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Sat 11/18/06


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 10:26 AM - Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH (shad bell)
     2. 10:26 AM - Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH (shad bell)
     3. 01:42 PM - Fuse questions... (KMHeide)
     4. 03:33 PM - Re: Fuse questions... (Rick Holland)
     5. 04:45 PM - Re: Fuse questions... ()
     6. 05:08 PM - Rotec piet (Dick Navratil)
     7. 05:30 PM - Movie (Jeff Boatright)
     8. 05:53 PM - Re: Movie (bike.mike)
     9. 05:53 PM - looking for Matco brakes (Oscar Zuniga)
    10. 06:16 PM - Re: Movie (Catdesigns)
    11. 06:30 PM - Progress and problems (Scott Schreiber)
    12. 06:32 PM - Re: Movie (Scott Schreiber)
    13. 08:42 PM - Re: Progress and problems (gcardinal)
    14. 09:29 PM - Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH (Gary Gower)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:26:13 AM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH
    John, Dad and I will more than likely be flying to Brodhead in 07. We fly out of OH71 wich is a private airport community in Central Ohio. It is on the Detroit Sectional chart under the name "Chapman Memorial". It is about 20-30 miles north of columbus. We would Love to join up and fly out togeather. From here it would be a 1 day all day flight. About 6-8 hrs flight time with fuel stops. On our last attempt we had about 7 hrs of flying but weather and meccanical trouble grounded us in Poplar Grove ILL.. I believe Mike C. will be flying out this year as well. Van Wert OH , in north western Oh would be a good rondevous point from our 3 home airports. It is easy to find too, Just follow US rt 30 west all the way, then continue to Chicago. Hope to join up with all you Ohio area pietenpol'ers Shad >> Who's planning on flying their Pietenpol to Broadhead next year. God >> willing I should have my Piet ready to go and would like to make the >> trip. This would be a first time for me and I would rather fly there with >> a wingman(s) >> John >> Pittsburgh , ---------------------------------


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    Time: 10:26:13 AM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH
    John, Dad and I will more than likely be flying to Brodhead in 07. We fly out of OH71 wich is a private airport community in Central Ohio. It is on the Detroit Sectional chart under the name "Chapman Memorial". It is about 20-30 miles north of columbus. We would Love to join up and fly out togeather. From here it would be a 1 day all day flight. About 6-8 hrs flight time with fuel stops. On our last attempt we had about 7 hrs of flying but weather and meccanical trouble grounded us in Poplar Grove ILL.. I believe Mike C. will be flying out this year as well. Van Wert OH , in north western Oh would be a good rondevous point from our 3 home airports. It is easy to find too, Just follow US rt 30 west all the way, then continue to Chicago. Hope to join up with all you Ohio area pietenpol'ers Shad >> Who's planning on flying their Pietenpol to Broadhead next year. God >> willing I should have my Piet ready to go and would like to make the >> trip. This would be a first time for me and I would rather fly there with >> a wingman(s) >> John >> Pittsburgh , ---------------------------------


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    Time: 01:42:12 PM PST US
    From: KMHeide <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Fuse questions...
    Fellow Pieters: Question.....If you are going to build a wider fuselage would you build it 3" or 4" wider? Also, are they going to be any major changes is the structural integrity, rigging etc.... Lastly, for a guy who is 6'0 and 254lbs....is the current size of the plane comfortable? what modification if any have you made to improve function and comfort of this plane design. Ken H. Fargo, ND --------------------------------- Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro-*Terms


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    Time: 03:33:37 PM PST US
    From: "Rick Holland" <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuse questions...
    Would highly recommend building a mock cockpit out of scrap wood first as discussed in the Bengelis books. Will answer all these questions and you will learn a lot which will make your fuselage go together easier with less mistakes. I ended up making mine two inches wider, leaned the seat back two inches, and raised the turtle decks a couple also. Also helps you figure the best places for controls, cables, and etc. Rick On 11/18/06, KMHeide <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Fellow Pieters: > > Question.....If you are going to build a wider fuselage would you build it > 3" or 4" wider? Also, are they going to be any major changes is the > structural integrity, rigging etc.... Lastly, for a guy who is 6'0 and > 254lbs....is the current size of the plane comfortable? what modification if > any have you made to improve function and comfort of this plane design. > > Ken H. > Fargo, ND > > Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - $150,000 loan for $579 a month. > Intro-*Terms<https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=b_rate150k&s=3968&p=5035&disc=y&vers=722> > > * > > > * > > -- Rick Holland "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"


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    Time: 04:45:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Fuse questions...
    From: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
    Absolutely no one that is much bigger than I can get into my cockpit and be at all comfortable.I did not build the plane and I am happy to say that I lucked out on it because I just fit in comfortably and I didn't even try to get in until long after I had bought the aircraft.Something for buyers to be wary of when looking out there.By the way I am 5'4" and weigh 207 lbs at this time.Heavy, yes and fully aware of that point and loosing weight since October when I weighed 222 lbs.The hard or impossible part for anyone taller than I is to get the knees past the instrument panel.It is built like a fighter plane and very compact.I have noticed that I will have to tilt my instrument panel back or pull the bottom out about an inch or two in order to see the instruments properly.I am too high in the torso to see it the way I should.Part of a project for next spring as well as adding a temperature gauge to one of my cylinder heads.I also found out that my altimeter gauge is busted so I have to replace that as well.I also have acquired an electrical clock for an aircraft which I will install with a switch to the battery .I think it would also be a good idea to install a secondary switch under the instrument panel out of sight in order to defeat the starter button.You know how people are at flyins.They like to push buttons and throw switch and if the right switches are thrown and the proper button is pushed and someone is near the prop then someone may loose a head or some other part of their anatomy and that would be tragic.Not to mention the law suit that would incure. One of the problems of having an electric start in an open cockpit.No door to lock. ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KMHeide Sent: November 18, 2006 4:42 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuse questions... Fellow Pieters: Question.....If you are going to build a wider fuselage would you build it 3" or 4" wider? Also, are they going to be any major changes is the structural integrity, rigging etc.... Lastly, for a guy who is 6'0 and 254lbs....is the current size of the plane comfortable? what modification if any have you made to improve function and comfort of this plane design. Ken H. Fargo, ND Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro-*Terms <https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm= y&s earch=b_rate150k&s=3968&p=5035&disc=y&vers=722>


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    Time: 05:08:42 PM PST US
    From: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Rotec piet
    As things are a bit slow on the list, here is an update on my new Piet. The tail is finished with the special batch of Poly Tone that Stits made for me. I wanted it to look like leather stretched over a lamp shade and I am happy with the result, it is transluscent. I fit the wing center section on last week with temp fittings. Yesterday, I built the bellcrank assy and it will be installed this week. I am going with external rigging on the bellcrank. The wings are almost ready for covering, just some minor puttering left. Rotec e-mailed me last week. They say there are 3 other Piets now under construction. I know of 1 in N. Florida who is on the list here. Has anyone heard of anyone else? I'm still hoping mine is done for Brodhead. Dick N.


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    Time: 05:30:52 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Boatright <jboatri@emory.edu>
    Subject: Movie
    As Dick says, since things are slow on the list, here's a video I made this morning of a circuit of my home airport, Lenora (2GA9). I haven't figured out how to have YouTube videos come out top quality (the original looks much better), but you'll get the idea: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHOGRtOpHMs Just a bit of fluff for those who didn't get to go Pieting today. Jeff


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    Time: 05:53:31 PM PST US
    From: "bike.mike" <bike.mike@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: Movie
    The video is inspiring; it's the soundtrack that needs a little work. Couldn't hear the engine music over the wind blast. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Boatright" <jboatri@emory.edu> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:30 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Movie > > As Dick says, since things are slow on the list, here's a video I > made this morning of a circuit of my home airport, Lenora (2GA9). I > haven't figured out how to have YouTube videos come out top quality > (the original looks much better), but you'll get the idea: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHOGRtOpHMs > > Just a bit of fluff for those who didn't get to go Pieting today. > > Jeff > >


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    Time: 05:53:31 PM PST US
    From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: looking for Matco brakes
    I'm looking for a pair of new (or like new) Matco MC-5 brake masters. If you have a pair for sale, email me off-list please. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ View Athletes Collections with Live Search http://sportmaps.live.com/index.html?source=hmemailtaglinenov06&FORM=MGAC01


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    Time: 06:16:21 PM PST US
    From: "Catdesigns" <catdesigns@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Movie
    Nice flight, Jeff. Send me you movies on CD and I can post them on my website if you want. I just found this good one by Grant Maclaren http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2Ch9QhwyBY&mode=related&search Chris Tracy Sacramento, Ca Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Boatright" <jboatri@emory.edu> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:30 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Movie > > As Dick says, since things are slow on the list, here's a video I made > this morning of a circuit of my home airport, Lenora (2GA9). I haven't > figured out how to have YouTube videos come out top quality (the original > looks much better), but you'll get the idea: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHOGRtOpHMs > > Just a bit of fluff for those who didn't get to go Pieting today. > > Jeff > > >


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    Time: 06:30:47 PM PST US
    From: "Scott Schreiber" <got22b@subarubrat.com>
    Subject: Progress and problems
    The good news is I am making some progress. I got a decent jumpstart when I bought a tailfeathers set and some ribs for next to nothing from a great builder. I also started on the fuselage sides, I have one just about complete. Giant scale R/C experience is helping me a great deal more than I thought. I have a few pics up at my site: http://www.subarubrat.com/Pietenpol.htm The problems, well they all come from Aircraft Spruce (the company). I had to go around and around with them on various issus. Some of them being all items other than one being reported as in stock and shipping from the East coast when that last item came off back order. Later it was all going to ship from West at a higher rate. They finally shipped it as promised but when the order arrived they had forgotten the capstrip. They found where they had messed up and shipped it, however they shipped the wrong size and I have 500ft of useless capstrip coming. The spruce kit advertised as being complete (other than having to order the capstrip seperatly) does not include the leading or trailing edge stock as well as some other stock. The fuse kit does not include enough of one size and I have about 6 pieces that don't match any size called for in the plans or on their cut sheet they sent with the kit. I suppose I have to call them back Monday and try to get the missing pieces and capstrip re-done, but honestly I am tired of calling them for problem after problem. And one last Aircraft Spruce problem, they substitute 3/4 spars for the 1in spars in the plans saying that some company told them it was OK. Even if this is true, and I don't trust this much, all the measurements and clearances (rib spar slots, metal fittings etc.) are intended for the spar thickness called for in the plans. I am not sure I like the idea of all those changes to the plans because of some hearsay source. Anyone else been through this? -Scott


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    Time: 06:32:13 PM PST US
    From: "Scott Schreiber" <got22b@subarubrat.com>
    Subject: Re: Movie
    Inspirational! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catdesigns" <catdesigns@comcast.net> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 9:20 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Movie > <catdesigns@comcast.net> > > Nice flight, Jeff. Send me you movies on CD and I can post them on my > website if you want. > > I just found this good one by Grant Maclaren > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2Ch9QhwyBY&mode=related&search > > Chris Tracy > Sacramento, Ca > Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Boatright" <jboatri@emory.edu> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:30 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Movie > > >> >> As Dick says, since things are slow on the list, here's a video I made >> this morning of a circuit of my home airport, Lenora (2GA9). I haven't >> figured out how to have YouTube videos come out top quality (the original >> looks much better), but you'll get the idea: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHOGRtOpHMs >> >> Just a bit of fluff for those who didn't get to go Pieting today. >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 08:42:29 PM PST US
    From: "gcardinal" <gcardinal@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Progress and problems
    Scott, 3/4 inch solid spars are perfectly acceptable substitutions for the routed 1 inch spars. Use them without worries. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Schreiber And one last Aircraft Spruce problem, they substitute 3/4 spars for the 1in spars in the plans saying that some company told them it was OK. Even if this is true, and I don't trust this much, all the measurements and clearances (rib spar slots, metal fittings etc.) are intended for the spar thickness called for in the plans. I am not sure I like the idea of all those changes to the plans because of some hearsay source. Anyone else been through this? -Scott


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    Time: 09:29:35 PM PST US
    From: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH
    Hello Shad, Just a side note... No photo of your airport in AirNav... http://www.airnav.com/airport/OH71 Probably you can take one any flying day and send it to them... Saludos Gary Gower. Do not archive. shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote: John, Dad and I will more than likely be flying to Brodhead in 07. We fly out of OH71 wich is a private airport community in Central Ohio. It is on the Detroit Sectional chart under the name "Chapman Memorial". It is about 20-30 miles north of columbus. We would Love to join up and fly out togeather. From here it would be a 1 day all day flight. About 6-8 hrs flight time with fuel stops. On our last attempt we had about 7 hrs of flying but weather and meccanical trouble grounded us in Poplar Grove ILL.. I believe Mike C. will be flying out this year as well. Van Wert OH , in north western Oh would be a good rondevous point from our 3 home airports. It is easy to find too, Just follow US rt 30 west all the way, then continue to Chicago. Hope to join up with all you Ohio area pietenpol'ers Shad >> Who's planning on flying their Pietenpol to Broadhead next year. God >> willing I should have my Piet ready to go and would like to make the >> trip. This would be a first time for me and I would rather fly there with >> a wingman(s) >> John >> Pittsburgh , --------------------------------- Check out --------------------------------- Don't quit your job - take classes online and earn your degree in 1 year. Start Today




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