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1. 05:39 AM - Re: Charlies ribs (Skip-Cinda Gadd)
2. 05:53 AM - Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-in (Kip and Beth Gardner)
3. 05:53 AM - Have a wonderful holiday! (Jim Markle)
4. 05:53 AM - Re: Cold weather head gear (Skip-Cinda Gadd)
5. 07:52 AM - Re: Re: Aircamper Valve Covers (del magsam)
6. 07:52 AM - Merry Christmas (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
7. 08:16 AM - Re: Merry Christmas (Hans Vander Voort)
8. 08:40 AM - Re: Cold weather head gear (Shawn Wolk)
9. 08:47 AM - Re: Merry Christmas ()
10. 11:01 AM - Re: Cold weather head gear (gbowen@ptialaska.net)
11. 11:52 AM - aluminum heads (dslane@logical.net)
12. 12:11 PM - Re: Re: Cold weather head gear (Jdavis2a@wmconnect.com)
13. 01:27 PM - Re: Cold weather head gear ()
14. 02:47 PM - Re: Re: Cold weather head gear (Gene & Tammy)
15. 03:01 PM - Re: Cold weather head gear (Gene & Tammy)
16. 03:33 PM - Re: Cold weather head gear (Gene & Tammy)
17. 05:10 PM - Re: Cold weather head gear (gbowen@ptialaska.net)
18. 06:02 PM - Re: Charlies ribs (Clif Dawson)
19. 06:16 PM - Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-in (Don Emch)
20. 06:49 PM - Merry Christmas (Don Emch)
21. 07:01 PM - N174LS aircamper clarance Solmon watyertown Wisconsin (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
22. 07:23 PM - Re: Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-in (Kip and Beth Gardner)
23. 07:34 PM - Re: Charlies ribs (Kip and Beth Gardner)
24. 09:36 PM - Re: Cold weather head gear (Jdavis2a@wmconnect.com)
25. 09:57 PM - Re: Have a wonderful holiday! (Dick Navratil)
26. 10:11 PM - Re: Cold weather head gear (Gene & Tammy)
27. 10:15 PM - Re: Merry Christmas (Gene & Tammy)
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Dick,
All the replys for red Cedar got me wondering, so I looked up my notes.
At the 1992 Brodhead Piet fly-in Charlie gave a demo on his rib building, during
which he had the biggest guy in the crowd stand on one of his ribs, held in
a special jig, and it didn't break! Anyway from my notes of July 31, 1992, Charlie
said the wood he used is Port Orford Cedar.
I Goolged Port Orford Cedar.
http://www.mastergardenproducts.com/portorfordcedar.htm
It is one of the White Cedars and lists one of the uses as aircraft plywood. Also
said it may have a slight red color to it. Also said the ginger smell it gives
off may cause kidney problems, so be carful.
Skip
----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Navratil
Does anyone who bought ribs from Charlie Rubek recall the type of wood he used
to make them? He told me once but I can't remember now if it was White Cedar
or Western Red Cedar.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-in |
Hi Don, Everyone,
OK, that's Forrest's opinion & is grist for the mill. Keep in mind
that the Taylorcraft event is Forrest's baby, with EAA 82 involved
only in the capacity of serving breakfast. What happens at that
event is completely under Forrest's control, which has positives and
negatives.
EAA 82's relationship with Forrest is generally good, but he often
has agendas for what he does at the airport that can be different
from what the chapter is trying to achieve.
I would suggest that we talk directly to EAA 82 (easy enough, since
I'm a member & past Prez, although personal events have kept me
uninvolved for the past few months & that's about to change).
We (EAA 82) had our initial Corvair "Wings & Wheels" event this year
& the timing was bad - it's often very stormy in early June, and the
weather was awful this year. The only Corvair-powered plane that made
it was William Wynne'sa representative, although we did have a
turnout of about 30 cars, including a totally cool, beautifully
restored Corvair-powered Porsch ("PorschAir" ?). We are now starting
to plan the event for this coming year. If Forrest & Brian Matz
(Prez of Ohio Aeronca Aviators) are combining the Aeronca & T-Craft
events this year, that opens up an August slot at the airport for the
Corvair event & I think that might be a better one to combine with
any Pietenpol event that might happen because of the historical
connection. Weather in mid August is usually beautiful, so we'd have
a better turnout, especially if we included all of the Piets that are
in the reguion.
I'll bring this up with the Chapter leadership at our Christmas party
this weekend & get back to the list.
Regards,
Kip Gardner
At 6:59 PM -0800 12/12/06, Don Emch wrote:
>
>I talked to Forrest Barber a few days ago about Barber Airport and
>the EAA chapter hosting a Pietenpol Fly-in. He said it could be
>arranged for the Pietenpol guys to have their own gathering but he
>suggested it may be better to piggyback with another fly-in. In the
>past they have hosted the Taylorcraft Fly-in (Barber Airport, which
>is in Alliance, Ohio is very rich in Taylorcraft history) and the
>Ohio Aeronca Aviators Fly-in. These have been two separate fly-ins,
>however this year they are combining them into one. Forrest
>suggested we make it the Taylorcraft/Aeronca/Pietenpol Fly-in. By
>doing this we can count on the EAA chapter's breakfast on Saturday
>and Sunday and the Friday evening meal. The dates they have set for
>the fly-in are the weekend of July 6,7, and 8, 2007. I know it is a
>way off but maybe mark it on the calendar. There are hotels in
>Alliance and there is plenty of space for primitive camping on the
>field for both aircraft and rv's. Frank Pavliga hanga!
> rs his Sky Gypsy Pietenpol there and I will have mine there. I'm
>sure with some arm twisting we could get others. Mike Cuy and Will
>Graff aren't too far. Shad Bell is within an hour and a half or so.
>It would be cool to have these guys because we could have Ford,
>Corvair, and Continental represented. We could even try to organize
>some type of forum/meeting if there is interest. Check out these
>websites;
>
>http://www.barberaircraft.com/
>http://www.oaafly-in.com/
>http://www.taylorcraft.org/
>
>Don Emch
>NX899DE
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>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=81187#81187
>
>
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North Canton, OH
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| Subject: | Have a wonderful holiday! |
Hey Navratil, there are 3 big deer grazing in my front yard as I type this....wish
you were here!
Here's wishing everyone on the list a great holiday season and Pietenpol dreams!
Someone recently commented on what a great group this is.....and I agree.
>From (as Tom Travis likes to call it....) Indian Territory,
Jim
do not archive
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| Subject: | Cold weather head gear |
Gene,
EAA Sport Pilot & Light-Sport Aircraft December 2006 page 50, one page before the
picture of Han's pretty Piet. Article about using a hardhat liner from welding
supply houses about $7.00.
Cut holes for the headset about 1" smaller then the headset earmuffs.
Skip
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene & Tammy
Wondering what everyone is doing for cold weather flying head gear? How did you
make it or where did you buy it and how good (or bad) would you rate it? Gene
N502R
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| Subject: | Re: Aircamper Valve Covers |
Ask him if he will sell the casting pattern. That belongs to him even if the foundry
made it.
Del
Tim Verthein <minoxphotographer@yahoo.com> wrote:
I just wrote to the fella who was selling them, and the reply I
received a week or so ago states:
"I have stopped making the Air Camper valve covers. The foundry that
was casting them for me found out they were going on airplanes and
refused to make anymore"
So, there ya go. Gonna be a long time till I need any, but really
wanted a pair!
Tim in Bovey
"I am wondering if the Corvair "Aircamper" valve covers are still
available. I called the number listed on :
http://users.aol.com/bpabpa7315/tm.html. , but it was disconnected.
Thanks in advance for any help you can give."
==
You *can* repair a flip-flop with a capacitor!
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Have a burning question?
Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know.
Del-New Richmond, Wi
"farmerdel@rocketmail.com"
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Jim M. and others: Every day is a happy holiday when you're a member
of the Pietenpol e-mail discussion group so I'm going to
post (even though it is a bit early) the sometimes politically incorrect
(but I really don't give a rip) Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to
all.
(even if you don't believe in Santy Claus)
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Merry Christmas |
Mike,
The same to you and every one else.
"HAPPY HOLIDAYS"
For my politically / cultural sensitive friends - Please accept with no
obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally
conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral
celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most
enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular
practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion
and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or
secular traditions at all.
I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically
uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar
year 2007, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other
cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great. Not
to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country nor the
only America in the Western Hemisphere . Also, this wish is made without
regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith or
sexual preference of the wishee.
By accepting these greetings, you are accepting the aforementioned terms as
stated. This greeting is not subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is
freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies
no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for
herself/himself/ others, and is void where prohibited by law and is
revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher.
This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application
of good tidings for a period of one year or until the issuance of a
subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited
to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole
discretion of the wisher.
For all my other Friends - Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Hans
"Cuy, Michael D.
(GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]"
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Jim M. and others: Every day is a happy holiday when you're a member of
the Pietenpol e-mail discussion group so I'm going to
post (even though it is a bit early) the sometimes politically incorrect
(but I really don't give a rip) Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all.
(even if you don't believe in Santy Claus)
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Cold weather head gear |
Hello List,
I regularly fly in cold weather with my Piet up here in Canada. I've
experimented with lots of headgear. And I can assure you, this will work
as it's been tested to -14C or 6F.
A snowmobile style balaclava. Not the sewn wool ones, but the
polyester fabric. They usually have flaps on both the front and back
that go into your coat. This insulates your neck, and they are thin
enough on top for another layer. They also will wick away the moisture
to your next layer. Then on top a work wear type aviator style cap.
These are made with a heavy cotton duck outer shell, and are lined with
insulating polyester and then smooth fabric lined. If you want to use a
headset. Cut out holes on each side just a wee bit smaller than the
headset seals. The idea is for the headset to kind a snap in at the
headset seal cut-outs. When I made mine I had piping sewn in to stiffen
up the shape of the hole and make better sealing. The balaclava
underneath fits tight enough that the headset still works to keep things
quiet. Ant other system that I have tried. Including a hardhat liner
instead of the bella clave were inefficient. The multiple layers around
the ear section allowed noise to come in.
The specific aviator cap work wear item is made by Richelieu
Sportwear here in Winnipeg MB. Usually retails for less than $20.00 CDN.
If you cannot find one locally I can send you one. The snowmobile bella
clava is available from snowmobile specialty shops. Often they will have
a double layer in the area that wouldn't be covered by a helmet. Some
will also have a flap that covers the nose and mouth. With one of these
models, after goggles are put on there is no exposed skin. My Piet has a
fairly large windscreen, so I find the coldest part was the back of the
neck area. Must be a vortex of air blasting back there. That is why I
chose a balaclava with the insulated flap (outside of the area a helmet
would cover). If you cannot find one of those, a scarf would do the same
thing. Just much clumsier to put on.
The ice on the lakes here in Southern Manitoba is thick enough for
ski flying operations now. So I have already been logging the hours. You
can't beat the smooth air and excellent performance of the cold crisp
air.
Shawn Wolk
C-FRAZ 1933 Pietenpol Aircamper
Winnipeg, MB
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MERRY CHRISTMAS!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hans
Vander Voort
Sent: December 13, 2006 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Merry Christmas
<hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com>
Mike,
The same to you and every one else.
"HAPPY HOLIDAYS"
For my politically / cultural sensitive friends - Please accept with no
obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally
conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive,
gender-neutral
celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most
enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or
secular
practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular
persuasion
and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious
or
secular traditions at all.
I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and
medically
uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted
calendar
year 2007, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of
other
cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great.
Not
to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country nor
the
only America in the Western Hemisphere . Also, this wish is made without
regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith
or
sexual preference of the wishee.
By accepting these greetings, you are accepting the aforementioned terms
as
stated. This greeting is not subject to clarification or withdrawal. It
is
freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It
implies
no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for
herself/himself/ others, and is void where prohibited by law and is
revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher.
This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual
application
of good tidings for a period of one year or until the issuance of a
subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is
limited
to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole
discretion of the wisher.
For all my other Friends - Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Hans
"Cuy, Michael D.
(GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]"
<michael.d.cuy@na
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12/13/2006 09:52
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Please respond to
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Jim M. and others: Every day is a happy holiday when you're a member
of
the Pietenpol e-mail discussion group so I'm going to
post (even though it is a bit early) the sometimes politically incorrect
(but I really don't give a rip) Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to
all.
(even if you don't believe in Santy Claus)
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Cold weather head gear |
Gene,
You gotta miss AK. RE headgear, I have an older buddy that is good with
electronics, he took a $100 full face shield motorcycle helmet and
installed a speaker in one ear, then hooked up to his handheld with push to
talk button. I've tried it, but have a hard time understanding air traffic
with one speaker, could be just his wiring. Suspect the fleece lined cap
from airspruce would work on any type of headset. DC's keep the ears warm
and the wind battering you get in an open cockpit plane is minimized with
the cap.
Gotta a place in Homer AK for 9 mos. year. Piete flyers welcome to come
visit.
Gordon Bowen
Original Message:
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From: Gene & Tammy zharvey@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cold weather head gear
Gordon,
Spent most of my life in Alaska (1960 to 1985 full time and up until this
year half time as a captain for Alaska Clean Seas in the Arctic.) so I'm
use
to being out in the cold but this humidity in the south is killling me. I
have looked at the hats in Airspruce but don't own a set of David Clarks
and
don't want to spend the money to get a set. I was hoping someone may have
made a helmet and still had the pattern. I agree on the motor cycle
goggles. They look great!
Thanks
Gene
N502R
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Hi
Thanks to everyone who responded to my questiions about shock cords and cg.
I would like to know if anyone has experience using a Thomas aluminum
cylinder head on their A, re: tapping into the water jacket for the
steam connection?
If anyone has done this, did they thread it into the head or weld it?
thanks Don
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| Subject: | Re: Cold weather head gear |
Go to perroneleather.com. Many types of aviator flying helmets, both cloth
and leather. JIM
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| Subject: | Re: Cold weather head gear |
When I get my Piet done I will fly down from Anchorage!
Rob Stapleton
www.eaa42.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "gbowen@ptialaska.net" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cold weather head gear
> <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
> Gene,
> You gotta miss AK. RE headgear, I have an older buddy that is
good
> withelectronics, he took a $100 full face shield motorcycle
helmet and
> installed a speaker in one ear, then hooked up to his handheld
with
> push to
> talk button. I've tried it, but have a hard time understanding air
> trafficwith one speaker, could be just his wiring. Suspect the
> fleece lined cap
> from airspruce would work on any type of headset. DC's keep
the
> ears warm
> and the wind battering you get in an open cockpit plane is
> minimized with
> the cap.
> Gotta a place in Homer AK for 9 mos. year. Piete flyers welcome
to
> comevisit.
> Gordon Bowen
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Gene & Tammy zharvey@bellsouth.net
> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:37:25 -0600
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cold weather head gear
>
>
> <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
> Gordon,
> Spent most of my life in Alaska (1960 to 1985 full time and up
> until this
> year half time as a captain for Alaska Clean Seas in the Arctic.)
> so I'm
> use
> to being out in the cold but this humidity in the south is killling
> me. I
> have looked at the hats in Airspruce but don't own a set of David
> Clarksand
> don't want to spend the money to get a set. I was hoping
someone
> may have
> made a helmet and still had the pattern. I agree on the motor
> cycle
> goggles. They look great!
> Thanks
> Gene
> N502R
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| Subject: | Re: Cold weather head gear |
Thanks Jim, great site with plenty to drool over.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Jdavis2a@wmconnect.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com ; Pietenpol-List@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cold weather head gear
Go to perroneleather.com. Many types of aviator flying helmets, both
cloth and leather. JIM
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| Subject: | Re: Cold weather head gear |
Douglas,
When I want first class stuff I'll sure go to this site. They sure have
some nice leather items but for now more costly than I want to go.
Thank you
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: DOUGLAS BLACKBURN
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cold weather head gear
Gene,
Check out this link. It is in the UK, but it sure looks like nice
equipment....
http://www.flyingjacket.com/
DB
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene & Tammy
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 8:46 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cold weather head gear
Wondering what everyone is doing for cold weather flying head gear?
How did you make it or where did you buy it and how good (or bad) would
you rate it? Last weekend was down into the 30's and it was a little
cool on my head ( my windscreen is too short or my body is too tall).
If you made your own head gear, how about some photos and
instructions on how you did it? Can you use a head set with it?
When I owned an Avid I followed the Avid list and thought it was
great. Doesn't hold a candle to this group. What a great bunch of
dreamers and doers! I'm proud to be a member.
Gene
N502R
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| Subject: | Re: Cold weather head gear |
Michael,
So much to check out! As I have more time I will go thru it all. Russian
flying goggles would be great!
Thanks
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "MICHAEL SILVIUS" <M.Silvius@worldnet.att.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cold weather head gear
> <M.Silvius@worldnet.att.net>
>
> check out http://www.majorsurplusandsurvival.com/
>
> go to products and search for clothing.
> then do search for goggles they have about 6 diferent kinds.
>
> somewhere in their catalog I have seen leather flying helmets as well
> though
> cant see to find any right now.
>
> cold weather face protection
> http://www.majorsurplusnsurvival.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=0807551&Category_Code=149
>
> russian flying goggles:
> http://www.majorsurplusnsurvival.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=MSS&Product_Code=0877971&Category_Code=23
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| Subject: | Re: Cold weather head gear |
Rob,
Come on down, I'm in the phone book. My Piete will remain in FL, Homer
only gives me about 5 mos./yr flying weather. Except this summer it was
only about 3 mos. If it wasn't for the 22 gal tank and limited range, I'd
think about flying the Alcan someday but probably if plane is to make it to
AK it will be on a trailer.
Gordon Bowen
Original Message:
-----------------
From: foto@alaska.net
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cold weather head gear
When I get my Piet done I will fly down from Anchorage!
Rob Stapleton
www.eaa42.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "gbowen@ptialaska.net" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cold weather head gear
> <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
> Gene,
> You gotta miss AK. RE headgear, I have an older buddy that is
good
> withelectronics, he took a $100 full face shield motorcycle
helmet and
> installed a speaker in one ear, then hooked up to his handheld
with
> push to
> talk button. I've tried it, but have a hard time understanding air
> trafficwith one speaker, could be just his wiring. Suspect the
> fleece lined cap
> from airspruce would work on any type of headset. DC's keep
the
> ears warm
> and the wind battering you get in an open cockpit plane is
> minimized with
> the cap.
> Gotta a place in Homer AK for 9 mos. year. Piete flyers welcome
to
> comevisit.
> Gordon Bowen
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Gene & Tammy zharvey@bellsouth.net
> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:37:25 -0600
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cold weather head gear
>
>
> <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
> Gordon,
> Spent most of my life in Alaska (1960 to 1985 full time and up
> until this
> year half time as a captain for Alaska Clean Seas in the Arctic.)
> so I'm
> use
> to being out in the cold but this humidity in the south is killling
> me. I
> have looked at the hats in Airspruce but don't own a set of David
> Clarksand
> don't want to spend the money to get a set. I was hoping
someone
> may have
> made a helmet and still had the pattern. I agree on the motor
> cycle
> goggles. They look great!
> Thanks
> Gene
> N502R
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| Subject: | Re: Charlies ribs |
Density Compression
Strength Tensile
Spruce-----------------------31lb/ft-------------4500lb/in---------------
-----6700lb/in
Port Orford
Cedar--------29lb/ft-------------5800lb/in--------------------7300lb/in
>From the chart at the bottom of this page;
http://clifdawson.ca/Tools_and_Tips.html
Good stuff if you can get it.
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: Skip-Cinda Gadd
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 5:39 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Charlies ribs
Dick,
All the replys for red Cedar got me wondering, so I looked up my
notes.
At the 1992 Brodhead Piet fly-in Charlie gave a demo on his rib
building, during which he had the biggest guy in the crowd stand on one
of his ribs, held in a special jig, and it didn't break! Anyway from my
notes of July 31, 1992, Charlie said the wood he used is Port Orford
Cedar.
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-in |
Kip,
I really don't want to be stepping on anyone's toes. I just thought I would make
a move and try to get something together. Whatever you want to do, doesn't
matter to me I was just looking to have a good time with other Piet guys. I'll
still plan on flying in for the T-Craft Fly-in, just because I enjoy it. Whatever
else the chapter wants to do is fine. I'll mark it on the calendar and
hope other Pieters do too.
Don Emch
NX899DE
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=81417#81417
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Dashing through the snow...
In a 65 horse open sleigh...
Merry Christmas!
Don Emch
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=81421#81421
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| Subject: | N174LS aircamper clarance Solmon watyertown Wisconsin |
any body know anything about this Gregg 1 built in 1994 and inspected by
ANP jim stark 0r FAA rep Stephen Moe?? This peat ended up in Michigan and
is now for sale. Irwin Davis may know something about this because he sold it
to the present owner. you can send me a message off line if you want.
Malcolm Brubaker current kit fox pilot and potential piet owner
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| Subject: | Re: Ohio Pietenpol Fly-in |
Don,
Not to worry, you're not stepping on any toes as far as I'm
concerned. I just wanted to suggest an alternative plan, but at this
point I can't say which idea would be the best choice. Let's see
what Chapter 82 wants to do & go from there.
Like you said, the important thing is to have a good time with other
Piet guys & I'm sure that's really all anyone else cares about too,
I'm glad you did check with Forrest, so that we know doing something
during the T-Craft Fly-in would be an option.
Cheers!
Kip Gardner
At 6:16 PM -0800 12/13/06, Don Emch wrote:
>
>Kip,
>I really don't want to be stepping on anyone's toes. I just thought
>I would make a move and try to get something together. Whatever you
>want to do, doesn't matter to me I was just looking to have a good
>time with other Piet guys. I'll still plan on flying in for the
>T-Craft Fly-in, just because I enjoy it. Whatever else the chapter
>wants to do is fine. I'll mark it on the calendar and hope other
>Pieters do too.
>Don Emch
>NX899DE
>
--
North Canton, OH
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| Subject: | Re: Charlies ribs |
Like Clif says, good stuff if you can get it. Don't know where
Charlie did, but Port Orford Cedar is likely pretty tough to come by
these days & I don't even want to think about what it likely would
cost!
Port Orford used to be the wood of choice for arrow shafts back in
the days before carbon fiber - extremely straight-grained & the
numbers Clif mentioned speak for themselves.
Unfortunately, it was never one of the more abundant species in the
forest & with current timbering practices, what winds up at the mill
these days is probably mixed in with other species and not
specifically processed to be marketed as Port Orford.
Kip Gardner
At 5:59 PM -0800 12/13/06, Clif Dawson wrote:
> Density Compression
>Strength Tensile
>Spruce-----------------------31lb/ft-------------4500lb/in--------------------6700lb/in
>Port Orford
>Cedar--------29lb/ft-------------5800lb/in--------------------7300lb/in
>
>From the chart at the bottom of this page;
>
><http://clifdawson.ca/Tools_and_Tips.html>http://clifdawson.ca/Tools_and_Tips.html
>
>Good stuff if you can get it.
>
>Clif
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:csfog@earthlink.net>Skip-Cinda Gadd
>To: <mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 5:39 AM
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Charlies ribs
>
>Dick,
>All the replys for red Cedar got me wondering, so I looked up my notes.
>At the 1992 Brodhead Piet fly-in Charlie gave a demo on his rib
>building, during which he had the biggest guy in the crowd stand on
>one of his ribs, held in a special jig, and it didn't break! Anyway
>from my notes of July 31, 1992, Charlie said the wood he used
>is Port Orford Cedar.
--
North Canton, OH
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| Subject: | Re: Cold weather head gear |
Go to: perroneleather.com. They have about any type of leather or cloth
helmet you could want. A little pricy but the best. I have a set of leather for
winter and cloth for summer. They also have lots of other aviation leather
stuff. JIM
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| Subject: | Re: Have a wonderful holiday! |
Thanks a lot Jim. Now that the season has ended, I had a similar scene in
my back yard.
You all have a great Christmas too.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Markle" <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 7:53 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Have a wonderful holiday!
> Hey Navratil, there are 3 big deer grazing in my front yard as I type
> this....wish you were here!
>
> Here's wishing everyone on the list a great holiday season and Pietenpol
> dreams!
>
> Someone recently commented on what a great group this is.....and I agree.
>
>>From (as Tom Travis likes to call it....) Indian Territory,
>
> Jim
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cold weather head gear |
Rob,
Were you or are you with the Daily News? Knew a Rob Stapleton that worked
there in the late 70's and early 80's.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: <foto@alaska.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cold weather head gear
>
> When I get my Piet done I will fly down from Anchorage!
> Rob Stapleton
> www.eaa42.org
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "gbowen@ptialaska.net" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
> Date: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:59 am
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cold weather head gear
>
>> <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
>> Gene,
>> You gotta miss AK. RE headgear, I have an older buddy that is
> good
>> withelectronics, he took a $100 full face shield motorcycle
> helmet and
>> installed a speaker in one ear, then hooked up to his handheld
> with
>> push to
>> talk button. I've tried it, but have a hard time understanding air
>> trafficwith one speaker, could be just his wiring. Suspect the
>> fleece lined cap
>> from airspruce would work on any type of headset. DC's keep
> the
>> ears warm
>> and the wind battering you get in an open cockpit plane is
>> minimized with
>> the cap.
>> Gotta a place in Homer AK for 9 mos. year. Piete flyers welcome
> to
>> comevisit.
>> Gordon Bowen
>>
>> Original Message:
>> -----------------
>> From: Gene & Tammy zharvey@bellsouth.net
>> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:37:25 -0600
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cold weather head gear
>>
>>
>> <zharvey@bellsouth.net>
>> Gordon,
>> Spent most of my life in Alaska (1960 to 1985 full time and up
>> until this
>> year half time as a captain for Alaska Clean Seas in the Arctic.)
>> so I'm
>> use
>> to being out in the cold but this humidity in the south is killling
>> me. I
>> have looked at the hats in Airspruce but don't own a set of David
>> Clarksand
>> don't want to spend the money to get a set. I was hoping
> someone
>> may have
>> made a helmet and still had the pattern. I agree on the motor
>> cycle
>> goggles. They look great!
>> Thanks
>> Gene
>> N502R
>> ----- > -----------------
>> >>
>> >
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>> > http://mail2web.com/ .
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| Subject: | Re: Merry Christmas |
Hans,
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you. Just had to send your "Happy
Holidays" on to some friends. What a hoot!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hans Vander Voort" <hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Merry Christmas
> <hans.vander.voort@alfalaval.com>
>
> Mike,
>
> The same to you and every one else.
>
> "HAPPY HOLIDAYS"
>
> For my politically / cultural sensitive friends - Please accept with no
> obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally
> conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral
> celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most
> enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or
> secular
> practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular
> persuasion
> and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or
> secular traditions at all.
>
> I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically
> uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar
> year 2007, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of
> other
> cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great.
> Not
> to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country nor
> the
> only America in the Western Hemisphere . Also, this wish is made without
> regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith
> or
> sexual preference of the wishee.
>
> By accepting these greetings, you are accepting the aforementioned terms
> as
> stated. This greeting is not subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is
> freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It
> implies
> no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for
> herself/himself/ others, and is void where prohibited by law and is
> revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher.
>
> This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application
> of good tidings for a period of one year or until the issuance of a
> subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is
> limited
> to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole
> discretion of the wisher.
>
> For all my other Friends - Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
>
>
> Hans
>
>
> "Cuy, Michael D.
> (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]"
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>
>
> 12/13/2006 09:52
> AM
>
>
> Please respond to
> pietenpol-list@ma
> tronics.com
>
>
> Jim M. and others: Every day is a happy holiday when you're a member of
> the Pietenpol e-mail discussion group so I'm going to
> post (even though it is a bit early) the sometimes politically incorrect
> (but I really don't give a rip) Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all.
> (even if you don't believe in Santy Claus)
>
> Mike C.
>
>
>
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