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0. 12:39 AM - WLAS [Please Read] (Matt Dralle)
1. 04:40 AM - Re: How to pronounce Pietenpol? (Gene Beenenga)
2. 05:45 AM - Speaking of Brodhead '07 (Tim Verthein)
3. 05:47 AM - Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH (Skip-Cinda Gadd)
4. 06:07 AM - Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH (Phillips, Jack)
5. 08:57 AM - Re: Speaking of Brodhead '07 (Pietsrneat@aol.com)
6. 09:39 AM - wing strut attachment geometry (John Egan)
7. 09:47 AM - Brodhead & cross country in a Peteandpole (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
8. 11:34 AM - Re: Brodhead accommodations (Rick Holland)
9. 11:34 AM - Re: wing strut attachment geometry (walt evans)
10. 01:22 PM - Re: wing strut attachment geometry (John Egan)
11. 02:23 PM - Re: wing strut attachment geometry (walt evans)
12. 02:56 PM - wing strut attachment geometry (Oscar Zuniga)
13. 03:06 PM - Re: wing strut attachment geometry (Rcaprd@aol.com)
14. 03:26 PM - Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH (Rcaprd@aol.com)
15. 03:26 PM - Re: wing strut attachment geometry (Jack T. Textor)
16. 03:33 PM - Re: wing strut attachment geometry (Rcaprd@aol.com)
17. 04:18 PM - Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH (Gene & Tammy)
18. 04:33 PM - Brodhead (Dick Navratil)
19. 07:05 PM - Tailwind (not Piet!) (Oscar Zuniga)
20. 07:11 PM - High Altitude Ford Performance. (Kevin Ross)
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22. 08:53 PM - Varnish (Catdesigns)
23. 10:49 PM - Re: Varnish (Rcaprd@aol.com)
24. 11:20 PM - Re: Tailwind (not Piet!) (Rcaprd@aol.com)
25. 11:23 PM - Re: High Altitude Ford Performance. (Clif Dawson)
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Subject: | WLAS [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
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Subject: | Re: How to pronounce Pietenpol? |
GREGA, I think, is pronounced, a i r p l a n e.
By the way, if anyone out there has an set of plans for the longer Piet they do
not have further use for and wishes to trade them for some other types of paper,
the kind with small pics of Abraham Lincoln on them, why don't you contact
me, for my archives.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
>From: Roger & Barb <thoreson@earthlink.net>
>Sent: Nov 11, 2006 11:13 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: How to pronounce Pietenpol?
>
>
>>Hi Pete,
>Another lurker here. If you want to stir a little excitement, pronounce it
G-r-e-g-a.
>Roger
>
>
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Subject: | Speaking of Brodhead '07 |
Exactly WHEN is Brodhead 07?
Since we're just in the planning stages for eventually building, we
won't be flying one down for a few years, but we'd like to show up and
have a look! An internet search didn't turn up any details. When..and
where to stay?
Tim in Bovey
==
You *can* repair a flip-flop with a capacitor!
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Cheap talk?
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Subject: | Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH |
John,
Cinda and I are hoping to make Brodhead 07, her in the motor home and me in
the GN-1. We live at Hales Landing (2WV3) about 12 miles south of
Parkersburg WV, and about 50 miles south of your direct line west from
Pittsburgh to skim the south side of Chicago class B. We would hope to
leave here the Tuesday or Wednesday before Brodhead. Haven't planned the
trip yet, but looks like 2 days, or one real long day in a Piet.
Skip
> [Original Message]
<john.rocca@us.army.mil>
>
> Who's planning on flying their Pietenpol to Brodhead next year. God
willing I should have my Piet ready to go and would like to make the trip.
This would be a first time for me and I would rather fly there with a
wingman(s)
> John
> Pittsburgh
>
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Subject: | Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH |
I'll be there, just don't know which airplane. I'd like to bring the
Pietenpol again, but my vacation schedule might dictate otherwise, in
which case I'll arrive in a shameful spam-can and park away from the
real airplanes (hey, being an RV-4 it is at least a taildragger, and a
homebuilt). Brodhead is two days of hard flying from Raleigh in a
Pietenpol, or 4 hours flat in an RV-4. Go figure.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Skip-Cinda Gadd
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV,
OH
--> <csfog@earthlink.net>
John,
Cinda and I are hoping to make Brodhead 07, her in the motor home and me
in the GN-1. We live at Hales Landing (2WV3) about 12 miles south of
Parkersburg WV, and about 50 miles south of your direct line west from
Pittsburgh to skim the south side of Chicago class B. We would hope to
leave here the Tuesday or Wednesday before Brodhead. Haven't planned the
trip yet, but looks like 2 days, or one real long day in a Piet. Skip
> [Original Message]
<john.rocca@us.army.mil>
>
> Who's planning on flying their Pietenpol to Brodhead next year. God
willing I should have my Piet ready to go and would like to make the
trip. This would be a first time for me and I would rather fly there
with a
wingman(s)
> John
> Pittsburgh
>
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Subject: | Re: Speaking of Brodhead '07 |
In a message dated 11/13/2006 8:47:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
minoxphotographer@yahoo.com writes:
Exactly WHEN is Brodhead 07?
Since we're just in the planning stages for eventually building, we
won't be flying one down for a few years, but we'd like to show up and
have a look! An internet search didn't turn up any details. When..and
where to stay?
I do know the dates are July 20, 21 & 22. Still looking for a place to stay
as well.
Ron
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Subject: | wing strut attachment geometry |
Hello group,
I have a question regarding wing strut attachment (geometry) at the spars. I
do not find any archived information on this subject.
As we build our Piets with the wing leaning back a little, and the fact that
by design, the lower wing strut attachment points are ahead of the upper wing
strut attachment points, the struts will also need to lean back accordingly.
As a result, the strut/s will not be aligned with the spar/s. Let's assume we
use hollow streamline tubing for strut material (aluminum or steel), and let's
assume we are fabricating an upper strut fitting with the hole perpendicular
to the strut as shown in photos from previous "fitting" discussions. My question
is "how do we assemble the strut/s to the wing at some required angle to
attach the lower end of the strut/s to the fuselage without having some kind
of capability for angular adjustment at the upper fitting?"
I have looked at many Piets at Brodhead, and if I recall correctly, they all
appear to have similar upper fittings where they get attached to the flat steel
coming off the spars with a perpendiculr hole drilled through the fittings,
and they all look like nice fabrications without any twisting.
Thank you again everyone. It seems that I have been asking my share of questions
lately and I appreciate the help.
John
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Subject: | Brodhead & cross country in a Peteandpole |
That is one LONG trip you made in 2005 Jack to Brodhead and then your
other stops. I can't blame
you for wanting to fly the RV-4 up there. I've had way too much fun
driving and then camping over
by John Hofmann and Rob B. to bring the Piet again but still a
possibility. (I've only got about 6 hours
of flying to do to get to Brodhead from Ohio) You really have to be
dedicated to take a Pietenpol cross
country and it is very rare to find a Piet from more than a few states
away--but we're getting them. John D.
from Colorado, Iron Butt Chuck Gantzer from Kansas, and you from North
Carolina. Steve E. and Duane W. still
take the cake for flying in from Provo, Utah in 1999 though. Man, and
10,000 feet msl to cross those mountains !
Hats off to you all.
Mike C.
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Subject: | Re: Brodhead accommodations |
Couple hotels in Monroe, about 15 minutes away, just google for motels in
Monroe, WS. Also a B&B in Broadhead, forget the name of it.
On 11/12/06, Pietsrneat@aol.com <Pietsrneat@aol.com> wrote:
>
> * I sure this question was asked recently, but I was too dumb to pay
> attention.*
> * I am planning to attend Brodhead 2007. Where can I stay nearby?*
> * *
> *Jim,*
> * I am still interested in those Model A engines. Are you still out
> there?*
> **
> *Ron*
> * *
> * *
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
--
Rick Holland
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Subject: | Re: wing strut attachment geometry |
John,
The upper fitting , where the streamlined meets the flat strap, there is
a single bolt that the strut pivots on.
My Mentor had me put the end of the streamlined tubing in a vise and
flatten it down to the thickness of the flat strap. This way there is
no up/down wobble.
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: John Egan
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:38 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: wing strut attachment geometry
Hello group,
I have a question regarding wing strut attachment (geometry) at the
spars. I do not find any archived information on this subject.
As we build our Piets with the wing leaning back a little, and the
fact that by design, the lower wing strut attachment points are ahead of
the upper wing strut attachment points, the struts will also need to
lean back accordingly. As a result, the strut/s will not be aligned
with the spar/s. Let's assume we use hollow streamline tubing for strut
material (aluminum or steel), and let's assume we are fabricating an
upper strut fitting with the hole perpendicular to the strut as shown
in photos from previous "fitting" discussions. My question is "how do
we assemble the strut/s to the wing at some required angle to attach the
lower end of the strut/s to the fuselage without having some kind of
capability for angular adjustment at the upper fitting?"
I have looked at many Piets at Brodhead, and if I recall correctly,
they all appear to have similar upper fittings where they get attached
to the flat steel coming off the spars with a perpendiculr hole drilled
through the fittings, and they all look like nice fabrications without
any twisting.
Thank you again everyone. It seems that I have been asking my share
of questions lately and I appreciate the help.
John
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Subject: | Re: wing strut attachment geometry |
Walt,
I forgot, I'll have those diagonal flying wires in tension under the wing, so
I feel better using a single bolt.
Thanks again,
John
walt evans <waltdak@verizon.net> wrote:
John,
The upper fitting , where the streamlined meets the flat strap, there is a single
bolt that the strut pivots on.
My Mentor had me put the end of the streamlined tubing in a vise and flatten
it down to the thickness of the flat strap. This way there is no up/down wobble.
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: John Egan
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:38 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: wing strut attachment geometry
Hello group,
I have a question regarding wing strut attachment (geometry) at the spars. I
do not find any archived information on this subject.
As we build our Piets with the wing leaning back a little, and the fact that
by design, the lower wing strut attachment points are ahead of the upper wing
strut attachment points, the struts will also need to lean back accordingly.
As a result, the strut/s will not be aligned with the spar/s. Let's assume we
use hollow streamline tubing for strut material (aluminum or steel), and let's
assume we are fabricating an upper strut fitting with the hole perpendicular
to the strut as shown in photos from previous "fitting" discussions. My question
is "how do we assemble the strut/s to the wing at some required angle to
attach the lower end of the strut/s to the fuselage without having some kind
of capability for angular adjustment at the upper fitting?"
I have looked at many Piets at Brodhead, and if I recall correctly, they all
appear to have similar upper fittings where they get attached to the flat steel
coming off the spars with a perpendiculr hole drilled through the fittings,
and they all look like nice fabrications without any twisting.
Thank you again everyone. It seems that I have been asking my share of questions
lately and I appreciate the help.
John
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Subject: | Re: wing strut attachment geometry |
John,
I thought I understood your question,,,but I know I don't understand
your reply.
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: John Egan
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wing strut attachment geometry
Walt,
I forgot, I'll have those diagonal flying wires in tension under the
wing, so I feel better using a single bolt.
Thanks again,
John
walt evans <waltdak@verizon.net> wrote:
John,
The upper fitting , where the streamlined meets the flat strap,
there is a single bolt that the strut pivots on.
My Mentor had me put the end of the streamlined tubing in a vise and
flatten it down to the thickness of the flat strap. This way there is
no up/down wobble.
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: John Egan
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:38 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: wing strut attachment geometry
Hello group,
I have a question regarding wing strut attachment (geometry) at
the spars. I do not find any archived information on this subject.
As we build our Piets with the wing leaning back a little, and the
fact that by design, the lower wing strut attachment points are ahead of
the upper wing strut attachment points, the struts will also need to
lean back accordingly. As a result, the strut/s will not be aligned
with the spar/s. Let's assume we use hollow streamline tubing for strut
material (aluminum or steel), and let's assume we are fabricating an
upper strut fitting with the hole perpendicular to the strut as shown
in photos from previous "fitting" discussions. My question is "how do
we assemble the strut/s to the wing at some required angle to attach the
lower end of the strut/s to the fuselage without having some kind of
capability for angular adjustment at the upper fitting?"
I have looked at many Piets at Brodhead, and if I recall
correctly, they all appear to have similar upper fittings where they get
attached to the flat steel coming off the spars with a perpendiculr hole
drilled through the fittings, and they all look like nice fabrications
without any twisting.
Thank you again everyone. It seems that I have been asking my
share of questions lately and I appreciate the help.
John
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Subject: | wing strut attachment geometry |
Here's the picture:
http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/P6210018.JPG
There is a bolt (vertical) that holds the attach fitting (strap) into the
end of the streamline tubing and another (fore-and-aft) that holds the
attach fitting to the wing. In this picture (John Dilatush's "Mountain
Piet") there is the added feature of a wing tiedown point, but you can see
that the X-brace wires have tabs that the bolt through the wing attach
fittings capture.
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
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Subject: | Re: wing strut attachment geometry |
In a message dated 11/13/2006 11:42:04 AM Central Standard Time,
johnegan99@yahoo.com writes:
My question is "how do we assemble the strut/s to the wing at some required
angle to attach the lower end of the strut/s to the fuselage without having
some kind of capability for angular adjustment at the upper fitting?"
And remember to design the Jury Struts to be able to adjust for & aft, with
the bolts in the lateral direction. I made my Lift Strut Attachments according
to the plans...I call them 'Lollypop Fittings'. The two bolts running
perpendicular to each other allows the wing to pivot. I have a good picture of
how
I did the lower Jury Strut Attachment at my web site, down toward the bottom
of the page at:
http://nx770cg.com/Wing.html
It's best if you have a high speed connection, because I have so many
pictures there to download.
I now have some actual moving parts on my Tailwind, and I just recently
updated the 'Next Project Tailwind' page too, at:
http://nx770cg.com/NextProjectTailwind.html
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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Subject: | Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH |
In a message dated 11/13/2006 7:51:04 AM Central Standard Time,
csfog@earthlink.net writes:
Haven't planned the
trip yet, but looks like 2 days, or one real long day in a Piet.
Skip,
Making it a two day trip is Much more enjoyable, because you don't have 'Git
There Itis', and you can spend extra time when you're at the fuel stops to
allow all the folks that come out of the woodwork to check out your plane...and
answer all the most popular questions: "What is that ?" "Is it a kit ?"
"Waddya mean you Scratch Built it ???" And, "Where are you going / coming
from ?" Then, of course, they have to take your picture...so you simply have
to plan for all this extra time spent at the stops.
People will walk right past a $200,000 airplane to get a close up and
personal look at your plane !!
The Journey is the Reward !!
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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Subject: | wing strut attachment geometry |
Holy Cow Chuck, you're making some progress on the Tailwind!
Jack Textor
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Rcaprd@aol.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wing strut attachment geometry
In a message dated 11/13/2006 11:42:04 AM Central Standard Time,
johnegan99@yahoo.com writes:
My question is "how do we assemble the strut/s to the wing at
some required angle to attach the lower end of the strut/s to the
fuselage without having some kind of capability for angular adjustment
at the upper fitting?"
And remember to design the Jury Struts to be able to adjust for & aft,
with the bolts in the lateral direction. I made my Lift Strut
Attachments according to the plans...I call them 'Lollypop Fittings'.
The two bolts running perpendicular to each other allows the wing to
pivot. I have a good picture of how I did the lower Jury Strut
Attachment at my web site, down toward the bottom of the page at:
http://nx770cg.com/Wing.html
It's best if you have a high speed connection, because I have so many
pictures there to download.
I now have some actual moving parts on my Tailwind, and I just recently
updated the 'Next Project Tailwind' page too, at:
http://nx770cg.com/NextProjectTailwind.html
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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Subject: | Re: wing strut attachment geometry |
In a message dated 11/13/2006 5:28:46 PM Central Standard Time,
jtextor@thepalmergroup.com writes:
Holy Cow Chuck, you=99re making some progress on the Tailwind!
Jack Textor
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Yeah, I've got to get 'er flying before Jack P. sells his spam can... :)
I'm hoping to complete the wood wings this winter...in my climate controlled
Dining Room !!
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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Subject: | Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH |
Chet,
I live in Tennessee (half way between Nashville and Memphis) and plan on
flying to Broadhead with my Piet. Where in Missouri are you? Any luck with
the engine yet?
Gene
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From: "Chet's Mail" <Chethartley1@mchsi.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH
> <Chethartley1@mchsi.com>
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> John:
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> I plan to fly MR. Hicks piet to Broadhead this year, but Missouir is a
> little out of your way. But that does not mean we can not fly there
> togeather.
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> Chet Hartley
> N920Y
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> From: "Rock-a-Wing" <john.rocca@us.army.mil>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 6:36 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH
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>> <john.rocca@us.army.mil>
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>> Who's planning on flying their Pietenpol to Broadhead next year. God
>> willing I should have my Piet ready to go and would like to make the
>> trip. This would be a first time for me and I would rather fly there with
>> a wingman(s)
>> John
>> Pittsburgh
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=73963#73963
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I will definetly be there, although I may not be flying down this year.
I hope to have my new Piet done by then and hopefully will trailer it
down as test flights will just be begining.
Dick N.
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Subject: | Tailwind (not Piet!) |
No, not GN-1, either!
I will have to say that one of the very first issues of Sport Aviation that
I ever had my hands on back in the 70s, and suddenly realized that it was
possible for ordinary earthlings to build an airplane that could fly in the
same airspace as certified aircraft, featured a Wittman Tailwind that was
built by a gentleman with such talent and attention to detail as I had never
before seen in my life. The project was described over many pages in the
magazine and described how he improved a thing or two here and there, and it
was a most astonishingly beautiful airplane to my little spam can eyes! I
sure wish I could remember who wrote that article and built that Tailwind; I
have the searchable Sport Aviation archive on CD and should just search for
Tailwinds, but I remember sitting up late at night reading those first
copies of Sport Aviation and marvelling at how, even just in a wishful
dream, I might could... maybe... naw... me?... build and fly... a real
airplane? And it could have real instruments just like real airplanes, and
could fly hundreds and thousands of hours and the FAA would let you do it,
here in the radio controlled states of America? Wow! Nobody ever told me!
Carry on, Chuck. If I didn't dislike that oddball single/dual control yoke
thing, I'd love Tailwinds all to pieces. Simple, efficient, fast, clean
lines... and I did mention over on the Corvair list how I thought the
Buttercup would be a marriage made in heaven with the Corvair on the nose.
The Buttercup is just as nice as the Tailwind in many respects.
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Subject: | High Altitude Ford Performance. |
Hi, Do you seasoned Piet Pilots with Ford A power think an "A" can be
modified enough to put out the power needed to fly a long fuselage Piet
at it's max gross weight in the Summer out of an airport with 4,000 feet
elevation? Lots of density altitude. Runway length will be plenty 5,500
feet. If so what engine and/or airframe modifications would you guys
recommend? Thanks, Kevin
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Roman and listers,
I usually don't pick on typing technique, but intentional or not
yours just made my day. "Hi Prople who hope to fly to Brodhead in
07..." Probably just a wrong key, but I read it has a clever hybrid
or compound word referring to those who love Real Airplanes. (Prop
People... Propeller People...ahhhh.) Hoo boy! Maybe it's only funny
to me.
Anyway, I just wanted to second everything about Bill Rewey. I only
met him briefly but he seemed to live up to all the praise. Have fun
with your newly purchased bird.
For Piet's sake DO NOT ARCHIVE
Tim "Easily Amused" Hansen in Orient, OH
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Hey Chuck G.
I noticed on your webpage you used ACE brand Spar Varnish. How did it
hold up to the covering chemicals?
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
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In a message dated 11/13/2006 10:55:35 PM Central Standard Time,
catdesigns@comcast.net writes:
I noticed on your webpage you used ACE brand Spar Varnish. How did it hold
up to the covering chemicals?
No problems, Chris. I included the part number there, too. Just allow it to
cure 100%...maybe a couple of days. I use it exclusively to protect all the
wood, even the prop. However, the last time I reworked my prop, I used West
System Epoxy / Fiberglass, to protect the prop.
Chuck G.
NX770CG
p.s. You've got a great web site there !!
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Subject: | Re: Tailwind (not Piet!) |
In a message dated 11/13/2006 9:06:30 PM Central Standard Time,
taildrags@hotmail.com writes:
Carry on, Chuck. If I didn't dislike that oddball single/dual control yoke
thing, I'd love Tailwinds all to pieces. Simple, efficient, fast, clean
lines... and I did mention over on the Corvair list how I thought the
Buttercup would be a marriage made in heaven with the Corvair on the nose.
The Buttercup is just as nice as the Tailwind in many respects.
C'mon Oscar !!
That oddball single / duel control yoke speaks volumes about simplicity !!
Another very interesting aspect of the Tailwind, is how the leading edge of
the wing is designed. The inboard portion of the wing angles back in to the
fuselage, and at high angle of attack, allows air to spill over, and accelerate,
over the top of the fuselage, which then the fuselage actually becomes more
of a lifting body, and reduces wing tip vortices. This is how he designed a
high speed airplane, with very gentle stall characteristics. Just before his
demise, Steve Wittman was working on incorporating that movable leading edge
concept (ala Buttercup wing) to the Tailwind wing.
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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Subject: | Re: High Altitude Ford Performance. |
You need to see this;
http://users.aol.com/gmaclaren/dyno.html
Also understand that reliability is inversly propotional to
any hotrodding one does.
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Ross
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:11 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: High Altitude Ford Performance.
Hi, Do you seasoned Piet Pilots with Ford A power think an "A" can be
modified enough to put out the power needed to fly a long fuselage Piet
at it's max gross weight in the Summer out of an airport with 4,000 feet
elevation? Lots of density altitude. Runway length will be plenty 5,500
feet. If so what engine and/or airframe modifications would you guys
recommend? Thanks, Kevin
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