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1. 04:35 AM - Flying Music (slightly OT) (Tim Verthein)
2. 05:57 AM - Re: Flying Music (slightly OT) (Jeff Boatright)
3. 08:10 AM - Re: corvair air camper (shad bell)
4. 09:46 AM - Re: fire resistant paint (Dennis Engelkenjohn)
5. 03:42 PM - Re: corvair air camper (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
6. 04:27 PM - Charlies ribs (Dick Navratil)
7. 06:24 PM - Re: corvair air camper (johnwoods@westnet.com.au)
8. 06:25 PM - Re: Charlies ribs (James)
9. 06:58 PM - Re: corvair air camper (Jeff Boatright)
10. 07:36 PM - NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! (Gene Hubbard)
11. 07:51 PM - Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! (Rcaprd@aol.com)
12. 08:17 PM - Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! (walt evans)
13. 08:21 PM - Grega GN-1 Aircamper (Garrahy, Paul)
14. 09:27 PM - Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! (Greg Bacon)
15. 11:04 PM - Re: corvair air camper (johnwoods@westnet.com.au)
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| Subject: | Flying Music (slightly OT) |
Back in the early 70's, my Dad had a couple record albums by a
folksinger named Oscar Brand. These 2 records were all flying songs,
one Lp dedicated to general aviation! The songs are clean, humorous,
and, darn it, quite amusing. I absconded with these records when I
moved out a long long time ago, and recently dug them out. Near as I
can tell these can't be purchased on a current release. I have found a
few Oscar Brand compilation CD's, but it seems impossible to get all
the airplane songs.
SO.....I took the well played LP and dubbed in into my computer and
made mp3's out of the tracks and uploaded them to my web server several
months ago. Completely forgot about them till just now, and it dawned
on me...that ya'll might enjoy giving them a listen. That said:
http://www.edselmotors.com/oscarbrand/
Should take you to a file directory of mp3's. If you've got a decent
internet connection you should be able to grab the songs in a few
minutes. They're all pretty much light plane theme songs, and general
flying songs that would apply to anyone flying anything in general
aviation. I even burned the tracks to CD to play in the car, which
drives th' wife nuts.
And to make the post relevant, decided to go with long fuse, 'Vair
power, 3 piece wing, and hopefully get started building ribs once we
get past the holidays! Oh..and I have lots of tools on my letter to
Santa!
Tim in Bovey
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Music (slightly OT) |
Thanks, Tim!
--
Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
Atlanta, GA 30322
Editor-in-Chief
Molecular Vision
http://www.molvis.org/
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| Subject: | Re: corvair air camper |
What type of info do you need? The corvair is a relitivly simple engine, easy
to work on and somewhat powerful. But from engine to engine they can be worlds
apart depending on how they are set up, prop etc. I would be careful to check
everything I could and would think about dismantling the engine for inspection
if you don't know the history of the airplane and engine. This seems to
be more critical in experimental aircraft, as any one can do there own work and
a A+P never has to see it. (this goes on with certified aircraft owners as
well) This is not to say homebuilders are inferrior, but I have met some people
who take every shortcut they can to save pennies, and hopefully it never bites
them in the ass. So if the airframe is in good shape, and the engines runs
well it would probably be OK. If you know the history of the airplane that
would be a BIG help. As for flying the corvair BEWARE OF CARB ICE!! They run
fine but they will ice up pretty fast and loose
power. I make it a habbit to cycle the carb heat every 10 min or so to make sure
the carb is cleaned out. I read somewhere (William Wynne I think) that you
can run a corvair all day with carb heat on and not hurt it, just not quite
as much power. Good luck with your potential purchase, and you will love the
sound of a corvair on climb out, it sounds like a cross of a radial and a 182.
Shad
Malcolmbru@aol.com wrote:
I need lots of info on a corvair powered aircamper I am this close to
buying matronics is great i belong to the kit fox forem also malcolm michigan
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| Subject: | Re: fire resistant paint |
Thanks Clif. I think that is the stuff. I am going to try sherwin
williams tomorrow and if no luck I'll email this company.
dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Clif Dawson
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: fire resistant paint
Try this;
http://www.flameseal.com/fxWFdesc.html
Clif
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From: Dennis Engelkenjohn
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: fire resistant paint
Actually, I am going to use stainless steel sheet. I didn't leave
much room to get the bolt heads out of the motor mounts near the
firewall. I am fessing up. you got to the truth. I don't know if there
is room for the 1/8" fiberfrax. A buddy may have some asbestos sheet,
but I prefer not to use it. The heat resistant paint is to paint the
firewall wood under the SS.
Dennis
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From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: fire resistant paint
Don't know of firewalls that are painted.
Mine is just galvanized steel and not painted.
Do you have to paint it?
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from
you"
Ben Franklin
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From: Dennis Engelkenjohn
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 3:11 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: fire resistant paint
The paint I am trying to find is for the firewall, I should have
said that in my last post.
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Date: 12/9/2006 3:41 PM
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| Subject: | Re: corvair air camper |
on the kit fox site I got over 40 E mails today alone, so I mite like this
site. the corvair has a fan belt but no starter I will learn moor Monday
when I examen the books on the plain and motor it has a K corroborator? and
carb heat I need to know moor about how to look at the motor and know what
to look at. the plain was built in 94 and not flown much then brought to
Michigan 5 years ago and not flown since tearing the motor down is a must for
us I
cant tell if there is anything on this motor that is not stock or if it has
or needs a reduction drive on it some PICS would help mal.
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Does anyone who bought ribs from Charlie Rubek recall the type of wood
he used to make them? He told me once but I can't remember now if it
was White Cedar or Western Red Cedar.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: corvair air camper |
Hi fellow Pieters.
I'm new to the list, but have been following the posts for quite a
while now.
I'm in the throws of starting my Pitenpol, down under in Perth,
Western Australia, a Corvair powered, Douglass Fir, long fuse
variant. There are at lease two others I know of around the Perth
area, Rod Wooler and Graham Hewitt who are at variouse stages of
construction. There is also an original Burnie Pietenpol Scout based
at our local Airport, Jandakot which arrived earlier this year.
I have decided to strip my own wood from Douglas Fir stock I obtained
from a local ladder manufacturer, who imports the timber from Canada.
I did purchase two planks of Spruce for the ribs, from a gentleman in
Queensland, Aust., which I stripped down to 1/2 x 1/4, and have
started on the ribs.
I chose the Corvair because it was an economical and powerful engine
choice and offered the opportunity to build the "whole aircraft" from
the ground up. I read as much as possible from specialist corvair
conversion web sites before reaching my decision to use the Corvair.
Of course, I'll be following WW's bible. I obtained the beginnings of
the engine from Darren Barnfied, WW's Australian Agent and have used
eBay, California Corvair and Clarks for various parts, slowly
accumulating all that I need.
One point which I see mentioned quite often as a warning against the
Corvair is Carb Icing.
I think it is important to note that it is NOT peculiar to the
Corvair alone. It is common to most aircraft engines, uncertified and
certified and it is dependent on the carburettor selection not the
engine selection. This topic has been covered quite extensively on
this site and others.
Any how, I'm happy to proceed with the Corvair and will only know
whether it lives up to it's reputation, good or bad, when I start
flying... a few more years into the future.
I'll be looking closly at which carb I use. (Just purchased a RevFlow
on Ebay, so will keep that one for testing, together with others)
PS. As you all know, there are other builders of the Pietenpol in
Australia, but they are at lease 4000km away!!
Thanks for a great List, which I look forward to reading every day.
Regards,
John Woods
---- Original Message ----
From: aviatorbell@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: corvair air camper
>What type of info do you need? The corvair is a relitivly simple
>engine, easy to work on and somewhat powerful. But from engine to
>engine they can be worlds apart depending on how they are set up,
>prop etc. I would be careful to check everything I could and would
>think about dismantling the engine for inspection if you don't know
>the history of the airplane and engine. This seems to be more
>critical in experimental aircraft, as any one can do there own work
>and a A+P never has to see it. (this goes on with certified aircraft
>owners as well) This is not to say homebuilders are inferrior, but I
>have met some people who take every shortcut they can to save
>pennies, and hopefully it never bites them in the ass. So if the
>airframe is in good shape, and the engines runs well it would
>probably be OK. If you know the history of the airplane that would
>be a BIG help. As for flying the corvair BEWARE OF CARB ICE!! They
>run fine but they will ice up pretty fast and loose
> power. I make it a habbit to cycle the carb heat every 10 min or so
>to make sure the carb is cleaned out. I read somewhere (William
>Wynne I think) that you can run a corvair all day with carb heat on
>and not hurt it, just not quite as much power. Good luck with your
>potential purchase, and you will love the sound of a corvair on climb
>out, it sounds like a cross of a radial and a 182.
> Shad
>
>Malcolmbru@aol.com wrote:
> I need lots of info on a corvair powered aircamper I am
>this close to buying matronics is great i belong to the kit fox
>forem also malcolm michigan
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
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I have a set and I belive they are western red cedar
Jim T.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dick
Navratil
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 7:27 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Charlies ribs
Does anyone who bought ribs from Charlie Rubek recall the type of wood
he
used to make them? He told me once but I can't remember now if it was
White
Cedar or Western Red Cedar.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: corvair air camper |
John,
I had a great week on Perth in October, 2004. I flew in from Sydney,
we had a heck of clear day, and for some reason the 737 flew
relatively low. I got to follow the southern shore all the way around
the southern edge of the continent, saw every detail of your
beautiful country. Heading into Perth it looked like the first time
I landed at Shannon airport in Ireland. Just gorgeous.
Good luck with the Piet, and send us some aerial photos when it's done!
Jeff
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| Subject: | NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! |
I started building NX421GN about 7 1/2 years ago. It got its
airworthiness certificate today! Thanks to those (Mike Cuy and Jack
Phillips in particular) who made suggestions that changed the way I
built it.
First flight when it's good and ready (but probably this year).
Gene Hubbard
San Diego, CA.
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| Subject: | Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! |
In a message dated 12/10/2006 9:38:42 PM Central Standard Time,
enhubbard@sbcglobal.net writes:
I started building NX421GN about 7 1/2 years ago. It got its
airworthiness certificate today! Thanks to those (Mike Cuy and Jack
Phillips in particular) who made suggestions that changed the way I
built it.
First flight when it's good and ready (but probably this year).
Gene Hubbard
San Diego, CA.
Gene,
A big Congratulations on your milestone !! Occasions like this, gives
everyone on the list cause to celebrate !!
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! |
Good one Gene! Keep us posted.
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Hubbard" <enhubbard@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 10:36 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate !
>I started building NX421GN about 7 1/2 years ago. It got its
> airworthiness certificate today! Thanks to those (Mike Cuy and Jack
> Phillips in particular) who made suggestions that changed the way I
> built it.
>
> First flight when it's good and ready (but probably this year).
>
> Gene Hubbard
> San Diego, CA.
>
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| Subject: | Grega GN-1 Aircamper |
Hi,
I am currently looking at purchasing a Grega GN-1 Aircamper that is for
sale in Australia. Whilst I understand it is not a Pietenpol, can anyone
advise if the Grega is a good, safe flyer? Any particular
handling/structual issues I should be aware of? Also, any particular c
of g issues?
Many thanks,
Paul Garrahy
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| Subject: | Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! |
Gene,
Congratulations!! She's a fine looking ship. Will she be making the trek
to Brodhead in 2007?
Greg Bacon
Prairie Home, MO
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Hubbard" <enhubbard@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 9:36 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate !
>I started building NX421GN about 7 1/2 years ago. It got its
> airworthiness certificate today! Thanks to those (Mike Cuy and Jack
> Phillips in particular) who made suggestions that changed the way I
> built it.
>
> First flight when it's good and ready (but probably this year).
>
> Gene Hubbard
> San Diego, CA.
>
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| Subject: | Re: corvair air camper |
Jeff,
Did you catch the size of our Swan River?
Some visitors have likened it to an inland sea.
Great spot for sailing and other water sports. No sea planes though.
Perth is famous for it's clear skies, not a cloud to be seen,
especially in winter (June to August) where the temperatures range
between 5 deg C and the low 20's and the air is cool and clear with
light winds (when the storm fronts aren't blowing thru).
Right now we're heading into summer when the winds can get quite
strong. From the east in the morning, turning westerly in the
afternoon.
The hot temperatures, peaking in the low 40's (degC) in Feb / March
make for interesting landings and take-(forever)offs. Best to stay at
home in the pool or in an airconditioned room with a couple of
stubbies of your favourite liquid amber watching cricket interspersed
with the occasional nap.
Have a great winter you guys!! (I'm not sure which is worse. A
sweltering hot summer or a freezing cold winter.)
John
---- Original Message ----
From: jboatri@emory.edu
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: corvair air camper
><jboatri@emory.edu>
>
>John,
>
>I had a great week on Perth in October, 2004. I flew in from Sydney,
>we had a heck of clear day, and for some reason the 737 flew
>relatively low. I got to follow the southern shore all the way around
>
>the southern edge of the continent, saw every detail of your
>beautiful country. Heading into Perth it looked like the first time
>I landed at Shannon airport in Ireland. Just gorgeous.
>
>Good luck with the Piet, and send us some aerial photos when it's
>done!
>
>Jeff
>
>
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