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     0. 12:15 AM - Re: mag compass (Rcaprd@aol.com)
     2. 07:46 AM - Motor mount question (Rick Holland)
     3. 08:45 AM - flight planning (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
     4. 10:08 AM - Re: flight planning (Mark Blackwell)
     5. 02:25 PM - Re: Motor mount question (walt evans)
     6. 03:12 PM - Re: flight planning (Gene & Tammy)
     7. 05:21 PM - Re: WW I moving map at Air Force Museum (Gary Gower)
     8. 05:22 PM - Re: mag compass (Dale Johnson)
     9. 05:57 PM - Re: flight planning (Mark Blackwell)
 
 
 
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      In a message dated 11/4/2006 7:06:48 PM Central Standard Time, 
      taildrags@hotmail.com writes:
      I checked the compass on 41CC at the hangar today and was amazed to find 
      that moving the stick side-to-side swung the compass 10 degrees each way off 
      of heading.  Moving the stick forward and aft doesn't seem to swing it 
      significantly, but left/right does.  Amazing!
      
      PS- the compass is in the top center of the pilot's panel.  I'm not going to 
      move it!
      Oscar,
      I found the same thing when I had my compass in the top center panel.  This 
      past spring, I installed EGT / CHT in the hole the compass was in, and 
      relocated it to the bottom of the wing.  It works MUCH better there.
      
      Chuck G.
      NX770CG
      
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| Subject:  | Motor mount question | 
      
      Am beginning an engine mount for my Corvair and have a question about the
      four firewall attachments. Have seen  Piets done both as per the Continental
      and Corvair engine mount plans and others with straps bent 90 degrees and
      welded around the tube ends. Any method preferred?, best to do it as Bernard
      did it?
      
      Thanks
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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      If you fly in marginal vfr conditions then alternates are probably 
      pretty high on your probable list but if you
      choose only to fly in good solid vfr conditions then alternates never 
      have to be used...unless you have some
      kind of mechanical or human factor condition arise (like chest pain, 
      blurred vision, etc)  If you want to fuss with
      a big chart in an open cockpit airplane, go for it....but as for me and 
      the WWI guys, a strip about as wide as 
      your thigh serves the purpose more than adequately and in our days we 
      have the 'nearest airport' button feature
      on our gps handhelds so if you can't find something using that you 
      should be taking an airliner or Greyhound. Just about every airport I've 
      stopped at in recent years has a computer with a live weather feed 
      showing radar and such so if you have to use an alternate after taking 
      off into know crappy weather conditions then you can at least say you 
      were halfway expecting to. 
      
      MIke C.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: flight planning | 
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell <markb1958@verizon.net>
      
      Mike at least 2 or 3 times I have taken off in good weather, forecast to 
      remain that way and I was sitting at an alternate 60 miles off route.  
      Many parts of the country may be far less changable but it can happen 
      anywhere.  Twice the airport I was heading to closed well after I got my 
      last briefing and took off, once due to a flat tire that happened while 
      I was in the pattern behind them, and once just a few minutes before I 
      got there due to a gear up landing.   Both cases closed the airport for 
      a couple of hours.  Like you mentioned maintenance issues could also 
      cause a diversion and these just scratch the surface of reasons.
      
      The GPS with the nearest function is a big help.  Though it might do 
      everything you need, I have also had a total electrical failure at night 
      including 2 flashlights. One flashlight had weaker batteries (though 
      they worked at take off and a fairly powerful beam, I didn't expect to 
      need them that much so its my fault) and one a bulb blew.  If its 
      mechanical or electrical it can fail.
      
      Though using your system would be great for flights that do not require 
      it, having a sectional in the airplane that could be pulled out should 
      the need arise just makes good common sense  to go with something that 
      makes getting from a to b easier for you.  Something to think about.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Motor mount question | 
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      Rick,
      My vote is to do it like Bernard did it. I'm flying a Continental A65-8, 
      and his mount fit like a glove and flys just like it's supposed to.
      Ain't Life Grand!
      walt evans
      NX140DL
      
      "Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
      Ben Franklin
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Rick Holland 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 9:45 AM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Motor mount question
      
      
        Am beginning an engine mount for my Corvair and have a question about 
      the four firewall attachments. Have seen  Piets done both as per the 
      Continental and Corvair engine mount plans and others with straps bent 
      90 degrees and welded around the tube ends. Any method preferred?, best 
      to do it as Bernard did it? 
      
        Thanks
      
        -- 
        Rick Holland
      
        "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: flight planning | 
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      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
      
      Mark,
      Please understand I only have 10 ro 12 hours flying time in my Piet and I'm 
      not trying to be a smart A--, but do explain how one goes about safely 
      "pulling out and reading a full sectional" in a Piet while flying?
      Gene
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Mark Blackwell" <markb1958@verizon.net>
      Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 12:07 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flight planning
      
      
      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell 
      > <markb1958@verizon.net>
      >
      > Mike at least 2 or 3 times I have taken off in good weather, forecast to 
      > remain that way and I was sitting at an alternate 60 miles off route. 
      > Many parts of the country may be far less changable but it can happen 
      > anywhere.  Twice the airport I was heading to closed well after I got my 
      > last briefing and took off, once due to a flat tire that happened while I 
      > was in the pattern behind them, and once just a few minutes before I got 
      > there due to a gear up landing.   Both cases closed the airport for a 
      > couple of hours.  Like you mentioned maintenance issues could also cause a 
      > diversion and these just scratch the surface of reasons.
      >
      > The GPS with the nearest function is a big help.  Though it might do 
      > everything you need, I have also had a total electrical failure at night 
      > including 2 flashlights. One flashlight had weaker batteries (though they 
      > worked at take off and a fairly powerful beam, I didn't expect to need 
      > them that much so its my fault) and one a bulb blew.  If its mechanical or 
      > electrical it can fail.
      >
      > Though using your system would be great for flights that do not require 
      > it, having a sectional in the airplane that could be pulled out should the 
      > need arise just makes good common sense  to go with something that makes 
      > getting from a to b easier for you.  Something to think about.
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: WW I moving map at Air Force Museum | 
      
      Get a color copy of the parts of the chart you need at any copy shop...   
        Here we dont find charts easy at the airports, so we keep them as treassure.
      The older the better, more airstrips... 
         
        Saludos
        Gary Gower. 
      
      Rcaprd@aol.com wrote:
              In a message dated 11/4/2006 10:30:53 AM Central Standard Time, michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov
      writes:
        Jim-- while visiting the USAF Musuem in Dayton Ohio earlier this summer I saw
      a very similar setup to what your
      photo shows from WWI.
        Yep, I've been there 3 times, and plan on another stop on my cross country drives
      from Wichita to Wheeling.  It's a great stop !!
        I really like Jim's picture of the chart roller, and may incorporate it into
      my cockpit.  The only trouble is I don't like the thought of cutting up a chart.
         
        Chuck G.
        NX770CG
      
      
      ---------------------------------
      
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      X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.2.15.0 (Windows)
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dale Johnson" <ddjohn@earthlink.net>
      
      Oscar
      It's easy to degauss the stick by passing a magnetic field over the stick
      and then moving it away.
      This happenes when it is welded.
      You do it like you would magneitize or demagneitize a screw driver.
      Dale Johnson  Mpls
      
      
      > [Original Message]
      > From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > Date: 11/4/2006 7:07:54 PM
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: mag compass
      >
      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga"
      <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      >
      > I checked the compass on 41CC at the hangar today and was amazed to find 
      > that moving the stick side-to-side swung the compass 10 degrees each way
      off 
      > of heading.  Moving the stick forward and aft doesn't seem to swing it 
      > significantly, but left/right does.  Amazing!
      >
      > PS- the compass is in the top center of the pilot's panel.  I'm not going
      to 
      > move it!
      >
      > Oscar Zuniga
      > San Antonio, TX
      > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      >
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| Subject:  | Re: flight planning | 
      
      --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell <markb1958@verizon.net>
      
      The whole thing has to be folded, but pilots did that long before anyone 
      ever thought of a handheld GPS in open cockpit airplanes.  Could be on 
      lap boards, could be a lot of ways all of which different people would 
      want different ways. A pre fold would be smart, and yes it would take 
      care and practice to keep it in the airplane.  Yet not having a map in 
      the airplane for any area you are even near makes no sense to me.   Yet 
      everyone has their own way of doing things and that fine.  Lots of ways 
      to get things done, and as long as its been carefully thought out it 
      usually works just fine. 
      
      If Mike's way works for him thats great and if it sounded like a slight 
      to him I want to make a public apology.  That wasn't my intent.  Sooner 
      or later you will be at an alternate in any airplane even a Piet.  Every 
      flight should have at least a thought of where you might go if you can't 
      get to where you want to be and plenty of fuel to do it.    You might 
      not use either the alternate or the map, but the one time you do you 
      will be very glad its there.  The intent was to give just something else 
      to add to the planning, which if you are taking the time to cut maps to 
      that size some planning is taking place. 
      
      Gene & Tammy wrote:
      > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" 
      > <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
      >
      > Mark,
      > Please understand I only have 10 ro 12 hours flying time in my Piet 
      > and I'm not trying to be a smart A--, but do explain how one goes 
      > about safely "pulling out and reading a full sectional" in a Piet 
      > while flying?
      > Gene
      > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Blackwell" 
      > <markb1958@verizon.net>
      > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 12:07 PM
      > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flight planning
      >
      >
      >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell 
      >> <markb1958@verizon.net>
      >>
      >> Mike at least 2 or 3 times I have taken off in good weather, forecast 
      >> to remain that way and I was sitting at an alternate 60 miles off 
      >> route. Many parts of the country may be far less changable but it can 
      >> happen anywhere.  Twice the airport I was heading to closed well 
      >> after I got my last briefing and took off, once due to a flat tire 
      >> that happened while I was in the pattern behind them, and once just a 
      >> few minutes before I got there due to a gear up landing.   Both cases 
      >> closed the airport for a couple of hours.  Like you mentioned 
      >> maintenance issues could also cause a diversion and these just 
      >> scratch the surface of reasons.
      >>
      >> The GPS with the nearest function is a big help.  Though it might do 
      >> everything you need, I have also had a total electrical failure at 
      >> night including 2 flashlights. One flashlight had weaker batteries 
      >> (though they worked at take off and a fairly powerful beam, I didn't 
      >> expect to need them that much so its my fault) and one a bulb blew.  
      >> If its mechanical or electrical it can fail.
      >>
      >> Though using your system would be great for flights that do not 
      >> require it, having a sectional in the airplane that could be pulled 
      >> out should the need arise just makes good common sense  to go with 
      >> something that makes getting from a to b easier for you.  Something 
      >> to think about.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      
      
 
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