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1. 02:31 AM - Re: powerpoint presentation (del magsam)
2. 06:22 AM - Re: powerpoint presentation (Kip and Beth Gardner)
3. 08:34 AM - Re: elevator trim (Roman Bukolt)
4. 09:10 AM - prop for duplication (Oscar Zuniga)
5. 05:46 PM - Re: Propeller duplicator (Don Emch)
6. 05:54 PM - Re: elevator trim (Don Emch)
7. 08:15 PM - Re: Re: elevator trim (Roman Bukolt)
8. 08:26 PM - Re: Re: Propeller duplicator (MICHAEL SILVIUS)
9. 08:44 PM - Re: Re: Propeller duplicator (MICHAEL SILVIUS)
10. 10:47 PM - Re: powerpoint presentation (Rcaprd@aol.com)
11. 10:54 PM - Re: elevator trim (Rcaprd@aol.com)
12. 11:06 PM - Re: Re: Propeller duplicator (Wizzard187@aol.com)
13. 11:14 PM - Re: powerpoint presentation (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | Re: powerpoint presentation |
Rcaprd@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 2/11/2007 2:18:58 PM Central Standard
Time, taildrags@hotmail.com writes:
Second thing I found out is that not everyone is fond of smoke. A couple of
ladies (remember, we're based on an airpark with people living right
alongside the runway and hangars) remarked to me that they didn't care for
that smelly old smoke and to make sure the wind was blowing away from the
homes if I laid down a cloud. Hmmm... a lesson learned.
Oscar,
Use Baby Oil. Women love the smell of babies !!
Chuck 'Baby Oil' Gantzer
NX770CG
>>>>>Uhmmmm......say Chuck? I hate to reveal this to you... but baby oil isn't
made from babies...oh! and is this why your landings are always so soft?
Del
Del-New Richmond, Wi
"farmerdel@rocketmail.com"
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| Subject: | Re: powerpoint presentation |
Way off message, but Del, your comment reminded me of a recipe I have
in my files for Vegetarian Stew, it starts:
"Catch one plump vegetarian"
BTW, like Don Emch & Mikey, I live close to The OH Turnpike as well -
about 25 minutes due south off I-77, so you are welcome to visit here
too, but my project is still in the basement & pretty plain. Don &
Mikey, as most of you know, both have flying Piets that are just
plain pretty!!
Also, since it's a topic of discussion, does anyone out there have a
left-hand 64 x 33 (i.e. for Corvair) prop out there that could be
used as a duplication template? Even 1/2 of a prop, if you've been
unfortunate, would work. I have a mahogany/birch blank laid up & I
plan on trying my hand at turning it into a usable prop.
Thanks!
Kip Gardner
>
>Oscar,
>Use Baby Oil. Women love the smell of babies !!
>
>Chuck 'Baby Oil' Gantzer
>NX770CG
>
> >>>>>Uhmmmm......say Chuck? I hate to reveal this to you... but
>baby oil isn't made from babies...oh! and is this why your landings
>are always so soft?
>Del
>
>
>Del-New Richmond, Wi
>"farmerdel@rocketmail.com"
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: elevator trim |
Bill Rewey's tank is in the wing and mine is in the fuselage.
I know Bill swung his wing back 4 in. to put the CG in the correct range.
In my case the plane was built for a Corvair and actually had 17 lbs. of
lead in the tail.
Then when Ray Hill, the builder changed to the Cont. A-65 He made the
engine mount 4 inchesshorter than the one shown on Bernie's plan. ????
So my CG was at 39% when I bought the plane.
I've since installed a battery and angle iron rack on the firewall to add 30
lbs. to the nose.
Now, if I fly solo and have 5 gal. left in the tank (about 2 1/2hrs. flying
starting with a full 15 gal.) my CG will be just inside 33%.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 8:43 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: elevator trim
> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> Roman-
>
> Just out of curiosity, do your and Bill Rewey's planes have the fuel tanks
> in the wing center section or out ahead in the nose cowling? If your fuel
> is in the wing, maybe that's why you need forward stick to trim it in
> cruise.
>
> 41CC has the fuel in the nose cowling ahead of the front cockpit and
> neither Charlie nor I weigh all that much so with full fuel it has needed
> aft stick to trim it in cruise. That's what it needed when Corky -er,
> Nathan- and Edwin flew it. Corky had a bungee wrapped around the stick to
> apply back pressure, with the "slide it up the stick for more, down the
> stick for less" like you have except pulling back instead of forward.
>
> Every Piet is different! Aren't you glad we're not all building
> RV-somethings? ;o)
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | prop for duplication |
I have a prop for the Corvair/Piet but it isn't 64x33... it's a 62x34.
Picture of it at http://www.flysquirrel.net/corvair/corvair.html
It's in the original Tennessee Props shipping crate and could be shipped out
if you pay shipping and promise to take care of it. Or forget the shipping
and send me back a hand-carved duplicate prop along with my original ;o)
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller duplicator |
Thanks guys for all the great info and sites about duplicators and carving. I
hadn't seen the sites before and it made for some great reading. Chuck, I'm going
to order that book from EAA. The more I think about and study props, the
more it interests me.
Thanks again,
Don Emch
NX899DE
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=94886#94886
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| Subject: | Re: elevator trim |
I don't think I have ever heard of a shorter than plans engine mount. I think
it would surely be worth a 30lbs. weight savings to build a new longer mount,
according to plans. Just a thought though. 30 lbs. savings is quite a bit for
us.
Don Emch
NX899DE
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=94887#94887
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| Subject: | Re: elevator trim |
Then I'd have to build a whole new cowl.
I'd rather use my building time on the Piet I'm building in my basement.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 7:54 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: elevator trim
>
> I don't think I have ever heard of a shorter than plans engine mount. I
> think it would surely be worth a 30lbs. weight savings to build a new
> longer mount, according to plans. Just a thought though. 30 lbs. savings
> is quite a bit for us.
>
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=94887#94887
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller duplicator |
Don:
Have you seen this one??
http://www.flyingflea.org/docs/how_i_make_wood_propellers%202.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
>
> Thanks guys for all the great info and sites about duplicators and
carving. I hadn't seen the sites before and it made for some great reading.
Chuck, I'm going to order that book from EAA. The more I think about and
study props, the more it interests me.
> Thanks again,
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
>
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller duplicator |
Don:
A few more good ones on prop making:
this one is my favorite by Ed Barros in Argentina making his own 3 blade for
his highly modified KR.
It is in spanish but you can get the gist. He is runing it direct drive of a
EA81 Subaru, he makes it look easy.
http://www.kr2-egb.com.ar/Helice.htm
and:
http://users.lmi.net/~ryoung/Sonerai/Carve_Prop.html
and a homebuilt composite one as well:
http://www.icon.fi/~jtki/prop.html
literature:
http://webpages.charter.net/bateseng/books.htm
more links on prop making:
http://mylist.net/archives/corvaircraft/2004/006082.html
Michael in Maine
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| Subject: | Re: powerpoint presentation |
In a message dated 2/13/2007 4:33:23 AM Central Standard Time,
farmerdel@rocketmail.com writes:
>>>>>Uhmmmm......say Chuck? I hate to reveal this to you... but baby oil
isn't made from babies...
LOL !!
Well, I know that's true, because the worst odors I've ever smelled in my
life, came out of my babies !!
...oh! and is this why your landings are always so soft?
I can only wish that were true !! Although, I always try to land as softly
as a butterfly with sore feet, every once in a while I drop 'er in with a Ker
Plop !!
Chuck G.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: elevator trim |
In a message dated 2/13/2007 10:36:31 AM Central Standard Time,
conceptmodels@tds.net writes:
Now, if I fly solo and have 5 gal. left in the tank (about 2 1/2hrs. flying
starting with a full 15 gal.) my CG will be just inside 33%.
Roman,
It is important to maintain the CG ahead of the Aft limit, with ZER0 fuel
aboard, and you in the cockpit. If we introduce a scenario where you end
up
with below minimum fuel, or run out of fuel, you will be Aft CG, and would be
fortunate to walk away from the landing.
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller duplicator |
Don. I have a duplicator that I built that you can use. I have carved
three. The first two for practice and the third came out pretty good. It has
a
8 foot bed . I have not used the prop as I think my weight and balance
will require more, weight up front. The problem is that I am in eastern Iowa
about 10 miles north of I 80 just above Davenport near Long Grove. Ken
Conrad in snowie Iowa and cold. The plans are from a guy in Michigan that was
carving fish profiles.
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| Subject: | Re: powerpoint presentation |
Just so long as your landings aren't like those of the poor ONO bird.
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: Rcaprd@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: powerpoint presentation
In a message dated 2/13/2007 4:33:23 AM Central Standard Time,
farmerdel@rocketmail.com writes:
>>>>>Uhmmmm......say Chuck? I hate to reveal this to you... but baby
oil isn't made from babies...
LOL !!
Well, I know that's true, because the worst odors I've ever smelled in
my life, came out of my babies !!
...oh! and is this why your landings are always so soft?
I can only wish that were true !! Although, I always try to land as
softly as a butterfly with sore feet, every once in a while I drop 'er
in with a Ker Plop !!
Chuck G.
do not archive
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