---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/05/06: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:15 AM - Re: mag compass (Rcaprd@aol.com) 2. 07:46 AM - Motor mount question (Rick Holland) 3. 08:45 AM - flight planning (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]) 4. 10:08 AM - Re: flight planning (Mark Blackwell) 5. 02:25 PM - Re: Motor mount question (walt evans) 6. 03:12 PM - Re: flight planning (Gene & Tammy) 7. 05:21 PM - Re: WW I moving map at Air Force Museum (Gary Gower) 8. 05:22 PM - Re: mag compass (Dale Johnson) 9. 05:57 PM - Re: flight planning (Mark Blackwell) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:15:55 AM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: mag compass In a message dated 11/4/2006 7:06:48 PM Central Standard Time, taildrags@hotmail.com writes: I checked the compass on 41CC at the hangar today and was amazed to find that moving the stick side-to-side swung the compass 10 degrees each way off of heading. Moving the stick forward and aft doesn't seem to swing it significantly, but left/right does. Amazing! PS- the compass is in the top center of the pilot's panel. I'm not going to move it! Oscar, I found the same thing when I had my compass in the top center panel. This past spring, I installed EGT / CHT in the hole the compass was in, and relocated it to the bottom of the wing. It works MUCH better there. Chuck G. NX770CG ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:01 AM PST US From: "Rick Holland" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Motor mount question Am beginning an engine mount for my Corvair and have a question about the four firewall attachments. Have seen Piets done both as per the Continental and Corvair engine mount plans and others with straps bent 90 degrees and welded around the tube ends. Any method preferred?, best to do it as Bernard did it? Thanks -- Rick Holland "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:18 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: flight planning From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" If you fly in marginal vfr conditions then alternates are probably pretty high on your probable list but if you choose only to fly in good solid vfr conditions then alternates never have to be used...unless you have some kind of mechanical or human factor condition arise (like chest pain, blurred vision, etc) If you want to fuss with a big chart in an open cockpit airplane, go for it....but as for me and the WWI guys, a strip about as wide as your thigh serves the purpose more than adequately and in our days we have the 'nearest airport' button feature on our gps handhelds so if you can't find something using that you should be taking an airliner or Greyhound. Just about every airport I've stopped at in recent years has a computer with a live weather feed showing radar and such so if you have to use an alternate after taking off into know crappy weather conditions then you can at least say you were halfway expecting to. MIke C. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:08:33 AM PST US From: Mark Blackwell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flight planning --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell Mike at least 2 or 3 times I have taken off in good weather, forecast to remain that way and I was sitting at an alternate 60 miles off route. Many parts of the country may be far less changable but it can happen anywhere. Twice the airport I was heading to closed well after I got my last briefing and took off, once due to a flat tire that happened while I was in the pattern behind them, and once just a few minutes before I got there due to a gear up landing. Both cases closed the airport for a couple of hours. Like you mentioned maintenance issues could also cause a diversion and these just scratch the surface of reasons. The GPS with the nearest function is a big help. Though it might do everything you need, I have also had a total electrical failure at night including 2 flashlights. One flashlight had weaker batteries (though they worked at take off and a fairly powerful beam, I didn't expect to need them that much so its my fault) and one a bulb blew. If its mechanical or electrical it can fail. Though using your system would be great for flights that do not require it, having a sectional in the airplane that could be pulled out should the need arise just makes good common sense to go with something that makes getting from a to b easier for you. Something to think about. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:25:49 PM PST US From: "walt evans" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Motor mount question X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 Rick, My vote is to do it like Bernard did it. I'm flying a Continental A65-8, and his mount fit like a glove and flys just like it's supposed to. Ain't Life Grand! walt evans NX140DL "Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you" Ben Franklin ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Holland To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 9:45 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Motor mount question Am beginning an engine mount for my Corvair and have a question about the four firewall attachments. Have seen Piets done both as per the Continental and Corvair engine mount plans and others with straps bent 90 degrees and welded around the tube ends. Any method preferred?, best to do it as Bernard did it? Thanks -- Rick Holland "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:12:05 PM PST US From: "Gene & Tammy" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flight planning X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" Mark, Please understand I only have 10 ro 12 hours flying time in my Piet and I'm not trying to be a smart A--, but do explain how one goes about safely "pulling out and reading a full sectional" in a Piet while flying? Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Blackwell" Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flight planning > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell > > > Mike at least 2 or 3 times I have taken off in good weather, forecast to > remain that way and I was sitting at an alternate 60 miles off route. > Many parts of the country may be far less changable but it can happen > anywhere. Twice the airport I was heading to closed well after I got my > last briefing and took off, once due to a flat tire that happened while I > was in the pattern behind them, and once just a few minutes before I got > there due to a gear up landing. Both cases closed the airport for a > couple of hours. Like you mentioned maintenance issues could also cause a > diversion and these just scratch the surface of reasons. > > The GPS with the nearest function is a big help. Though it might do > everything you need, I have also had a total electrical failure at night > including 2 flashlights. One flashlight had weaker batteries (though they > worked at take off and a fairly powerful beam, I didn't expect to need > them that much so its my fault) and one a bulb blew. If its mechanical or > electrical it can fail. > > Though using your system would be great for flights that do not require > it, having a sectional in the airplane that could be pulled out should the > need arise just makes good common sense to go with something that makes > getting from a to b easier for you. Something to think about. > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:28 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: WW I moving map at Air Force Museum Get a color copy of the parts of the chart you need at any copy shop... Here we dont find charts easy at the airports, so we keep them as treassure. The older the better, more airstrips... Saludos Gary Gower. Rcaprd@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 11/4/2006 10:30:53 AM Central Standard Time, michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov writes: Jim-- while visiting the USAF Musuem in Dayton Ohio earlier this summer I saw a very similar setup to what your photo shows from WWI. Yep, I've been there 3 times, and plan on another stop on my cross country drives from Wichita to Wheeling. It's a great stop !! I really like Jim's picture of the chart roller, and may incorporate it into my cockpit. The only trouble is I don't like the thought of cutting up a chart. Chuck G. NX770CG --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:22:04 PM PST US X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.2.15.0 (Windows) From: "Dale Johnson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: mag compass --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dale Johnson" Oscar It's easy to degauss the stick by passing a magnetic field over the stick and then moving it away. This happenes when it is welded. You do it like you would magneitize or demagneitize a screw driver. Dale Johnson Mpls > [Original Message] > From: Oscar Zuniga > To: > Date: 11/4/2006 7:07:54 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: mag compass > > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Oscar Zuniga" > > I checked the compass on 41CC at the hangar today and was amazed to find > that moving the stick side-to-side swung the compass 10 degrees each way off > of heading. Moving the stick forward and aft doesn't seem to swing it > significantly, but left/right does. Amazing! > > PS- the compass is in the top center of the pilot's panel. I'm not going to > move it! > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from > Microsoft Office Live > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:38 PM PST US From: Mark Blackwell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flight planning --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell The whole thing has to be folded, but pilots did that long before anyone ever thought of a handheld GPS in open cockpit airplanes. Could be on lap boards, could be a lot of ways all of which different people would want different ways. A pre fold would be smart, and yes it would take care and practice to keep it in the airplane. Yet not having a map in the airplane for any area you are even near makes no sense to me. Yet everyone has their own way of doing things and that fine. Lots of ways to get things done, and as long as its been carefully thought out it usually works just fine. If Mike's way works for him thats great and if it sounded like a slight to him I want to make a public apology. That wasn't my intent. Sooner or later you will be at an alternate in any airplane even a Piet. Every flight should have at least a thought of where you might go if you can't get to where you want to be and plenty of fuel to do it. You might not use either the alternate or the map, but the one time you do you will be very glad its there. The intent was to give just something else to add to the planning, which if you are taking the time to cut maps to that size some planning is taking place. Gene & Tammy wrote: > --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gene & Tammy" > > > Mark, > Please understand I only have 10 ro 12 hours flying time in my Piet > and I'm not trying to be a smart A--, but do explain how one goes > about safely "pulling out and reading a full sectional" in a Piet > while flying? > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Blackwell" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 12:07 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flight planning > > >> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Mark Blackwell >> >> >> Mike at least 2 or 3 times I have taken off in good weather, forecast >> to remain that way and I was sitting at an alternate 60 miles off >> route. Many parts of the country may be far less changable but it can >> happen anywhere. Twice the airport I was heading to closed well >> after I got my last briefing and took off, once due to a flat tire >> that happened while I was in the pattern behind them, and once just a >> few minutes before I got there due to a gear up landing. Both cases >> closed the airport for a couple of hours. Like you mentioned >> maintenance issues could also cause a diversion and these just >> scratch the surface of reasons. >> >> The GPS with the nearest function is a big help. Though it might do >> everything you need, I have also had a total electrical failure at >> night including 2 flashlights. One flashlight had weaker batteries >> (though they worked at take off and a fairly powerful beam, I didn't >> expect to need them that much so its my fault) and one a bulb blew. >> If its mechanical or electrical it can fail. >> >> Though using your system would be great for flights that do not >> require it, having a sectional in the airplane that could be pulled >> out should the need arise just makes good common sense to go with >> something that makes getting from a to b easier for you. Something >> to think about. >> >> >> >> > >