---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/06/06: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:35 AM - Re: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need (Phillips, Jack) 2. 05:08 AM - Re: Spruce and Model A engines (Pietsrneat@aol.com) 3. 05:24 AM - Re: Spruce and Model A engines (Gene Rambo) 4. 05:57 AM - Re: Corvair cowlings (Gene Beenenga) 5. 07:03 AM - Re: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need (shad bell) 6. 08:31 AM - Re: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need (Mark Blackwell) 7. 10:35 AM - Re: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need (Gene & Tammy) 8. 10:45 AM - Re: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need () 9. 11:46 AM - Re: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need (Mark Blackwell) 10. 12:21 PM - Re: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need (greg menoche) 11. 02:02 PM - Engie choices (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)) 12. 03:35 PM - Re: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need (Gene & Tammy) 13. 04:41 PM - Cowling information: Sizes and Cost (KMHeide) 14. 05:20 PM - Re: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need (Amsafetyc@aol.com) 15. 05:58 PM - Want to Build a Corvair Piet? (Jim Markle) 16. 06:19 PM - Re: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need (Mark Blackwell) 17. 08:00 PM - Touching bases... (Graham Hansen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:35:36 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need From: "Phillips, Jack" John don't let medical problems stop your dreams. The Pietenpol qualifies as a light sport aircraft. If you have not been denied a medical and have a valid driver's license, you can fly it. Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John E. Joyce Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 9:03 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need Hi Pieters: Problems getting a medical certificate force me to give up my Piet project. I never cut any wood but did accumulate a large library of manuals and books from the EAA, the old CAA, General Motors/Corvair, etc. I have 17 titles, too many to list. Included are all of the Bingelis books from the EAA. I have Corvair related titles including William Winn's Conversion Manual. I also have both the Pietenpol and the Grega version plans. I don't know if it's possible but I'd like to sell the whole package to one person. If you have been lurking out in the weeds now is the time to start. I'm located just north of Boston. If you are in this area, come on by and take a look! Rather than clutter up the Matronics server with a long list (3 pages) and create unnecessary traffic, I'd be happy to provide anyone with a list. Shoot me an email at jayejay@comcast.net . Regards, John Joyce _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it i n error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:08:33 AM PST US From: Pietsrneat@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Spruce and Model A engines In a message dated 10/5/2006 11:24:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Amsafetyc@aol.com writes: Ron, No problem, I am in lancaster pa if your intests change. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Now see, that changes things a bit. I am near Williamsport, PA...very close. It wouldn't be that hard for me to come get them. Are the blocks rebuildable? Are there any other parts, like heads, carburetors, etc.? Ron ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:50 AM PST US From: "Gene Rambo" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Spruce and Model A engines Ron, you need to go to Hershey today. I was there yesterday at the car show and there must be at least one million (no exaggeration) model A engines and all of the parts you could ever want. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Pietsrneat@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:07 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Spruce and Model A engines In a message dated 10/5/2006 11:24:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Amsafetyc@aol.com writes: Ron, No problem, I am in lancaster pa if your intests change. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Now see, that changes things a bit. I am near Williamsport, PA...very close. It wouldn't be that hard for me to come get them. Are the blocks rebuildable? Are there any other parts, like heads, carburetors, etc.? Ron http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:46 AM PST US From: Gene Beenenga Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvair cowlings --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gene Beenenga Ken, please put me on your list for a set of cowlings for the GN-1, Gene -----Original Message----- >From: KMHeide >Sent: Oct 2, 2006 5:28 PM >To: Pietenpol >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair cowlings > >Members of the List: > > If you are building a Pietenpol with a Corvair engine and are needing a cowling please contact me. I have (with the assistance of Dan in the Twin Cities) re-created the original nose bowl and cowling of the last original Pietenpol. It is professionally made using a very tough fiberglass. Nice gel coat covering and ready for you to final trim and fit to your liking.It is a two piece set-up. If you are interested please contact me so I can complete a run.Very cost effective and saves us all time in building. > > Ken Heide > Fargo, ND > > > >--------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:01 AM PST US From: shad bell Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need Don't give up! I had problems getting my medical in 1996 when i started flying at age 18. I am now 28 and just started flying my father's piet this past spring. It took me about a year to get my medical streightened out but now that I have it it is a lot eaiser to "renew". If I ever suspect I would not pass a 3rd class I will just let it expire and go sport pilot. It is all up to you, but if you really want to keep flying, and build a piet go for it. By the time you get the piet done your 3rd class medical should be strieghtened out. If you did not get "denied" or get a failed physical letter from the FAA you are still leagle to fly sport pilot with no other action required. If you just suspect you will not pass then do NOT go take another faa physical. Just my 2 cents worth, good luck. Shad --------------------------------- Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:31:03 AM PST US From: Mark Blackwell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell Sad thing is Light Sport might be ending more flying careers than its starting. If you think you MIGHT have a problem the smart thing is to not try, but in reality you very well may have no problem at all getting a medical. Yet rather than take a chance they don't try with good reason. shad bell wrote: > *Don't give up! I had problems getting my medical in 1996 when i > started flying at age 18. I am now 28 and just started flying my > father's piet this past spring. It took me about a year to get my > medical streightened out but now that I have it it is a lot eaiser to > "renew". If I ever suspect I would not pass a 3rd class I will just > let it expire and go sport pilot. It is all up to you, but if you > really want to keep flying, and build a piet go for it. By the time > you get the piet done your 3rd class medical should be strieghtened > out. If you did not get "denied" or get a failed physical letter from > the FAA you are still leagle to fly sport pilot with no other action > required. If you just suspect you will not pass then do NOT go take > another faa physical. * > ** > *Just my 2 cents worth, good luck.* > *Shad* > > Get on board. You're invited > > to try the new Yahoo! Mail. > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:35:20 AM PST US From: "Gene & Tammy" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" I don't understand how Light Sport can be ending flying careers? If you go to your own doctor BEFORE you go to the FAA Medical examiner you will know whether you can pass your flight phyical or not. Why take a chance.? Just my two cents worth Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Blackwell" Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:30 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell > > > Sad thing is Light Sport might be ending more flying careers than its > starting. If you think you MIGHT have a problem the smart thing is to not > try, but in reality you very well may have no problem at all getting a > medical. Yet rather than take a chance they don't try with good reason. > > shad bell wrote: >> *Don't give up! I had problems getting my medical in 1996 when i started >> flying at age 18. I am now 28 and just started flying my father's piet >> this past spring. It took me about a year to get my medical streightened >> out but now that I have it it is a lot eaiser to "renew". If I ever >> suspect I would not pass a 3rd class I will just let it expire and go >> sport pilot. It is all up to you, but if you really want to keep flying, >> and build a piet go for it. By the time you get the piet done your 3rd >> class medical should be strieghtened out. If you did not get "denied" or >> get a failed physical letter from the FAA you are still leagle to fly >> sport pilot with no other action required. If you just suspect you will >> not pass then do NOT go take another faa physical. * >> ** *Just my 2 cents worth, good luck.* >> *Shad* >> >> Get on board. You're invited >> >> to try the new Yahoo! Mail. >> >> * >> >> >> * > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:45:56 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need From: --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Come to cold Canada where you can be a pilot of your craft for only declaring your fitness and welfare and fly to your hearts content.As an ultralight pilot, which by the way my plane ,a Pietenpol ,has been registered as C-IOVC,enjoy! -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene & Tammy Sent: October 6, 2006 1:33 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" I don't understand how Light Sport can be ending flying careers? If you go to your own doctor BEFORE you go to the FAA Medical examiner you will know whether you can pass your flight phyical or not. Why take a chance.? Just my two cents worth Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Blackwell" Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:30 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell > > > Sad thing is Light Sport might be ending more flying careers than its > starting. If you think you MIGHT have a problem the smart thing is to not > try, but in reality you very well may have no problem at all getting a > medical. Yet rather than take a chance they don't try with good reason. > > shad bell wrote: >> *Don't give up! I had problems getting my medical in 1996 when i started >> flying at age 18. I am now 28 and just started flying my father's piet >> this past spring. It took me about a year to get my medical streightened >> out but now that I have it it is a lot eaiser to "renew". If I ever >> suspect I would not pass a 3rd class I will just let it expire and go >> sport pilot. It is all up to you, but if you really want to keep flying, >> and build a piet go for it. By the time you get the piet done your 3rd >> class medical should be strieghtened out. If you did not get "denied" or >> get a failed physical letter from the FAA you are still leagle to fly >> sport pilot with no other action required. If you just suspect you will >> not pass then do NOT go take another faa physical. * >> ** *Just my 2 cents worth, good luck.* >> *Shad* >> >> Get on board. You're invited >> >> to try the new Yahoo! Mail. >> >> * >> >> >> * > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:46:03 AM PST US From: Mark Blackwell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell Most people at some point develop medical issues that come with life. Some are not hard for the FAA to deal with, but many can be very unpredictable in the response you get from the FAA. Your family doctor or your own doctor won't have a clue about the FAA paperwork. They don't know what's allowed and what isn't. What forced me out of the air was some eye surgery that left me with a partial vision loss in one eye. Im legal to drive without glasses. Everyone else tells me Im healthy. They FAA says you either have 2 eyes with normal vision or only one eye. To get certified with one eye means a great deal of paperwork, and a medical flight test. The medical flight test alone would likely cost more than I can afford. That does not count the tests that would be needed which may or may not be covered with insurance. That is assuming that they do not consider the risk of a reoccurance to be so high as to deny me then I am totally out of luck. Yes there is some guidelines, but each case can be at the mercy of the person looking at it. Blood pressure, heart conditions ect are other areas where its just not that cut and dried. I might be willing to try it IF light sport didn't exist. Try renting a LSA? Around here its nearly impossible and if you do find one its condition is likely to be suspect. It left me looking at building, which Id really rather not do either but likely I have little choice if I continue to fly at all. Right now Im not flying till I get relocated and see what is in the new location. Gene & Tammy wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" > > > I don't understand how Light Sport can be ending flying careers? If > you go to your own doctor BEFORE you go to the FAA Medical examiner > you will know whether you can pass your flight phyical or not. Why > take a chance.? > Just my two cents worth > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Blackwell" > > To: > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:30 AM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got > All the Books/Manuals You'll Need > > >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell >> >> >> Sad thing is Light Sport might be ending more flying careers than its >> starting. If you think you MIGHT have a problem the smart thing is >> to not try, but in reality you very well may have no problem at all >> getting a medical. Yet rather than take a chance they don't try with >> good reason. >> >> shad bell wrote: >>> *Don't give up! I had problems getting my medical in 1996 when i >>> started flying at age 18. I am now 28 and just started flying my >>> father's piet this past spring. It took me about a year to get my >>> medical streightened out but now that I have it it is a lot eaiser >>> to "renew". If I ever suspect I would not pass a 3rd class I will >>> just let it expire and go sport pilot. It is all up to you, but if >>> you really want to keep flying, and build a piet go for it. By the >>> time you get the piet done your 3rd class medical should be >>> strieghtened out. If you did not get "denied" or get a failed >>> physical letter from the FAA you are still leagle to fly sport pilot >>> with no other action required. If you just suspect you will not >>> pass then do NOT go take another faa physical. * >>> ** *Just my 2 cents worth, good luck.* >>> *Shad* >>> >>> Get on board. You're invited >>> >>> to try the new Yahoo! Mail. >>> >>> * >>> >>> >>> * >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:21:08 PM PST US From: greg menoche Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: greg menoche Hello, I'm looking for Jim Markle in TX. Please get ahold of me at 302 462 5251 or gnwac@earthlink.net We had chatted and met at BH 2004 or 05. Thanks, Greg Menoche -----Original Message----- >From: Mark Blackwell >Sent: Oct 6, 2006 1:45 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell > >Most people at some point develop medical issues that come with life. >Some are not hard for the FAA to deal with, but many can be very >unpredictable in the response you get from the FAA. Your family doctor >or your own doctor won't have a clue about the FAA paperwork. They >don't know what's allowed and what isn't. What forced me out of the air >was some eye surgery that left me with a partial vision loss in one >eye. Im legal to drive without glasses. Everyone else tells me Im >healthy. They FAA says you either have 2 eyes with normal vision or >only one eye. To get certified with one eye means a great deal of >paperwork, and a medical flight test. The medical flight test alone >would likely cost more than I can afford. That does not count the tests >that would be needed which may or may not be covered with insurance. >That is assuming that they do not consider the risk of a reoccurance to >be so high as to deny me then I am totally out of luck. Yes there is >some guidelines, but each case can be at the mercy of the person looking >at it. Blood pressure, heart conditions ect are other areas where its >just not that cut and dried. > >I might be willing to try it IF light sport didn't exist. Try renting a >LSA? Around here its nearly impossible and if you do find one its >condition is likely to be suspect. It left me looking at building, >which Id really rather not do either but likely I have little choice if >I continue to fly at all. Right now Im not flying till I get >relocated and see what is in the new location. > >Gene & Tammy wrote: >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" >> >> >> I don't understand how Light Sport can be ending flying careers? If >> you go to your own doctor BEFORE you go to the FAA Medical examiner >> you will know whether you can pass your flight phyical or not. Why >> take a chance.? >> Just my two cents worth >> Gene >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Blackwell" >> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:30 AM >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got >> All the Books/Manuals You'll Need >> >> >>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell >>> >>> >>> Sad thing is Light Sport might be ending more flying careers than its >>> starting. If you think you MIGHT have a problem the smart thing is >>> to not try, but in reality you very well may have no problem at all >>> getting a medical. Yet rather than take a chance they don't try with >>> good reason. >>> >>> shad bell wrote: >>>> *Don't give up! I had problems getting my medical in 1996 when i >>>> started flying at age 18. I am now 28 and just started flying my >>>> father's piet this past spring. It took me about a year to get my >>>> medical streightened out but now that I have it it is a lot eaiser >>>> to "renew". If I ever suspect I would not pass a 3rd class I will >>>> just let it expire and go sport pilot. It is all up to you, but if >>>> you really want to keep flying, and build a piet go for it. By the >>>> time you get the piet done your 3rd class medical should be >>>> strieghtened out. If you did not get "denied" or get a failed >>>> physical letter from the FAA you are still leagle to fly sport pilot >>>> with no other action required. If you just suspect you will not >>>> pass then do NOT go take another faa physical. * >>>> ** *Just my 2 cents worth, good luck.* >>>> *Shad* >>>> >>>> Get on board. You're invited >>>> >>>> to try the new Yahoo! Mail. >>>> >>>> * >>>> >>>> >>>> * >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:02:49 PM PST US From: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engie choices --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) Several years ago in the Buckeye newsletter there was a Piet called Poplar Piet. It had a 2.5 Chv 4 banger. I think it is an engine used in S-10 pickups. The big thing about the airplane and this article was that the bulder found a Poplar tree, cut it down, sawed it up , milled it and built the airplae from it. I could have cared less about that. I wanted to know everything tere was to know about the engine conversion, but nothing was ever said about (the most important part ) that. It flew a lot, even by a guy who was on the list for a while, but did't know much about the engine. The airplane was later crashed with a fatility. they suspect the passenger somehow ran a fowl of the thtottle linkage just after take off. I would have loved to known more about that conversion. Leo S. Ks. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:35:00 PM PST US From: "Gene & Tammy" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" Mark, Lots of good points. Guess I'm lucker than most as my Dr. is also a pilot and seems to have a good handle on what the FAA will and will not. If you don't want to build then why not buy one already built? Lots of really good ones out there for less than you can build one for. Just a thought. Gene N502R----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Blackwell" Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:45 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell > > > Most people at some point develop medical issues that come with life. > Some are not hard for the FAA to deal with, but many can be very > unpredictable in the response you get from the FAA. Your family doctor or > your own doctor won't have a clue about the FAA paperwork. They don't > know what's allowed and what isn't. What forced me out of the air was > some eye surgery that left me with a partial vision loss in one eye. Im > legal to drive without glasses. Everyone else tells me Im healthy. They > FAA says you either have 2 eyes with normal vision or only one eye. To > get certified with one eye means a great deal of paperwork, and a medical > flight test. The medical flight test alone would likely cost more than I > can afford. That does not count the tests that would be needed which may > or may not be covered with insurance. That is assuming that they do not > consider the risk of a reoccurance to be so high as to deny me then I am > totally out of luck. Yes there is some guidelines, but each case can be > at the mercy of the person looking at it. Blood pressure, heart > conditions ect are other areas where its just not that cut and dried. > > I might be willing to try it IF light sport didn't exist. Try renting a > LSA? Around here its nearly impossible and if you do find one its > condition is likely to be suspect. It left me looking at building, which > Id really rather not do either but likely I have little choice if I > continue to fly at all. Right now Im not flying till I get relocated > and see what is in the new location. > > Gene & Tammy wrote: >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" >> >> >> I don't understand how Light Sport can be ending flying careers? If you >> go to your own doctor BEFORE you go to the FAA Medical examiner you will >> know whether you can pass your flight phyical or not. Why take a >> chance.? >> Just my two cents worth >> Gene >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Blackwell" >> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:30 AM >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All >> the Books/Manuals You'll Need >> >> >>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell >>> >>> >>> Sad thing is Light Sport might be ending more flying careers than its >>> starting. If you think you MIGHT have a problem the smart thing is to >>> not try, but in reality you very well may have no problem at all getting >>> a medical. Yet rather than take a chance they don't try with good >>> reason. >>> >>> shad bell wrote: >>>> *Don't give up! I had problems getting my medical in 1996 when i >>>> started flying at age 18. I am now 28 and just started flying my >>>> father's piet this past spring. It took me about a year to get my >>>> medical streightened out but now that I have it it is a lot eaiser to >>>> "renew". If I ever suspect I would not pass a 3rd class I will just >>>> let it expire and go sport pilot. It is all up to you, but if you >>>> really want to keep flying, and build a piet go for it. By the time >>>> you get the piet done your 3rd class medical should be strieghtened >>>> out. If you did not get "denied" or get a failed physical letter from >>>> the FAA you are still leagle to fly sport pilot with no other action >>>> required. If you just suspect you will not pass then do NOT go take >>>> another faa physical. * >>>> ** *Just my 2 cents worth, good luck.* >>>> *Shad* >>>> >>>> Get on board. You're invited >>>> >>>> to try the new Yahoo! Mail. >>>> >>>> * >>>> >>>> >>>> * >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:41:39 PM PST US From: KMHeide Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cowling information: Sizes and Cost Members of the list: Here as the dimensions of the cowlings finished. The smaller cowling (bottom) is 7 deep X 20 long X 26 wide at the widest point. The larger cowling (Top) is 13 deep X 22 long X 29 wide. As for the final pricing...Great News! Because of all the demands for cowlings...the price is $274.32 plus shipping. Much less then I original quoted. I will start the manufacturing process next week so I have plenty of sets in stock! Any question please contact me and I will be in touch as soon as possible. Ken Heide Fargo, ND --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:20:48 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need From: Amsafetyc@aol.com --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Amsafetyc@aol.com Jim should not be hard to find. I just saw him last week at his home in oklahoma. You may want to post his name in the subject line of your post to get his attention. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: greg menoche To:pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: greg menoche Hello, I'm looking for Jim Markle in TX. Please get ahold of me at 302 462 5251 or gnwac@earthlink.net We had chatted and met at BH 2004 or 05. Thanks, Greg Menoche -----Original Message----- >From: Mark Blackwell >Sent: Oct 6, 2006 1:45 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell > >Most people at some point develop medical issues that come with life. >Some are not hard for the FAA to deal with, but many can be very >unpredictable in the response you get from the FAA. Your family doctor >or your own doctor won't have a clue about the FAA paperwork. They >don't know what's allowed and what isn't. What forced me out of the air >was some eye surgery that left me with a partial vision loss in one >eye. Im legal to drive without glasses. Everyone else tells me Im >healthy. They FAA says you either have 2 eyes with normal vision or >only one eye. To get certified with one eye means a great deal of >paperwork, and a medical flight test. The medical flight test alone >would likely cost more than I can afford. That does not count the tests >that would be needed which may or may not be covered with insurance. >That is assuming that they do not consider the risk of a reoccurance to >be so high as to deny me then I am totally out of luck. Yes there is >some guidelines, but each case can be at the mercy of the person looking >at it. Blood pressure, heart conditions ect are other areas where its >just not that cut and dried. > >I might be willing to try it IF light sport didn't exist. Try renting a >LSA? Around here its nearly impossible and if you do find one its >condition is likely to be suspect. It left me looking at building, >which Id really rather not do either but likely I have little choice if >I continue to fly at all. Right now Im not flying till I get >relocated and see what is in the new location. > >Gene & Tammy wrote: >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" >> >> >> I don't understand how Light Sport can be ending flying careers? If >> you go to your own doctor BEFORE you go to the FAA Medical examiner >> you will know whether you can pass your flight phyical or not. Why >> take a chance.? >> Just my two cents worth >> Gene >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Blackwell" >> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:30 AM >> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got >> All the Books/Manuals You'll Need >> >> >>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell >>> >>> >>> Sad thing is Light Sport might be ending more flying careers than its >>> starting. If you think you MIGHT have a problem the smart thing is >>> to not try, but in reality you very well may have no problem at all >>> getting a medical. Yet rather than take a chance they don't try with >>> good reason. >>> >>> shad bell wrote: >>>> *Don't give up! I had problems getting my medical in 1996 when i >>>> started flying at age 18. I am now 28 and just started flying my >>>> father's piet this past spring. It took me about a year to get my >>>> medical streightened out but now that I have it it is a lot eaiser >>>> to "renew". If I ever suspect I would not pass a 3rd class I will >>>> just let it expire and go sport pilot. It is all up to you, but if >>>> you really want to keep flying, and build a piet go for it. By the >>>> time you get the piet done your 3rd class medical should be >>>> strieghtened out. If you did not get "denied" or get a failed >>>> physical letter from the FAA you are still leagle to fly sport pilot >>>> with no other action required. If you just suspect you will not >>>> pass then do NOT go take another faa physical. * >>>> ** *Just my 2 cents worth, good luck.* >>>> *Shad* >>>> >>>> Get on board. You're invited >>>> >>>> to try the new Yahoo! Mail. >>>> >>>> * >>>> >>>> >>>> * >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:32 PM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Jim Markle Talked to Greg today....thanks everyone. -----Original Message----- >From: Amsafetyc@aol.com >Sent: Oct 6, 2006 7:22 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Amsafetyc@aol.com > >Jim should not be hard to find. I just saw him last week at his home in oklahoma. You may want to post his name in the subject line of your post to get his attention. > >John >Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >-----Original Message----- >From: greg menoche >Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 14:19:48 -0500 (GMT-05:00) >To:pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need > >--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: greg menoche > >Hello, I'm looking for Jim Markle in TX. Please get ahold of me at 302 462 5251 or gnwac@earthlink.net >We had chatted and met at BH 2004 or 05. Thanks, Greg Menoche > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:19:27 PM PST US From: Mark Blackwell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got All the Books/Manuals You'll Need --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell Well its the nature of the beast. Id rather buy if I could, but because its experimental anyone able to get hull insurance at a price thats reasonable so it could be financed? Never seen anyone that would write it. I don't have any tail wheel time either, but I wasn't a rookie either. A former flight instructor with about 2000 hours flight time in over 50 different makes and models, but even that with no tail wheel time Id likely be tough to insure for more than liability. Can't even fly a 150 now, and that still takes some getting used to to type even after about 2 years. The building might be a form of financing. Gene & Tammy wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" > > > Mark, > Lots of good points. Guess I'm lucker than most as my Dr. is also a > pilot and seems to have a good handle on what the FAA will and will not. > If you don't want to build then why not buy one already built? Lots > of really good ones out there for less than you can build one for. > Just a thought. > Gene N502R----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Blackwell" > > To: > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:45 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got > All the Books/Manuals You'll Need > > >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell >> >> >> Most people at some point develop medical issues that come with life. >> Some are not hard for the FAA to deal with, but many can be very >> unpredictable in the response you get from the FAA. Your family >> doctor or your own doctor won't have a clue about the FAA paperwork. >> They don't know what's allowed and what isn't. What forced me out of >> the air was some eye surgery that left me with a partial vision loss >> in one eye. Im legal to drive without glasses. Everyone else tells >> me Im healthy. They FAA says you either have 2 eyes with normal >> vision or only one eye. To get certified with one eye means a great >> deal of paperwork, and a medical flight test. The medical flight >> test alone would likely cost more than I can afford. That does not >> count the tests that would be needed which may or may not be covered >> with insurance. That is assuming that they do not consider the risk >> of a reoccurance to be so high as to deny me then I am totally out of >> luck. Yes there is some guidelines, but each case can be at the >> mercy of the person looking at it. Blood pressure, heart conditions >> ect are other areas where its just not that cut and dried. >> >> I might be willing to try it IF light sport didn't exist. Try >> renting a LSA? Around here its nearly impossible and if you do find >> one its condition is likely to be suspect. It left me looking at >> building, which Id really rather not do either but likely I have >> little choice if I continue to fly at all. Right now Im not flying >> till I get relocated and see what is in the new location. > > >> >> Gene & Tammy wrote: >>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" >>> >>> >>> I don't understand how Light Sport can be ending flying careers? If >>> you go to your own doctor BEFORE you go to the FAA Medical examiner >>> you will know whether you can pass your flight phyical or not. Why >>> take a chance.? >>> Just my two cents worth >>> Gene >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Blackwell" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:30 AM >>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Want to Build a Corvair Piet? I've Got >>> All the Books/Manuals You'll Need >>> >>> >>>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell >>>> >>>> >>>> Sad thing is Light Sport might be ending more flying careers than >>>> its starting. If you think you MIGHT have a problem the smart >>>> thing is to not try, but in reality you very well may have no >>>> problem at all getting a medical. Yet rather than take a chance >>>> they don't try with good reason. >>>> >>>> shad bell wrote: >>>>> *Don't give up! I had problems getting my medical in 1996 when i >>>>> started flying at age 18. I am now 28 and just started flying my >>>>> father's piet this past spring. It took me about a year to get my >>>>> medical streightened out but now that I have it it is a lot eaiser >>>>> to "renew". If I ever suspect I would not pass a 3rd class I will >>>>> just let it expire and go sport pilot. It is all up to you, but >>>>> if you really want to keep flying, and build a piet go for it. By >>>>> the time you get the piet done your 3rd class medical should be >>>>> strieghtened out. If you did not get "denied" or get a failed >>>>> physical letter from the FAA you are still leagle to fly sport >>>>> pilot with no other action required. If you just suspect you will >>>>> not pass then do NOT go take another faa physical. * >>>>> ** *Just my 2 cents worth, good luck.* >>>>> *Shad* >>>>> >>>>> Get on board. You're invited >>>>> >>>>> to try the new Yahoo! Mail. >>>>> >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> * >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:00:18 PM PST US From: "Graham Hansen" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Touching bases... Hi Shawn, I saw your posting on the Pietenpol list regarding winter flying and it brought back memories of some mighty cold winter days when I used to fly my Piet on skis. In fact, I flew its initial test flights on skis in November 1970...but I was younger and tougher then. As you observed, the Pietenpol is an excellent skiplane with good lift at low speeds. It is easy to make good landings because one can hear the heels of the skis dragging on the snow surface. Or, by watching your shadow when the sun is off to one side (at a typically low angle in winter), one can "cheat" a little. Did you make your planned trip out to B.C. this past summer? The poor little Midget Mustang is still sitting in that hangar, covered with dust and bird droppings. Did that fellow ever come to look at it, or get in touch with Brad? Good to hear you are still actively flying the Pietenpol. I flew mine for only about 15 hours over the summer. I'll maybe fly it this weekend and change the oil. If the weather is favorable, I'd like to fly it on November 15th to mark the 36th anniversary of its first flight. Cheers, Graham