---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 10/15/06: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:21 PM - Piet struts (Gene Beenenga) 2. 06:44 PM - Re: Piet struts (Jdavis2a@wmconnect.com) 3. 10:49 PM - Re: Piet struts (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:21:30 PM PST US From: Gene Beenenga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet struts --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Gene Beenenga Piet and GN-1 owners, I am curious if there are ANY Piet and GN-1's flying with streamlined aluminum wing struts. If would just respond with; wether its Piet or GN-1 and a yes or no, to using streamlined aluminum wing struts. Ken -----Original Message----- >From: Rick Holland >Sent: Oct 13, 2006 2:20 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Steve Beasley > >Jack > >Jack, I will take them. And yes they can be cut down to 8 foot lengths for >UPS shipment. Will send you separte email with shipping info. And please >let me send you a case of good Guinness or something just for going to all >the trouble. > >Rick > >do not archive > >On 10/13/06, Phillips, Jack < Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> wrote: >> >> If anyone is interested, I have 4 old J-3 *rear* lift struts taking up >> space and leaking oil on the floor in my basement. I used front struts off >> two J-3's for my Piet. Rears are a little smaller but are much less trouble >> than the front struts (the front struts had the fairleads for the aileron >> cables which had to be removed and ground down). $50 plus shipping and they >> are yours. Shipping will have to be by truck if they are full length, or I >> can cut them down to 8' to be shipped by UPS. Be sure 8' will be enough for >> your installation before you tell me to cut them. >> >> >> >> I've been planning to put them on ebay, but want to offer them to the Piet >> family first. >> >> >> >> Jack Phillips >> >> NX899JP >> >> >> >> Looking forward to tomorrow ? beautiful October weather and two fly-ins to >> go to in my Pietenpol >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: >> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] * On Behalf Of *Rick Holland >> *Sent:* Friday, October 13, 2006 2:31 PM >> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: Steve Beasley >> >> >> >> That's funny Leon, I also finished my second wing right after >> Broadhead/Osh. Maybe it was that little tailgate party at Broadhead that got >> up all pumped up. And I am right where you are with the flying strut thing. >> I have been thinking about this since I started the project: >> >> "Just go into any hanger anywhere and you will find old Cub struts in >> great shape" - NOT! >> >> "Just get aluminum struts, only $50 each" - but you better have an >> engineer design the end fittings, wrong aluminum alloy and your dead, if you >> use steel you have dissimilar metal corrosion issues plus steel bolts in >> soft aluminum will wear the aluminum with time, plus aluminum fatigues with >> age and steel does not. >> >> "Just use round 4130 tubing" - but I will lose at least one mph cruise >> speed and my Piet will look like an ultralight, and you guys will laugh at >> me if I ever make it to Broadhead. >> >> "Alright, just bite the bullet and buy NEW 4130 streamline" - but that >> will cost a fortune! >> >> Round and round I go. So I called Dillsberg the other day and 2.3 by 1.0streamline will cost me $27/ft. (for 8 foot lengths) and AS came in at >> $21.76 believe it or not, Wicks is about the same. >> >> By the way, I stopped at the Zenith booth at Oshkosh and looked at the >> struts on the 701 which is nearly identical gross weight. Looking at the >> plans I noticed the 4 round 4130 struts on it are 1 1/4" .035! Making .049 >> 4130 streamline struts about two to four times that needed for utility >> class. >> >> Rick >> >> >> On 10/10/06, *Leon Stefan* < lshutks@webtv.net> wrote: >> >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) >> >> HI, the other Mike C. and Chuck: Steve Beasley had written several >> notes in the old Buckeye newsletter (before Grant). I met him once at >> the EAA meeting at Ellsworth, then again at a function at Wiebie"s >> airport at Halsted. At that time he had a Model B engine and not much >> more. This was a few years ago. Maybe he is doing something now. Yah >> Chuck I've noticed the good fall flying weather. In fact I just hang my >> head and cry when I think that I should be up there. I still have the >> directions to your hangar. I'll get there one day. I promise. After >> Brodhead and Osh. I got my ass in gear and built my right (2nd) wing. >> I don't know if Brodhead inspired me or if I just realised I needed to >> get with it. I worked most weekends and an hour or so each day from >> early Aug. until a week ago when It is 98% done. I hope to get a couple >> of good weekend days with no rain so I can stick the wings on, string >> the cables and measure for the struts before it gets too cold to work on >> it. EAA ch 88 is at Webies-Halsted this mo. I am going to be there >> around noon after I get a little shut eye. Maybe you two could get over >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> * * >> >> _________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N >> >> * >> >=========== >> >w.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >=========== >=========== >=========== >> >> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >=========== >> >> * >> >> > > >-- >Rick Holland > >"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:44:26 PM PST US From: Jdavis2a@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet struts Two Piets on my field are flying with al. struts. Mine since 95 and the other for about 7 years. Jim ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:49:36 PM PST US From: Clif Dawson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet struts There's still working DC-3's out there. I seem to remember they are made of Aluminum, aren't they? 8^) Dehaviland Beavers, Seriously overloaded workhorses that they are, aren't falling out of the sky either. Clif ----- Original Message ----- From: Jdavis2a@wmconnect.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 6:41 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet struts Two Piets on my field are flying with al. struts. Mine since 95 and the other for about 7 years. Jim