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1. 04:57 AM - Re: down in 230' (Phillips, Jack)
2. 05:21 AM - Re: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers (Phillips, Jack)
3. 05:57 AM - prop swaps (Oscar Zuniga)
4. 06:18 AM - Re: prop swaps (Phillips, Jack)
5. 06:35 AM - Re: passed your checkride! (Joe Krzes)
6. 06:51 AM - Re: passed your checkride! (Hans Vander Voort)
7. 07:09 AM - taper-shaft prop hubs, Continentals (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
8. 09:07 AM - passed your checkride! (Oscar Zuniga)
9. 04:30 PM - Re: passed your check ride! (Tom Stinemetze)
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I never got more than 500 feet off the ground on that trip, Chuck
(typical Pietenpol altitude for me). I know why you went high - trying
to get out of the turbulence down low. It about beat me to death. Down
low the winds were more from the west-southwet and I had a pretty good
tailwind component. As I recall, I was seeing groundspeed on the GPS of
around 90 mph.
I only stayed at OSH until Wednesday morning, then took off for the long
trip home.
I'm bringing the RV-4 this year. Will you have your Tailwind at
Brodhead this summer?
Jack
Trying to stay focused on building the RV-10 (yawn). Not as much
challenge or fun as a Pietenpol, but slightly better for travelling
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: down in 230'
In a message dated 1/17/2007 7:02:18 AM Central Standard Time,
Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com writes:
Winds were 250 at
20 kts, gusts to 25 (remember the winds that morning, Chuck?).
Ah yes, Jack, I remember that morning well. Brodhead '05, and you took
off shortly before I did, en route to that other show up north. You
must have stayed low on that leg, because the winds at 3000' msl where I
was, were quite different. I don't really know why I climbed that
high...I think I just wanted to see more of the beautiful Wisconsin
countryside from the higher altitude. I got about 15 miles to the north
of Brodhead, trying to track to the North, but the strong winds out of
the West caused the nose of my plane to point almost directly West !! I
had almost full power in, and was indicating just over 75 mph, and
according to my GPS, I had about 15 mph. ground speed. At one point, I
noticed a tower to the North, between the right struts a couple of miles
away. Five minutes later that tower was still in the same place...10
minutes later, still there...15 minutes later that tower didn't change
location !! I've never been in that situation before, where I'm trying
to track north, heading west, with almost full power in and getting
nowhere. It was a strange feeling. I decided to abort the leg to
Oshkosh, and headed back to Brodhead. For a while, I wasn't sure that I
could even make it back, till I dropped to a much lower altitude where
the winds weren't quite as strong. I finally made it back to Brodhead,
and rode up to Oshkosh with Dennis & Kathy E. We had a great time
there, but I never could find Jack.
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee propellers |
As I indicated, I hope to do the prop swap this spring - probably after
I fly the Pietenpol to Sun 'n' Fun. I wish I had a second prop hub -
then the swap would be easier. The St. Croix came from a fellow in our
EAA Chapter who had started a Pietenpol project with a couple of other
fellows years ago. He bought the prop and then decided he didn't like
the workmanship the rest of the team was doing, so he took his prop and
left the partnership. When he found I was building a Piet, he offered
to sell it to me for what he paid for it in the early '80's - $125. I
bought the Sensenich because I wanted to get my test time down to 25
hours, and I thought it would perform better. If the St. Croix works as
well as I think it will, I'll probably sell the Sensenich.
Jack
NX899JP
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Jay Anderson Cloudcars & Tennessee
propellers
In a message dated 1/18/2007 8:13:15 AM Central Standard Time,
Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com writes:
As I said in an earlier post, I've got a St. Croix that is 74 x
36 and was supposedly designed for a Pietenpol, as a climb prop. I have
not flown it yet, but will do so this spring.
Jack,
I'm very interested in how the 74 X 36 prop changes the performance of
your plane. I think the longer blades, with a shorter pitch would work
better on a Pietenpol...at least as far as climb / short field take off
performance, but I've never heard of anyone using that prop on their
Piet. It just seems like the standard prop for an A 65 has always been
a 72 X 42 prop.
Chuck G.
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Jack wrote-
>I wish I had a second prop hub - then the swap would be easier.
I take it that you have a tapered shaft hub and the prop bolts are the
problem? But if both props have the same thickness at the hub, can't you
use the same length bolts? What's easier about pulling and swapping the
entire prop and prop hub over swapping just the prop on the same hub?
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
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Yes, I have a tapered shaft. If I had an additional hub, I could mount
the new prop to the spare hub, then just pull the entire prop/hub
assembly off the engine and install the new one, without ever having to
remove and re-torque the prop bolts. Unfortunately, a new hub assembly
sells for somewhere in the $500 neighborhood. I bought another one on
ebay for about $100, but I was dissappointed with its quality and don't
consider it airworthy.
The tapered shaft is a pretty neat concept. The thread on the end of
the shaft allows the threaded collar on the hub to act as a "prop
puller". By inserting a 1/2" diameter rod into the hole in that collar,
you can just unscrew the whole assembly, backing the hub off the keyed
taper of the crankshaft.
Jack Phillips
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: prop swaps
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Jack wrote-
>I wish I had a second prop hub - then the swap would be easier.
I take it that you have a tapered shaft hub and the prop bolts are the
problem? But if both props have the same thickness at the hub, can't
you
use the same length bolts? What's easier about pulling and swapping the
entire prop and prop hub over swapping just the prop on the same hub?
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | passed your checkride! |
Yep, Ol' Andy reached down and shut the fuel off on the C-150 during my
checkride (also at DWH).
I passed. Shirt tail that was hung up in the hanger is long gone, but I
have the other part of the shirt :)
Joe
>From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
>Andy Anderson, old-time instructor at David Wayne Hooks Memorial field
>outside of Houston, TX- gave me my checkride. Smooth and strong as an old
>hickory walking stick was old Andy, skin was the color of walnut and just
>as sturdy. I took my ride in a Piper Warrior that I knew inside and out
>and it went great. Andy pulled the old "darn... these old fingers... I
>dropped my pencil down there by the flap handle. Would you reach and get
>it while I try to fold this sectional, please?" while he put the airplane
>in an unusual attitude and messed up my inner ear. No problem; I recovered
>it and we moved on.
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| Subject: | passed your checkride! |
Well I don't know Andy,
But DWH is where I passed my check ride, still rent an airplane there once
in a while.
The flight school is moving away from aluminum steam gage Cessna's and has
now plastic & glass Katana and Cirrus on the flight line.
Hans
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| Subject: | taper-shaft prop hubs, Continentals |
I agree with the practical nature of the taper-shaft prop hub design
Jack, but in reality it really wouldn't take you much longer than
an hour to remove your prop/hub assembly, knock the prop bolts out, and
re-install, torque, and track your other prop. We are
supposed to totally relax our prop bolts once a year then re-torque and
check after about 45 minutes again so you're almost 1/2 way
there with that procedure alone. I'm preaching to the choir I know,
but worth a thought I think. Too bad your weather has turned to
crap like us, but tis winter.
Mike C.
PS-- the guy who sold me my engine (runout, no logs from North Carolina,
incidentally) was not happy with himself after he found out
he should have sold me the engine sans the taper-shaft prop hub since he
could have sold it for a third again as much as he sold me
the entire engine, carb, mags, and hub for ! (I didn't know how much
those were worth either until I had the engine home in my basement)
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| Subject: | passed your checkride! |
Anybody who's flown out of DWH should also be familiar with Williams (9X1).
My instructor used to be based there and lived in a trailer onsite for a
while. It's where he met the pretty lady that would eventually be his wife.
She bought a Tri-Pacer and needed some instruction; how handy! Don't we
all wish we knew pretty ladies who owned airplanes and needed instruction.
Sort of like the old golf pros... "now just hold the club here and here,
keep your eye on the ball, and swing like this".
I flew the Warrior into Williams and it's a nifty little place nestled down
in the pines. One of these days I hope to fly the Piet there. You don't
see the airport until you're practically over it, which means you need a
fairly steep approach over the trees once you're there. I guess with the
Piet all you'd have to do is chop the power and you'd come right down.
do not archive
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
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| Subject: | Re: passed your check ride! |
> Now follow me off my wing as I fly 41CC through that big field
with the
trees alongside it up ahead. The space between the trees and the
fencerow
is plenty wide enough to clear our wingtips. Smoke on and down
onto the
deck!!! <
Oscar: Thanks for that great story. Now I'm going to have to put smoke
in the Piet for sure. Maybe I can join you, Mike C., and Chuck G. and
fog for mosquitoes at Broadhead. I hear they get pretty big up there.
Tom Stinemetze
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