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0. 04:52 AM - LOC (Matt Dralle)
1. 05:52 AM - Re: LOC (Lou Wither)
2. 07:12 AM - FUSELAGE LENGTHS (Bill Weir)
3. 06:16 PM - need advise this is way off topic (Ben Ramler)
4. 07:36 PM - need advise this is way off topic (Oscar Zuniga)
5. 09:39 PM - Re: need advise this is way off topic (gcardinal)
6. 09:47 PM - Oklahoma Fly-in (Steve Ruse)
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I have unsucessfully tried to unsuscribe to the list, I would appreciate you help.
Sold the Pietenpol.
Thanks
Lou Wither
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| Subject: | FUSELAGE LENGTHS |
Thanks, Skip.
Your describing the various Pietenpol fuselages is exactly what was wanted.
Now to work.
Bill Weir
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| Subject: | need advise this is way off topic |
Hello Piet'ers,
Ben up here in St. Cloud, MN. First I want say that I committed a sin. I destroyed
that fuselage that I had started in the name of building a cub replica. But
I need some moral guidence and I thought I would turn to this list for help.
Me and a friend by the name of Robb are trying to get started on a J-3 cub from
Plans that I bought from Light Miniature aircraft. this past weekend we tried
to align everything up and the plans would not match up. Yes these are full
scale plans you build on top of. After trying to get help from a number of people
my questions are not getting answered just more bewilderment. So right now
me and my dad are in the process of redrawing everything. The other choice
I have is to scrap this project and build the aircamper which I have a lot of
knowledge of becuase since 1996 when me and dad got plans from Orrin Hoopman my
dad has been trying to get something flying, but nothing comes of it. So I need
help and a little guidence. I know this forum is less hostile.
sorry for this off topic but I just don't know where else to go and ask!
take Care,
Ben Ramler
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| Subject: | need advise this is way off topic |
ben_ramler2002@yahoo.com wrote:
>So I need help and a little guidence. I know this forum is less hostile.
Yes, this forum is less hostile but it will not lead you to:
-a glass cockpit with IFR capabilities and full electric system;
-an airplane that cruises in the triple digits;
-redundant systems;
-an airplane with an enclosed cockpit and cabin heat;
-an airplane with a $15,000 engine;
-something you build from parts that you took out of a big box
-paint jobs that cost more than the airplane.
If any of your goals for building or flying include the above, you probably
won't find it here.
Ben, you need to go out to an airport on a nice Saturday and watch the
airplanes fly, peek into hangars, look at airplanes that are sitting on the
ramp, and find one that grabs you. One that you like, one that sounds nice,
one that smells nice, one that you want to get into and fly. That's the one
you want to work on because it has to grab you in the heart first. A roll
of plans won't do it, and neither will an advertisement or a price tag or a
pretty paint job. The airplane has to give you "the wink", like a pretty
girl does, and not just one that's wearing a lot of makeup and a short
skirt. When you get "the wink" and your heart skips, that's your girl...
and your airplane.
Since you're here on the Pietenpol list, I think an old wood-and-fabric
airplane already gave you "the wink". I'll bet there are a good bunch of
people in Minnesota who are building or flying Pietenpols that you can look
at, smell, listen to, and maybe fly in. Maybe somebody here on the list
will hook up with you to see if the Aircamper is "the girl next door" for
you. If so, don't expect to do anything in a big hurry... building, flying,
or anything else. We don't move too fast here but that's half the fun.
Guys that are in a hurry tend to pass by the girl without even noticing "the
wink" ;o)
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: need advise this is way off topic |
Hi Ben,
Come to Stanton (SYN) next year when the flying weather returns. I will give
you a ride in NX18235 (see attached pictures) to give you a taste of flying
a Pietenpol.
Forget the LMA Cub, no one will give it a second look on the flightline. If
you come to Stanton on Father's Day for the annual fly-in you will see
hundreds of people walking past Stearmans, Cubs, Waco's, Ercoupes, the usual
throng of RV's, Pitts', Howards and many other types as they flock to the
Pietenpol to look at it closely. Old men look at it with a gleam in their
eyes, kids want to sit in it and woman think it is the "cutest plane ever".
To most people big biplanes are intimidating and enclosed cabin airplanes
are uninviting. The diminutive Pietenpol with it's open cockpits literally
screams "Come and look at me!" People who know nothing about airplanes are
drawn to it like moths to a flame. At the end of the day you will be hoarse
from answering questions about your plane.
Fly-in organizers will ask you to bring your Pietenpol to their airport
fly-ins. Owners of private airstrips will literally beg you to land at their
strip any time you want.
Two weeks ago I took the plane up for the last flight of the season. 70
degrees, sunny and light winds. A perfect day. Lots of farmers in their
fields with tractors and combines. With my leather helmet, goggles and silk
scarf it was too easy to pretend the farmers and their machines were the
mechanized division of the German Wehrmacht. Strafing runs were the order of
the day. The crossed cabane cables made a perfect gunsight. Swooping in and
out of the Cannon River ravines, dodging red-tailed hawks and just flying
for the pure fun of it. I only landed because my gas was getting low.
I had a silly grin on my face for two days.
Build the Pietenpol. YOU WILL NOT REGRET THE DECISION!
Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis
From: "Ben Ramler" <ben_ramler2002@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello Piet'ers,
>
> Ben up here in St. Cloud, MN. First I want say that I committed a sin. I
> destroyed that fuselage that I had started in the name of building a cub
> replica. But I need some moral guidence and I thought I would turn to this
> list for help. Me and a friend by the name of Robb are trying to get
> started on a J-3 cub from Plans that I bought from Light Miniature
> aircraft. this past weekend we tried to align everything up and the plans
> would not match up. Yes these are full scale plans you build on top of.
> After trying to get help from a number of people my questions are not
> getting answered just more bewilderment. So right now me and my dad are in
> the process of redrawing everything. The other choice I have is to scrap
> this project and build the aircamper which I have a lot of knowledge of
> becuase since 1996 when me and dad got plans from Orrin Hoopman my dad has
> been trying to get something flying, but nothing comes of it. So I need
> help and a little guidence. I know this forum is!
> less hostile.
>
> sorry for this off topic but I just don't know where else to go and ask!
>
>
> take Care,
>
> Ben Ramler
>
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I am having a fly-in this weekend at O44 (Oscar44) south of Norman, OK.
Everyone is welcome...its a good 'ol grass strip where my plane is based.
We'll have BBQ and a good time. More details here:
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flyin/
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
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