---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/18/07: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:02 AM - Re: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers (Gene and Tammy) 2. 06:10 AM - Re: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers (Phillips, Jack) 3. 06:10 AM - Re: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers (hvandervoo@aol.com) 4. 07:11 AM - Re: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers (Gene and Tammy) 5. 08:12 AM - Re: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers (Dave Abramson) 6. 09:17 AM - Re: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers (Gene and Tammy) 7. 11:38 AM - Brake calipers, slow flight (TBYH@aol.com) 8. 11:56 AM - Re: Short Landings (Tom Stinemetze) 9. 12:35 PM - passed your checkride ! (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]) 10. 01:16 PM - Re: Re: Short Landings (Jdavis2a@wmconnect.com) 11. 01:38 PM - Re: Brake calipers, slow flight (Phillips, Jack) 12. 02:15 PM - brake calipers (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]) 13. 02:40 PM - Re: Brake calipers, slow flight (Gene and Tammy) 14. 04:55 PM - Re: Re: Short Landings (Steve Singleton) 15. 04:58 PM - Re: Re: Short Landings (Steve Singleton) 16. 07:35 PM - passed your checkride! (Oscar Zuniga) 17. 10:10 PM - Re: down in 230' (Rcaprd@aol.com) 18. 10:22 PM - Re: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers (Rcaprd@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:26 AM PST US From: "Gene and Tammy" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers Once again, Thanks everyone for all of the good input. As I understand it, what may work well from one prop maker will not necessarily work well from another. I have been told by one prop maker that he thought 74X38 would be the best all around prop for the 65 Piet. Anyone use this prop? Gene N502R Tennessee ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Navratil To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers I'm with you on that, Jack. A couple of weeks ago in discussion, someone had much better climb performance with the same engine. It would be worth the change if we could climb out better. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillips, Jack To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 11:55 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers I've got a certified Sensenich 72 x 42 and I'm not all that happy with it. On the way back from OSH in 2005, I flew through some pretty heavy rain (got myself soaked). The rain knocked all the varnish off the brass leading edge, although the varnish on the wood itself seemed to hold up alright. I don't think it is pitched right for a Pietenpol climb prop as I can't get full redline RPM in level flight at full throttle. I've got a St. Croix that is 74 x 36 that I want to try this spring, to see if I can get a little better climb. Jack Phillips NX899JP http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. com _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:23 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers From: "Phillips, Jack" As I said in an earlier post, I've got a St. Croix that is 74 x 36 and was supposedly designed for a Pietenpol, as a climb prop. I have not flown it yet, but will do so this spring. Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC - where it is currently snowing on top of the sleet we got last night. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene and Tammy Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:02 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers Once again, Thanks everyone for all of the good input. As I understand it, what may work well from one prop maker will not necessarily work well from another. I have been told by one prop maker that he thought 74X38 would be the best all around prop for the 65 Piet. Anyone use this prop? Gene N502R Tennessee ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Navratil To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers I'm with you on that, Jack. A couple of weeks ago in discussion, someone had much better climb performance with the same engine. It would be worth the change if we could climb out better. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillips, Jack To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 11:55 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers I've got a certified Sensenich 72 x 42 and I'm not all that happy with it. On the way back from OSH in 2005, I flew through some pretty heavy rain (got myself soaked). The rain knocked all the varnish off the brass leading edge, although the varnish on the wood itself seemed to hold up alright. I don't think it is pitched right for a Pietenpol climb prop as I can't get full redline RPM in level flight at full throttle. I've got a St. Croix that is 74 x 36 that I want to try this spring, to see if I can get a little better climb. Jack Phillips NX899JP http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matr onics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matr onics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it i n error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:42 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers From: hvandervoo@aol.com Dan, Only once and for a short time, less than 5 minutes. No noticeable difference on the prop. Not fun in a open cockpit Piet. Did make some landings in high grass, where the prop acted as a weed-wacker. I must state I clean my prop after most flights and frequently wax the prop. The wax (TURTLE WAX) helps in removing bugs and grass stains. Hans -----Original Message----- From: HelsperSew@aol.com Sent: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:58 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers Hans, You said you had the urethane leading edge on your prop. Have you ever flown through rain, and if so, how did it hold up? Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:48 AM PST US From: "Gene and Tammy" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers I didn't realize your 74 X 36 was made for a Piet. Where can I get information on the St Croix? Haven't heard of them before. If you were a dedicated mentor you'd say "Damn the snow and rain, I'm going to put that prop on today and fly it so Gene will know if he should order one." Corky would do that, wouldn't you Corky. As a side note, I fould Ed Sterba's phone number and I'm giving him a call today as well as Tennessee Props. Gene PS I'll spend the day waiting for your report on how well your St Croix does. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillips, Jack To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 8:09 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers As I said in an earlier post, I've got a St. Croix that is 74 x 36 and was supposedly designed for a Pietenpol, as a climb prop. I have not flown it yet, but will do so this spring. Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC - where it is currently snowing on top of the sleet we got last night. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Navratil To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers I'm with you on that, Jack. A couple of weeks ago in discussion, someone had much better climb performance with the same engine. It would be worth the change if we could climb out better. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillips, Jack To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 11:55 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers I've got a certified Sensenich 72 x 42 and I'm not all that happy with it. On the way back from OSH in 2005, I flew through some pretty heavy rain (got myself soaked). The rain knocked all the varnish off the brass leading edge, although the varnish on the wood itself seemed to hold up alright. I don't think it is pitched right for a Pietenpol climb prop as I can't get full redline RPM in level flight at full throttle. I've got a St. Croix that is 74 x 36 that I want to try this spring, to see if I can get a little better climb. Jack Phillips NX899JP http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. com _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. 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If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:12:42 AM PST US From: "Dave Abramson" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers The Phone # for St Croix Aircraft 1-641-322-4041 Chad Wille is the man!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gene and Tammy Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:11 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers I didn't realize your 74 X 36 was made for a Piet. Where can I get information on the St Croix? Haven't heard of them before. If you were a dedicated mentor you'd say "Damn the snow and rain, I'm going to put that prop on today and fly it so Gene will know if he should order one." Corky would do that, wouldn't you Corky. As a side note, I fould Ed Sterba's phone number and I'm giving him a call today as well as Tennessee Props. Gene PS I'll spend the day waiting for your report on how well your St Croix does. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillips, Jack Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 8:09 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers As I said in an earlier post, I've got a St. Croix that is 74 x 36 and was supposedly designed for a Pietenpol, as a climb prop. I have not flown it yet, but will do so this spring. Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC - where it is currently snowing on top of the sleet we got last night. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Navratil Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers I'm with you on that, Jack. A couple of weeks ago in discussion, someone had much better climb performance with the same engine. It would be worth the change if we could climb out better. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillips, Jack Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 11:55 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers I've got a certified Sensenich 72 x 42 and I'm not all that happy with it. On the way back from OSH in 2005, I flew through some pretty heavy rain (got myself soaked). The rain knocked all the varnish off the brass leading edge, although the varnish on the wood itself seemed to hold up alright. I don't think it is pitched right for a Pietenpol climb prop as I can't get full redline RPM in level flight at full throttle. I've got a St. Croix that is 74 x 36 that I want to try this spring, to see if I can get a little better climb. Jack Phillips NX899JP http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. 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I'll give Chad a call. --- Original Message ----- From: Dave Abramson To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:12 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers The Phone # for St Croix Aircraft 1-641-322-4041 Chad Wille is the man!!!!!!! http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. 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If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">h ttp://forums.matronics.com - The Pietenpol-List Email Forum - --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - --> http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:38:46 AM PST US From: TBYH@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brake calipers, slow flight Question: I asked this once before but don't recall what the responses were -- what would you all recommend for disk brake calipers. I see that at the bottom end there are Manco mechanically actuated calipers that are very inexpensive and from there calipers go up to more than $100 for juice actuated brakes. Let me know your thoughts -- I've got the Jenny-style landing gear. Speaking of slow flight -- way back in 1978 I learned to fly in a 150-HP SuperCub. The day of my flight exam it was cold and rather windy but we went out anyway. The winds aloft were even stronger straight out of the Northwest, gusting to 35 mph...while demonstrating slow flight the examiner had me head into that northwesterly wind because he wanted to see if we could go backwards. I had it slowed down just hanging on the prop and edge of a stall until we almost did creep backwards over the ground! We sure weren't moving ahead! The FBO sold the Cub not long after that -- always loved that airplane and I was told by the FBO owner that I was the first person to get a private ticket in a tailwheel airplane at the La Crosse airport in nearly 20 years. The SuperCub sure wasn't fast, but she'd sure get off the ground quick. Never used the flaps either, preferring to slip her in -- great fun! In fact, my instructor had neglected to teach me about the flaps and the first time I used them was on that check ride! Enough rambling --let me know your thoughts on brake calipers...Many thanks! Fred Beseler La Crosse, WI _TBYH@aol.com_ (mailto:TBYH@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:56:58 AM PST US From: "Tom Stinemetze" Subject: Pietenpol-List: RE: Short Landings Just so the list members won't think that I died or gave up on my Pietenpol project since you haven't heard from me for about 6-months - just a word of update. I have not been building since I haven't the funds or time to build at the same time that I am taking flying lessons. Well, that's about to change as I passed my Private Pilot check ride about two hours ago. Winds 18 kts gusting to 25 - WHAT WAS I THINKING? Well, it was either do it today or wait and see what the next ice storm / blizzard / "winter mix" has in store for us this weekend. I want to hear all your "ho humm" stories about how easy your check ride was. Back to the Workshop for me! Tom Stinemetze McPherson, KS ____ | ____ \8/ / \ ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:53 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: passed your checkride ! From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" Way to go Tom Stinemetze on passing your private checkride and letting us know !!!! Sure is more fun to build a Piet if you know you are qualified to fly it when you're done. Excellent. I half think that you have a better chance of passing a checkride on a rough day since you have to prove you can handle the plane in adverse conditions---and you did ! Loved my checkride in 1981. WWII veteran. Instructor from Kent State University named Dick Schwabe. He flew more of the checkride than I did because he rarely got time in much else than 150's and I showed up in a Grumman AA-1B. Still a rough, windy day and despite my flaws, he passed me. Mike C. PS-- you'll sleep good tonight ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:16:06 PM PST US From: Jdavis2a@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: RE: Short Landings CONGRATS!!!!!! from Tulsa ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:38:29 PM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brake calipers, slow flight From: "Phillips, Jack" Fred, I've got regular Cleveland 8" discs on mine. Got 'em on ebay for $25. The pads were worn and had to be replaced (okay, add another $22 to the cost) but they work fine. Any less brake and I wouldn't be able to hold it for a runup. I've got the Jenny style gear and 21" wheels. Those big wheels are mighty hard to stop. Airplanes quit using big wheels about the time they started using brakes. Jack Phillips Snow has stopped in Raleigh. Now it's just foggy. And COLD -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TBYH@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brake calipers, slow flight Question: I asked this once before but don't recall what the responses were -- what would you all recommend for disk brake calipers. I see that at the bottom end there are Manco mechanically actuated calipers that are very inexpensive and from there calipers go up to more than $100 for juice actuated brakes. Let me know your thoughts -- I've got the Jenny-style landing gear. Speaking of slow flight -- way back in 1978 I learned to fly in a 150-HP SuperCub. The day of my flight exam it was cold and rather windy but we went out anyway. The winds aloft were even stronger straight out of the Northwest, gusting to 35 mph...while demonstrating slow flight the examiner had me head into that northwesterly wind because he wanted to see if we could go backwards. I had it slowed down just hanging on the prop and edge of a stall until we almost did creep backwards over the ground! We sure weren't moving ahead! The FBO sold the Cub not long after that -- always loved that airplane and I was told by the FBO owner that I was the first person to get a private ticket in a tailwheel airplane at the La Crosse airport in nearly 20 years. The SuperCub sure wasn't fast, but she'd sure get off the ground quick. Never used the flaps either, preferring to slip her in -- great fun! In fact, my instructor had neglected to teach me about the flaps and the first time I used them was on that check ride! Enough rambling --let me know your thoughts on brake calipers...Many thanks! Fred Beseler La Crosse, WI TBYH@aol.com _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it i n error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:15:45 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: brake calipers From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" Fred, I purchased Comet brake calipers at a local lawnmower/ go-kart shop http://www.hoffcocomet.com/comet/aftermarket-brakes.asp (scroll down when you get there) and traded aerial photos of a machinist friend's home for him to turn some rotors that fit my wheel hubs. My wheels are 19" and my rotors are 6" in diameter and the Comet DC Series caliper just hold me for run-up and no more---which works out fine. As you've seen my plane at Brodhead, I made up heel brakes ala Cub/Champ and actuate the calipers with 1/16" cable. Lots of ATV brakes out there too now which I'm sure would be worth looking into depending on what suites you. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:40:17 PM PST US From: "Gene and Tammy" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brake calipers, slow flight OK, OK, Guess the fog lets you out of the propeller trial. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillips, Jack To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:27 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Brake calipers, slow flight Fred, I've got regular Cleveland 8" discs on mine. Got 'em on ebay for $25. The pads were worn and had to be replaced (okay, add another $22 to the cost) but they work fine. Any less brake and I wouldn't be able to hold it for a runup. I've got the Jenny style gear and 21" wheels. Those big wheels are mighty hard to stop. Airplanes quit using big wheels about the time they started using brakes. Jack Phillips Snow has stopped in Raleigh. Now it's just foggy. And COLD ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List .com ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:55:31 PM PST US From: "Steve Singleton" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: RE: Short Landings ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Stinemetze" Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: RE: Short Landings > > > Just so the list members won't think that I died or gave up on my > Pietenpol project since you haven't heard from me for about 6-months - > just a word of update. I have not been building since I haven't the > funds or time to build at the same time that I am taking flying lessons. > Well, that's about to change as I passed my Private Pilot check ride > about two hours ago. Winds 18 kts gusting to 25 - WHAT WAS I THINKING? > Well, it was either do it today or wait and see what the next ice storm > / blizzard / "winter mix" has in store for us this weekend. I want to > hear all your "ho humm" stories about how easy your check ride was. > > Back to the Workshop for me! > > Tom Stinemetze > McPherson, KS > > ____ | ____ > \8/ > / \ > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:58:34 PM PST US From: "Steve Singleton" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: RE: Short Landings Congradulations Tom! Happy for you. Steve Singleton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Stinemetze" Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: RE: Short Landings > > > Just so the list members won't think that I died or gave up on my > Pietenpol project since you haven't heard from me for about 6-months - > just a word of update. I ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:35:48 PM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: passed your checkride! There is only one time in your life when you will pass your private pilot checkride, Tom, so savor the moment. I remember mine like it was yesterday. Andy Anderson, old-time instructor at David Wayne Hooks Memorial field outside of Houston, TX- gave me my checkride. Smooth and strong as an old hickory walking stick was old Andy, skin was the color of walnut and just as sturdy. I took my ride in a Piper Warrior that I knew inside and out and it went great. Andy pulled the old "darn... these old fingers... I dropped my pencil down there by the flap handle. Would you reach and get it while I try to fold this sectional, please?" while he put the airplane in an unusual attitude and messed up my inner ear. No problem; I recovered it and we moved on. He put me through the paces and I wanted him to. I wanted to please that examiner more than anything else in the world. He was my golden gate to my flying future and I wanted his name in my logbook that day. I wanted to show him that I knew how to fly an airplane. When we landed and he signed me off (he never really said I'd passed until he had signed me off), he told me that he used to be a Navy basic training instructor during the war and that he had sent boys younger than me off to fly fighters and bombers in a war, with fewer hours than I had in my logbook, and we're not talking about Piper Warriors either. Don't sell yourself short... the human mind and body can learn and perform things far more complex than flying a single-engine light aircraft with much less training than we receive, especially when we're doing something that we fervently enjoy and want to excel at. Now you have your ticket to learn. I found out that these old airplanes are good teachers, too ;o) Now follow me off my wing as I fly 41CC through that big field with the trees alongside it up ahead. The space between the trees and the fencerow is plenty wide enough to clear our wingtips. Smoke on and down onto the deck!!! Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes is here. Get all the scoop. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/?icid=nctagline2 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:10:55 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: down in 230' In a message dated 1/17/2007 7:02:18 AM Central Standard Time, Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com writes: Winds were 250 at 20 kts, gusts to 25 (remember the winds that morning, Chuck?). Ah yes, Jack, I remember that morning well. Brodhead '05, and you took off shortly before I did, en route to that other show up north. You must have stayed low on that leg, because the winds at 3000' msl where I was, were quite different. I don't really know why I climbed that high...I think I just wanted to see more of the beautiful Wisconsin countryside from the higher altitude. I got about 15 miles to the north of Brodhead, trying to track to the North, but the strong winds out of the West caused the nose of my plane to point almost directly West !! I had almost full power in, and was indicating just over 75 mph, and according to my GPS, I had about 15 mph. ground speed. At one point, I noticed a tower to the North, between the right struts a couple of miles away. Five minutes later that tower was still in the same place...10 minutes later, still there...15 minutes later that tower didn't change location !! I've never been in that situation before, where I'm trying to track north, heading west, with almost full power in and getting nowhere. It was a strange feeling. I decided to abort the leg to Oshkosh, and headed back to Brodhead. For a while, I wasn't sure that I could even make it back, till I dropped to a much lower altitude where the winds weren't quite as strong. I finally made it back to Brodhead, and rode up to Oshkosh with Dennis & Kathy E. We had a great time there, but I never could find Jack. Chuck G. NX770CG ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:22:58 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers In a message dated 1/18/2007 8:13:15 AM Central Standard Time, Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com writes: As I said in an earlier post, I=99ve got a St. Croix that is 74 x 36 a nd was supposedly designed for a Pietenpol, as a climb prop. I have not flown it y et, but will do so this spring. Jack, I'm very interested in how the 74 X 36 prop changes the performance of your plane. I think the longer blades, with a shorter pitch would work better on a Pietenpol...at least as far as climb / short field take off performance, but I've never heard of anyone using that prop on their Piet. It just seems lik e the standard prop for an A 65 has always been a 72 X 42 prop. Chuck G. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.