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1. 03:17 AM - Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! (Tim Willis)
2. 03:54 AM - Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! ()
3. 03:56 AM - Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! ()
4. 04:09 AM - Re: Charlies ribs (Skip-Cinda Gadd)
5. 04:27 AM - Re: movie inaccuracies done right--Airplane ()
6. 04:38 AM - Re: Grega GN-1 Aircamper (Skip-Cinda Gadd)
7. 04:45 AM - Re: movie inaccuracies done right--Airplane ()
8. 07:50 AM - Re: Grega GN-1 Aircamper (Dick Navratil)
9. 07:54 AM - Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! (Mike Volckmann)
10. 08:39 AM - Re: Grega GN-1 Aircamper (DJ Vegh)
11. 08:46 AM - Lower and Slower Pieters (Isablcorky@aol.com)
12. 09:03 AM - Re: Grega GN-1 Aircamper ()
13. 09:30 AM - Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! (Pietsrneat@aol.com)
14. 09:45 AM - Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! (pietflyr)
15. 09:57 AM - Red cedar (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
16. 09:58 AM - 21GN (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
17. 11:22 AM - project for sale (antique airplane assoc.)
18. 02:01 PM - Corvair valve covers (Michael Groah)
19. 02:02 PM - Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! (Gene & Tammy)
20. 02:25 PM - Re: Charlies ribs (del magsam)
21. 02:27 PM - Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! (shad bell)
22. 02:43 PM - Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! (HelsperSew@aol.com)
23. 02:53 PM - 21 GN (Dick Navratil)
24. 03:09 PM - Re: Charlies ribs (Kip and Beth Gardner)
25. 04:22 PM - Re: project for sale (Amsafetyc@aol.com)
26. 04:55 PM - Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! (Alan Lyscars)
27. 06:30 PM - Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! (DOUGLAS BLACKBURN)
28. 06:42 PM - Ribs continued (Dick Navratil)
29. 06:45 PM - Wing Ribs (Ben Ramler)
30. 07:25 PM - Re: [piet] Flying Music (slightly OT) (Mike Whaley)
31. 10:10 PM - Re: Ribs continued (Clif Dawson)
32. 10:22 PM - Re: movie inaccuracies done right--Airplane (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! |
Gene,
Pretty plane. Thanks for sharing. You should be proud.
What is the exact color and paint? (I have thought of a smilar green contrasting
trim on a white or light gray plane.) [Mine is on LG, but needs further motor
mount work for CG ~ my weight-- 270.]
Congratulations,
Tim
-----Original Message-----
>From: Gene Hubbard <enhubbard@sbcglobal.net>
>Sent: Dec 10, 2006 9:36 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate !
>
>I started building NX421GN about 7 1/2 years ago. It got its
>airworthiness certificate today! Thanks to those (Mike Cuy and Jack
>Phillips in particular) who made suggestions that changed the way I
>built it.
>
>First flight when it's good and ready (but probably this year).
>
>Gene Hubbard
>San Diego, CA.
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| Subject: | NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! |
Way to go Gene;looking forward to hearing about your first flight!
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Rcaprd@aol.com
Sent: December 10, 2006 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate !
In a message dated 12/10/2006 9:38:42 PM Central Standard Time,
enhubbard@sbcglobal.net writes:
I started building NX421GN about 7 1/2 years ago. It got its
airworthiness certificate today! Thanks to those (Mike Cuy and
Jack
Phillips in particular) who made suggestions that changed the
way I
built it.
First flight when it's good and ready (but probably this year).
Gene Hubbard
San Diego, CA.
Gene,
A big Congratulations on your milestone !! Occasions like this, gives
everyone on the list cause to celebrate !!
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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| Subject: | NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! |
Real nice lookin bird!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene
Hubbard
Sent: December 10, 2006 10:36 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate !
I started building NX421GN about 7 1/2 years ago. It got its
airworthiness certificate today! Thanks to those (Mike Cuy and Jack
Phillips in particular) who made suggestions that changed the way I
built it.
First flight when it's good and ready (but probably this year).
Gene Hubbard
San Diego, CA.
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Hi Dick,
I think Charlie use to call it Port Orford (not sure of the spelling) Cedar.
Skip
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From: Dick Navratil
Sent: 12/10/2006 7:29:37 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Charlies ribs
Does anyone who bought ribs from Charlie Rubek recall the type of wood he used
to make them? He told me once but I can't remember now if it was White Cedar
or Western Red Cedar.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | movie inaccuracies done right--Airplane |
What the movie Dr Strange Love and look closely at the shadow of the B52
on the ground as it flies along.It is the shadow of a B17(;-) enjoy!
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy,
Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
Sent: December 9, 2006 10:20 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: movie inaccuracies done right--Airplane
I'll never forget in the winter of 1980 when myself and two other
airplane nut buddies went to the theater to see the movie Airplane for
the
first time. Of the 70 or so people in the theater watching the opening
scene of the jet airliner coming up thru the clouds, we were the only
three in the whole place laughing our butts off because of the
multi-engine recip sound clip they were using--something like a DC-6 or
B-17 !
We got some weird looks but we didn't care--it was hilarious.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Grega GN-1 Aircamper |
Hi Paul,
>From my limited experience flying Piets and GN-1s, there is more difference
from plane to plane than from GN-1 to Piet. Weight is the big issue with
most GN-1s and Piets on the used market. Think real hard about any over 700
lbs.
Skip
> [Original Message]
<Paul.Garrahy@community.nsw.gov.au>
> I am currently looking at purchasing a Grega GN-1 Aircamper that is for
> sale in Australia. Whilst I understand it is not a Pietenpol, can anyone
> advise if the Grega is a good, safe flyer? Any particular
> handling/structual issues I should be aware of? Also, any particular c
> of g issues?
> Many thanks,
> Paul Garrahy
>
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| Subject: | movie inaccuracies done right--Airplane |
This was supposed to say watch the movie ,not what the movie,sorry about
that.My computer must have made a mistake,eh!
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rule,
Harvey G (N092740)
Sent: December 11, 2006 7:27 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: movie inaccuracies done right--Airplane
What the movie Dr Strange Love and look closely at the shadow of the B52
on the ground as it flies along.It is the shadow of a B17(;-) enjoy!
Do not archive
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy,
Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
Sent: December 9, 2006 10:20 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: movie inaccuracies done right--Airplane
I'll never forget in the winter of 1980 when myself and two other
airplane nut buddies went to the theater to see the movie Airplane for
the
first time. Of the 70 or so people in the theater watching the opening
scene of the jet airliner coming up thru the clouds, we were the only
three in the whole place laughing our butts off because of the
multi-engine recip sound clip they were using--something like a DC-6 or
B-17 !
We got some weird looks but we didn't care--it was hilarious.
Mike C.
www.aeroelectric.com
www.kitlog.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
www.aeroelectric.com
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| Subject: | Re: Grega GN-1 Aircamper |
Paul
The Grega is a fine machine. The main differences between it and the
original are Grega used some J-3 fittings and assemblies to make
construction faster.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Garrahy, Paul" <Paul.Garrahy@community.nsw.gov.au>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 10:21 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Grega GN-1 Aircamper
<Paul.Garrahy@community.nsw.gov.au>
Hi,
I am currently looking at purchasing a Grega GN-1 Aircamper that is for
sale in Australia. Whilst I understand it is not a Pietenpol, can anyone
advise if the Grega is a good, safe flyer? Any particular
handling/structual issues I should be aware of? Also, any particular c
of g issues?
Many thanks,
Paul Garrahy
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| Subject: | Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! |
Gene,=0A =0ACongratulations in your accomplishment.=0A =0AMike=0A=0A=0A----
- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Gene Hubbard <enhubbard@sbcglobal.net>=0ATo
: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 8:36:02 PM
=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate !=0A=0A
=0AI started building NX421GN about 7 1/2 years ago. It got its =0Aairwort
hiness certificate today! Thanks to those (Mike Cuy and Jack =0APhillips i
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=0AFirst flight when it's good and ready (but probably this year).=0A=0AGen
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| Subject: | Re: Grega GN-1 Aircamper |
The GN-1 is a sturdier airplane (at the expense of escess weight)... an
overbuilt version of an already overbuilt airplane ;)
It uses parts from J-3, Aeronca Champs, Taylorcrafts, etc. Parts that back
in the 70's were easy to get. Not so much now.
It does not have the ability to move the wing fore/aft for balance and they
are typically tail heavy if built to plans. Mine will weigh in around 780lb
I think, but a bit of that extra weight is due to me using a Corvair (235lb)
instead of an A-65 (185lb)
DJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Grega GN-1 Aircamper
<horzpool@goldengate.net>
>
> Paul
> The Grega is a fine machine. The main differences between it and the
> original are Grega used some J-3 fittings and assemblies to make
> construction faster.
> Dick N.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Garrahy, Paul" <Paul.Garrahy@community.nsw.gov.au>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 10:21 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Grega GN-1 Aircamper
>
>
> <Paul.Garrahy@community.nsw.gov.au>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am currently looking at purchasing a Grega GN-1 Aircamper that is for
> sale in Australia. Whilst I understand it is not a Pietenpol, can anyone
> advise if the Grega is a good, safe flyer? Any particular
> handling/structual issues I should be aware of? Also, any particular c
> of g issues?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Paul Garrahy
>
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| Subject: | Lower and Slower Pieters |
To those Pieters who fly with drivers license
According to a recent article Isabelle read me from the AARP magazine there
should be no reason for older Pieters to give up flying, public safety
considered. Keep those D L s in force a l a p legally or otherwise.
"Sausage Man. George Johnson of Richmond, Calif., who died recently at 112,
not only defied the actuarial tables but did so on a diet of mostly sausages
and waffles. Despite his high-calorie, fat-laden food choices, Johnson's
autopsy revealed that the World War I veteran had the organs of someone in his
50s
or 60s."
Guess what Isabelle served me for breakfast this morning?
Corky
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| Subject: | Grega GN-1 Aircamper |
I also noticed that the way the control cables are strung is
different.With the Pietenpol model the aileron control cables come in
and cross at the back cockpit whereas the Grega model has them coming in
at the front seat and not crossed.See pics in attachment.In the first
three pics you see the cables coming straight down at the front cockpit
and then they go through pullies to the Auronca type control.No cables
in the rear cockpit except for the rudder cables going by on either
side.In the last pics you see the cables cross and go to the control
attachment in the back cockpit.The cables cross inside the wing at the
front leading edge on the Grega model.In the last pic you see another
set up that uses the struts to run the cables.
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| Subject: | Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! |
In a message dated 12/10/2006 10:38:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
enhubbard@sbcglobal.net writes:
I started building NX421GN about 7 1/2 years ago. It got its
airworthiness certificate today! Thanks to those (Mike Cuy and Jack
Phillips in particular) who made suggestions that changed the way I
built it.
First flight when it's good and ready (but probably this year).
Gene Hubbard
Congratulations, Gene. Times like this makes everyone smile. Beautiful job.
Ron
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| Subject: | NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! |
Beautiful, Gene! Let us know how she flies.
Jack Phillips
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gene
Hubbard
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 10:36 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate !
I started building NX421GN about 7 1/2 years ago. It got its
airworthiness certificate today! Thanks to those (Mike Cuy and Jack
Phillips in particular) who made suggestions that changed the way I
built it.
First flight when it's good and ready (but probably this year).
Gene Hubbard
San Diego, CA.
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Dick-- from what I recall those ribs Charlie R. used to produce were
made of red cedar. They even have a tinge of a reddish color to
them--esp. w/ age.
Mike
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Way to go, Gene Hubbard !
Excellent news. You did it, man !!!
Looks like a great airport too---lots of open space to doodle around in.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | project for sale |
hey everyone one of our members (the IPA) has his aircamper project for sale here
is the dope
For sale pietenpol aircamper project fuselage 90% finished
wing ribs done
some piper j3 parts as used on the gn-1
aircamper and gn-1 plans
tailwheel and spring
1200.00 for all firm
931-738-5776
middle tennesse
james cash
thanks
ben
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ben taylor
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p839#80839
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| Subject: | Corvair valve covers |
I am wondering if the Corvair "Aircamper" valve covers are still available. I called the number listed on : http://users.aol.com/bpabpa7315/tm.html. , but it was disconnected.
Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
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| Subject: | Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! |
Way to go Gene! (guess it's all in the "Genes".)
Gene
N502R Tennessee
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| Subject: | Re: Charlies ribs |
western red cedar
Del
Dick Navratil <horzpool@goldengate.net> wrote:
Does anyone who bought ribs from Charlie Rubek recall the type of wood
he used to make them? He told me once but I can't remember now if it was White
Cedar or Western Red Cedar.
Dick N.
Del-New Richmond, Wi
"farmerdel@rocketmail.com"
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| Subject: | NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! |
CONGRADULATIONS! You will love the way it flies. I think a piet is the easiest
airplane I have ever flown, so enjoy, enjoy, enjoy!
Shad
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| Subject: | Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! |
Gene,
Congratulations on the conclusion of a long journey!!! I'm sure the road
was long, twisting, and arduous, but very enjoyable at the same time.
Beautiful airplane!!! Now relax and have FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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Congrats Gene
You have the right attitude also. Now that it's done, stand back and
enjoy and consider what you did and think about all the parts and what
not be quite right before the first flight, then go safely and enjoy.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: Charlies ribs |
OK, first the disclaimer that I am only agreeing with Mike Cuy based
solely on my own memory.
Yes, I believe Charlie used Red Cedar for his ribs. By this I am
certain he meant WESTERN Red Cedar, which is a very nice, uniform
clear-grained wood, very easy to work, with natural rot resistance.
It's one of my favorite woods to work with. It is not as strong as
Sitka Spruce, but given that the Pietenpol ribs, like most of the
rest of the airframe, are over-designed, this is not a problem.
Western Red Cedar is not to be confused with EASTERN Red Cedar, which
is very different critter. E. R. Cedar is typically full of dozens
of little, tiny knots, rarely has straight grain, and has wierd
distributiuon of sap and heartwood. It is the Cedar typically used
for moth-repellent cedar chests and closets because it has the
characteristic smell that repels moths & because the grain is very
attractive.
I also use E.R cedar oil as a cover scent when I'm deer hunting - works great!
Kip Gardner (working on making the Cadillac of rib jigs)
--
North Canton, OH
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| Subject: | Re: project for sale |
Ben,
I called the number listed as I am very interested. Please pass that interest along
to the owner in addition yo my email info. Send return contact to amsafetyc@aol.com
Thanks
John
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From: "antique airplane assoc." <benjaminltaylor@yahoo.com>
To:pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: project for sale
hey everyone one of our members (the IPA) has his aircamper project for sale here
is the dope
For sale pietenpol aircamper project fuselage 90% finished
wing ribs done
some piper j3 parts as used on the gn-1
aircamper and gn-1 plans
tailwheel and spring
1200.00 for all firm
931-738-5776
middle tennesse
james cash
thanks
ben
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ben taylor
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| Subject: | Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! |
Congrats Gene!!!
Guys like you inspire guys like US!
Al Lyscars
Portland, Maine
Working the GN-1 rib jig this winter
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From: "Gene Hubbard" <enhubbard@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 10:36 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate !
> I started building NX421GN about 7 1/2 years ago. It got its
> airworthiness certificate today! Thanks to those (Mike Cuy and Jack
> Phillips in particular) who made suggestions that changed the way I
> built it.
>
> First flight when it's good and ready (but probably this year).
>
> Gene Hubbard
> San Diego, CA.
>
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| Subject: | Re: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate ! |
Gene,
Great job!!!! Send me an email when you take to the air and I will
come down and film it for you. Carl will probably want to come as well.
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!
Doug B.
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From: Gene Hubbard<mailto:enhubbard@sbcglobal.net>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 7:36 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: NX421GN Has Airworthiness Certificate !
I started building NX421GN about 7 1/2 years ago. It got its
airworthiness certificate today! Thanks to those (Mike Cuy and Jack
Phillips in particular) who made suggestions that changed the way I
built it.
First flight when it's good and ready (but probably this year).
Gene Hubbard
San Diego, CA.
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Thanks all to the rib question. Work on my 2nd Piet is winding down and
I don't have any projects left that I can work on here at home now. The
wings are getting the finishing touches before covering and controlls
are hooked up. I was thinking of building a boat next but then got to
thinking of a flying boat. So I have decided to build a Volmer VJ 22
next. I need something enclosed to fly in the winter months. You can
also put skiis on the VJ22. The only problem is the list for Volmer
builders is not very active and not so good for support and the plans
are massive. Slicing up wing cap strips and building wing ribs is a
good project for long Minnesota nights. Only 8 hrs of daylight now.
Western Red Cedar is very common here and I've got a bunch in the shop
anyway. White cedar is used a lot in boatbuilding for planking. Red it
is.
Dick N.
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Hi Group and Gene,
I just wanted to send my congradulations to Gene also on getting his airworthniess certificate out of the way! I would like to let everyone know that possibly next week or so I will be starting my wing ribs down in my basement. I was wondering if anyone might have few tips for me? The glue I am using is FASCO #110. its the paste version in case some of you don't anything about it! I plan on setting up 2 jigs! This will keep me busy while the waiting game rolls on for robb to get his garage heated. the temp in my basement is at least 50 degrees or so. I will be updating our progress at my website www.ben-aircamper.4t.com.
take Care,
Ben Ramler
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Music (slightly OT) |
Thanks... the Gooney Bird song was especially great! :)
-M
Mike Whaley merlin@ov-10bronco.net
Webmaster, OV-10 Bronco Association
http://www.ov-10bronco.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Verthein" <minoxphotographer@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 7:35 AM
Subject: [piet] Pietenpol-List: Flying Music (slightly OT)
<minoxphotographer@yahoo.com>
>
> Back in the early 70's, my Dad had a couple record albums by a
> folksinger named Oscar Brand. These 2 records were all flying songs,
> one Lp dedicated to general aviation! The songs are clean, humorous,
> and, darn it, quite amusing. I absconded with these records when I
> moved out a long long time ago, and recently dug them out. Near as I
> can tell these can't be purchased on a current release. I have found a
> few Oscar Brand compilation CD's, but it seems impossible to get all
> the airplane songs.
>
> SO.....I took the well played LP and dubbed in into my computer and
> made mp3's out of the tracks and uploaded them to my web server several
> months ago. Completely forgot about them till just now, and it dawned
> on me...that ya'll might enjoy giving them a listen. That said:
>
> http://www.edselmotors.com/oscarbrand/
>
> Should take you to a file directory of mp3's. If you've got a decent
> internet connection you should be able to grab the songs in a few
> minutes. They're all pretty much light plane theme songs, and general
> flying songs that would apply to anyone flying anything in general
> aviation. I even burned the tracks to CD to play in the car, which
> drives th' wife nuts.
>
> And to make the post relevant, decided to go with long fuse, 'Vair
> power, 3 piece wing, and hopefully get started building ribs once we
> get past the holidays! Oh..and I have lots of tools on my letter to
> Santa!
>
> Tim in Bovey
>
> ==
> You *can* repair a flip-flop with a capacitor!
> ==
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ribs continued |
I like WRC a lot. I would say it's my favourite wood for
pretty much everything. It carves wonderfully and makes
mellow flutes. I had thought of using it for my spars but
to get the same strength as 1" Spruce or Hemlock would
require 1 1/2" in Cedar. The weight would be the same
at that width as well. Unfortunately the reception to that
was decidedly cool from the local inspection people even
though I have all the pertinent Forestry charts to back up
my claims. And then there's the changes that would have
to be made to accomodate that extra width.
This means that if you use the 1/2" X 1/4" dimensions
for rib caps, the strength will be approximately 2/3 that
of the same size spruce. Since some knowledgable
people seem to think that 1/4" X 1/4" caps are strong
enough then full size in WRC should be fine as that
would fall half way between the two.
Clif, in the land of Tall Cedars
PS, I have some 800 year old cedar drying in my
woodpile as we speak. :-)
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ribs continued
Western Red Cedar is very common here and I've got a bunch in the shop
anyway. White cedar is used a lot in boatbuilding for planking. Red it
is.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: movie inaccuracies done right--Airplane |
I don't suppose you watched Ferry Command Harvey?
The crap in that is straight out of the 30's. The first thing
that snapped me to attention was a DC-3, on the ramp in
1940 with turbines. The cockpit of the Ventura's was a
sight to behold! There were other such things to detract
from the experience too! It is a story that has never really
been addressed except as a Hollywood backdrop. This
time the story was very well done. Too bad they screwed
it up with the planes.
Ranting Clif
What the movie Dr Strange Love and look closely at the shadow of the
B52 on the ground as it flies along.It is the shadow of a B17(;-) enjoy!
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