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     1. 08:41 AM - Re: need advise this is way off topic (Ben Ramler)
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     3. 10:24 AM - The correct spelling is advice..... (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
     4. 10:38 AM - Re: The correct spelling is advice..... ()
     5. 11:08 AM - Re:More advice on cheap flying (Ben Charvet)
     6. 11:18 AM - Re: The correct spelling is advice..... (Gene & Tammy)
     7. 12:21 PM - sounds like  (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
     8. 12:21 PM - Re: The correct spelling is advice..... (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
     9. 01:54 PM - Re: The correct spelling is advice..... (Pietsrneat@AOL.COM)
    10. 03:11 PM - Re: The correct spelling is advice..... (Rick Holland)
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    16. 07:06 PM - Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH (Chet's Mail)
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      Nice but neither me or Robb have the money, besides I have corvair enigne already!
      
      ----- Original Message ----
      From: Greg Bacon <gbacon67@hughes.net>
      Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 8:42:49 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: need advise this is way off topic
      
      
      
      Ben,
      
      There's a really nice O-200 piet currently up for sale on Barnstormers.
      
      http://www.barnstormers.com/cat.php?PHPSESSID=b57446cc465a6aeefe8ef51821bb0929
      
      Get a partner to share the cost of the bird and the hangar rent.  You could 
      be flying RIGHT away!
      
      
      Greg Bacon
      Mtn. Piet Repairman
      Prairie Home, MO
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Ben Ramler" <ben_ramler2002@yahoo.com>
      Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:19 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: need advise this is way off topic
      
      
      > <ben_ramler2002@yahoo.com>
      >
      > but jim do realize how much a 150 or a champ goes for..........way to 
      > much! Its easier for me to build then go flying! Besides sawdust is fun!
      >
      > Ben R
      >
      > St. Cloud, MN
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----
      > From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:50:05 AM
      > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: need advise this is way off topic
      >
      >
      > <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
      >
      > Well, not to mess things up too much...but if all you want to do is go 
      > flying, a homebuilt like a Piet may only frustrate you.
      >
      > Consider what a lot of other homebuilders have done:  Buy an old Champ, 
      > Cessna 120, 150 or similar so you can "go flying".....while you make 
      > sawdust building that Air Camper!
      >
      > I wouldn't dream of trying to change your focus.....but "plans built" 
      > homebuilding projects won't scratch that itch for you....for a LONG time!
      >
      > Actually, as I sit here looking out the window at a beautiful clear blue 
      > sky....all I want to do is go flying!!!!
      >
      > Jim in (kinda) cold NE Oklahoma.....
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      >>From: Ben Ramler <ben_ramler2002@yahoo.com>
      >>Sent: Nov 16, 2006 10:19 AM
      >>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: need advise this is way off topic
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      >><ben_ramler2002@yahoo.com>
      >>
      >>Hi Oscar, Greg, and Group,
      >>
      >> my main to goal is to go flying! IFR and all that other stuff is so over 
      >> rated it's not even funny. A simple airplane is all I need. and my friend 
      >> to. I have done a lot of sitting at airports lately. Plus I've been to 
      >> broadhead with my dad back in 1996 or 1997 don't remember which.
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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      yeah! how much! remember niether robb or me don't have alot of money.
      
      ----- Original Message ----
      From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 8:00:23 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: need advise this is way off topic
      
      
      
      Ben, here's an idea for you.  Pietenpoler Carl Vought died recently and left 
      two very nice Piet projects uncompleted, both for sale.  Buy one and you're 
      75% on the way to flying but can still enjoy completing the construction 
      process on an above-average workmanship project.
      
      There is info available on the person who is handling inquiries on the 
      projects and materials for Carl's widow, Barbara.  The projects are in 
      northern Alabama.
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      San Antonio, TX
      mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      
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      Well I had to say something......plus hopefully start some controversy
      to get the list talking again !    :)))
      
      Ben says that he wants to fly right now and I think we can all relate to
      that.  Many of us can relate to that desire from when we were very
      young---in my case around 6 years old.   I flew kites, rubber band
      models, control line Cox models, Estes rockets, our parents large patio
      umbrella off the roof of our garage when they weren't home and of course
      blowing up old airplane models with firecrackers......but it took
      me until I was 29 years old before I had enough money to put down $
      3,500 on 1/2 ownership in an Aeronca Champ.   Now 1/2 ownership
      in a Champ is about $ 12,500 so I can understand where Ben is coming
      from so do the decent thing and BEG for a ride or hunt around
      and find a CFI that will let you ride with him in the back seat while he
      is giving lessons in a 172.    There are ways to fly now, cheap..but
      you have to be a scrapper and be resourceful---just like when you build
      a non-kit airplane like a Pietenpol.      
      
      Mike C.
      
      
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      I bought a Lazair ultralight back in the mid 80's for 5000$.Put a 77
      Impala up for collateral.My wife was pissed.Still is.I'm sorry but I
      have to fly!I had to sell the Lazair in the mid 90's to pay of some debt
      but in 2000 I bought an N3 pup for 9000$ then the Piet came up for sale
      for 10,000$.I told my wife,listen it's too good a deal to pass up.She's
      still mad.I have two planes and she's still pissed.I wish I'd kept the
      Lazair too and then I'd have three planes and then everybody could be
      mad at me but I'd still be flyin!If you really want to fly ,you'll find
      a way even if it means getting everybody mad at you.Put the house up for
      collateral,the car,the wife, what ever!
      
      
      ________________________________
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy,
      Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
      Sent: November 17, 2006 1:23 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
      
      
      Well I had to say something......plus hopefully start some controversy
      to get the list talking again !    :)))
      
      
      Ben says that he wants to fly right now and I think we can all relate to
      that.  Many of us can relate to that desire from when we were very
      
      young---in my case around 6 years old.   I flew kites, rubber band
      models, control line Cox models, Estes rockets, our parents large patio
      
      umbrella off the roof of our garage when they weren't home and of course
      blowing up old airplane models with firecrackers......but it took
      
      me until I was 29 years old before I had enough money to put down $
      3,500 on 1/2 ownership in an Aeronca Champ.   Now 1/2 ownership
      
      in a Champ is about $ 12,500 so I can understand where Ben is coming
      from so do the decent thing and BEG for a ride or hunt around
      
      and find a CFI that will let you ride with him in the back seat while he
      is giving lessons in a 172.    There are ways to fly now, cheap..but
      
      you have to be a scrapper and be resourceful---just like when you build
      a non-kit airplane like a Pietenpol.      
      
      
      Mike C.
      
      
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      Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC] wrote:
      
      > Well I had to say something......plus hopefully start some controversy 
      > to get the list talking again !    :)))
      >  
      
      Hi all,
      
      There is a guy in our local EAA chapter that just finished a beautiful 
      Pietenpol.  He hadn't flown in a long time and is now taking some 
      lessons with another club member in a J-3.  His plane has flown a couple 
      of times, but not with him at the controls.  I'm still a few years away 
      from that moment, but I decided that I didn't want to have to stand on 
      the side of the runway while a friend of mine did the first flight.  
      Another club member is retiring from flying and had an old Corben Baby 
      Ace for sale at a great price.  Another club member is in the process of 
      getting me a taildragger endorsement and some currency so I can get some 
      liability insurance.  I have a Private ticket, and am going to fly sport 
      pilot.  If all goes well, I should have the airplane in my posession in 
      a few weeks, and be ready to fly the Fly Baby in January of February.  
      It has a Continental A75 with about 100 hours SMOH, 78/80 compression on 
      all 4 cylinders and a fresh annual.  It isn't much to look at, but its 
      open cockpit and probably will fly very similar to a Piet.  Maybe I just 
      got lucky, but I would suggest joining your local EAA chapter, hang out 
      at the local airport as much as you have time, andget all the building 
      advice you can from all the members and the EAA Tech counselors ( my 
      tech advisor was the one that knew about the plane for sale)
      
      Building a Pietenpol is a lot of fun, but not the cheapest or fastest 
      way to get in the air, although you can spread the payments out over 
      5-10 years if you need to!
      
      Ben Charvet
      Mims, Fl
      
      
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      I guess I just don't understand....  How about getting the money to fly 
      the old fashion way?  Get a second job and save til you have the money.
      Question.  If you don't have the money (or can't earn it) how are you 
      going to pay for the Hanger, the gas and up keep?  I don't want to be 
      negative but let's be honest.  It costs a lot to fly and the money has 
      to come from some where.  Buying the plane is only one part of 
      ownership.  
      My wife and my motto is "If you don't dream, dreams can't come true."  
      We've done a lot of crazy things, such as cruising and living on a sail 
      boat for 12 years in the Pacific.  A dream come true?  Yes,  but not 
      without one hell of a lot of work, doing a whole bunch of job I didn't 
      want to do.  It sure was worth it.  I'm retired now but still work one 
      day a week, just so I can keep flying.  Ain't no one else going to do it 
      for me.
      Gene
      N502R  --- Original Message ----- 
        From: harvey.rule@bell.ca 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 12:37 PM
        Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
      
      
        I bought a Lazair ultralight back in the mid 80's for 5000$.Put a 77 
      Impala up for collateral.My wife was pissed.Still is.I'm sorry but I 
      have to fly!I had to sell the Lazair in the mid 90's to pay of some debt 
      but in 2000 I bought an N3 pup for 9000$ then the Piet came up for sale 
      for 10,000$.I told my wife,listen it's too good a deal to pass up.She's 
      still mad.I have two planes and she's still pissed.I wish I'd kept the 
      Lazair too and then I'd have three planes and then everybody could be 
      mad at me but I'd still be flyin!If you really want to fly ,you'll find 
      a way even if it means getting everybody mad at you.Put the house up for 
      collateral,the car,the wife, what ever!
      
         
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      -----
      
        From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, 
      Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
        Sent: November 17, 2006 1:23 PM
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
      
         
      
        Well I had to say something......plus hopefully start some controversy 
      to get the list talking again !    :)))
      
         
      
        Ben says that he wants to fly right now and I think we can all relate 
      to that.  Many of us can relate to that desire from when we were very
      
        young---in my case around 6 years old.   I flew kites, rubber band 
      models, control line Cox models, Estes rockets, our parents large patio
      
        umbrella off the roof of our garage when they weren't home and of 
      course blowing up old airplane models with firecrackers......but it took
      
        me until I was 29 years old before I had enough money to put down $ 
      3,500 on 1/2 ownership in an Aeronca Champ.   Now 1/2 ownership
      
        in a Champ is about $ 12,500 so I can understand where Ben is coming 
      from so do the decent thing and BEG for a ride or hunt around
      
        and find a CFI that will let you ride with him in the back seat while 
      he is giving lessons in a 172.    There are ways to fly now, cheap..but
      
        you have to be a scrapper and be resourceful---just like when you 
      build a non-kit airplane like a Pietenpol.      
      
         
      
        Mike C.
      
         
      
         
      
         
      
      
      www.aeroelectric.comwww.kitlog.comhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet
      enpol-List 
      
      
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      you need to get rid of your wife, Harvey:))
      
      Mike C.
      
      
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      ________________________________
      
      	From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene &
      Tammy
      	Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:18 PM
      	To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      	Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
      
      
      	I guess I just don't understand....  How about getting the money
      to fly the old fashion way?  Get a second job and save til you have the
      money.
      	Question.  If you don't have the money (or can't earn it) how
      are you going to pay for the Hanger, the gas and up keep?  I don't want
      to be negative but let's be honest.  It costs a lot to fly and the money
      has to come from some where.  Buying the plane is only one part of
      ownership.  
      	My wife and my motto is "If you don't dream, dreams can't come
      true."  We've done a lot of crazy things, such as cruising and living on
      a sail boat for 12 years in the Pacific.  A dream come true?  Yes,  but
      not without one hell of a lot of work, doing a whole bunch of job I
      didn't want to do.  It sure was worth it.  I'm retired now but still
      work one day a week, just so I can keep flying.  Ain't no one else going
      to do it for me.
      	Gene
      	N502R  --- Original Message ----- 
      
      		From: harvey.rule@bell.ca 
      		To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
      		Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 12:37 PM
      		Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is
      advice.....
      
      
      		I bought a Lazair ultralight back in the mid 80's for
      5000$.Put a 77 Impala up for collateral.My wife was pissed.Still is.I'm
      sorry but I have to fly!I had to sell the Lazair in the mid 90's to pay
      of some debt but in 2000 I bought an N3 pup for 9000$ then the Piet came
      up for sale for 10,000$.I told my wife,listen it's too good a deal to
      pass up.She's still mad.I have two planes and she's still pissed.I wish
      I'd kept the Lazair too and then I'd have three planes and then
      everybody could be mad at me but I'd still be flyin!If you really want
      to fly ,you'll find a way even if it means getting everybody mad at
      you.Put the house up for collateral,the car,the wife, what ever!
      
      		 
      
      	
      ________________________________
      
      
      		From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy,
      Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
      		Sent: November 17, 2006 1:23 PM
      		To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      		Subject: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is
      advice.....
      
      		 
      
      		Well I had to say something......plus hopefully start
      some controversy to get the list talking again !    :)))
      
      		 
      
      		Ben says that he wants to fly right now and I think we
      can all relate to that.  Many of us can relate to that desire from when
      we were very
      
      		young---in my case around 6 years old.   I flew kites,
      rubber band models, control line Cox models, Estes rockets, our parents
      large patio
      
      		umbrella off the roof of our garage when they weren't
      home and of course blowing up old airplane models with
      firecrackers......but it took
      
      		me until I was 29 years old before I had enough money to
      put down $ 3,500 on 1/2 ownership in an Aeronca Champ.   Now 1/2
      ownership
      
      		in a Champ is about $ 12,500 so I can understand where
      Ben is coming from so do the decent thing and BEG for a ride or hunt
      around
      
      		and find a CFI that will let you ride with him in the
      back seat while he is giving lessons in a 172.    There are ways to fly
      now, cheap..but
      
      		you have to be a scrapper and be resourceful---just like
      when you build a non-kit airplane like a Pietenpol.      
      
      		 
      
      		Mike C.
      
      		 
      
      		 
      
      		 
      
      		 
      		 
      	
      	
      	
      		www.aeroelectric.com
      		www.kitlog.com
      	
      	
      	
      	
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      		href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com
      
      href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com
      		href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com
      
      href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com
      
      href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
      h
      ref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matr
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      Here is my little insignificant story. 
      I started a Piet about 10 or 12 years ago at my home  in PA. When I opened a 
      shop in SC, I left the Piet parts in PA and  started a miniMAX at my new place
      
      in Myrtle Beach. I picked that design  because it was wood, easy to build and 
      would give me some building  experience. I even milled all my own wood for 
      it. I was about 95% done when I  had to sell the Max.
         Meanwhile, I moved back to PA and started  right in with procuring stuff 
      for the Piet. But in the mean time, I really  wanted to get in the 
      air...cheaply. Almost by accident, while checking out  Barnstormers, I hit on the
      powered 
      parachute section. I saw one for $4,900.00,  and bought it. I learned to fly 
      it in about an hour and am having a blast. Sure,  it is limited on what it can
      
      do, but what the heck...I'm in the  air! 
      Ron
      
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      I was going to make a similar suggestion, you don't have to buy an old
      certified aircraft to fly. If I wanted to have something to fly ASAP and as
      cheap as possible while I built my Piet I would buy a used PPC as you
      mentioned. No hanger rent (fits in the back of a pickup truck), maintainence
      as cheap as it gets, and a couple hundred bucks to learn to fly the thing
      versus $3500 for a Sport Pilot or $7000 for a Private Pilot license. True
      its not a 'real' airplane but it still get you off the ground. If I wanted
      something closer to a 'real' airplane and could afford more I would look for
      a used single place ultralight like a CGS Hawk or a Kolb (with folding wings
      so it will fit in my garage, wait a minute, theirs no room in my garage, I'm
      building my Piet in there, never mind, have to rent a hanger), no stinkin
      license required.
      
      Rick
      
      On 11/17/06, Pietsrneat@aol.com <Pietsrneat@aol.com> wrote:
      >
      >  *Here is my little insignificant story. *
      > *I started a Piet about 10 or 12 years ago at my home in PA. When I opened
      > a shop in SC, I left the Piet parts in PA and started a miniMAX at my new
      > place in Myrtle Beach. I picked that design because it was wood, easy to
      > build and would give me some building experience. I even milled all my own
      > wood for it. I was about 95% done when I had to sell the Max.*
      > *   Meanwhile, I moved back to PA and started right in with procuring
      > stuff for the Piet. But in the mean time, I really wanted to get in the
      > air...cheaply. Almost by accident, while checking out Barnstormers, I hit on
      > the powered parachute section. I saw one for $4,900.00, and bought it. I
      > learned to fly it in about an hour and am having a blast. Sure, it is
      > limited on what it can do, but what the heck...I'm in the air!*
      > *Ron*
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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      We have a thing up here in Canada called the Quebec garage.It doesn't
      cost much.Its made out of an aluminum frame and covered in plastic or
      tarp.Just right for a small plane with fold up wings.If you took the
      wings off a Piet it would fit right in there and you could put the wings
      on either side leaning up against the walls.A lot of guys up here use
      them right outside their garage because,yes the garage is filled with
      other goodies like snow blowers and rv's and planes being built and on
      it goes.
      
      
      ________________________________
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
      Holland
      Sent: November 17, 2006 6:10 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
      
      
      I was going to make a similar suggestion, you don't have to buy an old
      certified aircraft to fly. If I wanted to have something to fly ASAP and
      as cheap as possible while I built my Piet I would buy a used PPC as you
      mentioned. No hanger rent (fits in the back of a pickup truck),
      maintainence as cheap as it gets, and a couple hundred bucks to learn to
      fly the thing versus $3500 for a Sport Pilot or $7000 for a Private
      Pilot license. True its not a 'real' airplane but it still get you off
      the ground. If I wanted something closer to a 'real' airplane and could
      afford more I would look for a used single place ultralight like a CGS
      Hawk or a Kolb (with folding wings so it will fit in my garage, wait a
      minute, theirs no room in my garage, I'm building my Piet in there,
      never mind, have to rent a hanger), no stinkin license required. 
      
      Rick
      
      On 11/17/06, Pietsrneat@aol.com <Pietsrneat@aol.com> wrote: 
      
      Here is my little insignificant story. 
      
      I started a Piet about 10 or 12 years ago at my home in PA. When I
      opened a shop in SC, I left the Piet parts in PA and started a miniMAX
      at my new place in Myrtle Beach. I picked that design because it was
      wood, easy to build and would give me some building experience. I even
      milled all my own wood for it. I was about 95% done when I had to sell
      the Max.
      
         Meanwhile, I moved back to PA and started right in with procuring
      stuff for the Piet. But in the mean time, I really wanted to get in the
      air...cheaply. Almost by accident, while checking out Barnstormers, I
      hit on the powered parachute section. I saw one for $4,900.00, and
      bought it. I learned to fly it in about an hour and am having a blast.
      Sure, it is limited on what it can do, but what the heck...I'm in the
      air! 
      
      Ron
      
      
      www.aeroelectric.com
      http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      
      
      -- 
      
      Rick Holland
      
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
      
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      And you can put it in the trunk of a car and take it anywhere you
      like.You can even put in on the plane as baggage and go flyin anywhere
      you like.Florida,California,you name it.
      
      
      ________________________________
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      Pietsrneat@aol.com
      Sent: November 17, 2006 4:53 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
      
      
      Here is my little insignificant story. 
      
      I started a Piet about 10 or 12 years ago at my home in PA. When I
      opened a shop in SC, I left the Piet parts in PA and started a miniMAX
      at my new place in Myrtle Beach. I picked that design because it was
      wood, easy to build and would give me some building experience. I even
      milled all my own wood for it. I was about 95% done when I had to sell
      the Max.
      
         Meanwhile, I moved back to PA and started right in with procuring
      stuff for the Piet. But in the mean time, I really wanted to get in the
      air...cheaply. Almost by accident, while checking out Barnstormers, I
      hit on the powered parachute section. I saw one for $4,900.00, and
      bought it. I learned to fly it in about an hour and am having a blast.
      Sure, it is limited on what it can do, but what the heck...I'm in the
      air! 
      
      Ron
      
      
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      I thought of that but in a way she helps me get into the air money wise
      and I'm not telling her or she will leave.
      
      
      Do not archive
      
      
      ________________________________
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy,
      Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
      Sent: November 17, 2006 3:21 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: sounds like 
      
      
      you need to get rid of your wife, Harvey:))
      
      
      Mike C.
      
      
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      In a message dated 11/17/2006 7:24:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
      harvey.rule@bell.ca writes:
      
      And you can put it in  the trunk of a car and take it anywhere you like.You 
      can even put in on the  plane as baggage and go flyin anywhere you 
      like.Florida,California,you name  it.
      
      
      Mine is on a 3 wheeled cart, with a steering bar,  instrument panel and other 
      little bells and whistles. Even came with 2 helmets,  GPS, bazillion channel 
      transceiver, intercom and a trailer to haul  it!
      Ron
      
      Do not  archive
      
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| Subject:  | Re: The correct spelling is advice..... | 
      
      Ron,
      Your the kinda of guy I have a great respect for.  You do what what you 
      have to do.  I think flying a powered parachute would be a blast.  As 
      long as your flying,, who cares what your flying?  I flew ultralights 
      for many years and had a blast and as soon as I can afford it I will buy 
      another one to put next to my Piet (and it just might be a powered 
      parachute)
      Gene
      N502R
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| Subject:  | Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH | 
      
      
      John:
      We are about 100 miles west of St. Louis on the Missouri river at Jefferson 
      City, the capital of MO.
      
      As to the engine I have found that a also have a mag problem. The mag is one 
      of the old 4000 series that they just through way. There was never any 
      repair parts made for them. But we have modified the housing to make it 
      bigger for the new style condenser, and have just completed that so we 
      should be able to install the mag with in a couple of weeks and start taxi 
      tests.
      
      Chet
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
      Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:17 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH
      
      
      > <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
      >
      > Chet,
      > I live in Tennessee (half way between Nashville and Memphis) and plan on 
      > flying to Broadhead with my Piet.  Where in Missouri are you?  Any luck 
      > with the engine yet?
      > Gene
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Chet's Mail" <Chethartley1@mchsi.com>
      > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:35 PM
      > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH
      >
      >
      >> <Chethartley1@mchsi.com>
      >>
      >> John:
      >>
      >> I plan to fly MR. Hicks piet to Broadhead this year, but Missouir is a 
      >> little out of your way. But that does not mean we can not fly there 
      >> togeather.
      >>
      >> Chet Hartley
      >> N920Y
      >> ----- Original Message ----- 
      >> From: "Rock-a-Wing" <john.rocca@us.army.mil>
      >> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      >> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 6:36 PM
      >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH
      >>
      >>
      >>> <john.rocca@us.army.mil>
      >>>
      >>> Who's planning on flying their Pietenpol to Broadhead next year. God 
      >>> willing I should have my Piet ready to go and would like to make the 
      >>> trip. This would be a first time for me and I would rather fly there 
      >>> with a wingman(s)
      >>> John
      >>> Pittsburgh
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> Read this topic online here:
      >>>
      >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=73963#73963
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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      Hey Mike C
      
      How's this for being resourceful,  you have indicated that you are 
      getting too soft in your old age to fly your world famous Piet an 
      unimaginable 6 hours to Brodhead. Therefore, I hereby volunteer to fly 
      it there for you.  Then you can drive there in your air-conditioned soft 
      seated hermetically sealed car.  When you arrive (better give me a coupe 
      days head start) your plane will be waiting for you to give rides and 
      show it off to us lesser human beings still building.  Following all 
      your fun and frivolity, I will fly it back and tuck it in your hanger 
      where it will await your next flight. I'm sure my 12hr of Citabra time 
      12 years ago (good grief has it been that long) is still fresh in my 
      mind. And lest we not forget I have 1 hour and 3, count them 3 landings 
      in a Stearman, with no damage to the plane I might add. Oh sure there 
      was an instructor up front but he was only there for insurance purposes, 
      right. Plus I have 15 min in the front seat of a Jenny, now that should 
      make me well qualified as a ferry pilot.
      
      I tried the same logic on the guy with the Jenny seen at Brodhead a few 
      years ago, he chose to truck it back there. Don't know why he didn't 
      take me up on the offer? I said I would pay my own room and board. He 
      did feel sorry for me and gave me a ride in it.
      
      Chris Tracy
      Sacramento, Ca
      Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
      
      Please do NOT Archive this junk
      
 
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