---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 01/13/07: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:57 AM - Re: tail tiedown release (Gene and Tammy) 2. 07:01 AM - Re: A response to having a flyin.. (Isablcorky@aol.com) 3. 09:53 AM - Re: A response to having a flyin.. (KMHeide) 4. 12:36 PM - flying straight (Andimaxd@aol.com) 5. 01:48 PM - Re: flying straight (Steve Glass) 6. 02:19 PM - Re: flying straight (Andimaxd@aol.com) 7. 03:06 PM - Re: flying straight (gcardinal) 8. 08:22 PM - Re: flying straight (Rcaprd@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:09 AM PST US From: "Gene and Tammy" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tail tiedown release Oscar, Great looking release! Looking forward to your report once you've used it. Gene : > > Your Hotmail address already works to sign into Windows Live Messenger! > Get it now > > > Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (3.1.0.10 - 9.055.001). > http://www.pctools.com/anti-virus/ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:01:33 AM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A response to having a flyin.. Ken, Is this the place where I am to pick up Blue Boy? Corky ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:53:57 AM PST US From: KMHeide Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A response to having a flyin.. No.....It was just a post from another flyer who made it know he was not going to host any flyins on his strip... Isablcorky@aol.com wrote: Ken, Is this the place where I am to pick up Blue Boy? Corky --------------------------------- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:36:29 PM PST US From: Andimaxd@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying straight Howdy group, It's cold down here in Texas today... I've been a lurker for quiet some time. I'm afraid of heights and don't really believe in airplane's, I've heard they are really dangerous. I can barely stand on a ladder without getting scared. All that said, we mounted our vertical stabilizer straight with the world, no offset in the front to counter P-factor and torque. I was just wondering what the experts here thought about this. Will I end up having to put a degree or two in, will it be noticeable, or can it be fixed with a ground adjustable tab on the rudder or what? I would like to know in inches how far the offset is (and in which direction) it should be, half inch, one inch or whatever some of you are flying with. The A-75 does have an offset, I don't remember exactly how much; and how many flying have no offset... Thanks in advance, Max L. Davis Arlington, TX. NX101XW (Reserved) ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:48:17 PM PST US From: "Steve Glass" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: flying straight Hi Max Here attached is a picture of an adjuster I had copied and filed away. Best regards Steve in Maine >From: Andimaxd@aol.com >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying straight >Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 15:35:52 EST > >Howdy group, > >It's cold down here in Texas today... > >I've been a lurker for quiet some time. I'm afraid of heights and don't >really believe in airplane's, I've heard they are really dangerous. I can >barely stand on a ladder without getting scared. > > >All that said, we mounted our vertical stabilizer straight with the world, >no offset in the front to counter P-factor and torque. I was just >wondering >what the experts here thought about this. Will I end up having to put a >degree or two in, will it be noticeable, or can it be fixed with a ground >adjustable tab on the rudder or what? I would like to know in inches how >far the >offset is (and in which direction) it should be, half inch, one inch or >whatever >some of you are flying with. The A-75 does have an offset, I don't >remember >exactly how much; and how many flying have no offset... > >Thanks in advance, >Max L. Davis >Arlington, TX. >NX101XW (Reserved) _________________________________________________________________ Your Hotmail address already works to sign into Windows Live Messenger! Get it now ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:19:51 PM PST US From: Andimaxd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying straight In a message dated 1/13/2007 3:50:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, redsglass@hotmail.com writes: Here attached is a picture of an adjuster I had copied and filed away. Best regards Steve in Maine Steve, I appreciate your picture, I've seen it before. My issue is that mine is installed, sans adjustment apparatus. I'm just wondering what to expect during the flight phase. I think Chuck G.'s is straight like mine, but I can't remember for sure. Max ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:06:03 PM PST US From: "gcardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying straight I would strongly suggest you build in a means of adjusting both the vertical and horizontal stabilizers for trim adjustments. You will be glad you did if you discover that you need it. Greg C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Andimaxd@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 2:35 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying straight Howdy group, It's cold down here in Texas today... I've been a lurker for quiet some time. I'm afraid of heights and don't really believe in airplane's, I've heard they are really dangerous. I can barely stand on a ladder without getting scared. All that said, we mounted our vertical stabilizer straight with the world, no offset in the front to counter P-factor and torque. I was just wondering what the experts here thought about this. Will I end up having to put a degree or two in, will it be noticeable, or can it be fixed with a ground adjustable tab on the rudder or what? I would like to know in inches how far the offset is (and in which direction) it should be, half inch, one inch or whatever some of you are flying with. The A-75 does have an offset, I don't remember exactly how much; and how many flying have no offset... Thanks in advance, Max L. Davis Arlington, TX. NX101XW (Reserved) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:22:28 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying straight In a message dated 1/13/2007 4:21:29 PM Central Standard Time, Andimaxd@aol.com writes: Steve, I appreciate your picture, I've seen it before. My issue is that mine is installed, sans adjustment apparatus. I'm just wondering what to expect during the flight phase. I think Chuck G.'s is straight like mine, but I can't remember for sure. Max Hey Mad Dawg, You're right, my vertical fin is straight. After flying for a couple of years with a very slight pressure on the right rudder bar, I decided to install a non adjustable trim tab on the rudder, similar in design to the ones that I have on the flippers. I used a 5" piece of balsa wood trailing edge (from the hobby store for R.C. planes), and duct taped it to the center of the trailing edge of the rudder. I radiused the leading edge of the balsa, to match the trailing edge of the rudder, with sand paper wrapped around an ink pen. Put a slight angle on each end, so it can blend in. Duct tape it at an approximate angle, and go fly. I've adjusted the angle twice, and now I have a permanent angle, that allows neutral pressure on the rudder bar. Now I remove the duct tape, and glue it on at that angle, cover it with fabric & paint. Using this method makes a clean looking install, and no screws are needed. I've got a picture of the method here - http://nx770cg.com/Fuselage.html Fine tune the pitch trim with the flying wires on the tail, by adjusting the turnbuckles to raise or lower the leading edge of the horizontal stab. Chuck G. 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