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1. 05:33 AM - Re: How do they fly? (Gene Beenenga)
2. 05:34 AM - Cutting the Toilet Paper (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
3. 06:26 AM - Fuse assembly question (Dan Loegering)
4. 06:54 AM - Re: Fuse assembly question (Phillips, Jack)
5. 07:01 AM - aluminum leading edge (Tom Bernie)
6. 07:26 AM - Re: Fuse assembly question (Rick Holland)
7. 12:37 PM - Re: Fuse assembly question (Peter W Johnson)
8. 03:19 PM - Re: Fuse assembly question (Dale Johnson)
9. 09:28 PM - Re: Cutting the Toilet Paper (Rcaprd@aol.com)
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Subject: | How do they fly? |
Steve, thanks for the pics. Looks great! Just confirms how much further I have
to go!
Gene
-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com>
>Sent: Feb 20, 2007 9:04 AM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: How do they fly?
>
>
>Here are about 40 pictures of my GN-1. It has a Continental A-75 engine.
>
>http://www.wotelectronics.com/flyin/021007/
>http://www.wotelectronics.com/flyin/111806/
>http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/GN1/
>
>Climbing out:
>http://www.wotelectronics.com/flyin/021007/P2100023.jpg
>
>Here is one of me getting ready to go...it was about 28
>degrees...notice the fog on the goggles:
>http://www.wotelectronics.com/flyin/021007/P2100019.jpg
>
>Steve
>
>Quoting Gene Beenenga <kgbunltd@earthlink.net>:
>
>>
>> Steve, how about a pic or two of your GN-1. I am trying to finish
>> up a GN-1. What is your engine?
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com>
>>> Sent: Feb 17, 2007 10:07 PM
>>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: How do they fly?
>>>
>>> In the real world, if there is one thing a Pietenpol can do exceptionally,
>>> it is slowing down. They are draggy airplanes. There is very, very little
>>> float on landing unless you start your flair above cruise speed. Again,
>>> lots of drag keeps your time to flair down. A lot of people land them with
>>> some power to give more float time. It has much, much less float than any
>>> other airplane I've flown. I'm pretty comfortable landing on a rough 1,000'
>>> strip. Taking off fully loaded from a 1,000' strip on a warm day is a
>>> different story.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Like someone else said, you can lose a lot of altitude very quickly in an
>>> aggressive slip.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ground handling isn't bad at all in my plane in my opinion. However, I have
>>> a (narrowed) J3 Cub landing gear & a steerable tailwheel.it is actually very
>>> easy to steer accurately on the ground at low speeds. The low landing speed
>>> also makes landings fairly easy. I've got probably around 400 landings in
>>> my plane, and I've never scared myself. I'm sure landing with the (better
>>> looking) motorcycle wheels is more difficult, and more susceptible to side
>>> load.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My plane is a GN-1, by the way.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Ruse
>>>
>>> Norman, OK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Harris
>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 10:57 AM
>>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: How do they fly?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Questions
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - does sideslipping increase your rate of descent significantly?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - does the aircraft float on forever when landing?
>>>
>>> - What's the stall speed at MTOW and with the average pilot and
>>> half tanks?
>>>
>>> - Is the ground-handling as difficult as Bill's model represents?
>>> (i.e no steering on the ground unless you really give it rice on the
>>> throttle, and ground-loops at the sl;ighteest opportunity!)
>>>
>>> - Are there mods which help her on the ground? Brakes or steerable
>>> tailwheels?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That's enough for now - anyone know of an example in Spain?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Roger Harris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Cutting the Toilet Paper |
That was some good video, Chuck. Thanks for posting that and letting us
fly thru the flight with you. Great fun that is. Have
you given crepe paper rolls a try yet ? The Dollar Store or Wal Mart
has those rolls at reasonable prices. Catch them outside of
your prop about mid-wing on each side and then fly around town with
them. I've found there is a Vncp (velocity never exceed while
dragging crepe paper around) because it will stretch to a point then
break if you go too fast.
Mike C.
PS-- my apologies to any tree huggers
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Subject: | Fuse assembly question |
Ok all you guys that have been here before, Just need a quick bit of clarification.
When looking from the top of your fuselage as you were assembling, the diagonal
cross members should form an "X" correct? Example: the top piece diagonals from
upper right to lower left, and the bottom piece diagonals from upper left
to lower right...
I know, simple question, but long evening hours and looking at too many plans sets
have temporarily fried my brain.
Thanks!
Dan Loegering
Fargo, ND
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Subject: | Fuse assembly question |
>From an engineering standpoint it just doesn't matter. Mine are the
same, top & bottom - no X
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Loegering
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:24 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuse assembly question
<danl@odayequipment.com>
Ok all you guys that have been here before, Just need a quick bit of
clarification.
When looking from the top of your fuselage as you were assembling, the
diagonal cross members should form an "X" correct? Example: the top
piece diagonals from upper right to lower left, and the bottom piece
diagonals from upper left to lower right...
I know, simple question, but long evening hours and looking at too many
plans sets have temporarily fried my brain.
Thanks!
Dan Loegering
Fargo, ND
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Subject: | aluminum leading edge |
Folks,
Can anyone advise me about how to apply the .013 aluminum leading edge
skins called for on my GN-1 plans. I can't find anything definitive on
the web or in my books.
Thanks,
Tom Bernie
Gloucester Mass
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Subject: | Re: Fuse assembly question |
Mine ended up right to left on top and left to right on the bottom when
behind the fuselage facing forward.
Rick
On 2/22/07, Dan Loegering <danl@odayequipment.com> wrote:
>
> danl@odayequipment.com>
>
> Ok all you guys that have been here before, Just need a quick bit of
> clarification.
>
> When looking from the top of your fuselage as you were assembling, the
> diagonal cross members should form an "X" correct? Example: the top piece
> diagonals from upper right to lower left, and the bottom piece diagonals
> from upper left to lower right...
>
> I know, simple question, but long evening hours and looking at too many
> plans sets have temporarily fried my brain.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dan Loegering
> Fargo, ND
>
>
--
Rick Holland
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Subject: | Fuse assembly question |
Dan,
Jacks correct, doesnt make any difference. Mine are in the X shape. Check
out http://www.cpc-world.com for some pictures.
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://www.cpc-world.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Loegering
Sent: Friday, 23 February 2007 1:24 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuse assembly question
<danl@odayequipment.com>
Ok all you guys that have been here before, Just need a quick bit of
clarification.
When looking from the top of your fuselage as you were assembling, the
diagonal cross members should form an "X" correct? Example: the top piece
diagonals from upper right to lower left, and the bottom piece diagonals
from upper left to lower right...
I know, simple question, but long evening hours and looking at too many
plans sets have temporarily fried my brain.
Thanks!
Dan Loegering
Fargo, ND
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3:19 PM
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Subject: | Fuse assembly question |
Dan
I thing you have it reversed.
If we are looking at the same thing.
The top brace should go from the front left to the rear right.
The bottom brace should go from the front right to the rear left.
The bottom sketch is from the bottom of the plane.
Dale MPLS
> [Original Message]
> From: Dan Loegering <danl@odayequipment.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 2/22/2007 8:31:08 AM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuse assembly question
>
<danl@odayequipment.com>
>
> Ok all you guys that have been here before, Just need a quick bit of
clarification.
>
> When looking from the top of your fuselage as you were assembling, the
diagonal cross members should form an "X" correct? Example: the top piece
diagonals from upper right to lower left, and the bottom piece diagonals
from upper left to lower right...
>
> I know, simple question, but long evening hours and looking at too many
plans sets have temporarily fried my brain.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dan Loegering
> Fargo, ND
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Cutting the Toilet Paper |
In a message dated 2/22/2007 7:36:17 AM Central Standard Time,
michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov writes:
That was some good video, Chuck. Thanks for posting that and letting us fly
thru the flight with you. Great fun that is. Have
you given crepe paper rolls a try yet ? The Dollar Store or Wal Mart has
those rolls at reasonable prices. Catch them outside of
your prop about mid-wing on each side and then fly around town with them.
I've found there is a Vncp (velocity never exceed while
dragging crepe paper around) because it will stretch to a point then break if
you go too fast.
Mike C.
Hey Mikee,
I haven't tried the crepe paper yet, so it is on my 'to do' list this summer.
I'll just have to keep 'er below the Vnewdcpa speed.
Question: Would a slip, slide the crepe paper off the wing ? Would a slip
in the other direction slide the crepe paper closer to the center ? Come to
think of it, it would probably make a pretty good Angle of Attack Indicator !!
I'm gonna have to get some video of that !!
Check list for Dollor Store :
Ten Bottles of Baby Oil
Ten rolls of Crepe paper
Chuck G.
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