloth around the patch area to (contact) glue the patch.
For my surprise, niether the Thinner or the Acetone will disolve the
latex!!!
What I did was to sand the glueing area with coars sanding paper to
get the glue to grab (without touching the fibers). iron the patch as
normal procedure, then paint the latex (left over can and still in good
condition 3 years later, just well shaken), 3 hands in 90 degrees
strokes. 5 days later, you can hardly notice where the patch is.
This is my second experience with Latex, will never use anything
else.
You want some gloss? just give a last hand of water based poliuretane
clear barnish and look like (or better than) the Big Bucks paint...
This is real first hand experience, but you can spend your money in
any covering procedure you wish :-)
Note: I use the "Generic" inexpensive Dacron from Spruce also...
Saludos
Gary Gower
Flying from Chapala, Mexico.
"La Bamba" Ladder Pou.
Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> wrote:
Hey,
I don't remember who posted about his latex test square of ceconite,
but I had a thought. The post said he put two coats of butyrate then
the latex. Just remember on the actual plane, that butyrate doesn't
stick to ceconite. You have to use some coats of nitrate first, then
your butyrate will stick to the nitrate. Shouldn't matter on a test,
but WILL matter on the real deal.
Douwe
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