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1. 05:01 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 01/04/07 (Bill Weir)
2. 05:54 AM - painting metal fittings (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
3. 05:57 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 01/04/07 (Robert Gow)
4. 06:28 AM - Re: thinking ahead when flying with skis (Robert Gow)
5. 09:15 AM - eyebrow patterns (Jim Cooper)
6. 09:15 AM - eyebrow patterns (Jim Cooper)
7. 09:18 AM - Re: rib construction (Ben Ramler)
8. 09:40 AM - Fw: Eyebrows (Isablcorky@aol.com)
9. 09:58 AM - Re: Eyebrows (Isablcorky@aol.com)
10. 11:04 AM - Re: Eyebrows (Gene & Tammy)
11. 11:21 AM - Re: Eyebrows (Phillips, Jack)
12. 11:22 AM - Re: Eyebrows (Isablcorky@aol.com)
13. 11:44 AM - Re: Eyebrows (Gene & Tammy)
14. 11:47 AM - Re: Eyebrows (Gene & Tammy)
15. 12:06 PM - eyebrows and tough love (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
16. 12:46 PM - An apology (Isablcorky@aol.com)
17. 12:53 PM - Re: eyebrows and tough love (Gene & Tammy)
18. 12:58 PM - Re: An apology (Gene & Tammy)
19. 12:58 PM - here pretty horsey (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
20. 01:03 PM - Re: An apology (Phillips, Jack)
21. 01:10 PM - Re: An apology (Isablcorky@aol.com)
22. 01:22 PM - Re: here pretty horsey (Jack T. Textor)
23. 01:27 PM - what about OSU ? (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
24. 01:30 PM - Re: here pretty horsey (walt evans)
25. 02:59 PM - Re: what about OSU ? (Rcaprd@aol.com)
26. 05:00 PM - Re: what about OSU ? (Ben Charvet)
27. 06:02 PM - Re: eyebrow patterns (Gene & Tammy)
28. 08:37 PM - Re: eyebrow patterns (KMHeide)
29. 08:49 PM - Re: eyebrow patterns (KMHeide)
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Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 01/04/07 |
To Robert Gow,
To importing amateur built a/c into Canada.
If the plane has 100 hours then it comes in without difficulty. I think the
process has been given to MDRA at 1-519-457-2909. To be sure give RAA CANADA
a call it 1-905-638-1359 Tues, Wed, or Thurs and they will lead you to the
process. If you care to contact me I can lead you to someone who has
recently imported a Kitfox.
Bill Weir
> Time: 07:43:19 AM PST US
> From: "Robert Gow" <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Importing an unfinished homebuilt into Canada.
>
> I`m interested in Cart`s Pietenpol but there are some issues importing it
> to
> Canada. My first contact with the inspectors here was not as good as I
> had
> hoped. The tell me I'll need a pre-cover inspection if I want to import
> it
> and finish the project in Canada. That means removing the fabric. I do
> not want to rip the fabric off this airplane to get it inspected.
>
> Or, as a finished aircraft, the aircraft must have a 100 hours on it
> before
> it can be imported.
>
> Does anyone have an idea how to avoid this?
>
> Perhaps I could complete it or have it completed as a US aircraft and fly
> it
> under US registry for the first 100 hours. But can you register a US
> aircraft to a non-citizen/ non-resident?
>
> Or perhaps I can get the pre-cover inspection waived if there is evidence
> of
> an FAA pre-cover inspection. Is there a precedent for this?
>
> Or I can look into ultra-light classification but I do not believe I could
> carry a passenger which is not acceptable to me.
>
> Bob
>
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Subject: | painting metal fittings |
Dan-- the IA/ A&P guys who helped me paint my airplane suggested
cleaning with MEK, spray can zinc chromate followed by an enamel
that matches your fabric color. We protected the protruding metal
fittings during fabric treatment/paint with masking tape then painted
them
after all the fabric work was complete. In my case we used Randolph
dopes for the fabric and matching Randolph enamels for the metal parts.
Etching was done on all the aluminum sheet parts, cowl, cockpit area
covers, etc. prior to zinc chromate and painting.
Mike C.
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Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 01/04/07 |
Thanks. But of course this on is mostly done and mostly covered but has
never flown. So the best way is to find away around cutting the fabric off
for a pre-cover inspection. I've asked for any FAA or EAA inspection forms.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Weir
Sent: January 5, 2007 8:01 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 01/04/07
To Robert Gow,
To importing amateur built a/c into Canada.
If the plane has 100 hours then it comes in without difficulty. I think the
process has been given to MDRA at 1-519-457-2909. To be sure give RAA CANADA
a call it 1-905-638-1359 Tues, Wed, or Thurs and they will lead you to the
process. If you care to contact me I can lead you to someone who has
recently imported a Kitfox.
Bill Weir
> Time: 07:43:19 AM PST US
> From: "Robert Gow" <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Importing an unfinished homebuilt into Canada.
>
> I`m interested in Cart`s Pietenpol but there are some issues importing it
> to
> Canada. My first contact with the inspectors here was not as good as I
> had
> hoped. The tell me I'll need a pre-cover inspection if I want to import
> it
> and finish the project in Canada. That means removing the fabric. I do
> not want to rip the fabric off this airplane to get it inspected.
>
> Or, as a finished aircraft, the aircraft must have a 100 hours on it
> before
> it can be imported.
>
> Does anyone have an idea how to avoid this?
>
> Perhaps I could complete it or have it completed as a US aircraft and fly
> it
> under US registry for the first 100 hours. But can you register a US
> aircraft to a non-citizen/ non-resident?
>
> Or perhaps I can get the pre-cover inspection waived if there is evidence
> of
> an FAA pre-cover inspection. Is there a precedent for this?
>
> Or I can look into ultra-light classification but I do not believe I could
> carry a passenger which is not acceptable to me.
>
> Bob
>
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Subject: | thinking ahead when flying with skis |
Ran a Chief on skis for years. They are not that hard to turn on skis.
I've even landed on wet grass in the spring when the sun burned off the
light snow covering. As for sticking to the snow; if you land in the bush
just rip off a couple of pine branches and stick them under the skis. Since
the lakes were great for doing touch and goes and chasing sleds you would
need to carry a couple of pieces of firewood with you to prop the airplane
up on so it didn't stick to the snow if it was parked for a while (like when
you taxied up to a winter fair in Barrie or Penatang)
One other point to consider. If it's one of those dead cold (-40) sunny
days and you shut down in the middle on no place miles from another human
being, make sure you know how to get it started in that kind of temperature.
It can be disconcerting to watch the sun setting while you are desperately
propping an old plane in the middle of a frozen lake. It would be a damn
cold night.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of walt evans
Sent: January 4, 2007 6:32 PM
To: piet list
Subject: Pietenpol-List: thinking ahead when flying with skiis
Learned one amazing thing when flying with skiis on a Kolb U/L. Got
talking with the old timers at the airport, and found out some basic things
about flying on skiis, that I never would have thought of.
You know how you pick up the tail and spin it around to go out for another
flight?
If you do that to a plane on skiis, you'll twist the landing gear off,
destroy it.
Think of it,,,all the leverage of you on the tail, twisting, and the skiis
don't move.
A pilot flying on skiis must taxi into an area and figure in advance what
big looping circle he can make to get out.
Just remember "you can drive it on the skiis, you can't turn the plane on
the skiis"
Also when you get in the plane that has been sitting on the snow for
awhile, will freeze to the ground. When you are ready to go, you work the
rudder, to break the skiis lose. While wiggling the tail, soon you'll feel
one ski break, then the other. Now keep moving.
And you must wax them too.
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
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Subject: | eyebrow patterns |
I have the eyebrow patterns you all are talking about. I got them
through Corky. It might take a while to find them. We're leaving
tomorrow for California and won't be back until Jan.20. It might take a
while to reach Tom Schildt, my partner, by email. His home 'phone is
337-989-8148, and he may be able to find them if you need them before I
get back. Jim Cooper 337-937-6116
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Subject: | eyebrow patterns |
I have the eyebrow patterns you all are talking about. I got them
through Corky. It might take a while to find them. We're leaving
tomorrow for California and won't be back until Jan.20. It might take a
while to reach Tom Schildt, my partner, by email. His home 'phone is
337-989-8148, and he may be able to find them if you need them before I
get back. Jim Cooper 337-937-6116
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Subject: | Re: rib construction |
Hi Dale Sorry for not getting back to you sooner! I will send a photo to you tonight!
Also, my numbers are below.
Take Care,
Ben Ramler
320-656-5377
----- Original Message ----
From: Dale Johnson <ddjohn@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2007 6:45:57 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: rib construction
Hi Ben
I am trying to figure out what you are doing wrong.No notching required.
Send pictures or send phone # .
Or send me your address I have some spare rib sections.
Dale Mpls
> [Original Message]
> From: Ben Ramler <ben_ramler2002@yahoo.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 12/31/2006 2:06:36 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: rib construction
>
<ben_ramler2002@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> Hopefully everyone had great christmas! My question is on the rib
costruction. I've got my first rib almost done however my question is on
the gusset plate that sits on the sides of the rib in front. does 2 1/8" x
3/4: sound right? then what about this 1/2x1/2" block that the plans talk
about does that somehow get nothced out and gets glued in? If anyone wants
see pictures I can post some.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ben Ramler
> St. Cloud, MN
>
> __________________________________________________
>
>
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Luther,
A reply to your last. I'm not offended by the changes. Guess I did use
improper grammer skills and spellings but whoever signs these messages are
responsible for the contents. Remember, these damn things circle the globe. However;
I will in the future send all my Piet messages BEFORE my " old charter"
delights.
I would be very happy to meet you but as of now I don't have an airplane.
But I will as soon as I get the nerve to haul a trailer behind my 89 Olds to
Hawley, Minn. and bring back my new (old) 42 AeroncaTAC Defender/L-3. to warm,
delightful, beautiful and politically correct Louisiana.
Corky the ole Pieter and Knocker
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Corky,
I find it interesting that so many Piet builders and owners have become
such wonderful mentors to those of us less skillful and knowledgeable,
while you appear to spend your time trying to put down those of us that
are trying to learn. True, I'm not highly skilled or knowledgeable but
that doesn't make me stupid or fit to only make footstools or magazine
holders. You may be a good (?) airplane builder but you really need to
spend more time working on your people skills. The message you were
trying to deliver really lost something in the tellling.
The mentors I talk with tell me that they really get a lot of joy out of
helping and teaching others. Probably even more that you get out of
speading putdowns and discouragement. You might want to try mentoring,
you just might like it.
Haven't tried to accuse, embass or otherwise. But I hope I have
encouraged you to try.
Gene, an new Pieter
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:51 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Eyebrows
Pieters, I promised sometimes back that I would never add or subtract
to this list but after reading those messages concerning "eyebrows" I
just couldn't restrain myself.
I cannot believe that a man would endeavor to build a Piet or any
other airplane who did not posess the abilities to fabricate such simple
parts as the eyebrows. He should maybe try making footstools or magazine
holders. That is such a simple task. Believe me when I say, if I can do
it anyone can. Don't expect a finish product on the first try but boy
you will really learn each time you try. Aluminum and rivets are really
cheap, your pride and dignity are expensive.
Haven't tried to accuse, embass or otherwise. But I hope I have
encouraged you to try
Corky, an old Pieter
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Gene,
I've never met Corky in person, but we've certainly swapped a lot of
emails. I don't think his comments were meant to inflame. In fact, as
one of those who made just about every last piece of my Pietenpol, I
tend to agree with him. He was trying to encourage you to try making
your own eyebrows (as he did, and I did, and Gene Hubbard, and Mike Cuy
and Chuck Gantzer and many others have done).
I'll be glad to send you photos (offline) of my eyebrow manufacturing
process. Chuck Gantzer gave good advice - just trace a set of Cub
eyebrows (or your old ones) to get a flat pattern. I made mine from
softer aluminum than 2024 - I think I used 5052 or something like that.
I rolled the leading edge around a piece of stainless steel welding rod.
I can show you in the photos.
As one who has gotten many a hearty laugh from the old curmudgeon from
Louisiana, I will stand up and say, "Don't worry about ol' Corky. He's
one of the Good'uns".
Jack Phillips
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene &
Tammy
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Eyebrows
Corky,
I find it interesting that so many Piet builders and owners have become
such wonderful mentors to those of us less skillful and knowledgeable,
while you appear to spend your time trying to put down those of us that
are trying to learn. True, I'm not highly skilled or knowledgeable but
that doesn't make me stupid or fit to only make footstools or magazine
holders. You may be a good (?) airplane builder but you really need to
spend more time working on your people skills. The message you were
trying to deliver really lost something in the tellling.
The mentors I talk with tell me that they really get a lot of joy out of
helping and teaching others. Probably even more that you get out of
speading putdowns and discouragement. You might want to try mentoring,
you just might like it.
Haven't tried to accuse, embass or otherwise. But I hope I have
encouraged you to try.
Gene, an new Pieter
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:51 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Eyebrows
Pieters, I promised sometimes back that I would never add or
subtract to this list but after reading those messages concerning
"eyebrows" I just couldn't restrain myself.
I cannot believe that a man would endeavor to build a Piet or
any other airplane who did not posess the abilities to fabricate such
simple parts as the eyebrows. He should maybe try making footstools or
magazine holders. That is such a simple task. Believe me when I say, if
I can do it anyone can. Don't expect a finish product on the first try
but boy you will really learn each time you try. Aluminum and rivets are
really cheap, your pride and dignity are expensive.
Haven't tried to accuse, embass or otherwise. But I hope I have
encouraged you to try
Corky, an old Pieter
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Gene, this ole shell of mine is pretty thick so I'll accept your comments
toward the betterment of Piet building. Believe me young man, it takes all types
to make things turn and some times we may have to urge progress in different
ways. I'm sure you're well meant and will be a good (?) builder. So get off
the keyboard, get the welding torch, saw, sandpaper, rivet gun and let things
happen. When you have completed your task please call me as I would love to
see and congratulate you on a finished airplane
Corky (Damned if you do, damned if you don't
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Thanks Jack,
What set my teeth on edge was that I had asked for advice on both where
to "buy" and also how to "make" them. My thinking was that if someone
on the list was making and selling them I may want to buy but then on
the other hand if I could get instructions I might try my hand at making
them. I noticed that when someone on the list was asking another to
build a brass radiator for them, no one called him an idot. The message
Corky was trying to send is correct, however, the way he presented it
was really poor. His kind of comments are more likely to discourage
someone from building, rather than encourage.
As you know, I didn't build my Piet and I have a lot of catching up to
do to be on the level of thoes that did build theirs and I will need a
lot of mentoring.
Thank you for your imput and I'm looking forward to any assistance you
can provide.
Gene
PS Corky's off my bad list, he called me a "Young Man" (and who said he
didn't have any people skills?)
----- Original Message -----
From: Phillips, Jack
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 1:15 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Eyebrows
Gene,
I've never met Corky in person, but we've certainly swapped a lot of
emails. I don't think his comments were meant to inflame. In fact, as
one of those who made just about every last piece of my Pietenpol, I
tend to agree with him. He was trying to encourage you to try making
your own eyebrows (as he did, and I did, and Gene Hubbard, and Mike Cuy
and Chuck Gantzer and many others have done)..
I'll be glad to send you photos (offline) of my eyebrow manufacturing
process. Chuck Gantzer gave good advice - just trace a set of Cub
eyebrows (or your old ones) to get a flat pattern. I made mine from
softer aluminum than 2024 - I think I used 5052 or something like that.
I rolled the leading edge around a piece of stainless steel welding rod.
I can show you in the photos.
As one who has gotten many a hearty laugh from the old curmudgeon from
Louisiana, I will stand up and say, "Don't worry about ol' Corky. He's
one of the Good'uns".
Jack Phillips
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene &
Tammy
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 2:04 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics..com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Eyebrows
Corky,
I find it interesting that so many Piet builders and owners have
become such wonderful mentors to those of us less skillful and
knowledgeable, while you appear to spend your time trying to put down
those of us that are trying to learn. True, I'm not highly skilled or
knowledgeable but that doesn't make me stupid or fit to only make
footstools or magazine holders. You may be a good (?) airplane builder
but you really need to spend more time working on your people skills.
The message you were trying to deliver really lost something in the
tellling.
The mentors I talk with tell me that they really get a lot of joy out
of helping and teaching others. Probably even more that you get out of
speading putdowns and discouragement. You might want to try mentoring,
you just might like it.
Haven't tried to accuse, embass or otherwise. But I hope I have
encouraged you to try.
Gene, an new Pieter
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:51 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Eyebrows
Pieters, I promised sometimes back that I would never add or
subtract to this list but after reading those messages concerning
"eyebrows" I just couldn't restrain myself.
I cannot believe that a man would endeavor to build a Piet or any
other airplane who did not posess the abilities to fabricate such simple
parts as the eyebrows. He should maybe try making footstools or magazine
holders. That is such a simple task. Believe me when I say, if I can do
it anyone can. Don't expect a finish product on the first try but boy
you will really learn each time you try. Aluminum and rivets are really
cheap, your pride and dignity are expensive.
Haven't tried to accuse, embass or otherwise. But I hope I have
encouraged you to try
Corky, an old Pieter
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Aw Corky, give me a hug. Anyone that calls me "young man" can't be all
bad (just blind).
Gene
N502R
Tennessee
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Eyebrows
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Gene, this ole shell of mine is pretty thick so I'll accept your
comments toward the betterment of Piet building. Believe me young man,
it takes all types to make things turn and some times we may have to
urge progress in different ways. I'm sure you're well meant and will be
a good (?) builder. So get off the keyboard, get the welding torch, saw,
sandpaper, rivet gun and let things happen. When you have completed your
task please call me as I would love to see and congratulate you on a
finished airplane
Corky (Damned if you do, damned if you don't
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Subject: | eyebrows and tough love |
I'd have to agree w/ Jack Phillips 100% on ole Corky and his comments.
They are meant to inspire and kick you in the butt rather than
discourage.
Back in his day and in most of mine (being brought up by a WWII Vet Dad)
there was encouragement by saying 'git your butt out there and learn
this
stuff then try it then try it again til you git it right and no bitchin'
or you can go cry to yer Mommy. I'm not endorsing that kind of tough
love (oh who the
heck am I kidding--- I am) but that is Corky's way as he was taught and
it helped me along the way too I'd say.
Mike C.
PS- watch a few old episodes of Gomer Pyle and note that many WWII guys
and vets from that era are similar to Sergeant Carter on that series.
That was
the way they taught. No kisses and hugs and telling you that they love
you---just get out there, learn it at do it. Had a lady flight
instructor early on who
was like that. Mean as a snake but she got me to keep the ball in the
center during steep turns and maintain altitude. She'd say if you
don't hit your prop
wake you didn't do it good enough. I can still hit my prop wake most
times today still.
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It was not my intent to hurt the feelings of any Piet builder. If I did
please accept my humble apology.
On the otherhand I've never before had so many people say nice things about
me. So thanks Gene for stimulating this discussion and I could probably keep
it going for my person benefit by saying from an L S U man to a Tennessee man
what a shitty football team you support.
Corky
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Subject: | Re: eyebrows and tough love |
Mike,
Thank you for your input. I too was raised with the "kick in the butt
to inspire" method (I'm 62) if it was needed. I was also raised with
the belief that you don't tell a person what he can't do, you tell him
he can do anything he wants to, if he wants to do it bad enough. None
of this putdown tellling him he's only good enough to do such & such. I
grew up in a very poor small mountain town where the High School
teachers were telling you what you couldn't do in life unless you got
all A's in their class, rather than telling you what you can do in
life. If it hadn't been for my dad telling me I could do anything I
wanted, I'd still be back there like all the rest of my class mates,
doing nothing with their lives. They learned it from their teachers and
no one told them otherwise. For me, because of my dad's advise and
mentoring, I was able to retire at 41, take my family on a sailing
adventure on the Pacific for 12 years and then spend the last 5 years as
a Marine Captain in the Arctic.
In writing Corky, my mission was to let him know that this is one person
that doesn't like to be talked down to and I suspect I'm not alone. I
don't expect to be coddled and burped, just pointed in the right
direction with as many traveling instructions as possible (that's what a
mentor does).
I'm sure Corky is a nice guy but I can tell you that the other Piet
builders/flyers that responded to my questions motivated me many times
more than Corky has.
Boy, you can sure tell it's a rainy day here in Tennessee. I have way
too much time on my hands. Hell with it, I'm going to the hanger.
Gene
N502R
Tennessee
----- Original Message -----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 1:56 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: eyebrows and tough love
I'd have to agree w/ Jack Phillips 100% on ole Corky and his comments.
They are meant to inspire and kick you in the butt rather than
discourage.
Back in his day and in most of mine (being brought up by a WWII Vet
Dad) there was encouragement by saying 'git your butt out there and
learn this
stuff then try it then try it again til you git it right and no
bitchin' or you can go cry to yer Mommy. I'm not endorsing that kind
of tough love (oh who the
heck am I kidding--- I am) but that is Corky's way as he was taught
and it helped me along the way too I'd say.
Mike C.
PS- watch a few old episodes of Gomer Pyle and note that many WWII
guys and vets from that era are similar to Sergeant Carter on that
series. That was
the way they taught. No kisses and hugs and telling you that they
love you---just get out there, learn it at do it. Had a lady flight
instructor early on who
was like that. Mean as a snake but she got me to keep the ball in
the center during steep turns and maintain altitude. She'd say if you
don't hit your prop
wake you didn't do it good enough. I can still hit my prop wake most
times today still.
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Corky,
I'm trying to get to the hanger so leave me alone. There's always next
year for the Vols.
Gene
PS how much did it cost you for all the nice words that was said about
you? Build me some eyebrows and I might even say something nice.
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 2:46 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: An apology
It was not my intent to hurt the feelings of any Piet builder. If I
did please accept my humble apology.
On the otherhand I've never before had so many people say nice things
about me. So thanks Gene for stimulating this discussion and I could
probably keep it going for my person benefit by saying from an L S U
man to a Tennessee man what a shitty football team you support.
Corky
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Subject: | here pretty horsey |
I was just trying to get to the end of this work week sitting here
thinking "why wouldn't sulky wheels and hubs work on a Piet ?"
http://www.parkerwheelsandhubs.com/
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Watch it Corky - I graduated from UT. I'll have to take back all the
nice things I said.
Jack Phillips
How 'bout them Vols?
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Isablcorky@aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:46 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: An apology
It was not my intent to hurt the feelings of any Piet builder. If I did
please accept my humble apology.
On the otherhand I've never before had so many people say nice things
about me. So thanks Gene for stimulating this discussion and I could
probably keep it going for my person benefit by saying from an L S U
man to a Tennessee man what a shitty football team you support.
Corky
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How bout those Tigers.
Woe to Bama, they'll be sorry about getting Sabin. Was real happy to see him
go to Miami.
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Subject: | here pretty horsey |
Now you tell me Mike...what a great idea.... Although maybe a little
narrow....
Jack Textor
www.textors.com
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Subject: | what about OSU ? |
Did everyone forget that I'm from Ohio ? Kidding...I could care
less about college football. (but OSU is good...about the only team
Ohio has that is any good)
Mike C.
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Subject: | Re: here pretty horsey |
Think you're onto something , Mike!
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:57 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: here pretty horsey
I was just trying to get to the end of this work week sitting here
thinking "why wouldn't sulky wheels and hubs work on a Piet ?"
http://www.parkerwheelsandhubs.com/
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Subject: | Re: what about OSU ? |
In a message dated 1/5/2007 3:29:17 PM Central Standard Time,
michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov writes:
Did everyone forget that I'm from Ohio ? Kidding...I could care less
about college football. (but OSU is good...about the only team Ohio has that
is any good)
Mike C.
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Well, Mike, we'll see come Monday evening...they haven't won it yet, but the
odds are in their favor.
Wait a minute...How 'bout them 'eers !!! WVU Mountaineers. They already won
their bowl game !!
Chuck G.
aka the Smokin' Mountaineer
raised by a butt kickin' Dad, that would never settle for anything less than
my best effort.
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Subject: | Re: what about OSU ? |
How bout them Gators?
Ben Charvet, UF '77, 04
Mims, Fl
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Subject: | Re: eyebrow patterns |
Jim, Thank you for your offer. Mike C. is sending me a pattern so
probably won't need you to search for yours.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Cooper
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com ; Pietenpol-List Digest Server
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 11:14 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: eyebrow patterns
I have the eyebrow patterns you all are talking about. I got them
through Corky. It might take a while to find them. We're leaving
tomorrow for California and won't be back until Jan.20. It might take a
while to reach Tom Schildt, my partner, by email. His home 'phone is
337-989-8148, and he may be able to find them if you need them before I
get back. Jim Cooper 337-937-6116
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Subject: | Re: eyebrow patterns |
PLease post the patterns or scan them so we's Yankees can have a look see...
KM Heide
Fargo, ND
Jim Cooper <blugoos1@hughes.net> wrote:
I have the eyebrow patterns you all are talking about. I got them through
Corky. It might take a while to find them. We're leaving tomorrow for California
and won't be back until Jan.20. It might take a while to reach Tom Schildt,
my partner, by email. His home 'phone is 337-989-8148, and he may be able
to find them if you need them before I get back. Jim Cooper 337-937-6116
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Subject: | Re: eyebrow patterns |
Hey Mike......Where is my pattern? Not fair!.....everyone should have a copy!
Ken H
Fargo, ND
Gene & Tammy <zharvey@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Jim, Thank you for your offer. Mike C. is sending me a pattern so probably
won't need you to search for yours.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Cooper
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com ; Pietenpol-List Digest Server
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 11:14 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: eyebrow patterns
I have the eyebrow patterns you all are talking about. I got them through Corky.
It might take a while to find them. We're leaving tomorrow for California
and won't be back until Jan.20. It might take a while to reach Tom Schildt, my
partner, by email. His home 'phone is 337-989-8148, and he may be able to find
them if you need them before I get back. Jim Cooper 337-937-6116
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