---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 10/17/06: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:17 AM - Fw: [carolinasportflyers] Carolina Sport Flyers Fly-in this weekend (bryan green) 2. 06:39 AM - Re: Chet Peek's new Pietenpol book (Phillips, Jack) 3. 06:43 AM - Re: The Pietenpol Story (R Matt Doody) 4. 06:46 AM - Re: Chet Peek's new Pietenpol book (RAMPEYBOY@aol.com) 5. 06:47 AM - Re: The Pietenpol Story (RAMPEYBOY@aol.com) 6. 06:52 AM - Re: Chet Peek's new Pietenpol book (RAMPEYBOY@aol.com) 7. 07:06 AM - on the road again (amsafetyc@aol.com) 8. 08:24 AM - Plans on Ebay (Alan Lyscars) 9. 08:34 AM - Re: Chet Peek's new Pietenpol book (Ken) 10. 08:47 AM - Re: Chet Peek's new Pietenpol book (RAMPEYBOY@aol.com) 11. 11:23 AM - Adhesive question (amsafetyc@aol.com) 12. 01:59 PM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 24 Msgs - 10/16/06 (Matt Keyes) 13. 05:24 PM - Gordon Bowen (Dick Navratil) 14. 05:58 PM - wing strut failure (Oscar Zuniga) 15. 07:12 PM - Re: wing strut failure (Dick Navratil) 16. 07:13 PM - A65 oil filter screen (Oscar Zuniga) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:17:57 AM PST US From: "bryan green" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: [carolinasportflyers] Carolina Sport Flyers Fly-in this weekend Do not archive Bryan Green (Elgin SC) ---- Original Message ----- From: John Davis cgshawk@yahoogroups.com ; phantomflyers@yahoogroups.com ; Ransflyers@yahoogroups.com ; cockfeildflyingcharacters@yahoogroups.com ; eaachaptertimmonsville@yahoogroups.com ; John Davis Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 5:25 PM Subject: [carolinasportflyers] Carolina Sport Flyers Fly-in this weekend Carolina Sport Flyers Annual Fall Fly-in Time: All Day Type: Club Event Location: Lee County Airport( Butters Field ) Bishopville,SC John Davis Phone: 803-484-4958 Flying- http://www.airnav.com/airport/52J FAA INFORMATION EFFECTIVE 28 SEPTEMBER 2006 Location FAA Identifier: 52J Lat/Long: 34-14-40.1460N / 080-14-09.7210W 34-14.669100N / 080-14.162017W 34.2444850 / -80.2360336 (estimated) Elevation: 211 SERVICE STATION [1-866-225-2172] NOTAMs facility: AND (NOTAM-D service available) Attendance: UNATNDD Wind indicator: yes Segmented circle: yes Airport Communications CTAF: 122.9 WX AWOS-3 at HVS (11 nm NE): 118.225 (843-339-9625) WX AWOS-3 at SMS (16 nm SW): 118.075 (803-469-6750) WX AWOS-3 at CDN (16 nm W): 119.975 (803-424-1979) Nearby radio navigation aids 05W NDB name Hdg/Dist Freq Var ID HARTSVILLE 218/11.3 341 07W HVS .... ...- ... CAMDEN 103/16.3 263 05W CDN PYG .--. -.-- --. EVANS 321/33.0 420 06W CFY -.-. ..-. -.-- MC ENTIRE 061/33.6 427 05W MMT -- -- - BENNETTSVILLE 235/33.6 2 07W BES -... . ... CHERAW 217/35.0 409 05W CQW -.-. --.- .-- KINGSTREE 335/36.9 404 06W CKI -.-. -.- .. MANNING 004/3 381 06W MNI -- -. .. Airport Services Parking: tie downs Airframe service: NONE Powerplant service: NONE Bottled oxygen: NONE Bulk oxygen: NONE Runway Information Runway 6/24 Dimensions: 3200 x 60 ft. / 975 x 18 m Surface: asphalt RUNWAY 24 Latitude: 34-14.501500N 34-14.836667N Longitude: 080-14.407500W 080-13.916500W Elevation: 211.0 ft. 187.8 ft. Traffic pattern: left left Markings: , in good condition , in good condition Obstructions: 112 ft. tree, 2947 ft. from runway, 10 ft. right of center line, 24:1 slope to clear none Airport Operational Statistics Bring your own tie downs please Young Eagle will be there giving free Rides to the Kids Challenger, Phantom, CGS Hawk, X-Air and a few other dealers will be there. Food and Drinks will be on Sat by a local Church with all proceeds going to the Church, Volunteers are welcome to help cook and serve for the church. Food Prices are: Hamburger plates $5.00 includes One Hamburger, Cole Slaw, Baked Beans, Chips, Cake and Drink. Hot dog plates $5.00 includes 2 Hot dogs, Cole Slaw, Baked Beans, Chips, Cake and Drink Hot dog/Hamburger Combo Plates $6.00 includes One Hamburger, One Hot dog, Cole Slaw, Baked Beans, Chips, Cake and Drink Hamburgers $3.00, Hot dogs $2.00, Drinks $1.00, Coffee $1.00, Biscuits $1.00 Boiled Peanuts $1.00 a bag Free Parking,Camping and admission but no Hookups for you Campers, Sorry DPE Mr. Carrol Joye will be here on Sport Pilot and Private Pilot to fill us all in on Changes and updates Sunday Morning if All goes well we are Planning on flying over to the EAA Chapter 629 in Timmonsville, SC for there Breakfast club meeting Please come and just have some good clean fun From Everyone at Carolina Sport Flyers, Chapter one and two. Hope to see you all. John W.Davis John W.Davis Thank God for another day!!!!!!! rates starting at 1=A2/min. __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (2) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Polls | Members | Calendar Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity a.. 1New Members b.. 4New Photos Visit Your Group SPONSORED LINKS a.. Experimental aircraft b.. Holly hill c.. Experimental jet aircraft d.. Experimental aircraft for sale Yahoo! News Movies News All the latest on films and stars Y! GeoCities Share Your Resume Show off your talent and skills. Share Photos Put your favorite photos and more online. . __,_._,___ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:00 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Chet Peek's new Pietenpol book From: "Phillips, Jack" --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" What's the contact info to order one of these books? I've misplaced it. Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:02 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Chet Peek's new Pietenpol book --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" Chet Peek's new book, "The Pietenpol Story", features a photograph credited to Grace Ellen Wynne of the Corvair powered "Last Original" Pietenpol, built by Bernard Pietenpol, on the cover. The book is available from Chet Peek; I just got my (autographed) copy and have not yet read it but it will make for good winter reading by the fire. You folks in Florida and San Diego- don't try to figure out what a fireplace is because you'll never need one. We barely even use ours here in south Texas. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:43:46 AM PST US From: R Matt Doody Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Pietenpol Story Glenn, How do we order a copy? Matt --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:34 AM PST US From: RAMPEYBOY@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chet Peek's new Pietenpol book Just sent him a check for mine. The return address on the package I got is: Chester L. Peek 1861 Danfield drive Norman, OK 73072-3000 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:35 AM PST US From: RAMPEYBOY@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The Pietenpol Story Email is RBaron18@aol.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:44 AM PST US From: RAMPEYBOY@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chet Peek's new Pietenpol book Sorry, email is rbaron18@aol.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:05 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: on the road again From: amsafetyc@aol.com Hi all, My travels take me to Charlotte NC and Greenville SC on October 31. Again I am looking to make connection with piet owners/builders/fliers/enthusiasts, etc to visit with look, ask questions and photograph. Please let me know if you are willing to meet with me during that period. I look forward to your reply. John ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:06 AM PST US From: "Alan Lyscars" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Plans on Ebay Gents, Saw GN-1 plans and assorted fittings for sale today on Ebay, Item # 220038092124 . Al Lyscars Portland, Maine ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:33 AM PST US From: Ken Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chet Peek's new Pietenpol book --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Ken And what should be the amount of the check?? Ken RAMPEYBOY@aol.com wrote: > Just sent him a check for mine. The return address on the package I got is: > Chester L. Peek > 1861 Danfield drive > Norman, OK 73072-3000 > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:47:35 AM PST US From: RAMPEYBOY@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Chet Peek's new Pietenpol book Check with Mr Peek to be sure, but mine was $24.95 + $4.00 S&H. Did you get his Email addy? RBaron18 @AOL.com if memory serves... ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:23:06 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Adhesive question From: amsafetyc@aol.com Has anyone tried, or have experience with TiteBond III adhesive in the build ? Its been suggested by a friend but I haven't seen or read anything from builders that may support the use or experience with it. I would be curious to get your feedback on the Tite Bond III system as opposed to the tried and true adhesives being used. John ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:59:20 PM PST US From: Matt Keyes Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 24 Msgs - 10/16/06 How do I get a copy of Chet Peek's book? Matt Keyes, Wisconsin --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:24:57 PM PST US From: "Dick Navratil" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gordon Bowen Hi Gordon I don't have your direct e mail. Could you contact me off list about the Osprey 2 aircraft. Dick N. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:21 PM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: wing strut failure --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" I think I've found a reference to Pietenpol wing strut failure, to go with the recent thread on aluminum struts and jury struts and all that. Chet Peek's book, discussing Bennie Skaarberg's Model A powered Aircamper, gives Pietenpol's comments following the fatal crash: "Pietenpol and other witnesses later revealed the cause of the crash was actually the failure of the wing struts. Skaarberg had tried to do a loop, fallen out of the maneuver at the top, thus putting a reverse load on the struts, and the wing came off." Doesn't say whether Skaarberg's airplane had jury struts installed nor are there pictures of the airplane other than the mangled heap of wreckage, but apparently the comment regarding negative G's was based on this incident. The aluminum strut substitution would seem to warrant some engineering analysis not just in tension, but buckling failure modes in compression when compared with the equivalent 4130 streamlined tubing struts. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:12:41 PM PST US From: "Dick Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wing strut failure --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dick Navratil" Thanks Oscar, I'm crossing off doing a loop in my Piet from things to do next summer. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar Zuniga" Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 7:57 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: wing strut failure > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" > > > I think I've found a reference to Pietenpol wing strut failure, to go with > the recent thread on aluminum struts and jury struts and all that. Chet > Peek's book, discussing Bennie Skaarberg's Model A powered Aircamper, > gives Pietenpol's comments following the fatal crash: "Pietenpol and > other witnesses later revealed the cause of the crash was actually the > failure of the wing struts. Skaarberg had tried to do a loop, fallen out > of the maneuver at the top, thus putting a reverse load on the struts, and > the wing came off." > > Doesn't say whether Skaarberg's airplane had jury struts installed nor are > there pictures of the airplane other than the mangled heap of wreckage, > but apparently the comment regarding negative G's was based on this > incident. The aluminum strut substitution would seem to warrant some > engineering analysis not just in tension, but buckling failure modes in > compression when compared with the equivalent 4130 streamlined tubing > struts. > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:13:53 PM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: A65 oil filter screen --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" My thanks to whoever it was that suggested inspection of the oil screen contents on the A65. I had really not wanted to bugger up the square head on the oil screen cover on mine anymore than it already was from 50+ years of service, but knew it would have to be taken out for inspection sooner or later and every tool in my box was tending to slip on the corners. So a machinist friend of mine made me a square-head socket with a 3/8" adapter so I could use a standard ratchet on it without further messing up the corners of the square head, and also dressed the corners of the cap to give the new tool an excellent purchase on all four faces and corners of the square head. Per your suggestions on this great list, I carefully pulled the screen and washed it out in a coffee filter with avgas, let the liquid evaporate, and found only some minute particles of dust and a few pieces of the usual crud... nothing shiny or metallic. This A65 is good to keep flying, and now I have a quick and reliable way to pull the screen without resorting to measures that knock the corners off the square head again. And no, I don't have any of these for sale. It's a one-off piece, and he engraved it, "Screw-Off Tool Co." Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net