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Wed 08/30/06


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     1. 03:57 AM - Re: Re: Parallel struts and Gene's question ()
     2. 06:16 AM - Re: Elect tach (Dick Navratil)
     3. 06:59 AM - gap seals (Andimaxd@aol.com)
     4. 10:19 AM - Re: Re: 800 4 tires (Barry Davis)
     5. 10:40 AM - Re: Re: 800 4 tires (Skip-Cinda Gadd)
     6. 12:20 PM - Gene's question (walt evans)
     7. 01:01 PM - Re: Re: 800 4 tires (Barry Davis)
     8. 02:13 PM - Information on tires (KMHeide)
     9. 02:33 PM - Re: Elect tach (Rcaprd@aol.com)
    10. 03:12 PM - Re: Elect tach (Steve Eldredge)
    11. 03:21 PM - Re: gap seals (Rcaprd@aol.com)
    12. 03:24 PM - Re: Elect tach (Rcaprd@aol.com)
    13. 05:15 PM - Re: Re: Parallel struts and Gene's question (Michael Conkling)
    14. 07:46 PM - Re: Information on tires (Skip-Cinda Gadd)
    15. 07:53 PM - Re: Re: Parallel struts and Gene's question (Skip-Cinda Gadd)
    16. 11:03 PM - Re: Elect tach (Clif Dawson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:57:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Parallel struts and Gene's question
    From: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: <harvey.rule@bell.ca> The really great thing about the Piet is that it is like humans;they all look somewhat the same but different,not all the same ,if you know what I mean.In all the pics I've seen and all the Piets I've seen,I've never seen two exactly alike.Great plane! -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Emch Sent: August 29, 2006 9:28 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Parallel struts and Gene's question --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com> I know this has been said many times before, but...if you try to follow the plans as closely as you can, you really will build a good airplane. Mine is to the plans with the exception of the A-65, nose tank, moving the wheels forward 1" (geometry in the gear only) and the wing back 4". If I were to build another, (the thought has crossed my mind) I think the only changes I would make would be to try to build one with a Model A straight off of the plans. I would never try to force my opinion on someone else, it is just that I really like the airplane and how it flies. Sorry...I know it's been said many times. Don E. NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=58357#58357


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    Time: 06:16:51 AM PST US
    From: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: Elect tach
    Chuck What is the issue with 90 deg angle drives? Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rcaprd@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 8:17 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Elect tach In a message dated 8/29/2006 9:05:40 AM Central Standard Time, lshutks@webtv.net writes: It has a small generator that mounts on the tach drive pad. It is self contained and doesn't depend on a mag or spark plug for power. I like this method Much better than something that robs power from the mags...however, I still preferr the old tach cable / driven tachs - just don't use any 90=BA angle drives...keep the cable straight, and very little bends, to the tach. Chuck G.


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    Time: 06:59:33 AM PST US
    From: Andimaxd@aol.com
    Subject: gap seals
    I used the plans barn door hinges, and sealed the aileron gaps with a strip of 3" fabric tape, centering it over the gap, before painting. Chuck Good morning one and all, I'm going to seal the gaps, the tail is in the silver stage and we are getting ready to mount the tail permanently to the fuse and install our gap seals. I read through most of the archives on the subject. Do I need to pre-shrink the 3" fabric strip before I use the method that Chuck used. We did not put little triangle strips to fair in the gaps closer. It seems like the sun would shrink the fabric 10% over time. As usual, all advice and dumb looks are welcome, thanks in advance. Wanna-be low and slow flyer, Max Davis NX101XW (Reserved)


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    Time: 10:19:00 AM PST US
    From: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: 800 4 tires
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com> I did a Google on 800 x 4 tires. Dresser has cub tires for $290 ea Barry Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skip-Cinda Gadd" <csfog@earthlink.net> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 12:06 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: 800 4 tires > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Skip-Cinda Gadd" > <csfog@earthlink.net> > > Thanks Don, > I have been looking in Trade-a-Plane and will start checking ebay. I agree > the best thing would be to put 6 inch wheels on the thing, but that would > be a project and I bought the thing so I could fly not build. I will not > fly it with unsafe tires so am still looking. > My tires may be servicable, but one has a crack so deep you can see air > ;<) > Skip > > >> [ >> Skip, >> Although they aren't real easy to find I'm pretty sure I recently saw a > dealer in Trade-a-Plane that had them at a much better price. Can't > remember who though. I'd keep an eye on ebay too. I've seen serviceable > ones go on there at a decent price. Heck at that price you might be able > to find some 800-6 tires and wheels, maybe even 850-6! >> Don E. > > >


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    Time: 10:40:00 AM PST US
    From: "Skip-Cinda Gadd" <csfog@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: 800 4 tires
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Skip-Cinda Gadd" <csfog@earthlink.net> Thanks Barry, I was following a set on ebay which sold Monday for $266. That was more than I wanted to spend for old tires I couldn't see in person first. I ordered a set from Desser yesterday paid $194. each. I will check my tubes when I change the tires and if not servicable will order them, they cost $129. each. I think the $290 cub tires are bald, Desser having scrubbed the ribs off. Skip > > I did a Google on 800 x 4 tires. Dresser has cub tires for $290 ea > Barry Davis


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    Time: 12:20:19 PM PST US
    From: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
    Subject: Gene's question
    Gene, Finally got to the airport. Bole centerline to centerline. fuse 27 7/8 wing 29 walt evans NX140DL "Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you" Ben Franklin


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    Time: 01:01:47 PM PST US
    From: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: 800 4 tires
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Barry Davis" <bed@mindspring.com> that's correct bed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skip-Cinda Gadd" <csfog@earthlink.net> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 1:39 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 800 4 tires > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Skip-Cinda Gadd" > <csfog@earthlink.net> > > Thanks Barry, > I was following a set on ebay which sold Monday for $266. That was more > than I wanted to spend for old tires I couldn't see in person first. > I ordered a set from Desser yesterday paid $194. each. I will check my > tubes when I change the tires and if not servicable will order them, they > cost $129. each. > I think the $290 cub tires are bald, Desser having scrubbed the ribs off. > Skip > > >> >> I did a Google on 800 x 4 tires. Dresser has cub tires for $290 ea >> Barry Davis > > >


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    Time: 02:13:24 PM PST US
    From: KMHeide <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Information on tires
    Can you list the site for the tires from Dresser. Never heard of them nor can I find their site. KM Heide Fargo --------------------------------- Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.


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    Time: 02:33:44 PM PST US
    From: Rcaprd@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Elect tach
    In a message dated 8/30/2006 8:18:45 AM Central Standard Time, horzpool@goldengate.net writes: Chuck What is the issue with 90 deg angle drives? Dick N. More moving parts means there is something else to break. If it ain't there, it can't break !! Chuck G. NX770CG


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    Time: 03:12:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Elect tach
    From: "Steve Eldredge" <steve@byu.edu>
    Does that go for a fixed pitch wooden prop? Stevee ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rcaprd@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:32 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Elect tach In a message dated 8/30/2006 8:18:45 AM Central Standard Time, horzpool@goldengate.net writes: Chuck What is the issue with 90 deg angle drives? Dick N. More moving parts means there is something else to break. If it ain't there, it can't break !! Chuck G. NX770CG


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    Time: 03:21:25 PM PST US
    From: Rcaprd@aol.com
    Subject: Re: gap seals
    In a message dated 8/30/2006 9:02:41 AM Central Standard Time, Andimaxd@aol.com writes: I used the plans barn door hinges, and sealed the aileron gaps with a strip of 3" fabric tape, centering it over the gap, before painting. Chuck Good morning one and all, I'm going to seal the gaps, the tail is in the silver stage and we are getting ready to mount the tail permanently to the fuse and install our gap seals. I read through most of the archives on the subject. Do I need to pre-shrink the 3" fabric strip before I use the method that Chuck used. We did not put little triangle strips to fair in the gaps closer. It seems like the sun would shrink the fabric 10% over time. As usual, all advice and dumb looks are welcome, thanks in advance. Wanna-be low and slow flyer, Max Davis NX101XW (Reserved) Hey Mad Dawg !! Great to hear you are making progress !! I did my ailerons just like you did. For the Empenage, I used Hard Balsa triangle strips, between the Vi Kapler hinges - before covering. These triangles were glued on the Trailing Edge of the Horizontal Stab, and the Leading Edge of the Flippers. Then cover all the surfaces in the conventional manner. Then assemble the control surface hinges (after they have been test fitted, and cleared of all fouling conditions), and then apply the gap seal. This kept the gap at a uniform 1/4", and this is the only place the fabric actually bends. A strip of fabric down one side, across the gap, and up the other side of the triangle. Do this on the Top and the Bottom. Trim the fabric at the top, so none of the fabric actually is in the slipstream. Don't pre- shrink the fabric bridging the gap. Wait till it is installed on the top and bottom, then shrink it with a hot detail iron. The sun will never heat the fabric up enough to shrink it. Kind of hard to describe. I have details of how I did this on my web site : http://nx770cg.com/Unique.html Chuck G. NX770CG


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    Time: 03:24:56 PM PST US
    From: Rcaprd@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Elect tach
    In a message dated 8/30/2006 5:15:02 PM Central Standard Time, steve@byu.edu writes: Does that go for a fixed pitch wooden prop? Stevee In a message dated 8/30/2006 8:18:45 AM Central Standard Time, horzpool@goldengate.net writes: Chuck What is the issue with 90 deg angle drives? Dick N. More moving parts means there is something else to break. If it ain't there, it can't break !! Chuck G. NX770CG That's right, Stevee...If the prop ain't there, you can't break it !! :) Chuck G.


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    Time: 05:15:12 PM PST US
    From: "Michael Conkling" <hpvs@southwind.net>
    Subject: Re: Parallel struts and Gene's question
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Michael Conkling" <hpvs@southwind.net> Does this mean that if your struts are parallel, you must be flying a GN-1?? ;-) Mike C. Pretty Prairie, KS


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    Time: 07:46:09 PM PST US
    From: "Skip-Cinda Gadd" <csfog@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Information on tires
    Hi KM, Google desser tire. They always have a big add in Trade-a-Plane. Skip ----- Original Message ----- Can you list the site for the tires from Dresser. Never heard of them nor can I find their site. KM Heide Fargo


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    Time: 07:53:18 PM PST US
    From: "Skip-Cinda Gadd" <csfog@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Parallel struts and Gene's question
    --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Skip-Cinda Gadd" <csfog@earthlink.net> Hi Mike, No, lift struts on my GN-1 are not parallel, they measure 31" at the wing end and 31 1/2" at the fuse or lower end. Skip > > Does this mean that if your struts are parallel, you must be flying a GN-1?? > ;-) > Mike C. > Pretty Prairie, KS >


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    Time: 11:03:36 PM PST US
    From: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Elect tach
    How often do they break? Looking at my beast I don't see how to get away without at least one. Also the tighter any bends are in the cable to avoid the use of a ninety the greater the chance of a fatigue break. I've had this problem with my expensive Foredom tool. Running it with a tight bend heats up the cable quite warm. Having had to replace the cable because of this I now go out of my way to keep any bends wide. Clif Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Elect tach Chuck What is the issue with 90 deg angle drives? Dick N. More moving parts means there is something else to break. If it ain't there, it can't break !! Chuck G. NX770CG




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