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1. 10:26 AM - Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH (shad bell)
2. 10:26 AM - Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH (shad bell)
3. 01:42 PM - Fuse questions... (KMHeide)
4. 03:33 PM - Re: Fuse questions... (Rick Holland)
5. 04:45 PM - Re: Fuse questions... ()
6. 05:08 PM - Rotec piet (Dick Navratil)
7. 05:30 PM - Movie (Jeff Boatright)
8. 05:53 PM - Re: Movie (bike.mike)
9. 05:53 PM - looking for Matco brakes (Oscar Zuniga)
10. 06:16 PM - Re: Movie (Catdesigns)
11. 06:30 PM - Progress and problems (Scott Schreiber)
12. 06:32 PM - Re: Movie (Scott Schreiber)
13. 08:42 PM - Re: Progress and problems (gcardinal)
14. 09:29 PM - Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH (Gary Gower)
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Subject: | Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH |
John, Dad and I will more than likely be flying to Brodhead in 07. We fly out
of OH71 wich is a private airport community in Central Ohio. It is on the Detroit
Sectional chart under the name "Chapman Memorial". It is about 20-30 miles
north of columbus. We would Love to join up and fly out togeather. From here
it would be a 1 day all day flight. About 6-8 hrs flight time with fuel stops.
On our last attempt we had about 7 hrs of flying but weather and meccanical
trouble grounded us in Poplar Grove ILL.. I believe Mike C. will be flying
out this year as well. Van Wert OH , in north western Oh would be a good rondevous
point from our 3 home airports. It is easy to find too, Just follow
US rt 30 west all the way, then continue to Chicago.
Hope to join up with all you Ohio area pietenpol'ers
Shad
>> Who's planning on flying their Pietenpol to Broadhead next year. God
>> willing I should have my Piet ready to go and would like to make the
>> trip. This would be a first time for me and I would rather fly there with
>> a wingman(s)
>> John
>> Pittsburgh
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Subject: | Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH |
John, Dad and I will more than likely be flying to Brodhead in 07. We fly out
of OH71 wich is a private airport community in Central Ohio. It is on the Detroit
Sectional chart under the name "Chapman Memorial". It is about 20-30 miles
north of columbus. We would Love to join up and fly out togeather. From here
it would be a 1 day all day flight. About 6-8 hrs flight time with fuel stops.
On our last attempt we had about 7 hrs of flying but weather and meccanical
trouble grounded us in Poplar Grove ILL.. I believe Mike C. will be flying
out this year as well. Van Wert OH , in north western Oh would be a good rondevous
point from our 3 home airports. It is easy to find too, Just follow
US rt 30 west all the way, then continue to Chicago.
Hope to join up with all you Ohio area pietenpol'ers
Shad
>> Who's planning on flying their Pietenpol to Broadhead next year. God
>> willing I should have my Piet ready to go and would like to make the
>> trip. This would be a first time for me and I would rather fly there with
>> a wingman(s)
>> John
>> Pittsburgh
,
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Subject: | Fuse questions... |
Fellow Pieters:
Question.....If you are going to build a wider fuselage would you build it 3"
or 4" wider? Also, are they going to be any major changes is the structural
integrity, rigging etc.... Lastly, for a guy who is 6'0 and 254lbs....is the current
size of the plane comfortable? what modification if any have you made to
improve function and comfort of this plane design.
Ken H.
Fargo, ND
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Subject: | Re: Fuse questions... |
Would highly recommend building a mock cockpit out of scrap wood first as
discussed in the Bengelis books. Will answer all these questions and you
will learn a lot which will make your fuselage go together easier with less
mistakes. I ended up making mine two inches wider, leaned the seat back two
inches, and raised the turtle decks a couple also. Also helps you figure the
best places for controls, cables, and etc.
Rick
On 11/18/06, KMHeide <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Fellow Pieters:
>
> Question.....If you are going to build a wider fuselage would you build it
> 3" or 4" wider? Also, are they going to be any major changes is the
> structural integrity, rigging etc.... Lastly, for a guy who is 6'0 and
> 254lbs....is the current size of the plane comfortable? what modification if
> any have you made to improve function and comfort of this plane design.
>
> Ken H.
> Fargo, ND
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Subject: | Fuse questions... |
Absolutely no one that is much bigger than I can get into my cockpit and
be at all comfortable.I did not build the plane and I am happy to say
that I lucked out on it because I just fit in comfortably and I didn't
even try to get in until long after I had bought the aircraft.Something
for buyers to be wary of when looking out there.By the way I am 5'4" and
weigh 207 lbs at this time.Heavy, yes and fully aware of that point and
loosing weight since October when I weighed 222 lbs.The hard or
impossible part for anyone taller than I is to get the knees past the
instrument panel.It is built like a fighter plane and very compact.I
have noticed that I will have to tilt my instrument panel back or pull
the bottom out about an inch or two in order to see the instruments
properly.I am too high in the torso to see it the way I should.Part of a
project for next spring as well as adding a temperature gauge to one of
my cylinder heads.I also found out that my altimeter gauge is busted so
I have to replace that as well.I also have acquired an electrical clock
for an aircraft which I will install with a switch to the battery .I
think it would also be a good idea to install a secondary switch under
the instrument panel out of sight in order to defeat the starter
button.You know how people are at flyins.They like to push buttons and
throw switch and if the right switches are thrown and the proper button
is pushed and someone is near the prop then someone may loose a head or
some other part of their anatomy and that would be tragic.Not to mention
the law suit that would incure. One of the problems of having an
electric start in an open cockpit.No door to lock.
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KMHeide
Sent: November 18, 2006 4:42 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuse questions...
Fellow Pieters:
Question.....If you are going to build a wider fuselage would you build
it 3" or 4" wider? Also, are they going to be any major changes is the
structural integrity, rigging etc.... Lastly, for a guy who is 6'0 and
254lbs....is the current size of the plane comfortable? what
modification if any have you made to improve function and comfort of
this plane design.
Ken H.
Fargo, ND
Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - $150,000 loan for $579 a month.
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As things are a bit slow on the list, here is an update on my new Piet.
The tail is finished with the special batch of Poly Tone that Stits made
for me. I wanted it to look like leather stretched over a lamp shade
and I am happy with the result, it is transluscent. I fit the wing
center section on last week with temp fittings. Yesterday, I built the
bellcrank assy and it will be installed this week. I am going with
external rigging on the bellcrank. The wings are almost ready for
covering, just some minor puttering left.
Rotec e-mailed me last week. They say there are 3 other Piets now under
construction. I know of 1 in N. Florida who is on the list here. Has
anyone heard of anyone else?
I'm still hoping mine is done for Brodhead.
Dick N.
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As Dick says, since things are slow on the list, here's a video I
made this morning of a circuit of my home airport, Lenora (2GA9). I
haven't figured out how to have YouTube videos come out top quality
(the original looks much better), but you'll get the idea:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHOGRtOpHMs
Just a bit of fluff for those who didn't get to go Pieting today.
Jeff
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The video is inspiring; it's the soundtrack that needs a little work.
Couldn't hear the engine music over the wind blast.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Boatright" <jboatri@emory.edu>
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:30 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Movie
>
> As Dick says, since things are slow on the list, here's a video I
> made this morning of a circuit of my home airport, Lenora (2GA9). I
> haven't figured out how to have YouTube videos come out top quality
> (the original looks much better), but you'll get the idea:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHOGRtOpHMs
>
> Just a bit of fluff for those who didn't get to go Pieting today.
>
> Jeff
>
>
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Subject: | looking for Matco brakes |
I'm looking for a pair of new (or like new) Matco MC-5 brake masters. If
you have a pair for sale, email me off-list please.
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Nice flight, Jeff. Send me you movies on CD and I can post them on my
website if you want.
I just found this good one by Grant Maclaren
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2Ch9QhwyBY&mode=related&search
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Boatright" <jboatri@emory.edu>
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:30 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Movie
>
> As Dick says, since things are slow on the list, here's a video I made
> this morning of a circuit of my home airport, Lenora (2GA9). I haven't
> figured out how to have YouTube videos come out top quality (the original
> looks much better), but you'll get the idea:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHOGRtOpHMs
>
> Just a bit of fluff for those who didn't get to go Pieting today.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
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Subject: | Progress and problems |
The good news is I am making some progress. I got a decent jumpstart
when I bought a tailfeathers set and some ribs for next to nothing from
a great builder. I also started on the fuselage sides, I have one just
about complete. Giant scale R/C experience is helping me a great deal
more than I thought. I have a few pics up at my site:
http://www.subarubrat.com/Pietenpol.htm
The problems, well they all come from Aircraft Spruce (the company). I
had to go around and around with them on various issus. Some of them
being all items other than one being reported as in stock and shipping
from the East coast when that last item came off back order. Later it
was all going to ship from West at a higher rate. They finally shipped
it as promised but when the order arrived they had forgotten the
capstrip. They found where they had messed up and shipped it, however
they shipped the wrong size and I have 500ft of useless capstrip coming.
The spruce kit advertised as being complete (other than having to order
the capstrip seperatly) does not include the leading or trailing edge
stock as well as some other stock. The fuse kit does not include enough
of one size and I have about 6 pieces that don't match any size called
for in the plans or on their cut sheet they sent with the kit. I suppose
I have to call them back Monday and try to get the missing pieces and
capstrip re-done, but honestly I am tired of calling them for problem
after problem.
And one last Aircraft Spruce problem, they substitute 3/4 spars for the
1in spars in the plans saying that some company told them it was OK.
Even if this is true, and I don't trust this much, all the measurements
and clearances (rib spar slots, metal fittings etc.) are intended for
the spar thickness called for in the plans. I am not sure I like the
idea of all those changes to the plans because of some hearsay source.
Anyone else been through this?
-Scott
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Inspirational!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Catdesigns" <catdesigns@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Movie
> <catdesigns@comcast.net>
>
> Nice flight, Jeff. Send me you movies on CD and I can post them on my
> website if you want.
>
> I just found this good one by Grant Maclaren
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2Ch9QhwyBY&mode=related&search
>
> Chris Tracy
> Sacramento, Ca
> Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Boatright" <jboatri@emory.edu>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:30 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Movie
>
>
>>
>> As Dick says, since things are slow on the list, here's a video I made
>> this morning of a circuit of my home airport, Lenora (2GA9). I haven't
>> figured out how to have YouTube videos come out top quality (the original
>> looks much better), but you'll get the idea:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHOGRtOpHMs
>>
>> Just a bit of fluff for those who didn't get to go Pieting today.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Progress and problems |
Scott,
3/4 inch solid spars are perfectly acceptable substitutions for the
routed 1 inch spars.
Use them without worries.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Schreiber
And one last Aircraft Spruce problem, they substitute 3/4 spars for
the 1in spars in the plans saying that some company told them it was OK.
Even if this is true, and I don't trust this much, all the measurements
and clearances (rib spar slots, metal fittings etc.) are intended for
the spar thickness called for in the plans. I am not sure I like the
idea of all those changes to the plans because of some hearsay source.
Anyone else been through this?
-Scott
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Subject: | Re: Who's flying to Broadhead 07 from PA, WV, OH |
Hello Shad,
Just a side note... No photo of your airport in AirNav...
http://www.airnav.com/airport/OH71
Probably you can take one any flying day and send it to them...
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Do not archive.
shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote: John, Dad and I will more than likely
be flying to Brodhead in 07. We fly out of OH71 wich is a private airport community
in Central Ohio. It is on the Detroit Sectional chart under the name "Chapman
Memorial". It is about 20-30 miles north of columbus. We would Love
to join up and fly out togeather. From here it would be a 1 day all day flight.
About 6-8 hrs flight time with fuel stops. On our last attempt we had about
7 hrs of flying but weather and meccanical trouble grounded us in Poplar Grove
ILL.. I believe Mike C. will be flying out this year as well. Van Wert OH
, in north western Oh would be a good rondevous point from our 3 home airports.
It is easy to find too, Just follow US rt 30 west all the way, then continue
to Chicago.
Hope to join up with all you Ohio area pietenpol'ers
Shad
>> Who's planning on flying their Pietenpol to Broadhead next year. God
>> willing I should have my Piet ready to go and would like to make the
>> trip. This would be a first time for me and I would rather fly there with
>> a wingman(s)
>> John
>> Pittsburgh
,
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