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1. 05:28 AM - Model Pietenpol (Bill Church)
2. 05:30 AM - fly-in's in general (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
3. 05:47 AM - Re: fly-in's in general ()
4. 07:06 AM - Re: fly-in's in general (Kip and Beth Gardner)
5. 09:29 AM - organizing/planning (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
6. 10:57 AM - Re: Model Pietenpol (Scott Schreiber)
7. 12:13 PM - Re: Model Pietenpol (DJ Vegh)
8. 12:22 PM - Model Pietenpol (Barry Davis)
9. 01:05 PM - Re: Model Pietenpol (Bill Church)
10. 02:20 PM - Re: Model Pietenpol (Scott Schreiber)
11. 04:06 PM - Ohio Piets (shad bell)
12. 06:30 PM - Re: Model Pietenpol (n925wb1@aol.com)
13. 09:09 PM - Re: Model Pietenpol (Scott Schreiber)
14. 09:15 PM - Re: Ohio Piets (Gene & Tammy)
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With winter setting in, the appeal of working out in the garage workshop
becomes less and less as the temperature drops. So, while the snow
starts to fly outdoors, I have a R/C Pietenpol model kit to build
indoors. It's the one made by Dumas (picture attached). It's electric
powered. This is where my question comes in. I am familiar with glow
motors, and making substitutions with those powerplants is fairly
straightforward. But these electric motors are something new to me. The
plans call for a Faulhaber DC-117 motor with a 1524 gearbox. I can't
seem to find a source for such a beast. Do any of you guys out there
know where to get one of these? Or, failing that, do any of you know of
a good substitute motor that's more readily available?
Bill C
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| Subject: | fly-in's in general |
Don, group-- Yes, joining another fly-in is a good way to go for any
gathering much like the Hatz guys did at Brodhead a year or two ago. I
find that I'm much more inclined to attend a fly-in w/ my plane if I
know there will be many other planes to look at once I've landed. I
think that can be said for 95% of us who are able to and do go to
fly-in's when we can.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | fly-in's in general |
Once you land your plane at any flyin,doesn't it automatically become a
Pietenpol flyin no matter what other planes are there,the Piet is the
best!
Do not archive
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy,
Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
Sent: December 15, 2006 8:30 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: fly-in's in general
Don, group-- Yes, joining another fly-in is a good way to go for any
gathering much like the Hatz guys did at Brodhead a year or two ago. I
find that I'm much more inclined to attend a fly-in w/ my plane if I
know there will be many other planes to look at once I've landed. I
think that can be said for 95% of us who are able to and do go to
fly-in's when we can.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: fly-in's in general |
Well, I guess the Voice Of Authority has spoken, so I'm backing out of this.
Need to get back to building anyway.
Cheers,
Kip Gardner
At 7:30 AM -0600 12/15/06, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC] wrote:
>Don, group-- Yes, joining another fly-in is a good way to go for any
>gathering much like the Hatz guys did at Brodhead a year or two ago.
>I find that I'm much more inclined to attend a fly-in w/ my plane if
>I know there will be many other planes to look at once I've landed.
>I think that can be said for 95% of us who are able to and do go to
>fly-in's when we can.
>
>Mike C.
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North Canton, OH
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| Subject: | organizing/planning |
Hey Kip-- I say go for it if you'd like to organize a stand-alone Ohio
Piet fly-in. More power to you, seriously. My opinion is just that and
I'm only saying I'm more likely to bring my plane to a place where I can
see other planes---even at Brodhead I'm there to see other planes
besides Piets, which makes it all the more attractive to attend. A stand
alone event would be just fine too though, I'm just thinking you'd have
more attendance if you had another concurrent event going on--but then
again maybe not. Didn't mean to pee on your campfire---especially if
you're willing to organize something I say do what your gut tells you
and who shows up shows up, eh ? Nobody is an authority here but we all
have something to offer, that is for sure. Nothing is written in
stone---just read the Tony Bingelis books. He usually gives you three
ways to complete a homebuilding job and then the choice is up to the
builder--just like organizing an event--go for it, man ! Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Model Pietenpol |
Bill, That is something I can help with. Allot of recent changes have
come down the road and smaller electric is better than ever.
The Faulhabers are available but are more trouble than they are worth.
You can hit any good hobby shop or towerhobbies.com and get a GWS IPS
(indoor power system) in a 4:1 gear ratio which they refer to as the A
ratio I think rather than just telling you the ratio, and about a 9x7 or
9x8 GWS prop. Then you just need a GWS 5 amp ESC and about a 400mah or
so 2 cell Lipo pack. Should run you about $60 for the whole package.
The GWS orange prop looks terrible until you take a black/brown marker
and color it and it suddenly looks like a nice wood grain.
-Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Church
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 8:27 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model Pietenpol
With winter setting in, the appeal of working out in the garage
workshop becomes less and less as the temperature drops. So, while the
snow starts to fly outdoors, I have a R/C Pietenpol model kit to build
indoors. It's the one made by Dumas (picture attached). It's electric
powered. This is where my question comes in. I am familiar with glow
motors, and making substitutions with those powerplants is fairly
straightforward. But these electric motors are something new to me. The
plans call for a Faulhaber DC-117 motor with a 1524 gearbox. I can't
seem to find a source for such a beast. Do any of you guys out there
know where to get one of these? Or, failing that, do any of you know of
a good substitute motor that's more readily available?
Bill C
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| Subject: | Re: Model Pietenpol |
I power my Speed 400 size Piet with an Eflite Park450 outrunner
brushless motor and 20amp speed control. I use a 10x6 slowfly prop.
It has a 3 cell lithium polymer battery pack and I get about 20 minute
flight times on a charge. Power is way more than you need but nice to
power yourself out of a bad situtation.
Mine is 4 channel but I mixed ailerons so that I can flip both up and
act as spoilerons. It really comes down fast when landing that way.
I love it!
here's some pics
http://imagedv.com/aircamper/log/image-pages/06-12-02.htm
DJ Vegh
veghdesign.com
Mesa, AZ
602.743.5768
"Where there's a will there's a Vegh"
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----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Schreiber
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model Pietenpol
Bill, That is something I can help with. Allot of recent changes have
come down the road and smaller electric is better than ever.
The Faulhabers are available but are more trouble than they are worth.
You can hit any good hobby shop or towerhobbies.com and get a GWS IPS
(indoor power system) in a 4:1 gear ratio which they refer to as the A
ratio I think rather than just telling you the ratio, and about a 9x7 or
9x8 GWS prop. Then you just need a GWS 5 amp ESC and about a 400mah or
so 2 cell Lipo pack. Should run you about $60 for the whole package.
The GWS orange prop looks terrible until you take a black/brown marker
and color it and it suddenly looks like a nice wood grain.
-Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Church
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 8:27 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model Pietenpol
With winter setting in, the appeal of working out in the garage
workshop becomes less and less as the temperature drops. So, while the
snow starts to fly outdoors, I have a R/C Pietenpol model kit to build
indoors. It's the one made by Dumas (picture attached). It's electric
powered. This is where my question comes in. I am familiar with glow
motors, and making substitutions with those powerplants is fairly
straightforward. But these electric motors are something new to me. The
plans call for a Faulhaber DC-117 motor with a 1524 gearbox. I can't
seem to find a source for such a beast. Do any of you guys out there
know where to get one of these? Or, failing that, do any of you know of
a good substitute motor that's more readily available?
Bill C
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Bill
I have an idea...why don't you build 2 and sell me one. That pic looks
great.
Barry Davis
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Thanks for the replies Scott and DJ,
Since I have no practical knowledge regarding electric powered flight, I
am attempting a guess at the size of the motor required, for the Dumas
model with a wingspan of 36". Flying weight is supposed to be 6 - 7 oz.
I guess 300 or 350? What do you think, guys?
I found a GWS website that has some dimensioned drawings of their EPS
units. I'll have to dig out the plans tonight to see if the GWS unit
will fit in the space of the Faulhaber. I can always modify the
structure if it's close.
Thanks for the feedback.
Bill C
P.S. Barry, that photo is a publicity photo. Not my model - it's still
a bunch of sticks in a box. I'll post some pics when I complete mine (if
it turns out nice enough).
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DJ Vegh
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model Pietenpol
I power my Speed 400 size Piet with an Eflite Park450 outrunner
brushless motor and 20amp speed control. I use a 10x6 slowfly prop.
It has a 3 cell lithium polymer battery pack and I get about 20 minute
flight times on a charge. Power is way more than you need but nice to
power yourself out of a bad situtation.
Mine is 4 channel but I mixed ailerons so that I can flip both up and
act as spoilerons. It really comes down fast when landing that way.
I love it!
here's some pics
http://imagedv.com/aircamper/log/image-pages/06-12-02.htm
DJ Vegh
veghdesign.com <http://www.veghdesign.com>
Mesa, AZ
602.743.5768
<http://www.veghdesign.com>
"Where there's a will there's a Vegh"
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----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Schreiber <mailto:got22b@SubaruBrat.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model Pietenpol
Bill, That is something I can help with. Allot of recent changes
have come down the road and smaller electric is better than ever.
The Faulhabers are available but are more trouble than they are
worth. You can hit any good hobby shop or towerhobbies.com and get a GWS
IPS (indoor power system) in a 4:1 gear ratio which they refer to as the
A ratio I think rather than just telling you the ratio, and about a 9x7
or 9x8 GWS prop. Then you just need a GWS 5 amp ESC and about a 400mah
or so 2 cell Lipo pack. Should run you about $60 for the whole package.
The GWS orange prop looks terrible until you take a black/brown
marker and color it and it suddenly looks like a nice wood grain.
-Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Church <mailto:eng@canadianrogers.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 8:27 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model Pietenpol
With winter setting in, the appeal of working out in the
garage workshop becomes less and less as the temperature drops. So,
while the snow starts to fly outdoors, I have a R/C Pietenpol model kit
to build indoors. It's the one made by Dumas (picture attached). It's
electric powered. This is where my question comes in. I am familiar with
glow motors, and making substitutions with those powerplants is fairly
straightforward. But these electric motors are something new to me. The
plans call for a Faulhaber DC-117 motor with a 1524 gearbox. I can't
seem to find a source for such a beast. Do any of you guys out there
know where to get one of these? Or, failing that, do any of you know of
a good substitute motor that's more readily available?
Bill C
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| Subject: | Re: Model Pietenpol |
A 300/400 would be much too heavy for the Dumas, it is a "large" plane
for it's weight. It is a lightweight floater and has a very light wing
loading. The IPS is a 180 sized motor and it will keep the plane light
but have pleanty of power for it. The GWS will fit fine in the Dumas,
under and inside the fake motor. Take a look at this part number on
Tower Hobbies: LXHHM0 for the IPS and LXHHX9 for the prop.
-Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Church
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 4:04 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Model Pietenpol
Thanks for the replies Scott and DJ,
Since I have no practical knowledge regarding electric powered flight,
I am attempting a guess at the size of the motor required, for the Dumas
model with a wingspan of 36". Flying weight is supposed to be 6 - 7 oz.
I guess 300 or 350? What do you think, guys?
I found a GWS website that has some dimensioned drawings of their EPS
units. I'll have to dig out the plans tonight to see if the GWS unit
will fit in the space of the Faulhaber. I can always modify the
structure if it's close.
Thanks for the feedback.
Bill C
P.S. Barry, that photo is a publicity photo. Not my model - it's
still a bunch of sticks in a box. I'll post some pics when I complete
mine (if it turns out nice enough).
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DJ Vegh
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:31 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model Pietenpol
I power my Speed 400 size Piet with an Eflite Park450 outrunner
brushless motor and 20amp speed control. I use a 10x6 slowfly prop.
It has a 3 cell lithium polymer battery pack and I get about 20 minute
flight times on a charge. Power is way more than you need but nice to
power yourself out of a bad situtation.
Mine is 4 channel but I mixed ailerons so that I can flip both up and
act as spoilerons. It really comes down fast when landing that way.
I love it!
here's some pics
http://imagedv.com/aircamper/log/image-pages/06-12-02.htm
DJ Vegh
veghdesign.com
Mesa, AZ
602.743.5768
"Where there's a will there's a Vegh"
-
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Schreiber
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model Pietenpol
Bill, That is something I can help with. Allot of recent changes
have come down the road and smaller electric is better than ever.
The Faulhabers are available but are more trouble than they are
worth. You can hit any good hobby shop or towerhobbies.com and get a GWS
IPS (indoor power system) in a 4:1 gear ratio which they refer to as the
A ratio I think rather than just telling you the ratio, and about a 9x7
or 9x8 GWS prop. Then you just need a GWS 5 amp ESC and about a 400mah
or so 2 cell Lipo pack. Should run you about $60 for the whole package.
The GWS orange prop looks terrible until you take a black/brown
marker and color it and it suddenly looks like a nice wood grain.
-Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Church
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 8:27 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model Pietenpol
With winter setting in, the appeal of working out in the garage
workshop becomes less and less as the temperature drops. So, while the
snow starts to fly outdoors, I have a R/C Pietenpol model kit to build
indoors. It's the one made by Dumas (picture attached). It's electric
powered. This is where my question comes in. I am familiar with glow
motors, and making substitutions with those powerplants is fairly
straightforward. But these electric motors are something new to me. The
plans call for a Faulhaber DC-117 motor with a 1524 gearbox. I can't
seem to find a source for such a beast. Do any of you guys out there
know where to get one of these? Or, failing that, do any of you know of
a good substitute motor that's more readily available?
Bill C
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Hello All, Dad and I will more than likely be at the WACO fly in this year at
Wyncoop in Mt Vrenon. If I am able I will also be at any other piet fly-ins in
the area. The waco fly in is pretty good, MERFI is also pretty good. I like
to see all the homebuilts and old "rag bags". As far as having to be an all
piet fly-in I say we just call it a taildragger fly-in. If we have it at a
"shorter" grass strip airport, say 2500- 3000ft runway (which some new hotshot
jet jockys call short), we will attract simmilar airplanes. Or maybe we call
it a homebuilt fly in, or grass roots fly in. I have a few guys here at Chapman
Field who want to get a fly in calender togeather and fly to some fly ins
as a group this summer. One has a Avid, one a Cub, And another few with an L-3,
a colt, and a Stinson 108. If we had it on grass it would probably discourage
the "Fast Glass" factory built "homebuilts". Although there is a guy in Delaware
OH who finnished his GP-4 a month after Dad
got his piet done, and MAN THAT THING MOVES! 260mph so far on 180hp, and its
all wood, I would like a ride in it. Don't be suprised to see it in Sport Aviation
some day, it is beutiful. Any ways, let me know if anyone decides anything
or if I can be of assistance.
Look forward to NOT being the only Piet at a fly-in next year,
Shad
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| Subject: | Re: Model Pietenpol |
Bill,
The IPS would likely be the ideal motor for the little Piet. I have one of those
kits, too, and was planning on either using that motor or a small brushless
motor in the GWS IPS gearbox. The GWS' stock brushed motor would probably fly
the plane just fine, but if you wanted more punch from your power system, you
could always upgrade to a 180-sized brushless motor that will bolt right into
the the GWS gearbox. These are available from several manufacturers, but I
have personally had success with the Fegaio brand of motors. These will require
a more expensive speed controller than the GWS motor, but will give you an
increase in both power and duration.
Check out www.rcgroups.com for more information about all types of R/C models. I'm sure that if you do a quick search you'll be able to find some more detailed insight into the Dumas Pietenpol.
-Wayne Bressler
www.taildraggersinc.com
-----Original Message-----
From: eng@canadianrogers.com
Sent: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 2:04 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Model Pietenpol
Thanks for the replies Scott and DJ,
Since I have no practical knowledge regarding electric powered flight, I am attempting
a guess at the size of the motor required, for the Dumas model with a
wingspan of 36". Flying weight is supposed to be 6 - 7 oz. I guess 300 or 350?
What do you think, guys?
I found a GWS website that has some dimensioned drawings of their EPS units. I'll
have to dig out the plans tonight to see if the GWS unit will fit in the space
of the Faulhaber. I can always modify the structure if it's close.
Thanks for the feedback.
Bill C
P.S. Barry, that photo is a publicity photo. Not my model - it's still a bunch
of sticks in a box. I'll post some pics when I complete mine (if it turns out
nice enough).
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DJ Vegh
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model Pietenpol
I power my Speed 400 size Piet with an Eflite Park450 outrunner brushless motor
and 20amp speed control. I use a 10x6 slowfly prop.
It has a 3 cell lithium polymer battery pack and I get about 20 minute flight times
on a charge. Power is way more than you need but nice to power yourself
out of a bad situtation.
Mine is 4 channel but I mixed ailerons so that I can flip both up and act as spoilerons.
It really comes down fast when landing that way.
I love it!
here's some pics
http://imagedv.com/aircamper/log/image-pages/06-12-02.htm
DJ Vegh
veghdesign.com
Mesa, AZ
602.743.5768
"Where there's a will there's a Vegh"
-
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Schreiber
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model Pietenpol
Bill, That is something I can help with. Allot of recent changes have come down
the road and smaller electric is better than ever.
The Faulhabers are available but are more trouble than they are worth. You can
hit any good hobby shop or towerhobbies.com and get a GWS IPS (indoor power system)
in a 4:1 gear ratio which they refer to as the A ratio I think rather than
just telling you the ratio, and about a 9x7 or 9x8 GWS prop. Then you just
need a GWS 5 amp ESC and about a 400mah or so 2 cell Lipo pack. Should run you
about $60 for the whole package.
The GWS orange prop looks terrible until you take a black/brown marker and color
it and it suddenly looks like a nice wood grain.
-Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Church
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 8:27 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model Pietenpol
With winter setting in, the appeal of working out in the garage workshop becomes
less and less as the temperature drops. So, while the snow starts to fly outdoors,
I have a R/C Pietenpol model kit to build indoors. It's the one made by
Dumas (picture attached). It's electric powered. This is where my question comes
in. I am familiar with glow motors, and making substitutions with those powerplants
is fairly straightforward. But these electric motors are something new
to me. The plans call for a Faulhaber DC-117 motor with a 1524 gearbox. I can't
seem to find a source for such a beast. Do any of you guys out there know
where to get one of these? Or, failing that, do any of you know of a good substitute
motor that's more readily available?
Bill C
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| Subject: | Re: Model Pietenpol |
Wayne is very correct, the Fiagios are amazing. If you are looking to
fly in a scale manner then the IPS will make you more than happy. If you
want vertical, then just replace the motor in the IPS with a Fegaio.
Brushless will do a few things for you other than more power, better
efficiency so more time from the same pack, and no real lifespan
limitations, no brushes to wear out. But also you might go through 2
motors in the models lifespan for an additional $5. It isn't all a
matter of money, sometimes the brushed is just simpler and works fine.
-Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: n925wb1@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model Pietenpol
Bill,
The IPS would likely be the ideal motor for the little Piet. I have
one of those kits, too, and was planning on either using that motor or a
small brushless motor in the GWS IPS gearbox. The GWS' stock brushed
motor would probably fly the plane just fine, but if you wanted more
punch from your power system, you could always upgrade to a 180-sized
brushless motor that will bolt right into the the GWS gearbox. These
are available from several manufacturers, but I have personally had
success with the Fegaio brand of motors. These will require a more
expensive speed controller than the GWS motor, but will give you an
increase in both power and duration.
Check out www.rcgroups.com for more information about all types of R/C
models. I'm sure that if you do a quick search you'll be able to find
some more detailed insight into the Dumas Pietenpol.
-Wayne Bressler
www.taildraggersinc.com
-----Original Message-----
From: eng@canadianrogers.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 2:04 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Model Pietenpol
Thanks for the replies Scott and DJ,
Since I have no practical knowledge regarding electric powered flight,
I am attempting a guess at the size of the motor required, for the Dumas
model with a wingspan of 36". Flying weight is supposed to be 6 - 7 oz.
I guess 300 or 350? What do you think, guys?
I found a GWS website that has some dimensioned drawings of their EPS
units. I'll have to dig out the plans tonight to see if the GWS unit
will fit in the space of the Faulhaber. I can always modify the
structure if it's close.
Thanks for the feedback.
Bill C
P.S. Barry, that photo is a publicity photo. Not my model - it's
still a bunch of sticks in a box. I'll post some pics when I complete
mine (if it turns out nice enough).
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DJ Vegh
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:31 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model Pietenpol
I power my Speed 400 size Piet with an Eflite Park450 outrunner
brushless motor and 20amp speed control. I use a 10x6 slowfly prop.
It has a 3 cell lithium polymer battery pack and I get about 20 minute
flight times on a charge. Power is way more than you need but nice to
power yourself out of a bad situtation.
Mine is 4 channel but I mixed ailerons so that I can flip both up and
act as spoilerons. It really comes down fast when landing that way.
I love it!
here's some pics
http://imagedv.com/aircamper/log/image-pages/06-12-02.htm
DJ Vegh
veghdesign.com
Mesa, AZ
602.743.5768
"Where there's a will there's a Vegh"
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----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Schreiber
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Model Pietenpol
Bill, That is something I can help with. Allot of recent changes
have come down the road and smaller electric is better than ever.
The Faulhabers are available but are more trouble than they are
worth. You can hit any good hobby shop or towerhobbies.com and get a GWS
IPS (indoor power system) in a 4:1 gear ratio which they refer to as the
A ratio I think rather than just telling you the ratio, and about a 9x7
or 9x8 GWS prop. Then you just need a GWS 5 amp ESC and about a 400mah
or so 2 cell Lipo pack. Should run you about $60 for the whole package.
The GWS orange prop looks terrible until you take a black/brown
marker and color it and it suddenly looks like a nice wood grain.
-Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Church
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 8:27 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model Pietenpol
With winter setting in, the appeal of working out in the garage
workshop becomes less and less as the temperature drops. So, while the
snow starts to fly outdoors, I have a R/C Pietenpol model kit to build
indoors. It's the one made by Dumas (picture attached). It's electric
powered. This is where my question comes in. I am familiar with glow
motors, and making substitutions with those powerplants is fairly
straightforward. But these electric motors are something new to me. The
plans call for a Faulhaber DC-117 motor with a 1524 gearbox. I can't
seem to find a source for such a beast. Do any of you guys out there
know where to get one of these? Or, failing that, do any of you know of
a good substitute motor that's more readily available?
Bill C
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Shad,
If you can, please post the dates of the differant fly-ins and locations
for those of us that are fairly new to this part of the world. I live
in Tennessee and as time permits I want to attend as many fly-ins as
possible with my Piet.
Gene
N502R
----- Original Message -----
From: shad bell
To: Pietenpol Discussion
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 6:06 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Piets
Hello All, Dad and I will more than likely be at the WACO fly in this
year at Wyncoop in Mt Vrenon. If I am able I will also be at any other
piet fly-ins in the area. The waco fly in is pretty good, MERFI is
also pretty good. I like to see all the homebuilts and old "rag bags".
As far as having to be an all piet fly-in I say we just call it a
taildragger fly-in. If we have it at a "shorter" grass strip airport,
say 2500- 3000ft runway (which some new hotshot jet jockys call short),
we will attract simmilar airplanes. Or maybe we call it a homebuilt fly
in, or grass roots fly in. I have a few guys here at Chapman Field who
want to get a fly in calender togeather and fly to some fly ins as a
group this summer. One has a Avid, one a Cub, And another few with an
L-3, a colt, and a Stinson 108. If we had it on grass it would probably
discourage the "Fast Glass" factory built "homebuilts". Although
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