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0. 12:10 AM - Why? [Please Read] (Matt Dralle)
1. 03:23 AM - Re: The correct spelling is advice..... (Pietsrneat@aol.com)
2. 04:01 AM - spelling police (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
3. 04:09 AM - You Tube and Google Video (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
4. 06:04 AM - Re: The correct spelling is advice..... (Bill Church)
5. 07:25 AM - Re: Rotec piet (Dave Abramson)
6. 07:58 AM - Re: The correct spelling is advice..... ()
7. 08:03 AM - Re: Oklahoma Fly-in (Steve Ruse)
8. 08:31 AM - Re: Fuse questions... (Phillips, Jack)
9. 08:33 AM - Re: The correct spelling is advice..... (DJ Vegh)
10. 09:13 AM - website (Ben Ramler)
11. 09:20 AM - Re: The correct spelling is advice..... (Bill Church)
12. 10:29 AM - Re: The correct spelling is advice..... (Clif Dawson)
13. 10:31 AM - Re: The correct spelling (bike.mike)
14. 11:20 AM - Re: The correct spelling is advice..... (walt evans)
15. 11:43 AM - Re: Fuse questions... (walt evans)
16. 12:35 PM - Re: The correct spelling is advice..... (walt evans)
17. 12:35 PM - flies (walt evans)
18. 01:59 PM - Re: The correct spelling is advice..... (Steve Glass)
19. 03:26 PM - Re: The correct spelling is advice..... (walt evans)
20. 04:15 PM - Re: Oklahoma Fly-in (Rcaprd@aol.com)
21. 05:17 PM - Re: Progress and problems (shad bell)
22. 05:46 PM - Ohio area pietenpol gathering (shad bell)
23. 06:00 PM - Re: Gap Seal Tape (Pietsrneat@aol.com)
24. 06:17 PM - Re: The correct spelling is advice..... (Pietsrneat@AOL.COM)
25. 06:54 PM - Re: The correct spelling is advice..... (Clif Dawson)
26. 07:18 PM - Re: Rotec piet (Dick Navratil)
27. 07:19 PM - Re: Ohio area pietenpol gathering (Don Emch)
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| Subject: | Why? [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
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| Subject: | Re: The correct spelling is advice..... |
In a message dated 11/19/2006 7:31:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Pietsrneat@aol.com writes:
I looked up (like I always do when any aircraft flies by) and what do you
think it was?Yes, a Pietenpol!
"Flies" by? Sometimes I crack myself up.
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Awe common', Oscar, I kant possubly ketch evry mispilling on the list.
My reeding isn't that
good.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | You Tube and Google Video |
Man guys, Jeff Boatright is absolutely right about You Tube and Google
Video being addictive. There is just about anything that might
interest you
on there. I like to type in things that I have not been able to try
to do yet---things like hang gliding, parasailing, ski jumping, and
more. I've never driven
the 7 mile bridge in the Keys so whala, there's a couple who posted a
view of driving that stretch. A fun one to type in in r/c crash or
r/c accident.
Some of the footage these r/c guys (like our own DJ Vegh) shoot from
their aerial platforms is just great----with side to side pan
capabilities and all.
You like Model A's ? Type in Model a running or Model A start up.
Same for Corvair's, Subaru's, you name it. You can spend mucho
amounts of
time on those two web sites !
Mike C.
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| Subject: | The correct spelling is advice..... |
Okay, I don't get it. What's so funny about that?
Bill
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Pietsrneat@aol.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
In a message dated 11/19/2006 7:31:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Pietsrneat@aol.com writes:
I looked up (like I always do when any aircraft flies by) and
what do you think it was?Yes, a Pietenpol!
"Flies" by? Sometimes I crack myself up.
do not archive
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Hi Dick!
Do you have any photos of your engine install? I am thinking to use a Rotec
Radial on my Piet too!
Best Regards,
Dave Abramson
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dick Navratil
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:07 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rotec piet
As things are a bit slow on the list, here is an update on my new Piet.
The tail is finished with the special batch of Poly Tone that Stits made for
me. I wanted it to look like leather stretched over a lamp shade and I am
happy with the result, it is transluscent. I fit the wing center section on
last week with temp fittings. Yesterday, I built the bellcrank assy and it
will be installed this week. I am going with external rigging on the
bellcrank. The wings are almost ready for covering, just some minor
puttering left.
Rotec e-mailed me last week. They say there are 3 other Piets now under
construction. I know of 1 in N. Florida who is on the list here. Has
anyone heard of anyone else?
I'm still hoping mine is done for Brodhead.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | The correct spelling is advice..... |
The spelling should be,flys by not flies by.We all know what he ment and
I'm not one for pointing out spelling mistakes because I sometimes do
the same thing with my little fat fingers and sometimes you Yanks and
Rebs spell things different than we Canucks do.But I do see the humour
in what he wrote afterwards.(humor,humour)example. By the way ,flys is
flying and flies are those pesky little bugs that drive you nuts in the
summer.See the joke now?
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Church
Sent: November 20, 2006 9:03 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
Okay, I don't get it. What's so funny about that?
Bill
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Pietsrneat@aol.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
In a message dated 11/19/2006 7:31:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Pietsrneat@aol.com writes:
I looked up (like I always do when any aircraft flies by) and
what do you think it was?Yes, a Pietenpol!
"Flies" by? Sometimes I crack myself up.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Oklahoma Fly-in |
I hope you can make the next one, we are looking at February as a
possibility. We desperately need a smoking Piet here!
Yes, that is a comm antenna that I installed on the bottom of the
nose. I wanted it inside the fuse, and may do that eventually, but it
works great in that location as there was already sheet metal for a
ground plane there. I have transmitted up to 90 miles air to air
using my 5 watt handheld! I can regularly transmit 40 miles air to
air. I made it with some brass brazing rod and nylon insulators from
Home Depot, and a pre-terminated RG-58 cable from the local
electronics shop. Total cost was under $10!
Steve
Quoting Rcaprd@aol.com:
> In a message dated 11/19/2006 9:14:02 PM Central Standard Time,
> steve@wotelectronics.com writes:
> A few pictures from the fly-in. You local guys have to make the next one,
> this was really a lot of fun.
> Hey Steve,
> I'm going to make it down there one of these days. I had to work this
> weekend...kinda chilly for that flight anyways.
> Great pictures !!
> Is that a big long com antenna sticking down in front of the landing gear ?
>
> Chuck G.
>
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| Subject: | Fuse questions... |
A couple of concerns, Ken,
I made my Pietenpol 1" wider than plans, and used the long fuselage
plans. The result is a pretty heavy Pietenpol (empty weight 745 lbs),
which climbs even worse than usual for a Piet. There are a couple of
problems with the long, wide fuselage. The first is weight. SOme years
ago, someone on this list compiled a list of Pietenpols at Brodhead,
comparing their empty weights and CG locations. Every one of the long
fuselage Piets came in at over 700 lbs, and a couple were over 800 lbs.
You wouldn't think that adding 9" or so would add 50 to 100 lbs, but it
seems to do so. Making it wider adds substantial weight as well. The
other problem with a wider fuselage is in expense. With a 24" wide
fuselage, you can use a single sheet of plywood ripped lengthwise for
the floorboards and firewall. If you make it wider, you will use a lot
more plywood, with substantial waste.
The Pietenpol is supposed to have a gross weight of about 1050 lbs. If
you weigh 254 lbs, and carry 10 gallons of gas, your airplane can only
weigh 736 lbs EMPTY, and you'd probably better not plan on carrying any
passengers. I have flown mine with myself and a 205 lb passenger, and
15 gallons of fuel on board, for a gross weight of 1,240 lbs. It flew,
but I was glad we were flying off a 6,000' paved runway. Climb rate was
a shade under 100 feet per minute.
If I were to build another one, I would build the short fuselage and
keep it standard width. I'm 6'2 and 200 lbs, and I've flown Mike Cuy's
standard width, short fuse Piet and found it nearly as comfortable as my
own, with a better climb rate.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KMHeide
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 4:42 PM
To: Pietenpol
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuse questions...
Fellow Pieters:
Question.....If you are going to build a wider fuselage would
you build it 3" or 4" wider? Also, are they going to be any major
changes is the structural integrity, rigging etc.... Lastly, for a guy
who is 6'0 and 254lbs....is the current size of the plane comfortable?
what modification if any have you made to improve function and comfort
of this plane design.
Ken H.
Fargo, ND
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| Subject: | Re: The correct spelling is advice..... |
If flies in the cockpit fly, does it reduce the flying weight of your
plane as it flys?
----- Original Message -----
From: harvey.rule@bell.ca
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
The spelling should be,flys by not flies by.We all know what he ment
and I'm not one for pointing out spelling mistakes because I sometimes
do the same thing with my little fat fingers and sometimes you Yanks and
Rebs spell things different than we Canucks do.But I do see the humour
in what he wrote afterwards.(humor,humour)example. By the way ,flys is
flying and flies are those pesky little bugs that drive you nuts in the
summer.See the joke now?
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Church
Sent: November 20, 2006 9:03 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
Okay, I don't get it. What's so funny about that?
Bill
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Pietsrneat@aol.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 6:31 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
In a message dated 11/19/2006 7:31:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Pietsrneat@aol.com writes:
I looked up (like I always do when any aircraft flies by) and what
do you think it was?Yes, a Pietenpol!
"Flies" by? Sometimes I crack myself up.
do not archive
www.aeroelectric.comwww.kitlog.comhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet
enpol-List
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Hello everyone,
I was just wondering if anyone would object to using 2 pictures from the pictures
gallery to put on my website! I will give the URL here on the forum when I
am ready!
thanks,
Ben R.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Subject: | The correct spelling is advice..... |
Sorry Harvey, but flys just isn't proper English (in the U.S., nor in
Canada). (here's a link to a quick explanation)
http://wsu.edu/~brians/errors/flys.html
Honestly, I didn't get the joke. I just didn't see what was funny about
what was written. I wasn't trying to be a nit-picker. For example, I
wouldn't point out that you typed "ment" instead of "meant" in your
posting. (sorry, couldn't resist)
What IS funny is that now we are finding humour (humor) in things that
are actually grammatically correct, and trying to "correct" them.
I know my fingers don't always land on the keyboard where they were
intended to land, but I always give my message a quick read before I
spit it out into cyberspace. Maybe we should all make a habit of using
the spell-checker before we hit "send".
By the way, I'm pretty sure those pesky little bugs that drive ME nuts
in the summer are called mosquitoes.
Bill
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
harvey.rule@bell.ca
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
The spelling should be,flys by not flies by.We all know what he ment and
I'm not one for pointing out spelling mistakes because I sometimes do
the same thing with my little fat fingers and sometimes you Yanks and
Rebs spell things different than we Canucks do.But I do see the humour
in what he wrote afterwards.(humor,humour)example. By the way ,flys is
flying and flies are those pesky little bugs that drive you nuts in the
summer.See the joke now?
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Church
Sent: November 20, 2006 9:03 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
Okay, I don't get it. What's so funny about that?
Bill
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Pietsrneat@aol.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
In a message dated 11/19/2006 7:31:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Pietsrneat@aol.com writes:
I looked up (like I always do when any aircraft flies by) and
what do you think it was?Yes, a Pietenpol!
"Flies" by? Sometimes I crack myself up.
do not archive
www.aeroelectric.com
www.kitlog.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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| Subject: | Re: The correct spelling is advice..... |
I usually swat the little beggars! Ron just watches em
fly by. Hahaha
Clif
Okay, I don't get it. What's so funny about that?
Bill
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"Flies" by? Sometimes I crack myself up.
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| Subject: | Re: The correct spelling |
Their our to many possible errors in are language two go too. People
should remember there education when they go they're.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Church
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:19 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
Sorry Harvey, but flys just isn't proper English (in the U.S., nor in
Canada). (here's a link to a quick explanation)
[snip]
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| Subject: | Re: The correct spelling is advice..... |
I think "flies" is correct
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: harvey.rule@bell.ca
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 10:57 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
The spelling should be,flys by not flies by.We all know what he ment
and I'm not one for pointing out spelling mistakes because I sometimes
do the same thing with my little fat fingers and sometimes you Yanks and
Rebs spell things different than we Canucks do.But I do see the humour
in what he wrote afterwards.(humor,humour)example. By the way ,flys is
flying and flies are those pesky little bugs that drive you nuts in the
summer.See the joke now?
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Church
Sent: November 20, 2006 9:03 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
Okay, I don't get it. What's so funny about that?
Bill
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Pietsrneat@aol.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 6:31 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
In a message dated 11/19/2006 7:31:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Pietsrneat@aol.com writes:
I looked up (like I always do when any aircraft flies by) and what
do you think it was?Yes, a Pietenpol!
"Flies" by? Sometimes I crack myself up.
do not archive
www.aeroelectric.comwww.kitlog.comhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet
enpol-List
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| Subject: | Re: Fuse questions... |
MessageJack,
I don't agree. I built the long fuse with an A-65 and 99.9% to plans.
My empty weight was 595#.
I was lucky to have a Mentor that was a stickler for not adding
anything.
I can't believe that 1" of 1/4 plywood and various fuse sticks account
for 100#. Think you must have beefed here and there, and added one too
many goodies.
You know the old saying,,,"thinking of adding something that's not on
the plans? Throw it up,,,if it comes back down,,,leave it off"
Our strip is 2,550ft of asphalt. The Regs say that you have to be 400'
and to the end of the runway before you make your turn climbing out.
With just me (6'3" 210#) and 1/2 gas load I'll pass 400' before
reaching the end of the runway.
Now put my friend Bob in the front and it climbs kind of like a cub.
Hard to imagine a Piet built 200# heavy, and that would be a climbout
with just me.
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: Phillips, Jack
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fuse questions...
A couple of concerns, Ken,
I made my Pietenpol 1" wider than plans, and used the long fuselage
plans. The result is a pretty heavy Pietenpol (empty weight 745 lbs),
which climbs even worse than usual for a Piet. There are a couple of
problems with the long, wide fuselage. The first is weight. SOme years
ago, someone on this list compiled a list of Pietenpols at Brodhead,
comparing their empty weights and CG locations. Every one of the long
fuselage Piets came in at over 700 lbs, and a couple were over 800 lbs.
You wouldn't think that adding 9" or so would add 50 to 100 lbs, but it
seems to do so. Making it wider adds substantial weight as well. The
other problem with a wider fuselage is in expense. With a 24" wide
fuselage, you can use a single sheet of plywood ripped lengthwise for
the floorboards and firewall. If you make it wider, you will use a lot
more plywood, with substantial waste.
The Pietenpol is supposed to have a gross weight of about 1050 lbs.
If you weigh 254 lbs, and carry 10 gallons of gas, your airplane can
only weigh 736 lbs EMPTY, and you'd probably better not plan on carrying
any passengers. I have flown mine with myself and a 205 lb passenger,
and 15 gallons of fuel on board, for a gross weight of 1,240 lbs. It
flew, but I was glad we were flying off a 6,000' paved runway. Climb
rate was a shade under 100 feet per minute.
If I were to build another one, I would build the short fuselage and
keep it standard width. I'm 6'2 and 200 lbs, and I've flown Mike Cuy's
standard width, short fuse Piet and found it nearly as comfortable as my
own, with a better climb rate.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KMHeide
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 4:42 PM
To: Pietenpol
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuse questions...
Fellow Pieters:
Question.....If you are going to build a wider fuselage would you
build it 3" or 4" wider? Also, are they going to be any major changes
is the structural integrity, rigging etc.... Lastly, for a guy who is
6'0 and 254lbs....is the current size of the plane comfortable? what
modification if any have you made to improve function and comfort of
this plane design.
Ken H.
Fargo, ND
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from,,,
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fly
see #9.
It is correct!
walt evans
NX140DL
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fly1 /fla?/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[flahy]
Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, flew or, for 11, 19,
flied, flown, fly?ing, noun, plural flies.
-verb (used without object) 1. to move through the air using wings.
2. to be carried through the air by the wind or any other force or
agency: bits of paper flying about.
3. to float or flutter in the air: flags flying in the breeze.
4. to travel in an aircraft or spacecraft.
5. to move suddenly and quickly; start unexpectedly: He flew from
the room.
6. to change rapidly and unexpectedly from one state or position
to another: The door flew open.
7. to flee; escape.
8. to travel in space: The probe will fly past the planet.
9. to move or pass swiftly: How time flies!
10. to move with an aggressive surge: A mother fox will fly at
anyone approaching her kits.
11. Baseball. a. to bat a fly ball: He flied into right field.
b. to fly out.
12. Informal. to be acceptable, believable, or feasible: It seemed
like a good idea, but it
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: harvey.rule@bell.ca
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 10:57 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
The spelling should be,flys by not flies by.We all know what he ment
and I'm not one for pointing out spelling mistakes because I sometimes
do the same thing with my little fat fingers and sometimes you Yanks and
Rebs spell things different than we Canucks do.But I do see the humour
in what he wrote afterwards.(humor,humour)example. By the way ,flys is
flying and flies are those pesky little bugs that drive you nuts in the
summer.See the joke now?
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Church
Sent: November 20, 2006 9:03 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
Okay, I don't get it. What's so funny about that?
Bill
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Pietsrneat@aol.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 6:31 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
In a message dated 11/19/2006 7:31:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Pietsrneat@aol.com writes:
I looked up (like I always do when any aircraft flies by) and what
do you think it was?Yes, a Pietenpol!
"Flies" by? Sometimes I crack myself up.
do not archive
www.aeroelectric.comwww.kitlog.comhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet
enpol-List
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Reminds me of the shortest actual poem,,,,,
"Flies"
Adam Had'em
walt evans
NX140DL
do not archive
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
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Hi Walt
You said 13 meanings of fly and only listed 12. Hope I didn't catch you
with your fly down!
Best Regards
Steve in Maine
Home of the Black Fly Breeders Assoc.
>From: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
>Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:25:01 -0500
>
>from,,,
>http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fly
>see #9.
>
>It is correct!
>walt evans
>NX140DL
>
>Advertisement
>
>
>Top Web Results for "fly"
>
>
>13 results for: fly
>View results from: Dictionary | Thesaurus | Encyclopedia | the Web
>
>Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source
>fly1 /fla?/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[flahy]
>Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, flew or, for 11, 19,
>flied, flown, fly?ing, noun, plural flies.
>
>-verb (used without object) 1. to move through the air using wings.
> 2. to be carried through the air by the wind or any other force or
>agency: bits of paper flying about.
> 3. to float or flutter in the air: flags flying in the breeze.
> 4. to travel in an aircraft or spacecraft.
> 5. to move suddenly and quickly; start unexpectedly: He flew from
>the room.
> 6. to change rapidly and unexpectedly from one state or position to
>another: The door flew open.
> 7. to flee; escape.
> 8. to travel in space: The probe will fly past the planet.
> 9. to move or pass swiftly: How time flies!
> 10. to move with an aggressive surge: A mother fox will fly at
>anyone approaching her kits.
> 11. Baseball. a. to bat a fly ball: He flied into right field.
> b. to fly out.
>
> 12. Informal. to be acceptable, believable, or feasible: It seemed
>like a good idea, but it
>
>walt evans
>NX140DL
>
>"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
>Ben Franklin
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: harvey.rule@bell.ca
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 10:57 AM
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
>
>
> The spelling should be,flys by not flies by.We all know what he ment and
>I'm not one for pointing out spelling mistakes because I sometimes do the
>same thing with my little fat fingers and sometimes you Yanks and Rebs
>spell things different than we Canucks do.But I do see the humour in what
>he wrote afterwards.(humor,humour)example. By the way ,flys is flying and
>flies are those pesky little bugs that drive you nuts in the summer.See the
>joke now?
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church
> Sent: November 20, 2006 9:03 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
>
>
> Okay, I don't get it. What's so funny about that?
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>Pietsrneat@aol.com
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 6:31 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
>
> In a message dated 11/19/2006 7:31:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>Pietsrneat@aol.com writes:
>
> I looked up (like I always do when any aircraft flies by) and what do
>you think it was?Yes, a Pietenpol!
>
> "Flies" by? Sometimes I crack myself up.
>
> do not archive
>
>
>www.aeroelectric.comwww.kitlog.comhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>
>
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Steve,
Nah, just cut and pasted some from the dictionary page. But it seems that
"flies" is correct.
Ain't Life Grand!
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Glass" <redsglass@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
> <redsglass@hotmail.com>
>
> Hi Walt
>
> You said 13 meanings of fly and only listed 12. Hope I didn't catch you
> with your fly down!
>
> Best Regards
> Steve in Maine
> Home of the Black Fly Breeders Assoc.
>
>
>>From: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
>>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
>>Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:25:01 -0500
>>
>>from,,,
>>http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fly
>>see #9.
>>
>>It is correct!
>>walt evans
>>NX140DL
>>
>>Advertisement
>>
>>
>>Top Web Results for "fly"
>>
>>
>>13 results for: fly
>>View results from: Dictionary | Thesaurus | Encyclopedia | the Web
>>
>>Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source
>>fly1 /fla?/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[flahy]
>>Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, flew or, for 11, 19,
>>flied, flown, fly?ing, noun, plural flies.
>>
>>-verb (used without object) 1. to move through the air using wings.
>> 2. to be carried through the air by the wind or any other force or
>> agency: bits of paper flying about.
>> 3. to float or flutter in the air: flags flying in the breeze.
>> 4. to travel in an aircraft or spacecraft.
>> 5. to move suddenly and quickly; start unexpectedly: He flew from
>> the room.
>> 6. to change rapidly and unexpectedly from one state or position to
>> another: The door flew open.
>> 7. to flee; escape.
>> 8. to travel in space: The probe will fly past the planet.
>> 9. to move or pass swiftly: How time flies!
>> 10. to move with an aggressive surge: A mother fox will fly at
>> anyone approaching her kits.
>> 11. Baseball. a. to bat a fly ball: He flied into right field.
>> b. to fly out.
>>
>> 12. Informal. to be acceptable, believable, or feasible: It seemed
>> like a good idea, but it
>>
>>walt evans
>>NX140DL
>>
>>"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
>>Ben Franklin
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: harvey.rule@bell.ca
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 10:57 AM
>> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
>>
>>
>> The spelling should be,flys by not flies by.We all know what he ment
>> and I'm not one for pointing out spelling mistakes because I sometimes do
>> the same thing with my little fat fingers and sometimes you Yanks and
>> Rebs spell things different than we Canucks do.But I do see the humour in
>> what he wrote afterwards.(humor,humour)example. By the way ,flys is
>> flying and flies are those pesky little bugs that drive you nuts in the
>> summer.See the joke now?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
>> Church
>> Sent: November 20, 2006 9:03 AM
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Okay, I don't get it. What's so funny about that?
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> Pietsrneat@aol.com
>> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 6:31 AM
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
>>
>> In a message dated 11/19/2006 7:31:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> Pietsrneat@aol.com writes:
>>
>> I looked up (like I always do when any aircraft flies by) and what do
>> you think it was?Yes, a Pietenpol!
>>
>> "Flies" by? Sometimes I crack myself up.
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> www.aeroelectric.comwww.kitlog.comhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Oklahoma Fly-in |
In a message dated 11/20/2006 10:06:37 AM Central Standard Time,
steve@wotelectronics.com writes:
I hope you can make the next one, we are looking at February as a
possibility. We desperately need a smoking Piet here!
Yes, that is a comm antenna that I installed on the bottom of the
nose. I wanted it inside the fuse, and may do that eventually, but it
works great in that location as there was already sheet metal for a
ground plane there. I have transmitted up to 90 miles air to air
using my 5 watt handheld! I can regularly transmit 40 miles air to
air. I made it with some brass brazing rod and nylon insulators from
Home Depot, and a pre-terminated RG-58 cable from the local
electronics shop. Total cost was under $10!
Steve
February !! Holy Crap !! That would be a very chilly flight !! I would
have to be bundled up so much, it would cause a lot of extra drag, if I could
even fit in my plans width, 632 lb. short fuselage. At least there wouldn't be
any flys..or is it flies...or is it fly's out buzzing around :)
I made an antenna from coax cable, that I separated the two leads, and
stretched them apart under the turtle deck, totaling 42". I have an ICOM -5
Handheld, but I don't think it will broadcast 40 miles, but it does well in any
local flying area...with a typical south wind I would call:
"Norman Field, Zero Charlie Golf is Forty miles north, inbound for
landing...in about an hour"
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Re: Progress and problems |
Rick, As far as I am concerned I would rather deal with Wicks than A.S.S. (WOW!
thats a appropriate abriviation). I usually deal with Wicks on lumber and usually
recieve it in a couple of weeks. Although I am building a Jungster 1 not
a Piet, it is all wood and all my spruce has been purchased from Wicks. I
don't know whats been going on with A.S.S. lately but I have heard a lot of complaints
about them as far as lumber orders, from screwed up orders to lack of
customer service. On a side note 3/4 in spars are more than enough, Take a look
at a Taylorcraft spar. They are longer and only 1/2 in thick, and the root
end spar plates for wing attatch fittings are beveled down even more to keep
the 1/8 in ply flush with the rest of the spar.
My 2 cents
Shad
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| Subject: | Ohio area pietenpol gathering |
Helo Group, Dad and I were talking the other day about possibly organizing an a
gathering of Pietenpols from the Ohio area. We thought this would be a fun event
for people who would love to fly to Brodhead but can't find the time to make
the trip due to occupational or logistical reasons, as Brodhead can be a long
long trip if weather takes an unexpected turn. I was just wondering how many
of you would be interested in attending an Ohio Piet fly-in. I was thinking
of one easy way to do this would be to keep touch next spring and meet up close
to another sceduled fly in in the area fly in as a group. This would be
a fun alternate to those who can't make it to Brodhead, and an added bonus to
those who do make it to Brodhead. A few of the area fly-ins that come to mind
are the Taylorcraft fly-in At Barber Field in Alliance, The WACO fly-in at Wyncoop
in Mt Vernon Ohio, or any other grass airport fly-ins you all may know of.
These airports would all be within 2-3 hrs
flight time from almost anywhere in Ohio, and you could even sleep in your own
bed that night.
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Gene,
What a great idea! I'm in the sign business...I should have thought of
that. The crappiest vinyl I carry is guaranteed for five years (under normal
circumstances). It is very durable. Also, the adhesive is quite tenacious and
should hold 'till the cows come home.
Ron
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You are right, Bill. It just didn't look right to me after I posted it. I
should have more confidence in myself.
Ron
Doo nut arkive
do not archive
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Only if it's on the outside flapping like hell with it's legs
glued to the top of your plane;
http://www.markfelling.com/id385.htm
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: DJ Vegh
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
If flies in the cockpit fly, does it reduce the flying weight of your
plane as it flys?
----- Original Message -----
From: harvey.rule@bell.ca
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
The spelling should be,flys by not flies by.We all know what he ment
and I'm not one for pointing out spelling mistakes because I sometimes
do the same thing with my little fat fingers and sometimes you Yanks and
Rebs spell things different than we Canucks do.But I do see the humour
in what he wrote afterwards.(humor,humour)example. By the way ,flys is
flying and flies are those pesky little bugs that drive you nuts in the
summer.See the joke now?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Church
Sent: November 20, 2006 9:03 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
Okay, I don't get it. What's so funny about that?
Bill
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Pietsrneat@aol.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 6:31 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: The correct spelling is advice.....
In a message dated 11/19/2006 7:31:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Pietsrneat@aol.com writes:
I looked up (like I always do when any aircraft flies by) and what
do you think it was?Yes, a Pietenpol!
"Flies" by? Sometimes I crack myself up.
do not archive
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Dave
Go to www.rotecradialengines.com Look for the tab on the left side of
their site titled "Dicks Pietenpol" They have pics there.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Abramson
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:24 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Rotec piet
Hi Dick!
Do you have any photos of your engine install? I am thinking to use a
Rotec Radial on my Piet too!
Best Regards,
Dave Abramson
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dick
Navratil
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:07 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rotec piet
As things are a bit slow on the list, here is an update on my new
Piet.
The tail is finished with the special batch of Poly Tone that Stits
made for me. I wanted it to look like leather stretched over a lamp
shade and I am happy with the result, it is transluscent. I fit the
wing center section on last week with temp fittings. Yesterday, I built
the bellcrank assy and it will be installed this week. I am going with
external rigging on the bellcrank. The wings are almost ready for
covering, just some minor puttering left.
Rotec e-mailed me last week. They say there are 3 other Piets now
under construction. I know of 1 in N. Florida who is on the list here.
Has anyone heard of anyone else?
I'm still hoping mine is done for Brodhead.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio area pietenpol gathering |
I was just thinking the same thing lately. I'd really like to help try to organize
some kind of gathering in Ohio. There are several active Piet pilots in
Ohio and I think we could make a decent showing. A few would include Will Graff,
Mike Cuy, Frank Pavliga, Virgil Phillips, you and me, and I'm sure there's
more. I'm sure the Barbers would accomodate us and their EAA chapter at the
field would always like to sell more pancakes. I could talk to Forrest and get
his opinion. They may be interested in hosting us. Or we could just plan to
gather at another. The Taylorcraft and Aeronca fly-ins at Barber may work.
Wynkoop field is a beautiful one and would be a good one to meet at for the Waco
fly-in too. I think both of those have hosted Pietenpol Fly-ins in the past.
Both are grass an' gas. Any other Buckeyes out there have any other suggestions?
Let us know.
Don Emch
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