---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/28/07: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:33 AM - short Piet movie; Wayne's BFR (Jeff Boatright) 2. 06:22 AM - Re: A corksickle update........ (Gene and Tammy) 3. 10:25 AM - Enforced "no build" Time (Larry Rice) 4. 10:45 AM - Re: Cold Weather Building () 5. 10:46 AM - Re: A corksickle update........ () 6. 12:24 PM - Re: Enforced "no build" Time OT (John Hofmann) 7. 01:28 PM - propane heater/was Cold Weather Building (Oscar Zuniga) 8. 03:41 PM - Re: Cold Weather Building (MICHAEL SILVIUS) 9. 06:14 PM - Re: Cold Weather Building (Dave and Connie) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:33:45 AM PST US From: Jeff Boatright Subject: Pietenpol-List: short Piet movie; Wayne's BFR Wayne took and passed his BFR in the Piet yesterday. The video is at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFZjsCnu__g It was a fairly warm day (maybe in the low 50s), but fairly windy, and due to the runway slope, they had a quartering tailwind. You'll see the effects of this in the ground run and lift off. On landing, of course, it was a headwind, and Wayne really stuck it at the numbers. It's hard to tell in the video, but that was a short landing as the field slopes very steeply at the other end, too. Anyway, hope this gives you a little smile on a cold Sunday morning! Jeff ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:38 AM PST US From: "Gene and Tammy" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A corksickle update........ Ken, Thanks for the update. I think we were all wondering how he's coming along. It's great to hear he's really enjoying the winter wonderland. What more could he ask for, other than a nice long flight over the winter scene in a Piet. I think he deserves one. Gene This has been a Corksickle update! He loves winter in North Dakota....Will try and get him to help make snowman tomorrow...before he is completely frozen and can't move! Ken H Fargo, ND ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:25:13 AM PST US From: Larry Rice Subject: Pietenpol-List: Enforced "no build" Time Jim, Keep your chin up. We all go through times that are difficult for various reasons. My project has been at a standstill due to moving and tuition & etc for 2 kids. One gets out of school in a couple months and should be supporting herself, and I'm really looking forward to it. :) Just roll with the punches & it'll come out allright. Larry the micromong guy -- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:45:32 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cold Weather Building After the ice storm of 97/98 up here in Ottawa we changed our fire place to a gas style instead of wood burning and at the flick of a switch I have instant heat even if the hydro goes off.Now mind you there won't be any blower from the fire place if the hydro is off but you can get enough heat from it to survive.Sort of like camping out.You just bring your sleeping bags down and sleep in front of the fire place.Nothing to do with Pietenpols but everything to do with survival and carbonmonoxide poisoning.There won't be any danger from this system. >From: Jim Markle >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cold Weather Building >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:03:09 -0600 (GMT-06:00) > > > >I once had one of those Home Depot two burner heaters and a tank lasted >about a day and a half. But I kept it on the highest setting. > >But...after 5 days without electricity last week because of a sever ice >storm in NE OK, I have become EXTREMELY aware of (possible) carbon monoxide >generating heating devices. One of my neighbors and her kids just got out >of the hospital because of carbon monoxide poisoning.... > >Please add another $20 to that $60 investment and buy a carbon monoxide >monitor...please... > >JM > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Glenn Thomas > >Sent: Jan 26, 2007 9:10 PM > >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cold Weather Building > > > > > > >Chris, > >Took your post to heart and went to Home Depot. Got a 45000 BTU, 2 >burner, propane heater for 60 bucks. Immediately put it together and got >the shed from 8.6F to 82F in about 25 minutes on low. Runs on a regular >gas grill tank. They have another one that has one burner , 15000 BTUs, >for 29 bucks. Once the place is warmed up I could probably fall back to 1 >burner and crack a window. Burns clean and my work shed is warmer than the >house! Just curious how long a tank lasts. > > > >-------- > >Glenn Thomas > >N????? > >http://www.flyingwood.com > > > > > > > > > >Read this topic online here: > > > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90744#90744 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:46:46 AM PST US From: Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A corksickle update........ Go Corky!Good luck on the return trip our peayers are with you man! >From: KMHeide >To: Pietenpol >Subject: Pietenpol-List: A corksickle update........ >Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:01:31 -0800 (PST) > >Members of the List: > > Corky arrived with his son around 1:00 pm Fargo time (amidst zero >temperatures, strong winds, Less then 5 miles visability, windchill of 20 >below) to greet his new found project.. the 42' Blue Boy Defender Aeronca >Champ. He arrived excited yet tired of the long trip up. "Us Yankees handle >the cold much better than them southerners"...... > > Corky, his son David, me and my daughters started up the salamander >heater and started the work of removing the tail section. Everything went >smoothly but with the cold inside the hanger, it made a 10 minute job much >longer. We kept working with rotation between heater time and planning >time. Finally, we moved the trailer into the hanger along side the plane >for loading. > > Created a wood platform for the front gear and then another platform for >the tail. With the plane parallel to the trailer, lifted the tail up onto >the rear of the trailer. Then, we planned on lifting the front of the >Defender (one gear leg at a time) onto the trailer with hopes of sliding >the wheels across into position/alignment with the trailer. Since the wood >was frozen and had some frost on it, I added more snow to make it slippery >for sliding the planes gear across it. Corky and I grabbed one side of the >front gear leg and his son David used a dolly on the opposite side to lift >that sides' wheel off the floor as we lifted our side. The tail-wheel was >kept in place with a block to prevent moving on the rear platform. *(Note - >Corky being a young man (80 yrs. old) is extremely strong!!) Together we >lifted the entire side of the plane and set the wheel onto the trailer >which was about 3 1/2 feet tall! We then walked around and grabbed the >side David was on and picked > up the wheel and side it the remaining wheel onto the trailer and into >position. In summation, we picked up the entire front of the defender and >slide it on to the trailer. (We are two strong sons-of- *itches! Don't mess >with pietenpol builders!) > > After this we decided to call it a day. Total time on loading >fuselage.....about 4 1/2 hours. Tomorrow....the wings under the fuselage >and then strapping everything down. Departure time around 1:00 PM or >thereabouts. > > Photos to follow.... > > This has been a Corksickle update! He loves winter in North >Dakota....Will try and get him to help make snowman tomorrow...before he is >completely frozen and can't move! > > Ken H > Fargo, ND > > >--------------------------------- >No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:24:17 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Enforced "no build" Time OT From: John Hofmann Hey Larry! I remember when those girls were about three feet tall with you in the 150! Hope all is well. I have some books of yours I found in my last move. -john- --------------------------------- John Hofmann Vice-President, Information Technology The Rees Group, Inc. 2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800 Madison, WI 53718 Phone: 608-443-2468, ext. 150 Fax: 608-443-2474 Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com > > > Jim, > > Keep your chin up. We all go through times that are difficult for > various reasons. My project has been at a standstill due to moving and > tuition & etc for 2 kids. One gets out of school in a couple months and > should be supporting herself, and I'm really looking forward to it. :) > Just roll with the punches & it'll come out allright. > > Larry the micromong guy > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:28:45 PM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: propane heater/was Cold Weather Building Regarding the use of propane shop heaters. When we lived in Oregon I bought one of those "orange torpedo" type heaters with electronic spark ignition and used it with a standard barbeque grill type propane tank. I seem to recall it being 75,000 btu/hr. A standard gas grill type propane tank is nominal 20 lbs. or 4 gal. of propane, which has a heating value of about 71,000 btu/hr/gal. As you can see, with a 75,000 btu/hr heater you have a little less than 4 hours of blowing and going at full blast. I used to use it to warm the garage up (15 min. or so), then fire it up again every hour or as needed to take the chill off. Sucker was too loud to run continuously in there even if I had wanted to, but it sure was warm when the heater was running. I never worried about CO or CO2 because my garage door had cracks that you could drive a VW through, all around it, and I never ran the heater unattended or for extended periods. And hey, Jim Markle- what line of work are you in? If you're in science or engineering or anything related (chemistry, geology, etc.)- we are always looking for engineers, scientists, and technicians at Southwest Research. Careers webpage at http://www.swri.org/hr/default.htm Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Valentines Day -- Shop for gifts that spell L-O-V-E at MSN Shopping http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8323,ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24095&tcode=wlmtagline ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:41:07 PM PST US From: "MICHAEL SILVIUS" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cold Weather Building this rig cost me a couple of hundred to set up, mostly the insulated pipe to run through the ceiling. The kit for the barrel stove was about $70, barel rescued from behind the local Catterpillar dealer. fuel is mostly pallate material collected behind big box stores, and construction site dumpster diving. 3 yrs and I never had to pay for fuel for it yet. keeps my uninsulated shop in T shirrt conditions till the ouside temps drop below zero. then a sweat shirt is all we need. I know in the republic of Kalifornia where you have to get a burn permit for a Hibachy you could not do this but then you likely don need to either. Michael in Maine ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:00 PM PST US From: Dave and Connie Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cold Weather Building My father used to have a similar stove in the cellar. His was a Sotz with a double barrel. The top barrel sucked out so much heat that he had to be careful to not put a smoke shelf in the chimney. He put in an old water heater with a convction loop into the stove and put that in series with the house water heater. It had a pressure vent to the outdoors and blew off most mornings. With an all electric house it made a huge difference. Before we were married my wife to be was visisting and mentioned that she was cold. It took about 10 minutes to put the whole house to 80 or so. Dave At 06:38 PM 1/28/2007, MICHAEL SILVIUS wrote: >this rig cost me a couple of hundred to set up, mostly the insulated pipe to >run through the ceiling. The kit for the barrel stove was about $70, barel >rescued from behind the local Catterpillar dealer. > >fuel is mostly pallate material collected behind big box stores, and >construction site dumpster diving. 3 yrs and I never had to pay for fuel for >it yet. > >keeps my uninsulated shop in T shirrt conditions till the ouside temps drop >below zero. >then a sweat shirt is all we need. > >I know in the republic of Kalifornia where you have to get a burn permit for >a Hibachy you could not do this but then you likely don need to either. > >Michael in Maine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.