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1. 03:11 AM - Re: had my BFR today (walt evans)
2. 06:12 AM - Re: fuse survey (Michael D Cuy)
3. 06:37 AM - Re: Aaooogha horns ()
4. 06:49 AM - Re: Aaooogha horns (Phillips, Jack)
5. 07:49 AM - Re: latex test square (long) (Steve Eldredge)
6. 10:47 AM - Pietenpol Websites (Jack T. Textor)
7. 02:48 PM - Re: Aaooogha horns (Alan Lyscars)
8. 02:54 PM - Re: Aaooogha horns (pietflyr)
9. 03:00 PM - California to Oshkosh & Back (Rcaprd@aol.com)
10. 03:52 PM - Re: California to Oshkosh & Back (GlennThomas@flyingwood.com)
11. 04:22 PM - Re: Pietenpol Websites (GlennThomas@flyingwood.com)
12. 07:27 PM - Re: smoke tank (Wizzard187@aol.com)
13. 08:29 PM - Re: fuse survey (Gene Rambo)
14. 11:00 PM - Re: California to Oshkosh & Back (Catdesigns)
15. 11:01 PM - Re: Re: Wood Gear and "Deck Angle" (Catdesigns)
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Subject: | Re: had my BFR today |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
Oscar,
One pattern yesterday found the instructors hand over the Cub's airspeed,
for the whole ride including the rollout.
80% of her BFR check is "engine outs".
Her feeling is that "if I can get you and the plane on the ground, and you
can walk away, I did my job".
Even had to do some special maneuvers to avoid Geese on the runway during
slipping in from an engine out..
One of my logbook entries by her was "Goose ops".
Ain't Life Grand.
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 10:08 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: had my BFR today
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
> <<<snip>>>
>> downwind (except to clear the engine) and anytime my instructor was
>> aboard
> and we'd be turning base, I'd hear him ask me, "high or low? Fast or
> slow?" which caused me to check my airspeed and position relative to the
> numbers so I could adjust before it was too late.
> <<<snip>>>
>>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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but you (Gene Rambo) only asked for fuse type and gear type !
At 12:46 PM 8/12/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>Andrea had asked for a axle/wing placement survey, and the first response
>gave those figures without mentioning which fuselage or gear types, which
>makes all of the difference in the world. Likewise, wink wink, the
>fuselage and gear type does not do much without the axle/wing placement
>info . . .
>
>Gene
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>From: <mailto:Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>Michael D Cuy
>To: <mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 11:24 AM
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: fuse survey
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
I used to have one on my Gremlin(gives you an idea how long ago).My wife
hated it and I loved it.They are loud and very erratable.The were once
used on the old modal T fords.If you are using a modal A engine on your
plane then it will fit right in.They can be adjusted for slightly
different sounds but the end result is the same
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!.Gre
at!
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Ruse
Sent: August 14, 2006 7:49 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aaooogha horns
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Ruse"
<steve@wotelectronics.com>
Anybody have one of these? How does it sound? Too many bad pilots
around
here, and I need a way to give them a piece of my mind.
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ItemBrowse/c-10101/s-10101/p-10000017
8495
/mediaCode-ZX/appId-100000178495/Pr-p_CATENTRY_ID:100000178495
(not really)
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
I've got one on my Pietenpol. You really can't hear it over the engine
in flight. Fun on the ramp, though.
Jack Phillips
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
harvey.rule@bell.ca
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Aaooogha horns
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
I used to have one on my Gremlin(gives you an idea how long ago).My wife
hated it and I loved it.They are loud and very erratable.The were once
used on the old modal T fords.If you are using a modal A engine on your
plane then it will fit right in.They can be adjusted for slightly
different sounds but the end result is the same
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!.Gre
at!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Ruse
Sent: August 14, 2006 7:49 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aaooogha horns
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Steve Ruse"
<steve@wotelectronics.com>
Anybody have one of these? How does it sound? Too many bad pilots
around
here, and I need a way to give them a piece of my mind.
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ItemBrowse/c-10101/s-10101/p-10000017
8495
/mediaCode-ZX/appId-100000178495/Pr-p_CATENTRY_ID:100000178495
(not really)
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
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Subject: | latex test square (long) |
No Kidding! I'll tell you what though, building the piet has been the
only thing that has kept me in the air. I simply couldn't have afforded
the cost of renting. The piet has been my magic carpet and allowed me
to escape once in a while. I'm nearly done with my Stinson restoration,
and I'm worried now that I'll still prefer to fly the pietenpol on
evening flights just for fun. Here is my journal entry for Saturday....
I woke up to a beautiful morning and had to decide whether to go flying
or work in the garage on my Stinson. Summer is going to be over all too
soon, I saw the first yellow leaves on our trees..., I decided to pack a
bagel and a bottle of water and head to the airport. I went alone and
filled the tanks. I meandered south towards Nephi and then to Yuba
Lake. Across the mountains I would have found Manti, but the lake was
my destination. On the way I made a pit-stop in Nephi. Not a soul was
there. I didn't even shut down the engine before hopping back in and
continuing my journey. I found a town that I'd never known about south
of Nephi. A quaint town with a gas station in the very center and only
3 or 4 blocks of houses in each direction. I wondered what it would be
like to live there. Raw land everywhere else. I wonder how much a
section would cost. I took a few pictures and admired the landscape
from less than 500' most of the time. I dropped down lower, maybe 50'
or so where there were no buildings or people. There is no feeling of
great speed even at that low altitude. 60mph isn't that fast. Turns
out I flew right over Dave and Maurice when I went over the dam. They
were having fun catching Pike. I saw them in their float tubes, but
didn't recognize them. I should have snapped a picture just in case,
but didn't. I chases a train, and contemplated landing between the
taxiway and runway at Nephi in the fresh hay stubble. Didn't. 2.1
hours logged and a full tank of gas spent. Back home by 10am.
Steve E
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Catdesigns
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: latex test square (long)
Steve, I cant believe its been 10 years.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
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----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Eldredge <mailto:steve@byu.edu>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: latex test square (long)
Hi all,
I'm flying my piet that is starting its tenth year of life under
latex finish. I've repaired it as well. I used the high gloss Sherwin
Williams and don't regret it. Check the archives for the process I
used. Nice thing is, two years ago when I needed to repair a wingtip, I
marched down to the local paint store and they mixed up a quart of the
same color and you can't tell where the repair is. An iron at about 250
will roll the old latex off exposing the underlying fabric nicely. No
sanding. Very cool.
Steve E
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Gower
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 12:00 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: latex test square (long)
Hello Douwe and all,
Something that is missing here is that Nothing will "glue" to
the Dacron (Ceconite) how it holds on is by mechanical "grab" around
the fiber, so the Latex can be painted direct to the Dacron and it will
hold forever, (once dried completly).
This is first hand experience, I had to make a hole (inspection
window) in my Ladder Pou to check inside the wing. It was painted 3
years ago and looks like new.
Well, my first thought was just to wipe the old latex down to
the cloth around the patch area to (contact) glue the patch.
For my surprise, niether the Thinner or the Acetone will disolve
the latex!!!
What I did was to sand the glueing area with coars sanding paper
to get the glue to grab (without touching the fibers). iron the patch
as normal procedure, then paint the latex (left over can and still in
good condition 3 years later, just well shaken), 3 hands in 90 degrees
strokes. 5 days later, you can hardly notice where the patch is.
This is my second experience with Latex, will never use
anything else.
You want some gloss? just give a last hand of water based
poliuretane clear barnish and look like (or better than) the Big Bucks
paint...
This is real first hand experience, but you can spend your money
in any covering procedure you wish :-)
Note: I use the "Generic" inexpensive Dacron from Spruce
also...
Saludos
Gary Gower
Flying from Chapala, Mexico.
"La Bamba" Ladder Pou.
Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> wrote:
Hey,
I don't remember who posted about his latex test square of
ceconite, but I had a thought. The post said he put two coats of
butyrate then the latex. Just remember on the actual plane, that
butyrate doesn't stick to ceconite. You have to use some coats of
nitrate first, then your butyrate will stick to the nitrate. Shouldn't
matter on a test, but WILL matter on the real deal.
Douwe
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Subject: | Pietenpol Websites |
Thanks to those that responded to my request for their sites. I added
some others that I also had. If your website is not listed and you
would like to include it, please email me directly at
jtextor@thepalmergroup.com. Also, besides these sites there are a bunch
of good pictures at www.mykitplane.com <http://www.mykitplane.com/> .
Jack Textor
Des Moines, IA
Pietenpol Websites
http://www.pressenter.com/~apietenp Pietenpol family site
www.textors.com <http://www.textors.com/> Jack Textor
http://www.cpc-world.com <http://www.cpc-world.com/> Peter Johnson
http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/CorkyPiet.html Oscar Zuniga, P.E.
http://www.hometown.aol.com/hvandervoo/indexfront.html Hans van der
Voort
http://nx770cg.com/ Chuck Gantzer
http://www.eaa1344.com/Projects/Stinemetze/stinemetze.htm
<http://www.eaa1344.com/> Tom Stinemetze
http://andrea.modelberg.it/index_e.html Andrea Vavassori
http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper DJ Vegh
http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/John_piet.html John Dilatush
http://www.pietenpolclub.co.uk <http://www.pietenpolclub.co.uk/> UK
Piet Club
http://users.aol.com/bpabpabpa/cuyvideo.html Mike Cuy's Video
http://www.pietenpol.org <http://www.pietenpol.org/> Brodhead Pietenpol
Association
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=16&groupid=130718&ck
Jack
Phillips
http://www.pjshenton.go-plus.net/default.htm The UK Pietenpol Club
http://www.pietenpolclub.co.uk/US%20Campers/gregand%20dales.htm Greg &
Dales Piet
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/joepiet/album?.dir=5f03 Joes Piet pics
http://www.clifdawson.ca/index.html Cliff Dawson's page
http://www.flyingwood.com <http://www.flyingwood.com/> G.W. Thomas
http://www.westcoastpiet.com <http://www.westcoastpiet.com/> West Coast
Piet
http://www.hometown.aol.com/hvandervoo/indexfront.html Hans van der
Voort
http://www.mykitplane.com <http://www.mykitplane.com/> My KitPlane.com
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Subject: | Re: Aaooogha horns |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alan Lyscars" <alyscars@maine.rr.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 9:48 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Aaooogha horns
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack"
<Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
>
> I've got one on my Pietenpol. You really can't hear it over the engine
> in flight. Fun on the ramp, though.
>
> Jack Phillips
>
Jack,
I wonder if it could be heard better from the ground (<100 ft) if it was
pointed backwards?
AL
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "pietflyr" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Mine points straight down and is mounted on the firewall. I'm sure it would be
louder if it were outside the cowling
Jack
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alan
Lyscars
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aaooogha horns
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Alan Lyscars" <alyscars@maine.rr.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 9:48 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Aaooogha horns
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack"
<Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
>
> I've got one on my Pietenpol. You really can't hear it over the engine
> in flight. Fun on the ramp, though.
>
> Jack Phillips
>
Jack,
I wonder if it could be heard better from the ground (<100 ft) if it was
pointed backwards?
AL
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Subject: | California to Oshkosh & Back |
I know you guys are going to enjoy these pictures. They are from some guys
that made that trip this year...but I don't know who it was. Really some
fantastic sceenery. One of these days I'm going to do a lap around those mountains
!!
Chuck G.
NX770CG
OSHKOSH 2006
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Subject: | Re: California to Oshkosh & Back |
Chuck,
Thanks for passing that along. It was downright awesome!
Glenn W. Thomas
Storrs, CT
http://www.flyingwood.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Rcaprd@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 5:59 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: California to Oshkosh & Back
I know you guys are going to enjoy these pictures. They are from some
guys that made that trip this year...but I don't know who it was.
Really some fantastic sceenery. One of these days I'm going to do a lap
around those mountains !!
Chuck G.
NX770CG
OSHKOSH 2006
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Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Websites |
Thanks Jack,
This was a great idea!
Glenn W. Thomas
Storrs, CT
http://www.flyingwood.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack T. Textor
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 11:51 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Websites
Thanks to those that responded to my request for their sites. I added
some others that I also had. If your website is not listed and you
would like to include it, please email me directly at
jtextor@thepalmergroup.com. Also, besides these sites there are a bunch
of good pictures at www.mykitplane.com .
Jack Textor
Des Moines, IA
Pietenpol Websites
http://www.pressenter.com/~apietenp Pietenpol family site
www.textors.com Jack Textor
http://www.cpc-world.com Peter Johnson
http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/CorkyPiet.html Oscar Zuniga, P.E.
http://www.hometown.aol.com/hvandervoo/indexfront.html Hans van der
Voort
http://nx770cg.com/ Chuck Gantzer
http://www.eaa1344.com/Projects/Stinemetze/stinemetze.htm Tom
Stinemetze
http://andrea.modelberg.it/index_e.html Andrea Vavassori
http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper DJ Vegh
http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/John_piet.html John Dilatush
http://www.pietenpolclub.co.uk UK Piet Club
http://users.aol.com/bpabpabpa/cuyvideo.html Mike Cuy's Video
http://www.pietenpol.org Brodhead Pietenpol Association
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=16&groupid=130718&ck
Jack Phillips
http://www.pjshenton.go-plus.net/default.htm The UK Pietenpol Club
http://www.pietenpolclub.co.uk/US%20Campers/gregand%20dales.htm Greg &
Dales Piet
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/joepiet/album?.dir=5f03 Joes Piet pics
http://www.clifdawson.ca/index.html Cliff Dawson's page
http://www.flyingwood.com G.W. Thomas
http://www.westcoastpiet.com West Coast Piet
http://www.hometown.aol.com/hvandervoo/indexfront.html Hans van der
Voort
http://www.mykitplane.com My KitPlane.com
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Pieters; For you smokers; I am thinking about putting in a smoke tank
and wonder how long the smoke will last per quart or gallon. Also would a
pressure tank be best or a small windshield pump. Amy suggesting would be
appreciated. Thanks in very nice Iowa.
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Subject: | Re: California to Oshkosh & Back |
I've flown from Sacramento to Ogden (north of Salt Lake)and Sacramento
to Idaho Falls several time in a 182. The scenery is way better in
person. The Great Salt Lake is really interesting from the air. If
(When) I get my Piet done, I will fly the same rout on my way to visit
Steve in Provo and continue on to Brodhead. I think all you guys should
fly your Piet out here so I can see them, I've still only seen one Piet
in person and have never seen one fly.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Rcaprd@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 2:59 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: California to Oshkosh & Back
I know you guys are going to enjoy these pictures. They are from some
guys that made that trip this year...but I don't know who it was.
Really some fantastic sceenery. One of these days I'm going to do a lap
around those mountains !!
Chuck G.
NX770CG
OSHKOSH 2006
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Subject: | Re: Wood Gear and "Deck Angle" |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Catdesigns" <catdesigns@comcast.net>
Thanks Don. I'll be running 19" rims too.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:59 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood Gear and "Deck Angle"
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
>
> Chris,
> I have a fairly high deck angle of about 15 degrees. I have steel gear
> with spoke wheels that are about 26" tall (19" rims). I really like the
> high angle. The runway is totally blind in the flare but when I land
> 3-point it is all done flying for sure. I've learned the trick to getting
> no-bounce landings is to definately have the tail at the ground when the
> mains are even though it seems to be a very high angle. I do know that
> Frank Pavliga lengthened his wood gear somewhat to get a more 'correct
> angle'. This is because the "Flying and Glider Manual" wood gear was
> designed for the shorter fuselage. When you go to the longer fuselage the
> gear would need to be lengthened somewhat to maintain the same 3-point
> attitude. Frank and I have nearly the same deck angle. Others have less
> though, and seem to really like it too.
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=54588#54588
>
>
>
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