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1. 05:49 AM - Re: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!! (Isablcorky@aol.com)
2. 06:02 AM - Island hopping, Fisherman Style (Michael D Cuy)
3. 06:40 AM - Re: Island hopping, Fisherman Style (Jack T. Textor)
4. 07:09 AM - BPA newsletter (Dick Navratil)
5. 07:17 AM - Re: Island hopping, Fisherman Style (D.Reid)
6. 07:24 AM - Re: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!! (Mark Blackwell)
7. 07:28 AM - 8.00 x 4 Goodyear tires on eBay (Jack T. Textor)
8. 07:53 AM - Re: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!! (D.Reid)
9. 08:15 AM - BPA newsletter (Hans Vander Voort)
10. 09:16 AM - Re: Island hopping (bike.mike)
11. 09:40 AM - Re: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!! (Gene & Tammy)
12. 10:49 AM - Re: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!! (D.Reid)
13. 11:08 AM - photo of an Ultra Piet in water-- attached (Michael D Cuy)
14. 11:11 AM - Model A Travails (Larry Nelson)
15. 11:38 AM - Re: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!! (Dog67@aol.com)
16. 11:49 AM - Re: photo of an Ultra Piet in water-- attached (D.Reid)
17. 11:51 AM - Re: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!! (bike.mike)
18. 05:24 PM - Re: photo of an Ultra Piet in water-- attached (DOUGLAS BLACKBURN)
19. 06:36 PM - Re: 8.00 x 4 Goodyear tires on eBay (Cinda Gadd)
20. 06:54 PM - Parallel struts and Gene's question (Don Emch)
21. 06:55 PM - J3 lift struts on ebay (Cinda Gadd)
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| Subject: | Re: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!! |
Ping Pong balls available.
NATHAN
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| Subject: | Island hopping, Fisherman Style |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
This is the guy you wanna talk with about Island Hopping----Ray Axillou:
Fisherman, World Trade Expert, Belize resident, and
regular customer at Home Depot and Lowes to buy aircraft crap grade
materials to fly overwater.
They call his plane "The Wings of Home Depot".
I say if you have the coconuts to fly 60-70 miles over shark infested
waters in a Piet then go for it.....but the nice farmlands of
the midwest have my heart wrapped up. Would be very cool to make a trip
to those islands once......with sedation....and then
talk about it over beer for the next 20 years tho !
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Island hopping, Fisherman Style |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
Let's see from 10,000 feet could you glide 1/2 the distance? Has Ray
sold that pile of lumber yet?
Jack Textor
Do not archive
This is the guy you wanna talk with about Island Hopping----Ray Axillou:
Fisherman, World Trade Expert, Belize resident, and
regular customer at Home Depot and Lowes to buy aircraft crap grade
materials to fly overwater.
They call his plane "The Wings of Home Depot".
I say if you have the coconuts to fly 60-70 miles over shark infested
waters in a Piet then go for it.....but the nice farmlands of
the midwest have my heart wrapped up. Would be very cool to make a
trip
to those islands once......with sedation....and then
talk about it over beer for the next 20 years tho !
Mike C.
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Did anyone else get the good news about the BPA newsletter? Doc Mosher
is taking over as editor. For any who don't know Doc, he is an
extremely knowlegable and very nice guy. It should be a big
improvement.
It's nice to keep up with the Pietenpol news including those who don't
have computers also. Also nice to hear whats happening around Brodhead
airport.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: Island hopping, Fisherman Style |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "D.Reid" <dreidjax@alltel.net>
Well Mike. Belize is a little farther "Hop" than I had in mind...unless...I
take "the great circle route". Now THATS an idea! I could fly down around
the gulf coast, down Texas and Mexico to the Yucatan...to... Hmmmmm....as
Charles Lindburgh put it..."All the way to that knothole"!
Actually, after a long day in the shop working on the Piet, looking at all
that wood...and wood floats... and that big front seat area that would hold
a life raft and survival gear...just in case, kinda got my "gears" turning.
Oh.....and speaking of beer, I guess being hot and tired those last couple
of beers of the evening made a "believer" out of me. Thanks for snapping me
back to reality.
But...The last part of your post sounded like you were "softening up" a
little...Yep!...it would be something to talk about! I would probably get
hasseled by Customs when it came time to reinter the country. They would
think probably think I was trying to smuggle a priceless antique into the
country without declaring it.
But still...think of the possibilities. Hmmmm....
Dave...(Delerious from the heat)... Down in Florida
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:01 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Island hopping, Fisherman Style
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Michael D Cuy
> <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
>
>
> This is the guy you wanna talk with about Island Hopping----Ray Axillou:
> Fisherman, World Trade Expert, Belize resident, and
> regular customer at Home Depot and Lowes to buy aircraft crap grade
> materials to fly overwater.
>
> They call his plane "The Wings of Home Depot".
>
> I say if you have the coconuts to fly 60-70 miles over shark infested
> waters in a Piet then go for it.....but the nice farmlands of
> the midwest have my heart wrapped up. Would be very cool to make a trip
> to those islands once......with sedation....and then
> talk about it over beer for the next 20 years tho !
>
> Mike C.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!! |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell <markb1958@verizon.net>
It would bring into question one other thing though. Is an experimental
US airworthiness certificate valid outside the US? The answer may
depend on where outside the US. I know you most likely need a rider on
your insurance policy to make that happen. I almost did that trip once
and now regret not getting the chance.
D.Reid wrote:
> Hey!!!....it's doable!!!
> 60 miles from Palm Beach to Bimini....or 69 miles to Freeport, Grand
> Bahama Island. From there you could "Hop" your way down the
> island Chain to Providence (Nassau) Island and even further on down
> South...all the way down to Grand Turk Islands.
>
> Would you trust your engine for 60-70 miles? Only 1 hour or
> so... depending on the wind. Hmmmm...Only problem is...if it
> quits...you're in the ditch.
>
> Scarey, huh???...but think of the possibilities!
>
> I can already smell that Jerk chicken on the grill...and Bob Marley on
> the juke box!
>
> Dave...(Hey 'Mon...you flew over in THAT)???...Down in Florida.
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | 8.00 x 4 Goodyear tires on eBay |
Came up today on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270021231
0
33&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:MT:1
Jack Textor
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!! |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "D.Reid" <dreidjax@alltel.net>
Yep. The Bahama's will accept experimental aircraft.
The "RV" boys do it all the time down here.
Maybe a "hop" down to Key West...you know, just for practice, to start with.
Those islands are only a mile or two apart.
That would be a good goal to aspire to..."Marguritaville in May"!
Guess I better get back to work...I need to run up to Home Depot for my wing
spars.
Dave...(Nibblin' on Spongecake) Down in Florida
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Blackwell" <markb1958@verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!!
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell
> <markb1958@verizon.net>
>
> It would bring into question one other thing though. Is an experimental
> US airworthiness certificate valid outside the US? The answer may depend
> on where outside the US. I know you most likely need a rider on your
> insurance policy to make that happen. I almost did that trip once and now
> regret not getting the chance.
>
> D.Reid wrote:
>> Hey!!!....it's doable!!!
>> 60 miles from Palm Beach to Bimini....or 69 miles to Freeport, Grand
>> Bahama Island. From there you could "Hop" your way down the island Chain
>> to Providence (Nassau) Island and even further on down South...all the
>> way down to Grand Turk Islands.
>> Would you trust your engine for 60-70 miles? Only 1 hour or so...
>> depending on the wind. Hmmmm...Only problem is...if it quits...you're in
>> the ditch.
>> Scarey, huh???...but think of the possibilities!
>> I can already smell that Jerk chicken on the grill...and Bob Marley on
>> the juke box!
>> Dave...(Hey 'Mon...you flew over in THAT)???...Down in Florida.
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>
>
>
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--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Hans Vander Voort <hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com>
Dick,
Just got the news a few minutes ago, see below message from Doc for those
who did not.
Hans,
----- Forwarded by Hans Vander Voort/GP/US/ALFALAVAL on 08/22/2006 10:11 AM
-----
BPAN
<bpan@tds.net>
To
08/21/2006 02:27 Hans Vander Voorst
PM <hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com>
cc
Subject
Brodhead Pietenpol Association
Newsletter
Hans -
With the October issue of the Brodhead Pietenpol Association newsletter, I
will be the new editor. My wife Dee and I have arranged with the Brodhead
Independent-Register to make sure that the present subscribers will
continue to receive their paid up subscriptions. The BPANews will continue
to be printed and mailed from the Brodhead Independent-Register, who will
also handle the subscriber list. Subscription rate remains at $16 a year
(4 issues per year). Checks should be made out to "Brodhead Pietenpol
Association" or "BPA" and mailed to:
Brodhead Pietenopol Association
c/o Independent-Register
P. O. Box 255
Brodhead WI 53520-0255
The business and editorial office for BPA is now located in Oshkosh. All
questions, articles, letters, drawings, and classified ads should go to:
Brodhead Pietenpol Association
P. O. Box 3501
Oshkosh WI 54901
BPA@tds.net
FAX (920) 886-3575
So, send all money to Brodhead. For all else, get in touch with us in
Oshkosh.
A staff of regular contributing writers is being assembled to provide
quality articles and photos. At the same time, BPANews welcomes subscriber
submissions. There is a wealth of talent to be shared among the Piet
group.
We look forward to having BPANews be a vital touchstone in continuing the
long history of the friendly community that is Pietenpol people. We
appreciate what the good folks at Brodhead (EAA Chapter 421 and others)
have done to make their airport hallowed ground and will be cooperating
with them in every way.
Doc Mosher
--
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| Subject: | Re: Island hopping |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "bike.mike" <bike.mike@charter.net>
[snip]
>
> I say if you have the coconuts to fly 60-70 miles over shark infested
> waters in a Piet then go for it.....but the nice farmlands of
> the midwest have my heart wrapped up. Would be very cool to make a
> trip
> to those islands once......with sedation....and then
> talk about it over beer for the next 20 years tho !
>
> Mike C.
>
Those long, over-farmland, jaunts scare me; those farmers have guns and
don't take kindly to some bozo in a homemade faux antique ripping wheel
tracks through their expensive sorghum fields or drying up the dairy cows
with a low flying "ta-pocketa, ta-pocketa".
Sharks, on the other hand, enjoy feeling those vibrations of upcoming lunch
rippling the water.
BTW, US-registered home-builts have been legally flying outside the US since
there was such a registration.
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| Subject: | Re: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!! |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
Dave,
If you made your crossing in ground effect you could tow a fish line and
maybe snag a marlin (or shark).
Gene
In hot (better today) Tennessee
----- Original Message -----
From: "D.Reid" <dreidjax@alltel.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!!
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "D.Reid" <dreidjax@alltel.net>
>
> Yep. The Bahama's will accept experimental aircraft.
> The "RV" boys do it all the time down here.
>
> Maybe a "hop" down to Key West...you know, just for practice, to start
> with. Those islands are only a mile or two apart.
>
> That would be a good goal to aspire to..."Marguritaville in May"!
>
> Guess I better get back to work...I need to run up to Home Depot for my
> wing spars.
>
> Dave...(Nibblin' on Spongecake) Down in Florida
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Blackwell" <markb1958@verizon.net>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 10:23 AM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!!
>
>
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell
>> <markb1958@verizon.net>
>>
>> It would bring into question one other thing though. Is an experimental
>> US airworthiness certificate valid outside the US? The answer may depend
>> on where outside the US. I know you most likely need a rider on your
>> insurance policy to make that happen. I almost did that trip once and
>> now regret not getting the chance.
>>
>> D.Reid wrote:
>>> Hey!!!....it's doable!!!
>>> 60 miles from Palm Beach to Bimini....or 69 miles to Freeport, Grand
>>> Bahama Island. From there you could "Hop" your way down the island Chain
>>> to Providence (Nassau) Island and even further on down South...all the
>>> way down to Grand Turk Islands.
>>> Would you trust your engine for 60-70 miles? Only 1 hour or so...
>>> depending on the wind. Hmmmm...Only problem is...if it quits...you're in
>>> the ditch.
>>> Scarey, huh???...but think of the possibilities!
>>> I can already smell that Jerk chicken on the grill...and Bob Marley on
>>> the juke box!
>>> Dave...(Hey 'Mon...you flew over in THAT)???...Down in Florida.
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>> *
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!! |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "D.Reid" <dreidjax@alltel.net>
There ya go! Maybe put a new "Twist" to Hemmingway's Old Man and the
Sea"...as long as I dont wind up being the Old man IN the sea!
I know....I know...everyone must think I'm crazy...but look at it this way.
With today's technology, Radio, transponders, GPS and radar...it's not as
"Far fetched" an idea as it once was!
Why if something happened...the Peit would float for a long time. I would be
in the raft in nothing flat and I'll bet my feet wouldnt even get wet before
a Coast Guard Helo would be hoisting me aboard! But then...I'd probably be
spending the rest of my life paying off the rescue bill. I dont think they
save your life for free anymore.
Dave (contemplating) Down in Florida
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!!
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy"
> <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
>
> Dave,
> If you made your crossing in ground effect you could tow a fish line and
> maybe snag a marlin (or shark).
> Gene
> In hot (better today) Tennessee
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "D.Reid" <dreidjax@alltel.net>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:53 AM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!!
>
>
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "D.Reid" <dreidjax@alltel.net>
>>
>> Yep. The Bahama's will accept experimental aircraft.
>> The "RV" boys do it all the time down here.
>>
>> Maybe a "hop" down to Key West...you know, just for practice, to start
>> with. Those islands are only a mile or two apart.
>>
>> That would be a good goal to aspire to..."Marguritaville in May"!
>>
>> Guess I better get back to work...I need to run up to Home Depot for my
>> wing spars.
>>
>> Dave...(Nibblin' on Spongecake) Down in Florida
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mark Blackwell" <markb1958@verizon.net>
>> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 10:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet
>> Style!!!
>>
>>
>>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell
>>> <markb1958@verizon.net>
>>>
>>> It would bring into question one other thing though. Is an experimental
>>> US airworthiness certificate valid outside the US? The answer may
>>> depend on where outside the US. I know you most likely need a rider on
>>> your insurance policy to make that happen. I almost did that trip once
>>> and now regret not getting the chance.
>>>
>>> D.Reid wrote:
>>>> Hey!!!....it's doable!!!
>>>> 60 miles from Palm Beach to Bimini....or 69 miles to Freeport, Grand
>>>> Bahama Island. From there you could "Hop" your way down the island
>>>> Chain to Providence (Nassau) Island and even further on down
>>>> South...all the way down to Grand Turk Islands.
>>>> Would you trust your engine for 60-70 miles? Only 1 hour or so...
>>>> depending on the wind. Hmmmm...Only problem is...if it quits...you're
>>>> in the ditch.
>>>> Scarey, huh???...but think of the possibilities!
>>>> I can already smell that Jerk chicken on the grill...and Bob Marley on
>>>> the juke box!
>>>> Dave...(Hey 'Mon...you flew over in THAT)???...Down in Florida.
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | photo of an Ultra Piet in water-- attached |
Guys-- I hope you enjoy this photo. I saved it after reading the caption
about the guy flying it low over a river/lake and just touched
the wheels by accident and it flipped over near shore. He was able to get
out, stand up in near the shore and said the camera that he
took this photo with didn't even get wet.
Happy sailing !
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Model A Travails |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Larry Nelson <lnelson208@yahoo.com>
I had to replace the 5:1 cast iron head Howard
Henderson put on my plane with a 5.5:1 from Snyders.
It is actually a Model B head. This old gal might be
close to needing a valve job as I have some leakage
past the exhaust valves. This engine has about 130
hours on it since Grant MaClaren built it. The head I
removed had a crack in #3, and I was getting
"compression" introduced into the cooling system, and
then out the overflow tube and ending up on my
googles.
I wonder what other Model A flyers do about oil
pressure guages. The one on N444MH is electic, and
small, but with a large analog scale, like up to 60#.
Because the Model is not really a closed, pressurized
system, the original guages are only 10#. The guage on
my plane barely shows movement off the peg.
Anyway, flew her for an hour Saturday over
Springfield, MO and she ran great, although her
sputtering on takeoff (past the point of no return, I
might add) DOES give me pause. Once up and warm, she
ran great.
Do any of you Model A flyers concern yourself with all
those fumes travelling past in the slipstream?
Also, One last question, I seem to be unable to
"reply" to any messages on this or the Busnuts forum I
participate in on Yahoo? Clicking on the "reply"
button gets me nowhere. Any ideas?
Larry Nelson
Springfield, MO
Beechcraft Bonanza V-35B N2980A
Cessna 195 N9883A
Pietenpol Air Camper N444MH
1963 GMC 4106-1618
SV/ Spirit of America
ARS WB0JOT
__________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!! |
This is a dream I've had for a while - Piet over to the Bahamas, then down
thru the island chains of the Greater and Lesser Antiles all the way down to
Venezuala, then up thru Central America. Not sure how the southern islands
take to experimental aircraft, but the Bahamas and the Caymans are OK with it,
as well as pretty much most of Central America. Altho third world customs
are an art form all to themselves.
I have taken a Glastar down Baja - defn gets your attention over water - esp
where no one knows or cares where you are.
As a long time parrothead I wish I could come up with a better quote aside
from 'changes in latitudes, changes in attitudes."
Cheers
Jon A.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: photo of an Ultra Piet in water-- attached |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "D.Reid" <dreidjax@alltel.net>
Ohhhhhhhh...Noooooooo. He should have been more careful of where he was
stepping when he walked to shore! I see he put his foot right through the
wing!
Some people just dont think!
Dave (Hoping this isn't an Omen)... Down in Florida. (hmmmm..."Down in
Florida" isnt sounding too good anymore either. But, I guess it's better
than being Down OFF Florida)!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D Cuy" <Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 2:07 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: photo of an Ultra Piet in water-- attached
> Guys-- I hope you enjoy this photo. I saved it after reading the caption
> about the guy flying it low over a river/lake and just touched
> the wheels by accident and it flipped over near shore. He was able to get
> out, stand up in near the shore and said the camera that he
> took this photo with didn't even get wet.
>
> Happy sailing !
>
> Mike C.
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!! |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "bike.mike" <bike.mike@charter.net>
Contemplative Dave, et al:
As Mike Cuy's photo points out, there are, in all seriousness, a few other
things to think about in long over-water flight besides sharks and a radio.
Your biggest fear, by far, is drowning.
Ditching a light fixed-gear airplane like a Piet can often result in a
noseover in the water, putting pilot and passenger UNDER the fuselage,
upside down. This can especially happen in rough water when the gear is
grabbed by a wave while the plane is still at flying speed. The situation
is perfectly survivable, but you have to be in a mindset that prepares you
for getting out from underneath it while you still have breath.
The Navy requires every over-water aircrew member to pass through the
"Dilbert Dunker" that simulates a nose-over inversion under water. The
biggest problem with the Dunker is disorientation when its victims are
running on adrenaline. Some guys get out of the cockpit fine then swim down
to the bottom of the very deep pool, having to be pulled out by the safety
divers.
A Piet floats like a foam cup initially, but isn't designed to survive ocean
conditions. After your passenger has punched the wing fabric full of holes
flailing out of the front seat, you're going to get wet trying to get your
survival gear out of the cockpit.
Mike Hardaway
----- Original Message -----
From: "D.Reid" <dreidjax@alltel.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Island Hopping in the Bahamas...Piet Style!!!
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "D.Reid" <dreidjax@alltel.net>
>
> There ya go! Maybe put a new "Twist" to Hemmingway's Old Man and the
> Sea"...as long as I dont wind up being the Old man IN the sea!
>
> I know....I know...everyone must think I'm crazy...but look at it this
> way. With today's technology, Radio, transponders, GPS and radar...it's
> not as "Far fetched" an idea as it once was!
>
> Why if something happened...the Peit would float for a long time. I would
> be in the raft in nothing flat and I'll bet my feet wouldnt even get wet
> before a Coast Guard Helo would be hoisting me aboard! But then...I'd
> probably be spending the rest of my life paying off the rescue bill. I
> dont think they save your life for free anymore.
>
> Dave (contemplating) Down in Florida
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: photo of an Ultra Piet in water-- attached |
Hey Mike,
I am still alive here in Yucaipa. You should include the link to the
story that fits the picture. I came across it a few years back when I
was trying to decide to build a ultra-light, or a full size Piet.
Doug/Elizabeth Blackburn
Yucaipa California
ISR Rocks www.inlandsloperebels.com<http://www.inlandsloperebels.com/>
W.W. conversion manual, #3202,#5782
www.flycorvair.com<http://www.flycorvair.com/>
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael D Cuy<mailto:Michael.D.Cuy@grc.nasa.gov>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 11:07 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: photo of an Ultra Piet in water-- attached
Guys-- I hope you enjoy this photo. I saved it after reading the
caption
about the guy flying it low over a river/lake and just touched
the wheels by accident and it flipped over near shore. He was able to
get
out, stand up in near the shore and said the camera that he
took this photo with didn't even get wet.
Happy sailing !
Mike C.
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| Subject: | 8.00 x 4 Goodyear tires on eBay |
Thanks Jack,
I am in the hunt.
Have been checking ebay daily, but had not seen these until you wrote in.
Skip
Came up today on eBay
Jack Textor
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| Subject: | Parallel struts and Gene's question |
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Gene,
I think BHP's idea for the landing gear/strut attach point isn't so much about
whether or not the struts are parallel but about where to attach the back of the
front seat. A quick look inside the cockpit of different Piets will tell you
if the builder left everything as located on the plans or if he moved the ash
piece back. If the ash piece is moved back to the center of the cluster the
plywood back of the front seat will come down and sit on top of the ash piece.
If the ash piece is left 'as is' in the plans the seat back will glue to the
back side of it. I went so far as to bevel that back edge to get a good glue
joint. With this setup the seat back is now attached to the top cross member,
the front edges of the fuselage side uprights and the back edge of the ash cross
piece. (got all that!?) All very good joints. I feel this is important because
the seat back is a stuctural member offering cross sectional strength as
well as floor stiffness.
We all know there are some areas of the plans that are left to the imagination,
but when you think about a 16/17 year old Orrin Hoopman taking measurements and
drawing the parts and pieces, after Mr. Pietenpol made them, so that others
could understand them, it's really amazing they are as complete and as accurate
as they are! If you question anything on the plans and are thinking about
changing it, make sure you really consider why he did it that way. Just about
every time you'll figure out and realize he was an exceptional 'eyeball engineer'!
Don E.
NX899DE
Down with a sick magneto, hope to be flying again by the weekend!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=56518#56518
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| Subject: | J3 lift struts on ebay |
The same guy who is selling the tires is also selling a bunch of cub lift struts.
May be possible to convert to Piet struts.
Item number 270021289981
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