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1. 01:04 AM - Get Started! Do Something! (Clif Dawson)
2. 04:45 AM - Kerosene Heater (Larry Rice)
3. 05:49 AM - Re: Get Started! Do Something! (walt evans)
4. 06:33 AM - Re: CAD versus cardboard (Robert Gow)
5. 06:43 AM - Re: Get Started! Do Something![Scanned] (Rob Hart)
6. 06:54 AM - Re: thinking ahead when flying with skis (Ralph)
7. 07:27 AM - Re: Securing plane and J3 eyebrows (HVandervoo@aol.com)
8. 07:38 AM - Re: CAD versus cardboard (TJ)
9. 07:57 AM - builders ages (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
10. 08:41 AM - Re: builders ages (dwilson)
11. 08:53 AM - Re: CAD versus cardboard (Catdesigns)
12. 09:12 AM - Re: builders ages (Jack T. Textor)
13. 09:48 AM - List: Builder's Ages (Alan Lyscars)
14. 09:49 AM - Re: builders ages (walt evans)
15. 02:30 PM - average age (glich7@juno.com)
16. 02:56 PM - Re: average age (walt evans)
17. 03:19 PM - age (TGSTONE236@aol.com)
18. 03:41 PM - Re: average age (Jeff Boatright)
19. 03:44 PM - Re: age (Pietsrneat@aol.com)
20. 04:16 PM - Re: builders ages (Jack T. Textor)
21. 04:35 PM - Re: builders ages (Gene & Tammy)
22. 05:47 PM - Another dumb question (Gene & Tammy)
23. 06:08 PM - Duane Woolsey? (Jeff Boatright)
24. 06:43 PM - Re: Duane Woolsey? (Pietsrneat@aol.com)
25. 07:13 PM - Re: builders ages (walt evans)
26. 07:21 PM - Re: List: Builder's Ages (Roman Bukolt)
27. 07:32 PM - Re: builders ages (Don Emch)
28. 07:38 PM - Re: Another dumb question (Don Emch)
29. 08:03 PM - Re: Duane Woolsey? (Catdesigns)
30. 08:49 PM - prop (Dick Navratil)
31. 08:52 PM - Re: builders ages (Rcaprd@aol.com)
32. 09:01 PM - Re: prop (Rcaprd@aol.com)
33. 10:09 PM - Re: Get Started! Do Something! (Clif Dawson)
34. 10:46 PM - Re: -CAD (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Get Started! Do Something! |
I've been building for seven years. I'll be 64 in Feb. I
estimate that my outlay has been the equivalent of a
dinner out for two every month. That includes the
three Corvair engines as core parts and a few new
parts for them. The fuselage and tail are complete
with controls. The first thing I did was make the tail
surfaces. Then I made the ribs. This year I should
get most of the wing completed. You do what you
can with the time, space and financial resources life
affords you.
Many years ago there was a series of 3 articles by a
young Piet builder, mostly centered around his trials
and tribulations with dope and fabric. He and his wife
built the thing in a small, second story apartment. The
fuselage went from the left front corner of the living
room across to the fridge in the kitchen. There is a pic
of them hoisting the finished fuselage out the window
and down to the ground. Granted, many of us don't, or
didn't, have such enthusiastic significant others but I'm
sure you can see the moral to this story. Do something!
Drill a hole even.
An idea I've seen is a heavy table 4' square to which are
mounted all the power tools and a vise or two. This table
sits on four heavy castors with brakes on them. You can
move and rotate this sucker all around the shop to access
each tool as it's needed, even outside if you need the space.
If you're worried that it will move while you're running
something through the band or table saw, I'll tell you that
my 28" by 96" rolling radial arm saw table doesn't budge
an inch! It's on three inch, locking castors.
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You may already know this, but when you get to fabric, no kerosene heat,
and if you have to cover it for dust no plastic. An old friend of mine
did that and the paint wouldn't stick. Hmmmm - any effect on glue or
varnish? I ended up with a small catalytic heater on a propane bottle in
my shop.
Larry the micro mong guy
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| Subject: | Re: Get Started! Do Something! |
Cliff,
That person was Jim Malley of this group. I still have the Kitplanes
issue that featured his Pietenpol on the front cover.
It was because of that, that I decided to build a Piet.
For all who needs/wants a little inspiration, want to again share this
picture, taken from the front seat, comming in over Stickle's Pond
headed toward runway 24 on a beautiful summer morning At Newton (Jump)
airport.
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: Clif Dawson
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 4:03 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Get Started! Do Something!
I've been building for seven years. I'll be 64 in Feb. I
estimate that my outlay has been the equivalent of a
dinner out for two every month. That includes the
three Corvair engines as core parts and a few new
parts for them. The fuselage and tail are complete
with controls. The first thing I did was make the tail
surfaces. Then I made the ribs. This year I should
get most of the wing completed. You do what you
can with the time, space and financial resources life
affords you.
Many years ago there was a series of 3 articles by a
young Piet builder, mostly centered around his trials
and tribulations with dope and fabric. He and his wife
built the thing in a small, second story apartment. The
fuselage went from the left front corner of the living
room across to the fridge in the kitchen. There is a pic
of them hoisting the finished fuselage out the window
and down to the ground. Granted, many of us don't, or
didn't, have such enthusiastic significant others but I'm
sure you can see the moral to this story. Do something!
Drill a hole even.
An idea I've seen is a heavy table 4' square to which are
mounted all the power tools and a vise or two. This table
sits on four heavy castors with brakes on them. You can
move and rotate this sucker all around the shop to access
each tool as it's needed, even outside if you need the space.
If you're worried that it will move while you're running
something through the band or table saw, I'll tell you that
my 28" by 96" rolling radial arm saw table doesn't budge
an inch! It's on three inch, locking castors.
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| Subject: | CAD versus cardboard |
I hear you. If you are building one plane it's no too productive. But in
the past I've found a lot of dimensional errors and fixed them by converting
from paper to CAD because you draw to scale. You can also resolve many
ambiguities as well because you have a fully detailed "model". But it would
only be worth doing if the plans were shared with new builders.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
HelsperSew@aol.com
Sent: January 6, 2007 8:53 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: CAD versus cardboard
John,
You guys talking about these CAD drawings are making my eyes glaze over.
Stop with the nonsence and just start making some ribs. At this rate you
will never get going! You need to start with what you CAN do. Nobody needs
any "place to build" to make a rib jig and start producing ribs. A few
sticks of spruce and a hand saw and glue are all you need. There has been a
lot of talk about tough love and kicks-in-the-butt's on this site as of
late. Here's some more---GET STARTED!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Get Started! Do Something![Scanned] |
Hi Walt
I also have that issue of Kitplanes. It was also the article that
inspired me to follow the Piet dream. Thanks for the pic, and for the
reminder of the start of the journey.
To esteemed listers,
For those still figuring out when to start cutting or drilling; my
advice is to take your time. Measure twice and cut once is a well known
adage. Knowing when to start measuring, given the myriad demands on
most homebuilders, is perhaps less when understood. Thinking, planning
and contemplating is as much doing something as cutting spruce. Pick
your own time, not someone else's.
Regards
Rob
VH-PTN; in preparation.
Do not archive.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt
evans
Sent: Sunday, 7 January 2007 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Get Started! Do Something![Scanned]
Cliff,
That person was Jim Malley of this group. I still have the Kitplanes
issue that featured his Pietenpol on the front cover.
It was because of that, that I decided to build a Piet.
For all who needs/wants a little inspiration, want to again share this
picture, taken from the front seat, comming in over Stickle's Pond
headed toward runway 24 on a beautiful summer morning At Newton (Jump)
airport.
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: Clif Dawson <mailto:CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 4:03 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Get Started! Do Something!
I've been building for seven years. I'll be 64 in Feb. I
estimate that my outlay has been the equivalent of a
dinner out for two every month. That includes the
three Corvair engines as core parts and a few new
parts for them. The fuselage and tail are complete
with controls. The first thing I did was make the tail
surfaces. Then I made the ribs. This year I should
get most of the wing completed. You do what you
can with the time, space and financial resources life
affords you.
Many years ago there was a series of 3 articles by a
young Piet builder, mostly centered around his trials
and tribulations with dope and fabric. He and his wife
built the thing in a small, second story apartment. The
fuselage went from the left front corner of the living
room across to the fridge in the kitchen. There is a pic
of them hoisting the finished fuselage out the window
and down to the ground. Granted, many of us don't, or
didn't, have such enthusiastic significant others but I'm
sure you can see the moral to this story. Do something!
Drill a hole even.
An idea I've seen is a heavy table 4' square to which are
mounted all the power tools and a vise or two. This table
sits on four heavy castors with brakes on them. You can
move and rotate this sucker all around the shop to access
each tool as it's needed, even outside if you need the space.
If you're worried that it will move while you're running
something through the band or table saw, I'll tell you that
my 28" by 96" rolling radial arm saw table doesn't budge
an inch! It's on three inch, locking castors.
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| Subject: | Re: thinking ahead when flying with skis |
I am also flying a Chief on skis in the snowy weather. I have a pair of
wood Call-Air skis. You set the wheel into a metal tube frame on top of the
ski and clamp it down.. It takes about ten minutes to change with the help
of the wife. I hope to incorporate something similar for the Piet.
(thirteen years down, about ready to cover the wings). If you land in snow
in a field, always circle around and park in you own tracks. It really
helps to not have to break trail when first starting to move. I always grab
the ski tip and lift up before starting up the engine. That breaks loose
any freeze down that might occur.
Carol and Ralph
Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: Securing plane and J3 eyebrows |
Rick,
Program I use is Visio 2000, it is a simple draft program.
By no means as good and versatile as AutoCAD but cheap and simple to use.
Hans
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| Subject: | Re: CAD versus cardboard |
Hi Guys
I can tell you from a newbies point of view that I wish someone would redraw everything
in CAD. I know when my plans first came I looked them over every which
way and couldnt make much outta them. After I met a few guys like Jim Markle
and Larry Williams and looked over what they have, then I started to understand
them better. I lucked out and bumped into a guy named Frank Hiles that lives
45 minutes from me that has built 4 Piets and is on his 5th one now and hes
showing how to build now. Razorbacks Rule!!! (Well maybe not this year
but somtimes, maybe once in a while, I think I remember when they did, OK maybe
not, but then whos cares anyway, thats why I like flying and not football)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86044#86044
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Mike C. 47 and still keeping to my goal of keeping my waistline
measurement under my age:)
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| Subject: | Re: builders ages |
Dan Wilson, age 50. Would like to finish my Piet while I can still pass the vision
test. Just got my first pair of glasses!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86063#86063
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| Subject: | Re: CAD versus cardboard |
Early on I drew up all the fittings in CAD and would advise against doing
this. The fittings I have tried to make based on the CAD drawings are not
always correct. Accurate to the plans yes but not correct for the job they
are intended to do. Sometimes the holes are a bit off and sometimes the
size of the fitting is a bit small. Plus you will want to lengthen the
fittings in a few places to access the bolt heads. For instance, take a
look at the front tailwheel mounting fitting, the one with the 3 fingers on
it. Notice how the bolt holes for mounting it to the fuselage interfere
with each other? If you were to blindly follow the plans you would be
making these fittings again, hopefully before you drilled your holes in the
lower longeron. Sorry, don't ask for the files because I think releasing
them into the world would give a false sense of accuracy that I don't want
to promote.
One thing you will find as you build is the plans turn out to be better then
you thought. They may look poor at first glance but after a while you start
to get in the groove and they turn out to be just fine. You soon realize
that you worry about some dimensions but others are whatever length is
required to fit YOUR particular assembly. The best approach is to get the
idea from the plans then fine tune the location and dimensions to make the
part fit your assembly correctly and serve the intended purpose. The
important thing is to make a strong well built plane. Don't waste your time
trying to build to the exact 1/64th because that's what the plans said it
had to be.
By the way I'm now 39. Was 33 when I started. Probably be 45 when done :-(
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Glass" <redsglass@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 4:47 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: CAD versus cardboard
> <redsglass@hotmail.com>
>
> Hi
>
> I have been on the list for about a year gathering info but not yet
> started building.
>
> It would be intersting to know the average age of the people on the list.
> I would guess around mid 50's. Assuming that I would guess only a
> portion are up on Cad. I'm 59
>
> CAD would be great for documenting patterns such as the eyebrow currently
> in cardboard. The eyebrow question will surface again in a year or so but
> the patterns might not. If we had a cad file they could be reproduced
> again and again. These files could live on the Matronics site to be
> accessed by all.
>
> I have seen mention of some of people putting the Piet into CAD perhaps
> somebody would document the pieces that we all seem to need every once in
> a while. It will take some time but we could build a good library of
> important bits.
>
> Interested to hear your thoughts.
>
> Steve in Maine
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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>
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Jack Textor, 53...like to be flying by 55 if I'm lucky. Working on
center section, wings ready for assembly, tail feathers done, fuselage
and gear almost done, 99% to go!
www.textors.com <http://www.textors.com/>
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| Subject: | List: Builder's Ages |
Al Lyscars, 49, in Portland, Maine. Working the 4130 fittings and wing
ribs.
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| Subject: | Re: builders ages |
Jack,
Nice site. See your favorite ,,,Destin, Fl
My parents lived in Ft Walton Beach for years. When visiting, always
had to go see that beautiful beach.
Here's some pics of my center section
walt evans
NX140DL
do not archive
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack T. Textor
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: builders ages
Jack Textor, 53.like to be flying by 55 if I'm lucky. Working on
center section, wings ready for assembly, tail feathers done, fuselage
and gear almost done, 99% to go!
www.textors.com
do not archive
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Hey gang,
Thought I'd comment on the age thing. Tim Hansen, age 22, been
planning, gathering, doing building-related-stuff since '99 (as long
as it takes, small college student budget). Doing my part to hold
down the average :) Hey Mike, good luck with yur age vs. waistline
thing, I'd be happy to keep mine with in 50%:) By the way, O-H!
(......wait for it...) I-O!
Go Bucks!! Thinking about gettin' some gator steaks from kroger...
Tim Hansen in "Overcast N' Rainy But Thank Goodness It Isn't Snow"
Ohio
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Tim,
You lost me in a sea of acronyms, and misspellings.
Help this old Piet guy out.
Ebonics I know....."Word Up?"
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: <glich7@juno.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 5:27 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: average age
>
> Hey gang,
> Thought I'd comment on the age thing. Tim Hansen, age 22, been
> planning, gathering, doing building-related-stuff since '99 (as long
> as it takes, small college student budget). Doing my part to hold
> down the average :) Hey Mike, good luck with yur age vs. waistline
> thing, I'd be happy to keep mine with in 50%:) By the way, O-H!
> (......wait for it...) I-O!
> Go Bucks!! Thinking about gettin' some gator steaks from kroger...
>
> Tim Hansen in "Overcast N' Rainy But Thank Goodness It Isn't Snow"
> Ohio
>
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So far after you people posting your age it looks to me like all of you are
spring chickens. This old goat will be having my 69th Jan 9th. I am still
working on my Piet. If luck is with me maybe I can finish mine in 2 years.Also
in the mean time I have to paint my Beech Musketeer so I can sell it and spent
the money on the Piet The wife frowns on my spending on the Piet when the
Mouse is just setting in the hanger.So I must be plane poor.
Ted Stone
Wilmington NC
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Walt,
I understood it perfectly. But then, I've had a martini or two this
evening. And I have several undergrads in the lab who keep me on my
toes! ;)
(Hint: Those aren't misspellings. Think text messaging. Just a new
form of shorthand. Took me a while to understand the students' email
messages, too. They're not stupid; it's efficient.)
J
>
>Tim,
>You lost me in a sea of acronyms, and misspellings.
>Help this old Piet guy out.
>Ebonics I know....."Word Up?"
>walt evans
>NX140DL
>
>"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
>Ben Franklin
>----- Original Message ----- From: <glich7@juno.com>
>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 5:27 PM
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: average age
>
>>
>>Hey gang,
>>Thought I'd comment on the age thing. Tim Hansen, age 22, been
>>planning, gathering, doing building-related-stuff since '99 (as long
>>as it takes, small college student budget). Doing my part to hold
>>down the average :) Hey Mike, good luck with yur age vs. waistline
>>thing, I'd be happy to keep mine with in 50%:) By the way, O-H!
>>(......wait for it...) I-O!
>>Go Bucks!! Thinking about gettin' some gator steaks from kroger...
>>
>>Tim Hansen in "Overcast N' Rainy But Thank Goodness It Isn't Snow"
>>Ohio
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Ron Eisaman / Linden,PA
I finished most of the ribs when I was about 40, took a 10 year hiatus,
and now I am getting back to it. I am more fortunate than a lot of guys...I
have over 2000 sq. ft. of shop/storage space, and am now procuring everything
I
need to finish the project. I figured I could save a bunch on shipping if I
just take the hit now, get all that I need and get it over with.
Can't wait to put a face to your names at Brodhead.
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Thanks Walt, beautiful work! C-section is a bit more complicated then
ribs! Is it prudent NOT glue anything until all the parts are done?
Thanks,
Jack
Jack Textor
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt
evans
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: builders ages
Jack,
Nice site. See your favorite ,,,Destin, Fl
My parents lived in Ft Walton Beach for years. When visiting, always
had to go see that beautiful beach.
Here's some pics of my center section
walt evans
NX140DL
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"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jack T. Textor <mailto:jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: builders ages
Jack Textor, 53...like to be flying by 55 if I'm lucky. Working
on center section, wings ready for assembly, tail feathers done,
fuselage and gear almost done, 99% to go!
www.textors.com
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| Subject: | Re: builders ages |
Walt, very nice! Where did you get your fuel tank? Did you build it?
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: builders ages
Jack,
Nice site. See your favorite ,,,Destin, Fl
My parents lived in Ft Walton Beach for years. When visiting, always
had to go see that beautiful beach.
Here's some pics of my center section
walt evans
NX140DL
do not archive
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack T. Textor
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: builders ages
Jack Textor, 53.like to be flying by 55 if I'm lucky. Working on
center section, wings ready for assembly, tail feathers done, fuselage
and gear almost done, 99% to go!
www.textors.com
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| Subject: | Another dumb question |
Has anyone used a 72-44 prop with their A-65 Piet.? How has it worked
out?
I need a new prop and have seen one of the above for sale. In the past
some have advised that they use a 72-43 with good results so was
wondering what 1 more degree of pitch would do.
Anyone know of a good prop for sale?
Gene
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Duane,
I just saw a photo of your plane at westcoastpiet.com. What engine
and prop are you using? The prop seems huge.
Thanks,
Jeff
--
Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
Atlanta, GA 30322
Editor-in-Chief
Molecular Vision
http://www.molvis.org/
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| Subject: | Re: Duane Woolsey? |
In a message dated 1/7/2007 9:10:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jboatri@emory.edu writes:
Duane,
I just saw a photo of your plane at westcoastpiet.com. What engine
and prop are you using? The prop seems huge.
Thanks,
Jeff
Good eye (tee hee) , Jeff. I have seen that pic many times and wondered the
same thing. What's the story, Duane?
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: builders ages |
Gene,
Yeah, I used the shape that was shown in the original plans. Made
Posterboard (Oaktag for us older guys) patterns, and cut it out of soft
aluminum. Learned how to TIG weld and thought it was easy. After I
welded both this tank and the main tank, filled it with water. Could
have used them for a watering can. :^).
Asked a deal with my friend Don C. and he rewelded both tanks to
perfection.
Right now he's building about his 5th project,,,A Titan Tornado.
Here's my main tank
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene & Tammy
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: builders ages
Walt, very nice! Where did you get your fuel tank? Did you build
it?
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: builders ages
Jack,
Nice site. See your favorite ,,,Destin, Fl
My parents lived in Ft Walton Beach for years. When visiting,
always had to go see that beautiful beach.
Here's some pics of my center section
walt evans
NX140DL
do not archive
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack T. Textor
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: builders ages
Jack Textor, 53.like to be flying by 55 if I'm lucky. Working on
center section, wings ready for assembly, tail feathers done, fuselage
and gear almost done, 99% to go!
www.textors.com
do not archive
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat
ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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| Subject: | Re: List: Builder's Ages |
Roman Bukolt Madison, WI. age 71
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From: Alan Lyscars
To: Piet List
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 11:48 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: List: Builder's Ages
Al Lyscars, 49, in Portland, Maine. Working the 4130 fittings and
wing ribs.
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| Subject: | Re: builders ages |
Hey Mike I just realized I'm right at the waist line/age thing! Does that mean
that from now on I might be okay, since last year I guess I was on the wrong
side!?
I started by saving my lunch money as a very poor college student at 20 and after
7 moves, 4 jobs, 1 marriage, 3 1/2 kids (one on the way), 3 dogs (separately),
building one shop, building one house, and 12 trips to Brodhead I finally
flew it at 32. I'm now 34, still married and more poor than when I started!
:-) Sure is fun though!!
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: Another dumb question |
I'm running a Hegy 72 X 44 prop on my A-65. It does fairly well. The outside
air temperature of course makes a big difference. I get 350- 400 fpm solo and
full fuel at about 80 degrees. With the same at 40 degrees I get 500-550 fpm.
I cruise around 80 mph. I suppose it's not the optimum prop but it does okay.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: Duane Woolsey? |
Duane Woolsey is not on this list. He sold the plane back in 98 (?) or
there about. It had a Subaru AE81. I don't know the current owner. Steve
Eldredge in Utah might know how to get in touch with Duane. John Dilatush
used an Turbo AE82 in his, by the way.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Boatright" <jboatri@emory.edu>
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 5:58 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Duane Woolsey?
>
> Duane,
>
> I just saw a photo of your plane at westcoastpiet.com. What engine and
> prop are you using? The prop seems huge.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
> --
> Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor
> Department of Ophthalmology
> Emory University School of Medicine
> Atlanta, GA 30322
> Editor-in-Chief
> Molecular Vision
> http://www.molvis.org/
>
>
>
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I was just sitting in front of the t.v. paging thru the Wicks cataloug.
I happened to spot on pages 283-284, items called a "Prop Kit". They
are a Vortelator device that clain to add 20-50 rpm and increase speed.
Has anyone tried one of these? Any power increase with an A-65 would
help.
Also, I just read the post by Don Emch. I run a Senenich 72-42. His
numbers are much better than mine for climb and speed. Does anyone else
have a similar prop?
Don, do you get a full static run up with that prop? I don't care about
the speed but your climb is better than my 200-250 fpm.
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: builders ages |
I was 42 when I started building with my good friend and mentor, Doug Bryant.
45 or 46 when I started flying it, and now have well over 300 very enjoyable
hours on 'er. I had 'Builders Withdraw Symptoms', and now, at 51, I've been
working on my 2nd homebuilt, a Wittman Tailwind, on and off for about 5 years.
Building and flying airplanes have been an incredible journey for me !!
Chuck Gantzer
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In a message dated 1/7/2007 10:50:59 PM Central Standard Time,
horzpool@goldengate.net writes:
I was just sitting in front of the t.v. paging thru the Wicks cataloug. I
happened to spot on pages 283-284, items called a "Prop Kit". They are a
Vortelator device that clain to add 20-50 rpm and increase speed. Has anyone tried
one of these? Any power increase with an A-65 would help.
Also, I just read the post by Don Emch. I run a Senenich 72-42. His numbers
are much better than mine for climb and speed. Does anyone else have a
similar prop?
Don, do you get a full static run up with that prop? I don't care about the
speed but your climb is better than my 200-250 fpm.
Dick N.
Dick,
Is that Vortelator device anything like Dimple Tape ? Bill Rewey has that on
his prop, and I think he claims that it increased the rpm about 50 rpm.
I have my homebuilt 72 / 42 and have similar performance as you do.
Gene, Both numbers are in Inches. 72" diameter, and 42" pitch. The pitch is
how far the prop will advance in one revolution, with a theoretical No Slip
condition.
Chuck G.
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| Subject: | Re: Get Started! Do Something! |
Oh, I don't think so. :-) Try Homebuilt Aircraft, June, 1978.
Tom and Lee Baker. N8889? maybe X.
I have that issue in my Piet stash too.
Clif
Cliff,
That person was Jim Malley of this group. I still have the Kitplanes
issue that featured his Pietenpol on the front cover.
It was because of that, that I decided to build a Piet.
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| Subject: | Re: tenpol-List:-CAD |
I'm a pencil and ruler man but I ran across this one day.
http://deltacad.com/index.html
Clif
Rick,
Program I use is Visio 2000, it is a simple draft program.
By no means as good and versatile as AutoCAD but cheap and simple to
use.
Hans
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